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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Juliusmalema: 7:20pm On May 23
lawani:
You can not become anything in the Benin empire without knowing how to speak Yoruba.

Seriously?
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 7:28pm On May 23
Juliusmalema:


Seriously?
Yes, very true. The lingua franca of the empire was Yoruba. The palace was distinct from the suburbs where edo was spoken. The palace was a city housing over 50 thousand souls and their language was Yoruba not edo.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Juliusmalema: 7:37pm On May 23
lawani:
Yes, very true. The lingua franca of the empire was Yoruba. The palace was distinct from the suburbs where edo was spoken. The palace was a city housing over 50 thousand souls and their language was Yoruba not edo.


That is to say the ruling house are Yorubas..This is revealing...

50 thousand souls?
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 7:42pm On May 23
Juliusmalema:



That is to say the ruling house are Yorubas..This is revealing...

50 thousand souls?
The whole architecture of the empire was Yoruba but the suburbs of the capital or palace had their own vernacular which was and still is edo.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Juliusmalema: 7:43pm On May 23
lawani:
The whole architecture of the empire was Yoruba but the suburbs of the capital or palace had their own vernacular which was and still is edo.

Rightly put as sub ethnic group revolving around the palace.

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 7:55pm On May 23
Juliusmalema:


Rightly put as sub ethnic group revolving around the palace.
The Benin kingdom not empire, is now edo. Edo speakers overwhelmed the palace in the late 19th century.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 10:04pm On May 23
lawani:
The whole architecture of the empire was Yoruba but the suburbs of the capital or palace had their own vernacular which was and still is edo.







Only you comment with no proves.....


Shouting here and there benin is youba empire


I told you, you need sleep


Again virtually everything we have in common with yorubas were introduced by benin to yorubas.....

The title oba
Our indigenous idols
Our coral breads
And so many more



See your borrow, borrow ooni



See the owa ibokun in the heart of osun state dressing like edo monarch

Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 12:45am On May 24
gregyboy:








Only you comment with no proves.....


Shouting here and there benin is youba empire


I told you, you need sleep


Again virtually everything we have in common with yorubas were introduced by benin to yorubas.....

The title oba
Our indigenous idols
Our coral breads
And so many more



See your borrow, borrow ooni



See the owa ibokun in the heart of osun state dressing like edo monarch
how does the owa dress like edo monarch
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:33am On May 24
Moneywomen17:
how does the owa dress like edo monarch

Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 10:43am On May 24
gregyboy:



The owa obokun monarchy is older than the Benin monarchy, so the Benin copied from the Ijesa.

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 12:26pm On May 24
[quote author=lawani post=89903202]The owa obokun monarchy is older than the Benin monarchy, so the Benin copied from the Ijesa.[/quote

I never said that.....



The owo palace is older then the benin palace does that mean the king occupying the throne is not a benin monarchy.....


The owo palace is even older tgen the ife palace does that mean owo birthed ife.....
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 12:26pm On May 24
lawani:
The owa obokun monarchy is older than the Benin monarchy, so the Benin copied from the Ijesa.


I never said that.....



The owo palace is older then the benin palace does that mean the king occupying the throne is not a benin monarchy.....


The owo palace is even older tgen the ife palace does that mean owo birthed ife.....
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 12:38pm On May 24
gregyboy:


I never said that.....



The owo palace is older then the benin palace does that mean the king occupying the throne is not a benin monarchy.....


The owo palace is even older tgen the ife palace does that mean owo birthed ife.....


the owo monarchy is not a Benin monarchy. They are descended from Ile Ife.

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 1:04pm On May 24
lawani:
the owo monarchy is not a Benin monarchy. They are descended from Ile Ife.



You're a very funny fellow, you make authoritive claims like you're the all and all, no proves, no facts nothing you bring to prove your point rather

What you believe and not what others have said you're argue a primary school student no offense tho

Nigga bring prove to drive your point


Owa originated from ife so am just mean to
Believe it because you said it, when scholars had said a Yoruba king from ilesha paid benin to war ijesha and benin found away to install their king
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 1:16pm On May 24
gregyboy:




You're a very funny fellow, you make authoritive claims like you're the all and all, no proves, no facts nothing you bring to prove your point rather

What you believe and not what others have said you're argue a primary school student no offense tho

Nigga bring prove to drive your point


Owa originated from ife so am just mean to
Believe it because you said it, when scholars had said a Yoruba king from ilesha paid benin to war ijesha and benin found away to install their king
I have said I can't post links because I don't know how to with my phone but you can google owo to see that the oba is not from Benin neither is the owa obokun of Ijesaland from Benin. They are both descendants of oduduwa like the oba of Benin. The fact that owa obokun Gbegbaaje sought Benin help during a war does not make the owa obokun stool to be from Benin. History does not say that. You ought to know that even if you reawake the Benin empire today, you will still have to use Yoruba as lingua franca and not edo. That is the point of my original post. Your ancestors lived in the Benin suburbs and not the palace or capital.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by gregyboy(m): 1:34pm On May 24
lawani:
I have said I can't post links because I don't know how to with my phone but you can google owo to see that the oba is not from Benin neither is the owa obokun of Ijesaland from Benin. They are both descendants of oduduwa like the oba of Benin. The fact that owa obokun Gbegbaaje sought Benin help during a war does not make the owa obokun stool to be from Benin. History does not say that. You ought to know that even if you reawake the Benin empire today, you will still have to use Yoruba as lingua franca and not edo. That is the point of my original post. Your ancestors lived in the Benin suburbs and not the palace or capital.


Oduduwa never even existed
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 1:43pm On May 24
gregyboy:



I don’t see any correlation unless Benin wants to claim circular beads or beads In general.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 1:44pm On May 24
gregyboy:




You're a very funny fellow, you make authoritive claims like you're the all and all, no proves, no facts nothing you bring to prove your point rather

What you believe and not what others have said you're argue a primary school student no offense tho

Nigga bring prove to drive your point


Owa originated from ife so am just mean to
Believe it because you said it, when scholars had said a Yoruba king from ilesha paid benin to war ijesha and benin found away to install their king
what scholar said Benin install a king in ijesha gregy liar. Owa obokun throne is from ife just like urs. No scholar in the world has ever written that the ijesha king came from Benin. If I call TA011 over here wey get ur time now u go dey claim victim.

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 1:48pm On May 24
gregyboy:


I never said that.....



The owo palace is older then the benin palace does that mean the king occupying the throne is not a benin monarchy.....


The owo palace is even older tgen the ife palace does that mean owo birthed ife.....


owo king has no relation to Benin monarchy. Owo king trace their origin to ife just like ur king. Benin do not own bead or circular beads we have debated the issue in the past. Akun (bead) is a strong part of Yoruba culture

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 1:50pm On May 24
gregyboy:



Oduduwa never even existed
which one is it

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by TAO11(f): 2:03pm On May 24
Moneywomen17:
what scholar said Benin install a king in ijesha gregy liar. Owa obokun throne is from ife just like urs. No scholar in the world has ever written that the ijesha king came from Benin. If I call TA011 over here wey get ur time now u go dey claim victim.

Bro I noticed you spelt TA011 instead of TAO11 (emphasis on the "O" ).

That gregyboy is my favourite sport. Just call on me whenever is around. cheesy

Although I'm aware you're more than capable to trash him, but sometimes I just need to relax with my favourite sport.

Cheers!
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 2:10pm On May 24
TAO11:


Bro I noticed you spelt TA011 instead of TAO11 (emphasis on the "O" ).

That gregyboy is my favourite sport. Just call on me whenever is around. cheesy

Although I'm aware you're more than capable to trash him, but sometimes I just need to relax with my favourite sport.

Cheers!
so it’s zero not o got it. TA011 got it. I mostly don’t have time for gregy cuz he is so stupid but u seem to be able to force sense through his thick skull by force so yeah I will just tag u when he is going crazy again and leave him at ur mercy.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by TAO11(f): 2:22pm On May 24
Moneywomen17:
so it’s zero not o got it. TA011 got it. I mostly don’t have time for gregy cuz he is so stupid but u seem to be able to force sense through his thick skull by force so yeah I will just tag u when he is going crazy again and leave him at ur mercy.

No! The correct thing is "O".

You've been mistakenly using zero ("0" ) instead.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Moneywomen17(m): 2:28pm On May 24
TAO11:


No! The correct thing is "O".

You've been mistakenly using zero ("0" ) instead.
oh ok so TAO11

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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Etinosa1234(m): 3:14pm On May 24
lawani:
You can not become anything in the Benin empire without knowing how to speak Yoruba.

You can't become anything in Oyo Empire if u don't know how to speak Hausa..

U think na only u Sabi talk lie
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Etinosa1234(m): 3:23pm On May 24
lawani:
The Benin empire was a Yoruba empire thorough and thorough. The Yoruba language was used as lingua franca during the days of the empire. The people of ugbodu in delta state migrated from the Benin empire according to their history and they still speak a Yoruba dialect today. Benin empire was a sister state to Ijesa, Ijebu and etc, they spoke the same language. The Benin palace was a sprawling complex home to over 50 thousand people and all those people spoke Yoruba as mother tongue. It was in the 19th century that edo people from the suburbs overwhelmed the palace. Nowadays some edo revisionist try so hard to rewrite the history as an edo empire but this is far from the truth.

Only God knows how u guys form this lies because it's so awesome..

So during the time of akengbuda, olua,ozolua, arhuanrhuan, akenzua, they were all speaking Yoruba..

Guy u dey lie sha...

Show me a credible proof and I'll show u Buhari's PhD certificate
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 3:23pm On May 24
Etinosa1234:


You can't become anything in Oyo Empire if u don't know how to speak Hausa..

U think na only u Sabi talk lie
I am not talking of today's Benin kingdom which is edo but of the empire which used Yoruba as lingua and had more Yoruba citizens than edo.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Etinosa1234(m): 3:35pm On May 24
lawani:
I am not talking of today's Benin kingdom which is edo but of the empire which used Yoruba as lingua and had more Yoruba citizens than edo.

so the oba of Benin and the 7 chiefs that were speaking Benin were ruling over Yorubas

Judge urself..Will a kingdom filled with Yoruba allow a Benin to rule?

Since all of us want to be mad here...

The ife kingdom used Hausa as lingua and had more Hausa citizens than Yoruba...
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by TAO11(f): 3:44pm On May 24
Etinosa1234:


so the oba of Benin and the 7 chiefs that were speaking Benin were ruling over Yorubas

Judge urself..Will a kingdom filled with Yoruba allow a Benin to rule?

Since all of us want to be mad here...

The ife kingdom used Hausa as lingua and had more Hausa citizens than Yoruba...

Benin Kingdom was made up of Edos obviously.

But the lingua-franca of the palace and the whole kingdom of Edo was at a time Yoruba language.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Etinosa1234(m): 3:52pm On May 24
TAO11:


Benin Kingdom was made up of Edos obviously.

But the lingua-franca of the palace and the whole kingdom of Edo was at a time Yoruba language.
This is a complete fallacy..

I can also wake up one day and claim that the lingua franca of the oyo Empire was Hausa.....
it doesn't correlate at all..

If they were speaking Yoruba as at that time..Edo language would have completely died by now..

if They were actually speaking Yoruba then...then what led to the decline of the language in the land...

You can hardly find a Homegrown benin that can hear Yoruba sef
There is no source, link , evidence or proof that this happened....

what u and the other guy are saying is even contradictory.. he said Yoruba citizens, u are saying Yoruba speaking Benin
it's All bunch of lies and fallacy..

I never wanted to get involved..but it's really annoying
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by lawani: 4:00pm On May 24
TAO11:


Benin Kingdom was made up of Edos obviously.

But the lingua-franca of the palace and the whole kingdom of Edo was at a time Yoruba language.
benin kingdom is now edo but the old empire had more yoruba than edo and the palace which spoke Yoruba was a city on its own with over 50 thousand people who were all Yoruba speakers in the past. The edo lived in the suburbs.
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba Empire. by Etinosa1234(m): 4:11pm On May 24
lawani:
benin kingdom is now edo but the old empire had more yoruba than edo and the palace which spoke Yoruba was a city on its own with over 50 thousand people who were all Yoruba speakers in the past. The edo lived in the suburbs.

Judge urself..what u wrote...is it reasonable..

How will the original citizens of an established kingdom be relegated to suburbs while foreigners be working in the palace..

Are u implying that the oba and his chiefs who were obviously speaking Benin were surrounded by Yoruba speakers...

Don't u think a coup might have happened if ur story is true

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