alj harem1:

so ezeuche is clearly not ibibio then, and can not speak as if he is ibibio because each time we talk about biafra with ezeuche, he keep bring i am half igbo half ibibio and i can speak for ibibio,

Dede1:

It is a matter of time before Nigeria ceases to be a country. There is no doubt in my mind that the disintegration of Nigeria shall be a sudden occurrence with people of similar culture coupled with geographical proximity binding together for common course.

People are still hiding behind the foolishness of 1967 where many southern Nigerians were hoodwinked by propaganda and scared by unfounded Igbo domination. Now, I believed the scales had fallen off their eyes unfortunately they are yet to overcome the personal denial of stupi.dity.  

eku_bear:

Descent is patrilineal in most societies. However, If you lived all your life in Igboland and viewed the world as most others do, I think you'd be accepted.

Unfortunately, you don't satisfy any of these requirements, so they don't consider you Igbo  

Akhenaten:

That is the best case scenario. However, the pervasive need for many African ethnicities to splinter along clan lines needs to be dealt with. Maybe due to colonialism, some groups have not been able to foster a group consensus, but it needs to be done. I like to use the example of Germany.

In Germany, you had various German-speaking states that did not view other as the same people even though they spoke the same language and shared many cultural customs. Prussians seen themselves as Prussians, Bavarians seen themselves as Bavarians, Westphalians seen themselves as Westphalians and this went on for centuries. It was until Otto Von Bismark who was from Prussia united the various German principalities under one state. Even though regional distinctions still persisted, the people started to see themselves as one people.

Obiagu1:

Ofcourse, EzeUche is not Ibibio (0% Ibibio). He can only claim he knows about Ibibio culture because his mum is Ibibio.

jason123:

What is your position on the matter? split the country or stick together? and please do not mind Harem, he is just pulling your legs

jason123:

What is your position on the matter? split the country or stick together? and please do not mind Harem, he is just pulling your legs

alj harem1:

ok obiagu1 from the way you are talking, i have to respect you because you have respected yourself

i will stop claiming igbo as from today only on Nairaland but i will be on every single igbo tread as i deem fit because they are nigerians not igborians.

i will stop the igbo claim now

sorry for the trouble brother

Akhenaten:

To be honest, I would prefer if the nation was split along ethnic lines. However, seeing how much controversy could arise from such a split, the nation would be best served if it was split regionally. If you mean split along the old East, Midwest, West, North lines, forget it. That will never happen.






The Niger deltans will not be part of a region called 'East,' in which Igbos are majority. Why would they leave Nigeria, to become a minority in another country, when all the leverage (oil) is with them?.

Akhenaten:

To be honest, I would prefer if the nation was split along ethnic lines. However, seeing how much controversy could arise from such a split, the nation would be best served if it was split regionally. My worry is that I want the minority ethnicities to have a voice within these nations. An Eastern republic would make the Igbo more of a majority, because Igbos make up 70% of the East. That would worry many of the minorities and their rights must be protected.

I am more concerned about the cultural aspect. Anything that helps foster Igbo language, culture and unity is something that I would support. I am worried that my language could extinct, but if we have a nation of our own, we can preserve our language for future generations.

Akhenaten:

To be honest, I would prefer if the nation was split along ethnic lines. However, seeing how much controversy could arise from such a split, the nation would be best served if it was split regionally. My worry is that I want the minority ethnicities to have a voice within these nations. An Eastern republic would make the Igbo more of a majority, because Igbos make up 70% of the East. That would worry many of the minorities and their rights must be protected.

I am more concerned about the cultural aspect. Anything that helps foster Igbo language, culture and unity is something that I would support. I am worried that my language could extinct, but if we have a nation of our own, we can preserve our language for future generations.

Missy85:

aww, what have you guys done to Harem

alj harem1:

do not worry i am ok with it so long as i do not fight or make anyone angry especially my igbo brother, i will do anything and even sacrifice my pride and origin for my igbo brothers, because i love them even if they do not love me

Onlytruth:

Isn't it interesting to that while other forumites are actually trying to figure out how to disintegrate Nigeria peacefully and really trying their best to put forward viable solutions (even though some ideas may sound ridiculous ), a character like alj harem1 is more interested in sowing seeds of division and confusion in eastern Nigeria in futile effort to stop the inevitable.
The guy is not even interested in putting forward any alternative solution to how we move Nigeria forward AS IS, or how to move forward apart. He is NOT INTERESTED at all! hehehe!  

Isn't it the same thing the north has done all these years?  
They had the opportunity to fix things, but were more interested in carving up nonviable states and maintaining a system that is unsustainable in the long run. SMH

@topic,

I have always been for a united FUNCTIONAL Nigeria if possible. There has been a few times that our unity brings joy.
However, we have some insurmountable problems. Let me list a few:

SHARIA LAW and systematic Islamization of Nigeria
Quota system and indegene vs settler controversy in a single country.
Over-centralization of power leading to massive corruption of the whole system from federal to local government.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul using population figures.

In a sane society where people are actually interested in being one, these problems can easily be tabled and discussed.
But in Nigeria, where some sections feel that they have cornered the collective patrimony as a result of winning the civil war, even something like a national conference have been rejected and sabotaged.

So, even a most optimistic Nigerian would begin to believe that Nigeria is irredeemable.


BTW where is ndu_chucks?  

I would like to debate him on this.  

Onlytruth:

@Akhenaten
Please heed the advice already given. Ignore alj harem1 .

alj harem1:

onlytruth brother how body na how u are good long time and how is mumsi and popsi na hope they are good

hope ojukwu is feeling better now

@you post

i am not sowing any seed of division to the igbos ,,i tell you i am not

all i was doing was to explain thing to the guy but he blood was just boiling like oil in borno sand why i do not know even when i brought out links and facts

secondly ther is no systematic islamatization of anything, were you not here when oruba muslims are saying they have converted to Christianity, so what has Islam got to do with this

and no one is talking about the civil war here

once again nice seeing u log in brother, greet udezue for me

alj harem1:

why na onlytruth, what have i done again

eku_bear:

@Missy85, if you don't mind me asking, what are you? You seem too detribalized (unlike me, for example) for me to easily tell.

Onlytruth:

I think that Missy85 is one smart babe, though I may not agree with some of her points, but she comes off truly sharp!  

I am for any country where there is agreement from day one about what the country would be.

I don't think that language and religion is really a big deal, LAGOS is a proof to that. If you have only Yoruba Muslims, you would never know that Muslims can be violent. So, I agree with abagworo too that a multi-ethnic country is not a bad idea, provided there is agreement from day one. I don't see any other tribe trying to hold on to power (even unfairly in most instances) in Nigeria except the Hausa/Fulani.
In a sense, I would blame them for Nigeria's failure to be a united strong country.

Those of us who agitate for Biafra do so when we think that other options are not possible.  

Onlytruth:

I think that Missy85 is one smart babe, though I may not agree with some of her points, but she comes off truly sharp!  

I am for any country where there is agreement from day one about what the country would be.

I don't think that language and religion is really a big deal, LAGOS is a proof to that. If you have only Yoruba Muslims, you would never know that Muslims can be violent. So, I agree with abagworo too that a multi-ethnic country is not a bad idea, provided there is agreement from day one. I don't see any other tribe trying to hold on to power (even unfairly in most instances) in Nigeria except the Hausa/Fulani.
In a sense, I would blame them for Nigeria's failure to be a united strong country.

Those of us who agitate for Biafra do so when we think that other options are not possible.  

alj harem1:

i HATE it when people blame hausa/fulani it is very disgusting and irritating

why and why can you not blame ekeumeme, Obasanjo, kalu orji uzo, gbaga danel, alao akala, tiunbu, ibori, uwaumwu, eziriba, uba, etc

why hausa/fulani

think straight here brother,,, i think you have started drinking again

Ola edo:

What did ekwueme do exactly? also none of the guys mentioned except obj were ever presidents and obj was installed by the northerners.

alj harem1:

that is the question what did ekwueme do when he was in power.

what big thing did Obj do when he was in power

Ola edo:

Exactly.You have no idea of what you are talking about.

alj harem1:

that is the question what did ekwueme do when he was in power.

what big thing did Obj do when he was in power

jason123:

HE SPLIT THE WEST INTO 2 (WEST AND MID-WEST)