Hello bible students, let's discuss. Is the Father (which we know as God), the son (which we know as Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (God's active force) really one?
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Please let's be constructive in our responses, and also with biblical backups. No insults, no prejudice. I'll respond all civil comments.
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We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.
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OAM4J, Lalasticlala, Seun

If God is the Son Jesus
And God is also the Holy Spirit
But the holy spirit is not Jesus
Do you understand or explain that ♥️ from your perspective

Water can exist in three states and still be water.


Meanwhile I'm not religious

TheSourcerer:
If God is the Son Jesus And God is also the Holy Spirit But the holy spirit is not Jesus Do you understand or explain that ♥️ from your perspective

Please, come again (in English).

Wait till tomorrow Sunday

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chatinent:

Please, come again (in English).

I explained your Bible

michlins:
Water can exist in three states and still be water.


Meanwhile I'm not religious

Constructively meaningless.

chatinent:

Constructively meaningless.

If water can exist in three states and still be water,God can exist in three forms and still be true God

These Islamabad People

Won't be surprised if this makes front-page cause this are the things seun likes.

michlins:


If water can exist in three states and still be water,God can exist in three forms and still be true God

Water can exist in the three states of matter depending on its temperature.
At room temperature water is liquid, even ice will turn liquid. Steam will also condense. Water exists at equilibrium in the three states only at triple point which is not a normal circumstance.

The trinitarian claim is that three Gods exists as one!

1. Do ice, liquid water and steam exist as one?

2. Or do the father, son and spirit exists only in an abnormal circumstance just like water?

Just a second, I'll give a my answer tomorrow morning

chatinent:
Hello bible students, let's discuss. Is the Father (which we know as God), the son (which we know as Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (God's active force) really one?
.
Please let's be constructive in our responses, and also with biblical backups. No insults, no prejudice. I'll respond all civil comments.
.
We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.
.
OAM4J, Lalasticlala, Seun

They say God answers prayers, why don't you ask Him since He can answer for Himself?
This has become an unpopular topic as it always come out almost every week?

chatinent:

We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.

Have you ever read the book of John beyond vs 16 of John chapter 3?

It seems every one comes in here posting one popular verse or another, then pretending the story ende there.

How you go call yourself bible student when all you have to show is one of those overused and most misunderstood verses in chapter 3 of John?

Missyajoke:
Won't be surprised if this makes front-page cause this are the things seun likes.

Na you dey pay the man bill for am? Abeg, leave am make him do business o'jare!
Cheezzzuss!

chatinent:
Hello bible students, let's discuss. Is the Father (which we know as God), the son (which we know as Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (God's active force) really one?
.
Please let's be constructive in our responses, and also with biblical backups. No insults, no prejudice. I'll respond all civil comments.
.
We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.
.
OAM4J, Lalasticlala, Seun

No they're not one!

If you sin against the Father He MAY forgive you.

If you sin against the son, he WILL forgive you.

But sins again the spirit HAS NO FORGIVENESS.

Can we really understand the trinity ? We can't ,
how can a finite being understand an infinite
God ? Our responsibility is to believe what God
has said about Himself.

The old testament prove the fact that there is
ONLY ONE GOD. Isreal is surrounded with many
nation that worship different gods. God people
needed to know that there is only ONE GOD:

Deut. 6:4
"Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is ONE LORD"

This verse give two details about God. 1. The
nature of God (God's ONENESS) and 2. Jehovah
is the only God.The old testament emphasizing
of the UNITY of God, is not silent with respect to
the PLURALITY of God's Nature. The old
testament lay the groundwork for the new
testament revelation.

The hebrew word for God is Elohim, plural in
form."In the beginning God CREATED" (Genesis
1:1). God is the omnipotent CREATOR! The
name for "God" found in Genesis 1:1 is the
Hebrew word "ELOHIM" the ending of this word
(..IM) is a plural ending,(more than one) just like
our english language "S" is the ending word for
plural. For example:

1. CHERUBIM (Exodus 25:18-20)
2. SERAPHIM (Isaiah 6:2,6)
3. TERAPHIM(judges 17:5)

The words end with IM , they are plural in form.
In Genesis 1:1 the verb "CREATED" is a
SINGULAR verb, and it means "HE (singular)
CREATED." Two answers may be given to the
question, "Who created the heavens and the
earth?"

1. HE DID (singular) because the verb means
"HE CREATED." The verb does not mean
"THEY CREATED."
2. GOD DID (plural) because the word
ELOHIM is a plural word!

So, there is a sense in which God the Creator is
singular. There is only ONE God and He is the
Creator. There is no other God. It is also true
that there is a sense in which He is plural. This
brings us to our next point:
PLURAL UNITY OF GOD.

Deuteronomy 6:4 says: "Hear, O Israel: The
LORD [singular] our God [ELOHIM-plural] is ONE
Lord."

God is Love, if God is two, our Love will be
DIVIDED and one will not Get our full devotion.
So YES, God is ONE and He deserve our Full
attention.

The Hebrew word"ONE"found in Deuteronomy 6:4
is a word that can be used to describe a
plural (composite) UNITY (a unity made up of
more than one component). For Example in
Genesis 11:5 "Behold, the PEOPLE IS ONE." The
people (plural) at Babel were united together as
ONE. It was a UNITY, but it was made up of
many people (a plural unity).

Another example is in Genesis 2:24 where the
same word "one" is found: "Therefore shall a
man leave his father and his mother and shall
cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh."
Here we have a plural unity. It is a ONENESS
made up of two persons" a husband and a wife"
They (plural) shall be one (singular) flesh. The
two are one.

Just as Genesis 11:5 speaks of a plural unity
(many people being ONE), and just as Genesis@@
2:24 speaks of a plural unity (two people being
ONE), so also Deuteronomy 6:4 describes God
who is a PLURAL UNITY. Later we will learn that
this plural unity is actually a TRI-UNITY.

In Isaiah 6:8 , we have a threefold declaration of God's holiness: "And one cried unto another, and said, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of His glory " (Isaiah 6:3). we learn elsewhere in
Scripture, namely that 1) God the Father is Holy
(John 17:11); 2) God the Son is Holy (Heb. 7:26
and compare Luke 1:35); 3) God the Holy Spirit
is Holy (as His very Name declares)

In Genesis , God is repeatedly mention as the
creator, and in Genesis 1:2 we saw how the Holy
spirit is actively involve " was moving in the face
of the water. And in john 1:1 we understand that
the Word (jesus) was God and everything were
created through Him.

malvisguy212:
Can we really understand the trinity ? We can't ,
how can a finite being understand an infinite
God ? Our responsibility is to believe what God
has said about Himself.

The old testament prove the fact that there is
ONLY ONE GOD. Isreal is surrounded with many
nation that worship different gods. God people
needed to know that there is only ONE GOD:

Deut. 6:4
"Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is ONE LORD"

This verse give two details about God. 1. The
nature of God (God's ONENESS) and 2. Jehovah
is the only God.The old testament emphasizing
of the UNITY of God, is not silent with respect to
the PLURALITY of God's Nature. The old
testament lay the groundwork for the new
testament revelation.

The hebrew word for God is Elohim, plural in
form."In the beginning God CREATED" (Genesis
1:1). God is the omnipotent CREATOR! The
name for "God" found in Genesis 1:1 is the
Hebrew word "ELOHIM" the ending of this word
(..IM) is a plural ending,(more than one) just like
our english language "S" is the ending word for
plural. For example:

1. CHERUBIM (Exodus 25:18-20)
2. SERAPHIM (Isaiah 6:2,6)
3. TERAPHIM(judges 17:5)

The words end with IM , they are plural in form.
In Genesis 1:1 the verb "CREATED" is a
SINGULAR verb, and it means "HE (singular)
CREATED." Two answers may be given to the
question, "Who created the heavens and the
earth?"

1. HE DID (singular) because the verb means
"HE CREATED." The verb does not mean
"THEY CREATED."
2. GOD DID (plural) because the word
ELOHIM is a plural word!

So, there is a sense in which God the Creator is
singular. There is only ONE God and He is the
Creator. There is no other God. It is also true
that there is a sense in which He is plural. This
brings us to our next point:
PLURAL UNITY OF GOD.

Deuteronomy 6:4 says: "Hear, O Israel: The
LORD [singular] our God [ELOHIM-plural] is ONE
Lord."

God is Love, if God is two, our Love will be
DIVIDED and one will not Get our full devotion.
So YES, God is ONE and He deserve our Full
attention.

The Hebrew word"ONE"found in Deuteronomy 6:4
is a word that can be used to describe a
plural (composite) UNITY (a unity made up of
more than one component). For Example in
Genesis 11:5 "Behold, the PEOPLE IS ONE." The
people (plural) at Babel were united together as
ONE. It was a UNITY, but it was made up of
many people (a plural unity).

Another example is in Genesis 2:24 where the
same word "one" is found: "Therefore shall a
man leave his father and his mother and shall
cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh."
Here we have a plural unity. It is a ONENESS
made up of two persons" a husband and a wife"
They (plural) shall be one (singular) flesh. The
two are one.

Just as Genesis 11:5 speaks of a plural unity
(many people being ONE), and just as Genesis@@
2:24 speaks of a plural unity (two people being
ONE), so also Deuteronomy 6:4 describes God
who is a PLURAL UNITY. Later we will learn that
this plural unity is actually a TRI-UNITY.

In Isaiah 6:8 , we have a threefold declaration of God's holiness: "And one cried unto another, and said, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of His glory " (Isaiah 6:3). we learn elsewhere in
Scripture, namely that 1) God the Father is Holy
(John 17:11); 2) God the Son is Holy (Heb. 7:26
and compare Luke 1:35); 3) God the Holy Spirit
is Holy (as His very Name declares)

In Genesis , God is repeatedly mention as the
creator, and in Genesis 1:2 we saw how the Holy
spirit is actively involve " was moving in the face
of the water. And in john 1:1 we understand that
the Word (jesus) was God and everything were
created through Him.

The Work of the Triune God in Salvation

1. THE FATHER He planned our salvation (Rom.
8:28-31). He sent His Son (1 John 4:9-10). He
gave His Son (John 3:16; Rom.8:32).

2. THE SON He did the actual WORK of salvation (John 17:4;19:30). He was the Great Saviour (Titus
2:13-14). He died to provide salvation (1 Tim.
2:6).

3.( THE HOLY SPIRIT He gives the saved
person a NEW LIFE (2 Cor. 3:6). He gives the
saved person a NEW BIRTH (John 3:5; Tit. 3:5).
He garnishes and makes the sinner beautiful by
placing him IN CHRIST (2 Cor. 5:17), and thus
He provides him with the beautiful garments of
redemption, sanctification and justification (1
Cor. 6:11, and see 1 Cor. 1:30).

If 2 can be One, can 3 not become One?

Come to think of this, is it not written, that the body have Many Members, but yet One body,?

Therefore, even the Many, can be One!

chatinent:
Hello bible students, let's discuss. Is the Father (which we know as God), the son (which we know as Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (God's active force) really one?
.
Please let's be constructive in our responses, and also with biblical backups. No insults, no prejudice. I'll respond all civil comments.
.
We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.
.
OAM4J, Lalasticlala, Seun

The jw don't believe in Trinity and I began reasoning with them on that lately

The father should be God
The son should be Jesus
While the holy spirit shouldbe the Angels

michlins:
[s]Water can exist in three states and still be water.


Meanwhile I'm not religious[/s]

The only thing that relates in your false analogy with the trinity is that it has the letter "three"
Can water,or anything else,exist in three states at the same time?

Yes.

Mynd44, Dominque, Pocohantas, Lalasticlala, Seun, this is front page material.

Rozz:
The jw don't believe in Trinity and I began reasoning with them on that lately

You have the truth, cherish it.

helinues:
The father should be God The son should be Jesus While the holy spirit shouldbe the Angels

The Holy Spirit is not an angel; it's God's active force.

Kobojunkie:


Have you ever read the book of John beyond vs 16 of John chapter 3?

It seems every one comes in here posting one popular verse or another, then pretending the story ende there.

How you go call yourself bible student when all you have to show is one of those overused and most misunderstood verses in chapter 3 of John?

I was expecting you to quote another scripture.

michlins:


If water can exist in three states and still be water,God can exist in three forms and still be true God

Still constructively meaningless. If water can exist in three states, can it be in the three state at once?

chatinent:
I was expecting you to quote another scripture.

Why do I need to do your homework for you?

chatinent:
Hello bible students, let's discuss. Is the Father (which we know as God), the son (which we know as Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (God's active force) really one?
.
Please let's be constructive in our responses, and also with biblical backups. No insults, no prejudice. I'll respond all civil comments.
.
We all know the John 3:16, so Trinitarians could start by explaining that scripture.
.
OAM4J, Lalasticlala, Seun

1st the Holy Spirit is NOT God's active force.

The Holy Spirit is a Person not a force.
Force is enegry & has no intellect
The Holy Spirit has intellect & Emotions

Matthew 12

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
but[b] whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him[/b], neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

As we can see the Holy Spirit if offended by blasphemy will not forgive,
Jesus said He will forgive

So we can see that Jesus is separate from the Holy Spirit and both are God

Also the Father is God too

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Kobojunkie:
Why do I need to do your homework for you?

Then stop meandering.