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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 4:03pm On Apr 30, 2020
This are some snapshot of your non-aboriginal roots. Sorry OP for posting this. But someone must be put in his place.
Here is the link.
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-politics-of-igbo-origin-and-culture-the-igbo-ukwu-and-nri-factors-reconsidered/

Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 4:06pm On Apr 30, 2020
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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Bonessaw(m): 4:14pm On Apr 30, 2020
What’s the fuss with both of you, Udechi and Idenna.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 4:16pm On Apr 30, 2020
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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 4:44pm On Apr 30, 2020
Idenna should tell us what he knows about Nri? grin grin
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:02pm On Apr 30, 2020
IDENNAA:


Whether it belongs to Nri or related groups doesn't change the date of the artifacts. Its older than Bini and its found in Anambra. I dont meddle in your Ngwa or Abia matters...Do I ? Dont act like that post was the only submission that is worth your read. You people (Imo and Abia) are too small to bring the greatness of Nri down. You are too preoccupied with Nri matters...I wonder why


You should have known Imo and Abia has no culture or legacy to protect.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:02pm On Apr 30, 2020
IDENNAA:


Whether it belongs to Nri or related groups doesn't change the date of the artifacts. Its older than Bini and its found in Anambra. I dont meddle in your Ngwa or Abia matters...Do I ? Dont act like that post was the only submission that is worth your read. You people (Imo and Abia) are too small to bring the greatness of Nri down. You are too preoccupied with Nri matters...I wonder why


You should have known Imo and Abia has no culture or legacy to protect.

UdechiHD is just been pained.


I had consistently raised by voice to set up a cultural group Oranaeze ndi Omambala.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:11pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
The Python reference in the Awka/Orlu heartland is as old as civilization itself. It held sway even in the face of cultural purification by the Aro/Eri stock who came later.

Python reference is a strong Isu cultural practice covering areas such as Idemili, Nnewi, Orumba, Aguata, Ideato, Orsu, Isuikwato, Okigwe, Orlu, Ihitte/Uboma, Isu, Njaba, Nkwerre, Mbano, Ikeduru, Mbaitoli, Nwangele, Oru, Oguta, Egbema, Ndokwa, Ukwuani, Ndoni etc.

It is one cultural practice that is wide spread and ageless. Till this day killing of python is taboo by my people. We see a python as a kin/brother and when killed the offender will bury it as a human. Although the practice isn’t usually enforced as before due to the coming of Christianity, but people still rever it.

The name of the Python changes by geography. It’s habitat is in the major rivers in the vicinity where it finds itself, and natives call it by the name of the major river in their area. We believe the python is a child of the river and in time past sacrifices were made to the river goddess from time to time.
In Idemili the Eke is called Eke Idemili, in Orlu it is known as Eke Njaba and in Ukwuani it is called by the name of the river in that locality. Chinua Achebe’s ‘Things fall apart’ captured this priceless Igbo culture succinctly.

This practice hasn’t fully been researched by historians and if dug deep may unearth a lot about ancient Igbos.


Lol

Insecurity.

Orlu orlu orlu...Awka/,Orlu Awka Orlu...Lol


What madness? Are you writing history or fixing Imo state here to feel proud ..LMAO.


Listen, if you want to write the history of Imo state, you are free to do so but done drag Omambala in the mud with such nonsense.

We have passed that stage...

What nonsense..Awka/Orlu ..Is python reverence...Lmao
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:13pm On Apr 30, 2020
IDENNAA:


I guess we have to find ways to give Imo people reasons to feel proud , hence the Orlu suggestions...lol. If you dont know who made it just shut up. The only place Pythons are worshipped is in Idenmili and Idenmili has at least 3 Nri towns....Abatete , Umuoji , Nnokwa , Ojoto , Obosi (Ojoto and Obosi are same people), Nkpor etc. Thats why I said Nri and related groups but you want to lump Anambra and Imo together out of your own insecurities....these people are different.

We are NOT the same people. Igbo is diverse and its ok...the other day Orange drug took a title of Ijele....what da Bleep ?? You dont even have the Ijele culture!

Hope Uzodimma honorary title is Onwanetilora....since when? It's ok to borrow but it doesnt mean we are same people. Anambra people are Nri cultured people and we have characteristics and mannerisms of an average Anambra person.

I hate to hear Awka/Orlu nonsense...you lot created that. It has always been Nri/Awka axis


Lol

You punched him well. I didn't read this before replying that human being.



Awka/Orlu nonsense is just revisionist theory.


Well people who has no culture must fix something to make themselves proud.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:25pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:

It’s obvious you’re a layman in history. Open your ears and learn Mr Nri! Idemili is not the only place the Python totem is revered. A lot of places in Igboland revere the Python. Chief among these communities are:
Isu LGA - Called Eke Njaba
Njaba LGA - Called Eke Njaba
Awo-Idemili - Called Eke Njaba
Ihiala - In Anambra
Nembe - In Bayelsa
Ndokwa - In Delta etc
And all of these places have had that history since a long time.

Now I see why you always want to lump Nri into the mix. 14 Century Nri! Show me the towns Nri founded and I’ll show you the towns groups such as Isu, Awka and Aro founded. Lol! If I’m correct, the only town Nri settled in great number was your Umuoji, others may even be older than Agwu Ukwu Nri. Settling into a town shouldn't mean you founded it?

Igbos are one people. We may be diverse but we are one. Only that Agwu Ukwu Nri should be kept in their place and stop making stupid noise. Why are they the inky group in Umueri disturbing us with their fictitious story? Their origin is Igala and despite the revisionist nonsense of the Umueri clan of falling from the sky, their immigration to Igboland is still collaborated in Aguleri to this day. Nri invented nothing! The only thing they invested was the monopolisation of the chief priest business in pre-colonial time among their neigbours just as the Aros of Ubini Ukpabi fame.
And who told you that Akokwa don't have Ijele masquerades, lol! How can Nri invent a tradition older than it's existence?

No problem, as long as it is Igbo. However let me burst your head, his title is Onwa ne tiri oha. I'll post his Wikipedia page here.

As a matter of fact it's even Awka, Orlu, Owerri and Okigwe heartland, but because the Isu dominated the southern block, the reason I deliberately made use of Awka/Isu. I'll post a link to that. But don't get it twisted. However let me pity you here, history made use of Nri-Awka axis to explain villages from Aguleri - Umuoji - Awka. However, it's quite an insult to compare Awka who existed and even provided for Eri when he crossed the Omanbala river to Aguleri.
Agwu-Ukwu Nri should chill, maybe when Enugu Ukwu your Umueri head hand over the headship of your clan, then we will talk. So who again is the head of the Umueri clan? I heard it's between Aguleri and Enugu Ukwu and that Nri (Agwu Ukwu) is the youngest.



Lolzzz

See Obsession ooo
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:30pm On Apr 30, 2020
TAO11:


Don't allow yourself to be deceived by that Benin propagandist named gregyboy.

If you're truly Igbo, then know that your people have indeed been casting bronzes and using beads at least 6 centuries before the Binis would first learn about those.

The dating of the Igbo-Ukwu artefacts by Thurstan Shaw et al. confirms this without a shred of doubt.


Remain blessed and blessed.

Don't mind the the guy you quoted. let me give you simple definition of his obsession and anger.

All of them here are just after one state Omambala to dispute facts and distort history that's why he took sides with the Benin boy.


But the people they have been fighting for years to rewrite the history no send them.


Because on a single sitting Omambala will decimate them.


But most importantly they should stop disturbing our peace.

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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 7:51pm On Apr 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Remain blessed and blessed.

Don't mind the the guy you quoted. let me give you simple definition of his obsession and anger.

All of them here are just after one state Omambala to dispute facts and distort history that's why he took sides with the Benin boy.


But the people they have been fighting for years to rewrite the history no send them.


Because on a single sitting Omambala will decimate them.


But most importantly they should stop disturbing our peace.

The guy has been fighting tooth and nail to ignite an internet war between Anambra towns ,but we are much wiser. A nonentity can never dismantle the painstakingly built Omanbala social structure and cohesion. Igwe bu ike! When they kicked Bishop Okpalaeke out I didn't see these element rise to fight for our brother. They humiliated him and chased him away and bragged about it. Now , when they need that Omanbala clout we suddenly become "one Igbo."

I will warn every Anambra person to be on the look out for these desperados.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 7:55pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
This are some snapshot of your non-aboriginal roots. Sorry OP for posting this. But someone must be put in his place.
Here is the link.
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-politics-of-igbo-origin-and-culture-the-igbo-ukwu-and-nri-factors-reconsidered/

This is not your cup of tea and you have no say in it!
EOD!
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 9:37pm On Apr 30, 2020
Idenna the fake Nri man. It’s obvious you’ve resurrected your Julius Marlena handle.
Tell us the name of your Kings in your Umuoji? I hope you won’t fail again as you failed in the Pan Igbo thread. Lol!
Reply with your Julius Malema handle?
Oh you think I didn’t remember how you were busted. Omambala my ass.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 9:58pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
Idenna the fake Nri man. It’s obvious you’ve resurrected your Julius Marlena handle.
Tell us the name of your Kings in your Umuoji? I hope you won’t fail again as you failed in the Pan Igbo thread. Lol!
Reply with your Julius Malema handle?
Oh you think I didn’t remember how you were busted. Omambala my ass.


Omambala is not your mate.

We know our history and we never hired any outsider to come and tell us our history...


Why tearing yourself apart on our own ethnic issues.

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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 10:38pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
Idenna the fake Nri man. It’s obvious you’ve resurrected your Julius Marlena handle.
Tell us the name of your Kings in your Umuoji? I hope you won’t fail again as you failed in the Pan Igbo thread. Lol!
Reply with your Julius Malema handle?
Oh you think I didn’t remember how you were busted. Omambala my ass.

You are in deep denial. I answered all the question you posed to me, satisfactorily. You , on the other hand has refused to tell us your origin.

I literally told you my family name but you chose to believe what your feelings told you.

Igwe Cyril Enweze would soon celebrate his last Ofala. I hope you know what that means...dont you ?
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 2:07am On May 01, 2020
I'm out! I can't keep arguing with Idenna aka Julius Malema the fake Nri man! Bye and invite more of your monikers to the thread.
Igbo my foot.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Juliusmalema: 7:18am On May 01, 2020
UdechiHD:
I'm out! I can't keep arguing with Idenna aka Julius Malema the fake Nri man! Bye and invite more of your monikers to the thread.
Igbo my foot.


Well, stop disturbing us with your revisionist theory.

As at today no Omambala person ethnically disturbs himself about Imo state but you lots will carry every single town here on your head with tainty history just to create conflict.

Whatever makes you proud, write it but don't put Omambala there.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 9:59am On May 01, 2020
UdechiHD:
Oga nothing like Imo or Anambra here. Don’t divert the topic. We know your intention and that is to lump other groups into your already dead Omanbala consciousness. You can all drown in the Omanbala River for all we care but don’t drag others with you. It’s obvious you’re looking for a cultural body to push your Nri bu isi Igbo mantra but that idea died since 1914 never to be remembered again.

Had you calmed down as the Aro people with a cultural influence in the SE/SS no one would have reminded you of your immigrant origin. Now tell me, have you heard the Eze Aro calling for the revival of the Aro confederacy, No? Because he knows that the Igbo nation existed before the coming of all chiefdom hegemonic trash. But since your Umunri/Umueri groups is bent on that stupidity, we wouldn’t mind putting you in your place.
I’ll post more facts to put you in your place.
Aro reviving their Aro Confederacy yes they do, by indirectly promoting and making reference to other Igbo's as eg Aro Owerri colonie, Aro Idenmili colonie, Aro mbaisee colonie, Aro Onicha colonie, Aro Isu colonie etc.

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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 10:10am On May 01, 2020
UdechiHD:
Idenna should tell us what he knows about Nri? grin grin
grin grin grin grin
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by Nobody: 3:09pm On May 01, 2020
letu:
Aro reviving their Aro Confederacy yes they do, by indirectly promoting and making reference to other Igbo's as eg Aro Owerri colonie, Aro Idenmili colonie, Aro mbaisee colonie, Aro Onicha colonie, Aro Isu colonie etc.
They are jokers. A kinship built with force, stolen lands, raids and slavery won’t stand. Does it? In other climes the Aro would have been mandated to apologize for the demonic acts carried out by their fathers. But no, they still brag about it. There exist relics of slavery in Arochuckwu till this day that reminds us of that wicked atrocities.

I expect people to begin to challenge that idea. A confederacy that sounded the death knell on Igbo ancient civilizations.
The Aro confederacy is dead and buried and never to be unearthed again. An evil confederacy that sold our fore fathers to slavery and hasn't still apologize is talking about re-enacting one dead confederacy.

These Aros destroyed and renamed rival shrines of the Isu in Igwekala and that of the Awka in Agbala to Aro owned and still went ahead to elevate one Ubini Ukpabi. A confederacy that institutionalized Osu system in Igboland all for greed.

While their mates in Oyo were expanding their territories, and co-opting other tribes into the Yoruba empire, the useless Aro focused their attention on the destruction of Igboland.

Those in Arochukwu kicking up this idea are only grasping at straws. Why don’t they ask for their Aro Eshiet territory in Calabar who are bilingual till this day? After all they exist Aro terroritories in Efik/Ibibio land, in Ijawland, in Benue and even in Cameroon. But they can’t do this because they've always been local champions. If they don’t want to commence another round of Arophobia as happened in Ikwerre land and even Ngwaland, they should keep shut and rather promote Igbo agenda.

Truth be told, the coming of the Aro slave confederacy and even the Nri hegemony to relevance dragged ancient Igboland backwards. Both elevated their chief priest business that elevated mass ignorance, killing innovation and growth. All ancient Igbo civilizations we're destroyed because of some monopolistic greed by a people. We should thank our goodness that we still have the Igbo Ukwu archeological bronze works and those discovered in Nsukka that once reminded us how great the ancient Igbo were.

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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 3:57pm On May 01, 2020
letu:
Aro reviving their Aro Confederacy yes they do, by indirectly promoting and making reference to other Igbo's as eg Aro Owerri colonie, Aro Idenmili colonie, Aro mbaisee colonie, Aro Onicha colonie, Aro Isu colonie etc.

Aro Idenmili ?? Please , elaborate .
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 4:03pm On May 01, 2020
UdechiHD:
They are jokers. A kinship built with force, stolen lands, raids and slavery won’t stand. Does it? In other climes the Aro would have been mandated to apologize for the demonic acts carried out by their fathers. But no, they still brag about it. There exist relics of slavery in Arochuckwu till this day that reminds us of that wicked atrocities.

I expect people to begin to challenge that idea. A confederacy that sounded the death knell on Igbo ancient civilizations.
The Aro confederacy is dead and buried and never to be unearthed again. An evil confederacy that sold our fore fathers to slavery and hasn't still apologize is talking about re-enacting one dead confederacy.

These Aros destroyed and renamed rival shrines of the Isu in Igwekala and that of the Awka in Agbala to Aro owned and still went ahead to elevate one Ubini Ukpabi. A confederacy that institutionalized Osu system in Igboland all for greed.

While their mates in Oyo were expanding their territories, and co-opting other tribes into the Yoruba empire, the useless Aro focused their attention on the destruction of Igboland.

Those in Arochukwu kicking up this idea are only grasping at straws. Why don’t they ask for their Aro Eshiet territory in Calabar who are bilingual till this day? After all they exist Aro terroritories in Efik/Ibibio land, in Ijawland, in Benue and even in Cameroon. But they can’t do this because they've always been local champions. If they don’t want to commence another round of Arophobia as happened in Ikwerre land and even Ngwaland, they should keep shut and rather promote Igbo agenda.

Truth be told, the coming of the Aro slave confederacy and even the Nri hegemony to relevance dragged ancient Igboland backwards. Both elevated their chief priest business that elevated mass ignorance, killing innovation and growth. All ancient Igbo civilizations we're destroyed because of some monopolistic greed by a people. We should thank our goodness that we still have the Igbo Ukwu archeological bronze works and those discovered in Nsukka that once reminded us how great the ancient Igbo were.

Aro didnt effect Awka dieties because Awka doesnt have Aro migrants. Awka and surrounding towns fought Aro and pushed them southward , this is why the only place Aro are found in Anambra is mostly in the southern fringe of Anambra.

Also , Aro didn't didn't bring Osu into Anambra areas ,maybe Imo , but certainly not Omanbala. However, we heard stories of how you guys were being decimated by Aro but that's about it with us and Aro.
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by omonnakoda: 7:56pm On May 04, 2020
So the elite Aros, Nri,Oguta and Onitsha were a civilising influence on core "Igbo" groups

How does this python totemism fit in with the establishment Hebrew origins of the Igbos?
Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 1:11am On May 05, 2020
IDENNAA:


Aro Idenmili ?? Please , elaborate .
Example below.

Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 1:16am On May 05, 2020
letu:
Example below.
continuation of Aro centrism/ School of thought.

Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 1:17am On May 05, 2020
letu:
continue
continuation of Aro centrism/ school of thought.

Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 1:28am On May 05, 2020
IDENNAA:


Aro Idenmili ?? Please , elaborate .
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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by letu(m): 1:39am On May 05, 2020
IDENNAA:


Aro Idenmili ?? Please , elaborate .
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Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by superlightning: 6:27pm On May 06, 2020
UdechiHD:
They are jokers. A kinship built with force, stolen lands, raids and slavery won’t stand. Does it? In other climes the Aro would have been mandated to apologize for the demonic acts carried out by their fathers. But no, they still brag about it. There exist relics of slavery in Arochuckwu till this day that reminds us of that wicked atrocities.

I expect people to begin to challenge that idea. A confederacy that sounded the death knell on Igbo ancient civilizations.
The Aro confederacy is dead and buried and never to be unearthed again. An evil confederacy that sold our fore fathers to slavery and hasn't still apologize is talking about re-enacting one dead confederacy.

These Aros destroyed and renamed rival shrines of the Isu in Igwekala and that of the Awka in Agbala to Aro owned and still went ahead to elevate one Ubini Ukpabi. A confederacy that institutionalized Osu system in Igboland all for greed.

While their mates in Oyo were expanding their territories, and co-opting other tribes into the Yoruba empire, the useless Aro focused their attention on the destruction of Igboland.

Those in Arochukwu kicking up this idea are only grasping at straws. Why don’t they ask for their Aro Eshiet territory in Calabar who are bilingual till this day? After all they exist Aro terroritories in Efik/Ibibio land, in Ijawland, in Benue and even in Cameroon. But they can’t do this because they've always been local champions. If they don’t want to commence another round of Arophobia as happened in Ikwerre land and even Ngwaland, they should keep shut and rather promote Igbo agenda.

Truth be told, the coming of the Aro slave confederacy and even the Nri hegemony to relevance dragged ancient Igboland backwards. Both elevated their chief priest business that elevated mass ignorance, killing innovation and growth. All ancient Igbo civilizations we're destroyed because of some monopolistic greed by a people. We should thank our goodness that we still have the Igbo Ukwu archeological bronze works and those discovered in Nsukka that once reminded us how great the ancient Igbo were.

Almost every nation on Earth traded slaves in the past, so deal with it.

The history of the osu caste system predates Aro Confederacy and to start with, its beginnings had good and noble intentions. Other cultures had some form of fugitives and outcasts.

For your info, the Aro are a proud, war-like, resilient, well traveled and industrious people. They were the Spartans of the Igbo race. They helped develop places in and beyond ignoland interns of trade and commerce. So deal with it.

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