MrBrownJay1:


i guess the old look of these planes, makes us believe they are obsolete today compared to F22s and F16s...

Don't judge a book buy is cover
and who sells an obsolete at that price per unit

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Look. You can take a typical Embraer Super Tucano airframe to India or Russia or the United Kingdom to build it into whatever you want. Israel does it with every weapons platform it buys from the States. But when it guts and rebuilds an M1A1 Abrams or an F16 it calls it something else.

We are buying an American version of the Embraer Super Tucano. I don't think there is anything so difficult in understanding that. We may have had the option of buying a Brazilian built Embraer. Who knows why we didn't but knowing the quality of American equipment it makes sense to buy an American. And the first time in our history to purchase American combat aircraft.

Bros, stop proving what is wrong. The Super Tucano has its nation of origin as Brazil, that shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

A simple Wiki search would have saved you from this unending claim to falsehood.

For better understanding, the fact that a Toyota car is built in the United States does not mean the technology isn't owned by Toyota Global, headquartered in Japan, neither does it change the fact that Japan owns Toyota.

If you find it too difficult to research more, here is an except from Wikipedia

In addition to its manufacture in Brazil, Embraer has set up a production line in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corporation for the manufacture of A-29's to many export customers.

For all those complaining about this plane, pls read. This is a super modern light attack plane specially designed to fight on ground terrorists that do not have air power.

The capabilities the A-29 provides has drawn the attention of other nations facing similar challenges from terrorist organizations, as well as the need to surveil and secure long land borders. The U.S. government has agreed to sell six Super Tucanos to Lebanon which is dealing with a number of threats to its security. Recently, the U.S. government approved Nigeria’s request for twelve A-29s. This country is in a deadly struggle with one of the most vicious ISIS-affiliated groups, Boko Haram, but lacks the appropriate aircraft to conduct ground attack/ISR operations over the heavily forested terrain in which the terrorist group operates. With its advanced sensors and laser designator, the A-29 will enable the Nigerian Air Force to conduct precise close air support strikes in populated areas while reducing the risk of collateral damage. The A-29 is the perfect aircraft for Nigeria.

gidgiddy:
Im not impressed with these planes, looks like the type used in the second world war

i think say na only me

Mowoe:
I don't know a thing about fighter jets but I know this one is vintage. See below...

We should purchase such high-tech fighter jets to fight terrorism?


Those jets are designed for waging conventional warfare. The Super Tucano light attack aircraft is the perfect aircraft for counterinsurgency and antiterrorism operations. Even the US special forces and Afghan army uses it.

You know, in this part of the world, A stands for distinction and F stands for failures


This is why the govt, in a bid to show themselves as being excellent procured A series fighter jets instead of the F series.


But the F series are better

next month u go hear say boko boys don shoot two down while one crash land during training mission.... at least if nigeria can not afford US specs, make dem try Russian spec too na... If dem use 1billon dollars buy plane of 50million dollars at least dem go see up to 10 jets buy but reverse is d case... wetin concern 9ja politician's...If you die you die niyen.


who dey even give boko boys all dos weapons dem dey use.. Nawa o, God no go shame us.

What will it be used for, is Nigeria in a war, or did they want to use it to attack their personal enemies?

That's our goodwill messanger

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Embraer is a Brazilian company. Embraer makes all sorts of aircraft from passenger aircraft to corporate jets. When it comes to military aircraft it is a different ball game. Military aircraft have two components, the airframe itself and the weapons systems. The Super Tucano 29 is a joint venture between Embraer and the Sierra Nevada Corporation based in Florida. Check your facts. The plane we are buying is built in Florida. Look at the pictures. Do those pilots resemble Brazilians.

The Nigerian Airforce awarded the contract for 12 units of Super Tucano light ground attack aircraft to Sierra Nevada Corporation of Florida, United States. That is a fact.

Embraer set up a production line in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corporation for the manufacture of A-29's for export to customers.

so now you are using pilot to judge manufacturer of an aircraft.

axponline:
For all those complaining about this plane, pls read. This is a super modern light attack plane specially designed to fight on ground terrorists that do not have air power.

The capabilities the A-29 provides has drawn the attention of other nations facing similar challenges from terrorist organizations, as well as the need to surveil and secure long land borders. The U.S. government has agreed to sell six Super Tucanos to Lebanon which is dealing with a number of threats to its security. Recently, the U.S. government approved Nigeria’s request for twelve A-29s. This country is in a deadly struggle with one of the most vicious ISIS-affiliated groups, Boko Haram, but lacks the appropriate aircraft to conduct ground attack/ISR operations over the heavily forested terrain in which the terrorist group operates. With its advanced sensors and laser designator, the A-29 will enable the Nigerian Air Force to conduct precise close air support strikes in populated areas while reducing the risk of collateral damage. The A-29 is the perfect aircraft for Nigeria.

Haaa, if i hear..... who tell u say those werey boko boys no get Ground to air missiles.... 4get o.... the weapon dos guys has enh only baba God knows d werey people selling all those stuffs to dem.. laslas, all the machine guns and tanks dem get shebi na from our gallant army hands dem dey seize am use fight them back again.....As e funny reach bro, the same US wey sell this tucano gv nigeria fit be d same people wey dey supply dis boko boys weapon.... dem kuku get machinery b4...

hotwax:


The same reason we can't get nuclear energy.

You remember they brought the idea of siting nuclear power stations in SE and Akwa ibom, come and see protest from all quarters. One nuclear reactor “accident“ in SE will wipe out the entires south within 20 years of nuclear radiation fallout. A country where people burn huge offices like they are burning firewood. Common oil polluted Niger delta, they cannot clean, but they are busy wasting oil money on frivolous projects. I tire sef.

ooohoo:


Bros, stop proving what is wrong. The Super Tucano has its nation of origin as Brazil, that shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

A simple Wiki search would have saved you from this unending claim to falsehood.

For better understanding, the fact that a Toyota car is built in the United States does not mean the technology isn't owned by Toyota Global, headquartered in Japan, neither does it change the fact that Japan owns Toyota.

If you find it too difficult to research more, here is an except from Wikipedia

You just do not understand how military equipment is made. To compare a combat aircraft with a Toyota is... puzzling. Those munitions (bombs, rockets) you see there are American made. To fit them on an aircraft together with the targetting systems, the communication systems, the survival systems, etc, you have to rebuild the entire aircraft from the ground up. It is not like pimping a Toyota. Russian guns and bombs will not work on American aircraft and versa. Brazilian gear will not work on American aircraft.

The airframe is Brazilian but the airframe alone DOES NOT MAKE A COMBAT AIRCRAFT. There is a reason Sierra Nevada not Embraer of Brazil was given the contract. The Airforce considers the capabilities of the aircraft more important that its looks or its so called name. If you want to compare automobiles here is one.

Innoson and many others buy CKD's from China and build vehicles according to their own (Innoson's) specifications. Say what you wish, it is an Innoson. You can go to China to buy something like it and the Chinese company may be selling to other African coubtries but once they are built or rebuilt they take on a new identity. If you look at all the variations and iterations of the Super Tucano you will be shocked.

One thing is certain, and that is the fact that nothing the Nigerian government does will ever please Nigerians. Even if it does the right thing which it rarely do, Nigerians will still criticize them.

Purchasing the Super Tucano light attack aircraft is a highly commendable step in the right direction. If properly used, it can be a big gamechanger in the fight against Boko Haram. Yet ignorant Nigerians who can't differentiate a fighter jet from a flying balloon are here giving useless critisms.

danielconstant:
looks like a 4th generation Bush_plane .... anyway Africa is bushy.


#modified... for those linking my typo to politics, seems you lack comprehension or you have just decided to be a political slave... I advise you become useful to yourself and your family.... trust me you will be happier.

maybe its for Agro fumigation

sexylassie2:


Embraer set up a production line in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corporation for the manufacture of A-29's for export to customers.

so now you are using pilot to judge manufacturer of an aircraft.

I just tire for the guy, yet, he's arguing over an open secret. Honestly, I don't even understand the basis of his argument again.

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The F-22 is an air superiority fighter meaning it is primarily designed to kill other fighters. This is does by stealth, an extraordinarily powerful radar that enables it engage and destroy enemy planes well beyond their own missile capabilities. It can engage targets up to 150 kilometres, further than any fighter today.

What makes a good jet fighter makes a poor ground attack aircraft. Ground attack means that your primary enemy is on the ground. If your enemy is not a missile battery equiped with radar the F-22 will never detect you at the speed it and the minimum altitude it operates. You need an aircraft that is slow enough to recon and spot highly mobile targets such as infantry. This is where the Tucano excels.

The best ground attack aircraft in the world today is the Fairchild A-10 Warthog. But even that plane's strong point is against armour like battle tanks not even infantry. By the way the plane is over 40 years old in service and the technology is becoming obsolete. The US will not even sell to us anyway.

you dey mind this one ni... does he know how much it cost to operate the F-22 or the amount you spend to service the machine. Nigeria isn't fighting a war. Just like the SR-17 black bird, what made the US let go of that bird was because of the cost to operate the machine in a single operation. At least the tucano cost 500 dollars to operate per hour, the likes of F-22, F-35, F-15 etc cost a thousand dollars to operate per hour.... politicains 4 Nigerian no get that kind money to waste.

[stop saying what you don't know, morocco and egypt currently operate f16 author=marvin906 post=90064018]



shut your mouth..
even the strongest military in Africa doesn't have f15 or 16
your brain can't even ask yourself even if we have the money will the US sell[/quote]

Yenefer:
Lamidi cownu is coming with F35 C

That would be cownu of Gabon. NK died a month ago.

[quote author=AnonPoet post=90060949]Nigeria's A-29 Super Tucano COIN aircraft READY !! https:///TPdmdftODuhttps://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1266003820959727626?s=19[/quote

To be honest ehn, this aircraft looks like a toy to me oo, where are all these Black hawk helicopters naa?

teejoyz:
[stop saying what you don't know, morocco and egypt currently operate f16 author=marvin906 post=90064018]



shut your mouth..
even the strongest military in Africa doesn't have f15 or 16
your brain can't even ask yourself even if we have the money will the US sell

The US only sell sophisticated jet's to their trusted Allie's.... It once happened wen the US sold 100 units of Fighters jet to Iran and after some years, Iran wanted to used the same Fighters jet on the US soil...the US being smart stop the production of the spare part's of the jet to Iran which made the irainian govt to cancle the used of the fighter jet. so the US will never sell any sophisticated jets to Nigeria or any Africa country.

sexylassie2:


Embraer set up a production line in the United States in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corporation for the manufacture of A-29's for export to customers.

so now you are using pilot to judge manufacturer of an aircraft.

As long as you view military products like automobiles or household goods you will not understand. Military aircraft are defined by their capabilities not by their brand name.

Today there are half a dozen iterations of the famous Kalashinokov AK-47 that if the Police or Army places an order for a consignment it has to specify exactly which model and country of manufacture because there is a huge difference in their make and performance. You may call the AK-47 a Russian rifle but I bet the Chinese who make far more units will disagree. Though under license, the Chinese made AK is a bonafide Chinese weapon. You will not call it Russia/Chinese AK-47.

IN THIS NEW WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY NIGERIAN GOVT ARE BUYING OLD PLANES THAT CAN ONLY FIGHT INSURGENCY.

WE ARE GIANT OF AFRICA O.

THE F SERIES JUST TWO OF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OK. THAN THIS OLD FIGHTER JETS.

WELL! AT LEAST THEY PROCURE WE SET EYES ON THEM. THAN AUDIO PROCUREMENT AND NOTHING TILL ETERNITY.


PLS LET'S GIVE OUR LIVES TO CHRIST . HE COMING SOON.

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You just do not understand how military equipment is made. To compare a combat aircraft with a Toyota is... puzzling. Those munitions (bombs, rockets) you see there are American made. To fit them on an aircraft together with the targetting systems, the communication systems, the survival systems, etc, you have to rebuild the entire aircraft from the ground up. It is not like pimping a Toyota. Russian guns and bombs will not work on American aircraft and versa. Brazilian gear will not work on American aircraft.

The airframe is Brazilian but the airframe alone DOES NOT MAKE A COMBAT AIRCRAFT. There is a reason Sierra Nevada not Embraer of Brazil was given the contract. The Airforce considers the capabilities of the aircraft more important that its looks or its so called name. If you want to compare automobiles here is one.

Innoson and many others buy CKD's from China and build vehicles according to their own (Innoson's) specifications. Say what you wish, it is an Innoson. You can go to China to buy something like it and the Chinese company may be selling to other African coubtries but once they are built or rebuilt they take on a new identity. If you look at all the variations and iterations of the Super Tucano you will be shocked.

Your claim that Americans swindled Nigeria over the Super Tucano is false, QED. Who owns Super Tacano? Brazil, QED.

Military aircraft manufacturing works just like every other manufacturing process. For your information, the F-35 LIGHTNING II parts are sourced from countries around the world, does that mean it is not owned by the United States?

Terma, a Danish defence company provides over 70 mission-critical parts and components, such as, but are not limited to, composite leading edges for the aircraft horizontal tails, composite skins for the vertical and horizontal stabilizers, advanced lightweight composite components for the center fuselage, missionized Gun Pods for the STOVL and CV bariants, data acquisition pods for flight test instrumentation, air-to-ground pylons, radar Electronics, etc. Does that change the fact the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics manufactured the fighter jet?

BAE Systems of UK developed the electronic warfare system of the F-35, does that change the fact that Lockeed Martin manufactured the aircraft?

Miracle1991:
God bless Buhari
God bless Nigeria
I know some corrupt elements Will wish that the money would have been shared instead of buying these planes.

Oga be sensible! Who uses a propeller plane in this day and age? Even past governments bought jets na this thing you dey make noise about? Amadioha see them here o.

teejoyz:
[stop saying what you don't know, morocco and egypt currently operate f16 author=marvin906 post=90064018]



shut your mouth..
even the strongest military in Africa doesn't have f15 or 16
your brain can't even ask yourself even if we have the money will the US sell

dude are you high i corrected myself..
the question I asked is how many are operational
and by the way Egypt are looking to replace those jets with Russian sukhoi..
what's the point of having jets that has been placed on restrictions

VicM6:
The US only sell sophisticated jet's to their trusted Allie's.... It once happened wen the US sold 100 units of Fighters jet to Iran and after some years, Iran wanted to used the same Fighters jet on the US soil...the US being smart stop the production of the spare part's of the jet to Iran which made the irainian govt to cancle the used of the fighter jet. so the US will never sell any sophisticated jets to Nigeria or any Africa country.

point of correction
they will sell it if they want to..
but they will reatrict it..
Egypt f 16 can't target Israel or US fighter jets so in a war with any of those countries those jets are useless..
that's why I prefer Russia no strings attached..
why so you think most countries.prefer Russia weapons..
even turkey dumped US Patriot for S400

Miracle1991:
God bless Buhari
God bless Nigeria
I know some corrupt elements Will wish that the money would have been shared instead of buying these planes.

It is the non corrupt elements that brought this current hardships Nigerians are passing through.

In the history of Nigeria no corrupt element has brought hardship like the one we are currently facing with the non currupt elements.

Is this Aircraft our problem? Are there power supply which is the engine drive of industrialization in Nigeria?
So what's new

Element insi

superamoled:
People underestimate this fighter plane because it's a propeller plane not knowing that it's a lot more functional and sophisticated than it looks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhazfkVSrDk=48

STFU are you alright are you going to win against a gas propelled jet like the f150 and co

my brother this is a world war 2 fighter jets this shit cannot even outclass a SAM missile in terms of our aerial military assets Nigeria is thrash hands down

Lol...rubbish Aircraft. Resembles the once used in ww2... Assuming we don't even have the resources to get 5th generation and 4++ once, at least we can still manage the a10 warthog which is better.

Businext:
I'm truly happy with and for Nigeria
But do you know Russia recently lost a helicopter and it's 4 crew members?
Why am I saying this,
We spend so much on a helicopter that can be brought down on its first outing but fail to see the end of a WAR that could have been dealt with with better ways since 2006, 2010 and all throughout GEJ'S tenure. Now GEJ wanted to negotiate with BH boys and they named Buhari as one person/emissary they'd respect and listen to. Fast forward to 2020 Buhari has been in charge for over 5 years without any visible difference between himself and GEJ, even while the later has had no military experience and had to rely on the technical and expert advice from the entire military and NAS. I kid you not this Tucano while cool will never solve our problem with BH. We know but we feign loyalty to Buhari as though he's the best thing after sliced bread and blueband.

Our security is in a deep pit (its not well with our security, pun intended between pit and well) that we need strong able hands to pull it out firmly but gently.
Curb the internal snitches within the military, prosecute sponsors, nip the lucrative side of the BH war that has turned several people to arms dealer, cooks, informants and village raiders, pay and cater for the soldiers and front line personnel, engage idle youths in that region and around the country so they don't become ready recruits, ensure Muslim clerics don't teach messages that incite these ideologies that everything outside Islam is haram and jihad is good and die once and win 7 virgins forever, among several other suggestions that are workable.

#GodDoesNotMakeMistake
#GodCreatedUsNigerians
#WarIsUglyPeaceIsLovely

The SOLUTION to all the Problems you listed above is TRUE RESTRUCTURING OF THE NATION now before it will be too late.