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If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? / We Are Not Under The Laws But Are Expected To Obey The Law / Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Judybash93(m): 1:16pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: The issue i was trying to raise is that both of us can cherry pick from the Bible and come to different conclusions. Moreover the Bible condones slavery. I don't how you can justify that. The same Bible that says thou shalt not kill is the same Bible where God instructed people to annihilate a group of people for not believing in him/her. It's also the same book where the wages of adultery is stoning. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 1:31pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Judybash93: You raised issues, I answered you have not rebutted, you raise another one I yet again replied and you did not rebut. And you are here again another fresh issue. Even in the light of Clear Truth, Proven by Laws, you see Wickedness. A Wickedness established by wicked people, which the Good will Never Do. But You Do Not Listen to the Good, Yet You expect not to have Rapes, Robbings, Kidnappings, Murders and you guys have filled the earth with your Wickedness. This world ain't seen nothing yet, you guys are going eat your Wickedness and Evil until it comes out of your eyes, your noses, your ears and your pores. And you shall all cry for the wickedness but the Lord is Never going to hear. You have been severally warned you can not plant stone and harvest yam, Never The world has planted Wickedness, They are going to eat Wickednesses. They crying for corona virus, and murders, More is Coming! The world ain't seen nothing yet! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Judybash93(m): 1:37pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Yet, your god is so merciful. I see no reason to refute anything that isn't grounded in reason. You said the world was full of rapists and all em bad people and that's why good decided to destroy the world and you accept that. Why should i respond to that? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by truespeak: 1:43pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Amos 3 already tells you Everything Began in Egypt! |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 1:51pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Judybash93: Fools are deceiving you with mercy talk so that you can go on and carry on your usual Wickedness. You did not hear "He beareth not the sword in vain" Keep Screaming Mercy until the Sword Chops you into Pieces. Is it me who is getting the blow from the Sword? Nope There is nothing to respond to, I am saying that the world has planted evil and Wickedness, it Shall Eat it Bountifully! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Acehart: 1:54pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Judybash93: If slavery was never mentioned in the Bible, would it exist? Slavery existed before a dot in the Bible was penned, it still exists after the Bible was written; so how then do you blame the Bible for the furtherance of slavery? I would like you to know that God knew slavery existed, and his desire was: when his people get their country, not one person would be a poor fellow or a slave, forever: Concerning these, God said: 1. For when I bring them into the land flowing with milk and honey, which I swore to their fathers, and they have eaten and are satisfied and become prosperous, then they will turn to other gods and serve them, and spurn Me and break My covenant. 2. If a countryman of yours becomes so poor with regard to you that he sells himself to you, you shall not subject him to a slave's service. 3. However, there will be no poor among you, since the Lord will surely bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance to possess, if only you listen obediently to the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all this commandment which I am commanding you today. Point 2, shows you that God in his infinite knowledge knew a time would arise where one of his people would voluntarily offer his/herself for slavery; in His own land, He decreed that there shall be no slave. Point 1 and 3, shows you the possibility of the people breaking the covenant and thereby, engaging in slave services. God goes on to say: “If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.” Slavery arises when men are stingy to the fellow men, and cause hardship to their fellow men; and God knew this and put safeguards to prevent slavery. But your subjective and incomplete evaluation of the scriptures has allowed you to disdain and even disrespect the God of Israel You said: God instructed people to annihilate a group of people for not believing in him/her. I would have liked to ask you to furnish us with specific places in the Bible were God ordered the annihilating of a group of people based on their lack of belief in Him; I think I should ask you to do so; please, do so. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 2:00pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Acehart: Thank you for supplying this answer. Many may not know how to properly answer her, but I know that there are some out there who can answer. But she is bent on seeing God as evil, as the wicked bible she likes has helped her to maintain. And with that soul, her evil eye will not let her see. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by sonmvayina(m): 2:12pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
truespeak: The Lord does nothing without first revealing it to his servant, the prophet.. Which prophet prophesied that the Messiah was coming to die for sins? Who did God reveal the Jesus story to?
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Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by truespeak: 2:18pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Did you not hear that Abraham was a Prophet? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Judybash93(m): 2:22pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Acehart: Considering god to be all knowing, he could have told them to abolish that practice. Wasn't there any other means of making people not suffer without subjecting them to that My bad These texts might not be based on their lack of believes but these are points where God had to wipe people off the face of the earth Numbers 11:1-3 Numbers 16:35 Numbers 25:9 2 Kings 17:25 |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Judybash93(m): 2:23pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Okay boss. Have a nice day |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Acehart: 2:26pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Here are your answers: 1. Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks [of years] shall the Anointed One be cut off or killed and shall have nothing [and no one] belonging to [and defending] Him. 2. He would be a descendant of King David (Isaiah 11:1-5). • He would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2). • One would precede Him who would announce His coming (Isaiah 40:3-5; Malachi 3:1). • His own people would reject Him (Isaiah 53:3). • A friend would betray Him (Psalms 41:9). • The price for His betrayal would be 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12). • The 30 pieces of silver would buy a potter’s field (Zechariah 11:13). • Wicked people would pierce His hands and feet (Psalms 22:16). • He would suffer execution but without the breaking of any of His bones (Psalms 34:20). • Others would cast lots for His garments (Psalms 22:18). • He would be buried with the wealthy (Isaiah 53:9). Jesus Would Not Stay Buried but Rose from the Dead (Psalm 16:10) • God would resurrect Him from the grave (Psalms 16:10). Jesus was Silent before His Accusers (Isaiah 53:7) |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Acehart: 2:50pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Judybash93: The bolden is not coherent. Please, make me understand what you are saying. Secondly, when quoting someone, to avoid deviations, we should stick to what was said: He or she mentioned annihilation based on unbelief; my question was based on her object - unbelief. However, you have asked your question based God intents and purposes. God does whatever He likes; can a broken plate ask the housewife why she threw it into the garbage can? You listed a few bible texts to indicate that God is a mass murderer; It would have been nice of you to show us why the antagonists and destiny derailing agents were wiped off. It would have been a wonderful gesture to reveal why false prophets were killed by God. It would have been nice, also, to disclose to us why you God chose to cause a pandemic to kill 24,000 people who chose to be a pandemic among his people and would rather chose to Bleep prostitutes instead of moving forward in life after forty years of stagnation. It would be all the more nicer if you would disclose why God caused lions to kill people who would not love each other but defile themselves and break every sane law known to man: These are the scriptures you have to me to show that God is kind in limiting the years of man sworn to commit every abominable thing - isn’t that mercy? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Judybash93(m): 3:14pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Acehart: "God does whatever He likes; can a broken plate ask the housewife why she threw it into the garbage can?" Wow!!! How does this analogy even fit what you're saying? How can you demonstrate this? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Acehart: 3:26pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Judybash93: God is the housewife |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Kobojunkie: 6:24pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Anigreat: One word, Ignorance! Many so-called Christians remain ignorant of who Jesus Christ really is and what role He ought to occupy in their lives, beliefs and conducts. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Nobody: 6:44pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
truespeak: Such is not needed in the new dispensation. That is why Jesus is referred to as the lamb of God whose blood was shed on calvary. We need no bloodshed again. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by sonmvayina(m): 6:59pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
truespeak: Lol... Very funny.. Just like captain America was a real American soldier.. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by WizzyVine: 9:34pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
Judybash93: Don't be confused. As at that time, human beings have not spread. The human race began to spread only after the flood. Years after the flood, In Genesis 11, they built a tower to keep themselves together. God confused their language, and then they spread into various continents. According to Genesis 10:25 and 1 Chronicles 1:19, it was during the time of Peleg that "the earth was divided" – this is after the failure of Nimrod's Tower of Babel. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by WizzyVine: 9:37pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I belong to the body of Christ. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by WizzyVine: 9:40pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: He's correct. Abraham was a Prophet: Genesis 20:7. |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Kobojunkie: 10:11pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
WizzyVine:Oh ok. Do you listen to particular pastors either online or in person? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by sonmvayina(m): 10:31pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
WizzyVine:What did he prophesy about? |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by WizzyVine: 10:51pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I listen to so many pastors but I listen more to the Holy Spirit. As far as the scripture is concerned, I cannot be confused, for "He teaches me all things." |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by WizzyVine: 10:57pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
sonmvayina: God said he is, and I believe it. But wait, what is your definition of a prophet? A prophet is anyone who tells forth or foretells the Word of God by the help of the Holy Spirit. Did you read that scripture I quoted above, or you want to query the Holy Spirit who wrote the Scripture? Talking about Abraham, that verse reads "...for he is a prophet." |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by xproducer: 6:12am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Judybash93: ==== I thank the Lord GOD... call it grace. "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." - Galatians 2:20 Romans 10:12-14 |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 7:38am On Jul 16, 2020 |
WizzyVine: Thank You WizzyVine! |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 7:59am On Jul 16, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Is A True Prophet not Appointed by God Himself? Genesis 20:7 Is a Prophet not also one who hears from God? Genesis 15:13-15. Is a Prophet not also one who speaks with God? Genesis 17: 3-22 Is a Prophet not one who speaks and God Confirms his word? Genesis 20:17 But we know that you are a Hater of God and you really do not have any business here, so get out of this thread and go to your own people's thread! |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by sonmvayina(m): 11:42am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: You are really not well at all |
Re: Why Do Christians Reject Old Testament Laws But Stick To Tithing by Naijanascam: 8:35pm On Jan 07, 2022 |
Because it concerns money............ remove money from ministry many of them will fold up and look for other ways of getting their daily bread |
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