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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by OCHOdee(f): 2:53pm On May 09, 2020 |
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by ofhismercy(m): 2:54pm On May 09, 2020 |
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by doggedfighter(f): 3:02pm On May 09, 2020 |
Aksnoopy:Dumbo, use your brain. Stop living off people's tithes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:04pm On May 09, 2020 |
[s] Winzozo:[/s]v Read what I wrote carefully. Cooli tempa |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by pongwa(m): 3:06pm On May 09, 2020 |
Olarewaju89:I'm speaking the Bible here. The demons in the possessed man challenged the fake prophets. Isn't that so? |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by badonkadonk: 3:06pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: Corporate church? The church of God is not a building or any physical edifice or attribute, the church of God isn't anything man made. The church of God is not a business enterprise. Jesus went into the synagogue and saw men and women trading wares in his father's house, what did he do? Mathew 21:2 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. The church of God is the people, lil wonder it is said in the book of Mathew 18:10; "where two or more people are gathered in my name, there am I with them". Why did it not say where two or more people are gathered in my name in church, temple courts or synagogue, I mean shaybe there were churches too back then..? ROMANS 13:1-7 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves. People who do right don’t have to fear the rulers. But those who do wrong must fear them. Do you want to be free from fearing them? Then do only what is right, and they will praise you. Rulers are God’s servants to help you. But if you do wrong, you have reason to be afraid. They have the power to punish, and they will use it. They are God’s servants to punish those who do wrong. So you must obey the government, not just because you might be punished, but because you know it is the right thing to do. And this is why you pay taxes too. Those rulers are working for God, and they give all their time to the work of ruling. Give everyone what you owe them. If you owe them any kind of tax, then pay it. Show respect to those you should respect. And show honor to those you should honor. Pls and pls... Do not fight a fight that's not yours to fight.. Thank you. God bless and stay safe |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:07pm On May 09, 2020 |
desiredhome:Good question. Jesus answered that question himself when he said think not that I've come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come to fulfill it." The illustration I made is not a question of lifestyle but faith in God. Anything that enhances that faith is good and noble. I'm sure you'll agree going to church is one of those. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Funmiking(m): 3:10pm On May 09, 2020 |
KingJa: Meaning what, so that you can go back to the killing of twins. This has nothing to do with religion. it is the in-depth of a man that allows him to be selfish with the way he reasoning, Many people have be deceived and not truthful to themselves. I will advise you read (JOHN 8:32; Matthew 7: 13-23) and digest, ponder on it. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by BluntTheApostle(m): 3:17pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: You are the one who is 100% wrong. If your pastors had done the real job of building up people, instead of building mighty structures, then Christians would be able to survive on their own during crisis such as this pandemic. Christianity has faced far more persecution in the past than now, and still survived. The secret is the investment that the Apostles made on the church (the people). But in today's Christianity, buildings are prioritized. Corporate Christianity was emphasized by Paul because the Church was still very young, and new members needed all the encouragement they could get. But today, the Church is old, and the Word can be easily assessed even through phones. There are many Bible apps (even with audio features) that you can download and read the Word by yourself. This was not the case in the time of Paul. A new member needed all the guidance and encouragement they could get from the older members. But if a Christian in today's time who has been going to Church every Sunday for at least 5 years is still depending on the corporate church for guidance, then I am sorry to say that there is no difference between such a Christian and a student who has been repeating the same class for 5 years. Such a Christian needs deliverance from the spirit of Churchianity. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Yanglee(m): 3:19pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: Can you back up your disagreement with the scripture |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Throwback: 3:21pm On May 09, 2020 |
petra1: And how has Sweden fared without full lockdown, when it is one of the few countries where over 10% of those infected have died? Did the measure stop the confirmed cases from rising below 1000 to over 25,000 as at today?
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Yanglee(m): 3:21pm On May 09, 2020 |
BluntTheApostle: God bless you. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Emmanes: 3:35pm On May 09, 2020 |
Olarewaju89:so if you call the govt here evil so you also mean that in the foreign country were their churches are closed at this time the govt there too are evil...... Religion for Nigeria is a scam |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by cyphasound112(m): 3:42pm On May 09, 2020 |
Those pastors forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond.. Please tell them the better wake up from their slumber |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by azorjiu(m): 3:49pm On May 09, 2020 |
I wish churches can remain closed for a year or two. Let’s prove we can live without the. People should stop being unproductive by spending so much time in man-made buildings. Africans should wake up. You’ve been scammed. You’ve been brainwashed by these charlatans who are also called pastors. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Asazwalingwa: 3:57pm On May 09, 2020 |
litigator: Barrister, I hail o |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 4:05pm On May 09, 2020 |
Yanglee: Lots of you, react to threads without a deep thinking of what the thread was out to showcase. In Epg.4: 11-13, the bible talked about giftings and what it should be used for. 1peter 4:10 talked using the gifts to minister to one another. If the church or place of worship is lockdown and you are not as it is now, in a place where your gifting can be used to God's glory, what do you think, will be the fate of those who need it but couldn't? This is what the present situation portends. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by orunto27: 4:17pm On May 09, 2020 |
The three Priests are discerning. This is the 21st Century. The FG should please not drag Nigeria back into the 14th-16th Centuries of the Renaissance when people were grapping with Knowledge of Economics and Religion. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 4:24pm On May 09, 2020 |
BluntTheApostle: |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by BluntTheApostle(m): 4:27pm On May 09, 2020 |
Yanglee:Amen, my brother. God bless you too. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by desiredhome: 4:31pm On May 09, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: There is nothing wrong in going to church, the reason people are crictizing the church of today is the fake pastors that have dominated the christiandom today. The question is with what is going on today in the Church especially the Penticostals, will Christ be happy? is it the representation of what Christ/Christianity stand for? Are you going to Church for the love of God and serving God in truth and honesty or you are going to church because of your personal profit? |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Divoc19(f): 4:38pm On May 09, 2020 |
They are simply missing SUNDAY OFFERING! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Agboriotejoye(m): 4:40pm On May 09, 2020 |
desiredhome:Come unto me all ye that are weary and heavy laden sounds like personal profit. That's the first stage of Christianity. Nothing wrong with it. Those who forsake all to follow me will have their reward earth and in heaven to come. Second stage. Jesus offers a better life. As for the fake Pastors, they are not the standard to judge Christianity. Let the tares grow with wheat said the master. It is for you to follow Jesus and run ur race. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 4:48pm On May 09, 2020 |
badonkadonk: Your response, shows that you didn't understand the issue on ground. The church of God is not a physical building, yet Jesus went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day to worship. Lk. 4:16. Peter and John went into the temple at the hour of prayers, to pray. Acts .3:1. The great Apostle Paul, went into a synagogue, on a Sabbath day to worship, Act.13:14, yet the church of God has nothing to do with physical structure. Jesus Christ chased the people out of the temple, because of the wrong use of the temple As for the issue of obedience to authorities, no one is opposing the government. That is not what the two servants of God are saying. As the markets are opened, so let the places of worship be opened, this is our stand. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by PastorandMentor(m): 4:49pm On May 09, 2020 |
No need to argue with you. Men make men. What you need for your next level is in the hands of one man. Remain there in frustration while i keep enjoying the Grace i inherited from my father Bishop Oyedepo. lexy2014: |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Qwertychiva: 4:50pm On May 09, 2020 |
the time make them for dey do their healing them dey talk of member to come church come pay offering. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by BluntTheApostle(m): 4:57pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: You and Oyedepo are the ones who need to take the reading of the Bible very seriously. Deut.15 :11, said the poor shall not cease from the land. Apostle Paul, despite all his mighty teachings and powerful miracles and investment, borrowing your word, still had canal Christians as his members. The Corinthians and Galatians churches are living examples and are in the bible. Learn to read. I wrote that Paul advocated for corporate Christianity because Christianity was still young. Many, if not all of the converts were either believers in Judaism or outright pagans. Understanding a new religion (as Christianity was at the time) took a lot of effort. Just like it took a lot of effort for our pagan forefathers to accept Christianity. But realities are different today. There will still be Christians, who will need to be helped spiritually, till all of us come to the unity of faith and the knowledge of the Son of God. Eph.4:13 There will be new converts who would need to be guided through the Word. But all this can be achieved through social media. I like the Muslims for this on Nairaland. There are new converts who ask questions, and scholars who are ready to help. And with easy access to the Bible than it ever was, churches can hold even on Nairaland. But many of you Christians are not even taking up these responsibilities. You are so laid back, expecting physical churches to open. It is not even like there is true communion in your churches. How many of you even have close relationships with one or two families in your church? I can bet that almost, if not all the people you have sat beside in church know nothing about your life, and vice versa. Is that a church? This is the reason the church or place of worship must be opened for Christian worship The essence of the Church is to build up. And you don't need physical churches to do this. Many of you Christians are just plain lazy, that is all. That is why your pastors exploit you. They teach you to be their listeners to the extent that you can't even teach others because you think you are "not called". It is the responsibility of every Christian to teach, and propagate the Gospel. And you don't need a physical church to do that. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 4:58pm On May 09, 2020 |
OCHOdee: OCHOdee. I' am amazed at your response. This is so because you are so very from the point No one is talking about the point you are raising. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by olaayodele(m): 5:00pm On May 09, 2020 |
Openbusiness: It is better you stand by the word of God and not by individual. Each person will give account for himself. Pastor poju based his point on the word of God. Even God spoke through the prophets of old about lockdown:Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by olaayodele(m): 5:05pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: I can sympathize with you. I believe that you must be a pastor, missing the tithe and offerings. Members can still pay these online. Pastor poju barked up his points by making references to the Bible. God is not an author of confusion |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 5:07pm On May 09, 2020 |
ecgreb: ECgreb, If you're what you claim to be, you will understand that we are not talking about personalities here, but the church, the place of worship to be opened for iron to sharpen Iron. It's only God, who knows who is serving and not. No one is judging anyone's work here to know who's true or false. After all there was a sharp division between Apostle Paul and Apostle Barnabas, that led to their separation. |
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