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|I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 10:23am On Jul 31, 2020|
Someone please help me
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|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by onward4life(m): 10:37am On Jul 31, 2020|
"The thoughts I have for you are thoughts of Happy Endings"
But e con be now e no sweet at all
Even God confirm am
But tinbubun and his human god with life span bruwarii
Believed they have confirm the change they promised
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by kingxsamz(m): 11:52am On Jul 31, 2020|
Father of Jesus, how can you regret when you already said all that you created was good?
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 1:40pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Its something I have not been able to decipher but im guessing that since I created humans in my image, I think I can also make mistakes and regret them. Sometimes I smoke weed as well, that's what humans do.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Major001(m): 4:20pm On Jul 31, 2020|
One of these days you'll come to realize the truth. It's only a matter of time. I only hope it won't be too late.
Accept Jesus as Saviour & Lord now.
No one can guarantee you the next five minutes.
The worst thing that can happen to an atheist/unbeliever is to die in this life and open his eyes in the afterlife... only to come face to face with Almighty God.
And then you'll discover the joke had been on you all along.
It's easy to say and write whatever you want now...but when death eventually comes for you...
In the end...light will triumph over darkness. No amount of atheism or unbelief or careless talk can change that fact.
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|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 7:39pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Maybe Jesus should accept me as his father
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by BackllGodNaija: 8:00pm On Jul 31, 2020|
So says someone who could only create a moniker...or wait oh...how am i even sure someone else didn't help you create this moniker because you sound as though you could only create imaginations in your head. Or did someone else (the devil) help you create the imaginations also?
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by 0temSapien: 9:34pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Jehovah has suddenly become a laughingstock in the mouths of my people. Who would have thought this could be possible in Nigeria 50 years ago except baba Fela?
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|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 10:26pm On Jul 31, 2020|
I can't do anything by myself, I had to even tell the holy spiritt to help me fuckkkk Mary to get conceive Jesus, my son.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by MajorLanister: 10:41pm On Jul 31, 2020|
This group is solely for the purpose of edifying our being. It's a burning desire in the heart of men to manifest the matters of the spirit.. The earth seeketh for a man...
Our Prayers are by 9pm (Fridays to Sunday), word by 12pm (Saturday),
Personal intimacy is encouraged at midnight.. Come and be a path of this movement.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 10:44pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Where 2 or 3 are gathered, im already there. No need inviting me, just gather
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by kingxsamz(m): 10:47pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Father of Jesus Christ, you need to take sometime off.
Go on a vacation or something.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 10:49pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Been doing that alot with Mary
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by kingxsamz(m): 10:50pm On Jul 31, 2020|
God exists, and I have %100 proof of his existence, because he's on Twitter.
If God doesn't exist, how come he's on Twitter?
I'm sure atheists can never answer this.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by kingxsamz(m): 10:51pm On Jul 31, 2020|
Hope she consented to getting her pregnant, cus I know you could be wicked at times?
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by BackllGodNaija: 3:37am On Aug 01, 2020|
kingxsamz:Yeah, it's must be very easy to create a moniker on a social media account and call it by God's name?
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Minsk24: 4:01am On Aug 01, 2020|
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Minsk24: 4:03am On Aug 01, 2020|
This is indeed the end time... God is now on Twitter ...... Baba God what do u have to say with the corruption in Nigeria despite our religious nature...
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by BackllGodNaija: 4:04am On Aug 01, 2020|
FatherOfJesus:I was right when I said you didn't even create your own imagination but the devil, because you're ignorant of the fact that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, so it's just like saying your spirit helped you do something lol!
Also you're ignorant of the fact that a virgin could become pregnant without being disvirgined, and that Mary was still a virgin after she got pregnant? Or maybe you think God needed to wait over two thousand years as the man he made from dust to be able to discover it was possible with a medical procedure like IVF?
Except you know this but you're still lying like your father the devil whose only creation is lies? Well you're free to continue in the footsteps of your father and his only creation.
Li_e father li_e child.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Minsk24: 4:05am On Aug 01, 2020|
OP i swear, moderate this thread wella coz its gna be fun... Watch how these delusional folks will attack you and curse you while the real frauds (pastors and government) keep ripping them off... I'll be here to act as your arch angel to fend them off
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Minsk24: 4:07am On Aug 01, 2020|
If only anything u said here made one iota of sense... We for read am..
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by BackllGodNaija: 4:13am On Aug 01, 2020|
Minsk24:Lolz! And you still know say e no make an iota of sense and went ahead to quote it? Maybe you should tell me how you came to that knowledge, if you didn't read it ehn? Though i don't expect the truth to make an iota of sense to a fool!
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Minsk24: 4:18am On Aug 01, 2020|
Seriously wetin u write no make sense... I just dy reason how anti-religious posts dy pain you for chest... I really wish i can meet people like you one on one... Una mouth to defend religion is only online... When u meet a woke person, u go mellow
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by joyandfaith: 6:12am On Aug 01, 2020|
In what sense can it be said that Jehovah “felt regrets” that he had made man? Here the Hebrew word translated “felt regrets” pertains to a change of attitude or intention. Jehovah is perfect and therefore did not make a mistake in creating man. However, he did have a change of mental attitude as regards the wicked pre-Flood generation. God turned from the attitude of the Creator of humans to that of a destroyer of them because of his displeasure with their wickedness. The fact that he preserved some humans shows that his regrets were confined to those who had become wicked.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 6:19am On Aug 01, 2020|
Exactly, I sent myself to fuckkkk Mary to conceive myself. The trinity.
you are a good bible student. Don't worry, I will bless you soon.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by joyandfaith: 6:20am On Aug 01, 2020|
People have mocking God for centuries. Gal 6:7. It is expected that more people will join satan in rebelling against God. it is part of sign of last day.
Some of signs of last days:
Love of God growing cold in most people.— Matthew 24:12 .
Noteworthy displays of religious hypocrisy.— 2 Timothy 3:5 .
Increase of crime.— Matthew 24:12 .
Ruining of the earth by mankind.— Revelation 11:18 .
Deterioration of people’s attitudes, as shown by many who are “unthankful, disloyal, . . . not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride.”— 2 Timothy 3:1-4 .
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 6:22am On Aug 01, 2020|
Yes, i had a mental problem after seeing what man turned out to be. Even as an omnipotent, i didnt see that coming. Men work in mysterious ways
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|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by joyandfaith: 6:32am On Aug 01, 2020|
Did God Know That Adam and Eve Would Sin?
MANY people ask this question in all sincerity. When the issue of God’s permission of wickedness is raised, the sin of the first human pair in the garden of Eden quickly comes into focus. The thought that ‘God knows everything’ may easily lead some to the conclusion that God must have known beforehand that Adam and Eve would disobey him.
If God truly had foreknown that this perfect couple would sin, what would this imply? Such a notion would attribute many negative traits to God. He would seem to be unloving, unjust, and insincere. Some might label it cruel to expose the first humans to something that was foreknown to end badly. God might seem responsible for—or at least an accomplice to—all the badness and suffering that followed throughout history. To some, our Creator would even appear foolish.
Does Jehovah God, as revealed in the Scriptures, match such a negative description? To answer that, let us examine what the Bible says about the creative works and the personality of Jehovah.
“It Was Very Good”
Regarding God’s creation, including the first humans on earth, the Genesis account says: “God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.” ( Genesis 1:31 ) Adam and Eve were perfectly made, ideally suited to their earthly environment. There was nothing deficient in their makeup. Created “very good,” they were certainly capable of the good conduct that was required of them. They were created “in God’s image.” (Genesis 1:27 ) So they had the capacity to demonstrate to some degree the godly qualities of wisdom, loyal love, justice, and goodness. Reflecting such qualities would help them to make decisions that would benefit them and bring pleasure to their heavenly Father.
Jehovah endowed these perfect, intelligent creatures with free will. So they were by no means preprogrammed to please God—like some sort of robot. Think about it. Which would mean more to you—a gift that is given mechanically or one that comes from the heart? The answer is obvious. Likewise, if Adam and Eve had freely chosen to obey God, their obedience would have meant all the more to him. The capacity to choose enabled the first human pair to obey Jehovah out of love.— Deuteronomy 30:19, 20 .
Righteous, Just, and Good
The Bible reveals Jehovah’s qualities to us. These qualities make it impossible for him to have anything to do with sin. Jehovah “is a lover of righteousness and justice,” says
Psalm 33:5 . Thus, James 1:13 notes: “With evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.” Out of fairness and consideration, God warned Adam: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” ( Genesis 2:16, 17 ) The first couple were given a choice between endless life and death. Would it not have been hypocritical for God to warn them against a specific sin while
already knowing the bad outcome? As “a lover of righteousness and justice,” Jehovah would not have offered a choice that in reality did not exist.
Jehovah is also abundant in goodness. (Psalm 31:19 ) Describing God’s goodness, Jesus said: “Who is the man among you whom his son asks for bread—he will not hand him a stone, will he? Or, perhaps, he will ask for a fish—he will not hand him a serpent, will he? Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him?” (Matthew 7:9-11 ) God gives “good things” to his creatures. The way humans were created and the Paradise home prepared for them testify to God’s goodness. Would such a good Sovereign be so cruel as to provide a beautiful home that he knew would be taken away? No. Our righteous and good Maker is not to blame for man’s rebellion.
The Scriptures also show that Jehovah is “wise alone.” ( Romans 16:27 ) God’s heavenly angels witnessed many manifestations of this boundless wisdom. They began “shouting in applause” when Jehovah brought forth his earthly creations. (Job 38:4-7 ) No doubt these intelligent spirit creatures followed events in the garden of Eden with great interest. Would it, then, make sense for a wise God, after creating an awe-inspiring universe and an array of marvelous earthly works, to bring forth under the eyes of his angelic sons two unique creatures who he knew were bound to fail? Clearly, to plan such a calamity would not stand to reason.
Still, someone may object, ‘But how could an all-wise God not have known?’ Granted, a facet of Jehovah’s great wisdom is his capability to know “from the beginning the finale.” ( Isaiah 46:9, 10 ) However, he does not have to use this capability, just as he does not always have to use his immense power to the full. Jehovah wisely uses his ability of foreknowledge selectively. He uses it when it makes sense to do so and fits the circumstances.
The ability to refrain from using foreknowledge can be illustrated with a feature of modern technology. Someone watching a prerecorded sports match has the option to watch the final minutes first in order to know the outcome. But he does not have to start that way. Who could criticize him if he chose to watch the entire match from the beginning? Similarly, the Creator evidently chose not to see how things would turn out. Rather, he chose to wait and, as events unfolded, see how his earthly children would conduct themselves.
As mentioned earlier, Jehovah in his wisdom did not create the first humans as automatons programmed for a fixed course. Instead, he lovingly endowed them with free will. By choosing the right course, they could manifest their love, gratitude, and obedience, thereby bringing added delight to themselves and to Jehovah as their heavenly Father.—
Proverbs 27:11; Isaiah 48:18 .
The Scriptures show that on many occasions God did not make use of his ability of foreknowledge. For example, when faithful Abraham went to the point of attempting to sacrifice his son, Jehovah could say: “Now I do know that you are God-fearing in that you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” ( Genesis 22:12 ) On the other hand, there were also occasions when the bad conduct of certain individuals caused God to “feel hurt.” Would he have felt such pain if he had long known what they would do?— Psalm 78:40, 41; 1 Kings 11:9, 10 .
Thus, it is only reasonable to conclude that the all-wise God did not exercise his ability of foreknowledge to know in advance that our first parents would sin. He was not so foolish as to embark on a bizarre venture, using his ability to know the outcome in advance and then staging a mere rerun of what he already knew.
“God Is Love”
God’s adversary, Satan, initiated the rebellion in Eden that resulted in negative consequences, including sin and death. Satan thus was “a manslayer.” He also proved to be “a liar and the father of the lie.” (John 8:44 ) Driven by bad motives himself, he strives to attribute bad motives to our loving Creator. It suits him well to shift the blame for man’s sin to Jehovah.
The quality of love is the strongest reason why Jehovah chose not to know in advance that Adam and Eve would sin. Love is God’s main attribute. “God is love,” says 1 John 4:8 . Love is positive, not negative. It looks for the good in others. Yes, motivated by love, Jehovah God wanted the best for the first human pair.
Even though God’s earthly children had the option of making an unwise choice, our loving God was not inclined to be pessimistic or to be suspicious of his perfect creatures. He had amply provided for them and had equipped them well. It was only appropriate that God should expect, not rebellion, but loving obedience in return. He knew that Adam and Eve had the ability to act loyally, as was later proved even by imperfect men, such as Abraham, Job, Daniel, and many others.
“With God all things are possible,” said Jesus. (Matthew 19:26 ) That is a comforting thought. Jehovah’s love, along with his other dominant attributes of justice, wisdom, and power, guarantees that in due time he can and will remove all the effects of sin and death.— Revelation 21:3-5 .
Clearly, Jehovah did not know beforehand that the first couple would sin. While he was pained by the disobedience of man and the ensuing suffering, God knew that this temporary situation would not prevent the fulfillment of his eternal purpose for the earth and humans upon it.
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by joyandfaith: 6:39am On Aug 01, 2020|
Does God know in advance everything that people will do?
The question then arises: Is his exercise of foreknowledge infinite, without limit? Does he foresee and foreknow all future actions of all his creatures, spirit and human? And does he foreordain such actions or even predestinate what shall be the final destiny of all his creatures, even doing so before they have come into existence?
Or, is God’s exercise of foreknowledge selective and discretionary, so that whatever he chooses to foresee and foreknow, he does, but what he does not choose to foresee or foreknow, he does not? And, instead of preceding their existence, does God’s determination of his creatures’ eternal destiny await his judgment of their course of life and of their proved attitude under test? The answers to these questions must necessarily come from the Scriptures themselves and the information they provide concerning God’s actions and dealings with his creatures, including what has been revealed through his Son, Christ Jesus.— 1Co 2:16 .
Predestinarian view. The view that God’s exercise of his foreknowledge is infinite and that he does foreordain the course and destiny of all individuals is known as predestinarianism. Its advocates reason that God’s divinity and perfection require that he be omniscient (all-knowing), not only respecting the past and present but also regarding the future. According to this concept, for him not to foreknow all matters in their minutest detail would evidence imperfection. Examples such as the case of Isaac’s twin sons, Esau and Jacob, are presented as evidence of God’s foreordaining creatures before their birth ( Ro 9:10-13 ); and texts such as Ephesians 1:4, 5 are cited as evidence that God foreknew and foreordained the future of all his creatures even before the start of creation.
To be correct, this view would, of course, have to harmonize with all the factors previously mentioned, including the Scriptural presentation of God’s qualities, standards, and purposes, as well as his righteous ways in dealing with his creatures. ( Re 15:3, 4 ) We may properly consider, then, the implications of such a predestinarian view.
This concept would mean that, prior to creating angels or earthling man, God exercised his powers of foreknowledge and foresaw and foreknew all that would result from such creation, including the rebellion of one of his spirit sons, the subsequent rebellion of the first human pair in Eden ( Ge 3:1-6; Joh 8:44 ), and all the bad consequences of such rebellion down to and beyond this present day. This would necessarily mean that all the wickedness that history has recorded (the crime and immorality, oppression and resultant suffering, lying and hypocrisy, false worship and idolatry) once existed, before creation’s beginning, only in the mind of God, in the form of his foreknowledge of the future in all of its minutest details.
If the Creator of mankind had indeed exercised his power to foreknow all that history has seen since man’s creation, then the full weight of all the wickedness thereafter resulting was deliberately set in motion by God when he spoke the words: “Let us make man.” (Ge 1:26 ) These facts bring into question the reasonableness and consistency of the predestinarian concept; particularly so, since the disciple James shows that disorder and other vile things do not originate from God’s heavenly presence but are “earthly, animal, demonic” in source.— Jas 3:14-18 .
Infinite exercise of foreknowledge? The argument that God’s not foreknowing all future events and circumstances in full detail would evidence imperfection on his part is, in reality, an arbitrary view of perfection. Perfection, correctly defined, does not demand such an absolute, all-embracing extension, inasmuch as the perfection of anything actually depends upon its measuring up completely to the standards of excellence set by one qualified to judge its merits. (See
PERFECTION .) Ultimately, God’s own will and good pleasure, not human opinions or concepts, are the deciding factors as to whether anything is perfect.— De 32:4; 2Sa 22:31; Isa 46:10 .
To illustrate this, God’s almightiness is undeniably perfect and is infinite in capacity. ( 1Ch 29:11, 12; Job 36:22; 37:23 ) Yet his perfection in strength does not require him to use his power to the full extent of his omnipotence in any or in all cases. Clearly he has not done so; if he had, not merely certain ancient cities and some nations would have been destroyed, but the earth and all in it would have been obliterated long ago by God’s executions of judgment, accompanied by mighty expressions of disapproval and wrath, as at the Flood and on other occasions. (Ge 6:5-8; 19:23-25, 29 ; compare Ex 9:13-16; Jer 30:23, 24 .) God’s exercise of his might is therefore not simply an unleashing of limitless power but is constantly governed by his purpose and, where merited, tempered by his mercy.— Ne 9:31; Ps 78:38, 39; Jer 30:11; La 3:22; Eze 20:17 .
Similarly, if, in certain respects, God chooses to exercise his infinite ability of foreknowledge in a selective way and to the degree that pleases him, then assuredly no human or angel can rightly say: “What are you doing?” ( Job 9:12; Isa 45:9; Da 4:35 ) It is therefore not a question of ability, what God
can foresee, foreknow, and foreordain, for “with God all things are possible.” ( Mt 19:26 ) The question is what God
sees fit to foresee, foreknow, and foreordain, for “everything that he delighted to do he has done.”— Ps 115:3 .
Selective exercise of foreknowledge. The alternative to predestinarianism, the selective or discretionary exercise of God’s powers of foreknowledge, would have to harmonize with God’s own righteous standards and be consistent with what he reveals of himself in his Word. In contrast with the theory of predestinarianism, a number of texts point to an examination by God of a situation then current and a decision made on the basis of such examination.
Thus, at Genesis 11:5-8 God is described as directing his attention earthward, surveying the situation at Babel, and, at that time, determining the action to be taken to break up the unrighteous project there. After wickedness developed at Sodom and Gomorrah, Jehovah advised Abraham of his decision to investigate (by means of his angels) to “see whether they act altogether according to the outcry over it that has come to me, and, if not, I can get to know it.” (Ge 18:20-22; 19:1 ) God spoke of ‘becoming acquainted with Abraham,’ and after Abraham went to the point of attempting to sacrifice Isaac, Jehovah said, “For now I do know that you are God-fearing in that you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.”— Ge 18:19; 22:11, 12 ; compare Ne 9:7, 8; Ga 4:9 .
Selective foreknowledge means that God could choose not to foreknow indiscriminately all the future acts of his creatures. This would mean that, rather than all history from creation onward being a mere rerun of what had already been foreseen and foreordained, God could with all sincerity set before the first human pair the prospect of everlasting life in an earth free from wickedness. His instructions to his first human son and daughter to act as his perfect and sinless agents in filling the earth with their offspring and making it a paradise, as well as exercising control over the animal creation, could thus be expressed as the grant of a truly loving privilege and as his genuine desire toward them—not merely as the giving of a commission that, on their part, was foredoomed to failure. God’s arranging for a test by means of “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad” and his creation of “the tree of life” in the garden of Eden also would
not be meaningless or cynical acts, made so by his foreknowing that the human pair would sin and never be able to eat of “the tree of life.”— Ge 1:28; 2:7-9, 15-17; 3:22-24 .
To offer something very desirable to another person on conditions known beforehand to be unreachable is recognized as both hypocritical and cruel. The prospect of everlasting life is presented in God’s Word as a goal for all persons, one possible to attain. After urging his listeners to ‘keep on asking and seeking’ good things from God, Jesus pointed out that a father does not give a stone or a serpent to his child that asks for bread or a fish. Showing his Father’s view of disappointing the legitimate hopes of a person, Jesus then said: “Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him?”— Mt 7:7-11
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by FatherOfJesus: 6:44am On Aug 01, 2020|
I'm God, you can't be preaching the word to me
|Re: I Regret Creating Humans. I'm So Troubled Now. by Nobody: 6:58am On Aug 01, 2020|
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