Kobojunkie:

Oh please . . . what ails ibo's in Nigeria, ails other people in the same country. As long as you keep sectioning yourselves from the populace, they also continue to ignore you and your concerns. I am not certain how you expect them to embrace you when it now seems more and more that you do not care what happens to them, and would instead prefer to focus on YOU YOU YOU. How can you section yourself off in your corner and then wonder why they do not bother voting your sons and daughters at the national level?

EzeUche_:

Everyone cares about their own region. [b]Why shouldn't the Ndigbo not care about our own region? [/b]As you already know, the Igbo can be found in every region of Nigeria. And we have a presence in every major city in Nigeria. However, when it comes to our homeland, many Igbos for about home. I do not understand why you continue to make erroneous statements, such as sectioning ourselves. It is about time we start sectioning ourselves, because being Pan-Nigerian is not helping to improve our homeland. Igbos are still paying for the defeat our nation, and our region and other parts of the now defunct Eastern region are used as vanquished territory.

EzeUche_:

Everyone cares about their own region. Why shouldn't the Ndigbo not care about our own region? As you already know, the Igbo can be found in every region of Nigeria. And we have a presence in every major city in Nigeria. However, when it comes to our homeland, many Igbos for about home. I do not understand why you continue to make erroneous statements, such as sectioning ourselves. It is about time we start sectioning ourselves, because being Pan-Nigerian is not helping to improve our homeland. Igbos are still paying for the defeat our nation, and our region and other parts of the now defunct Eastern region are used as vanquished territory.

Kobojunkie:

Because what we are trying to do, and what will favor Ibos in the long run, is getting rid of the regional bull-sh-it!. There is nothing erroneous about my statement on Ibos sectioning themselves. It not new and it has never helped any group, especially when you are dealing with DEMOCRACY -- where majority rules(are supposed to rule). Continuing this idea of sectioning will further alienate Ibos from the system and if that is what you want, then fine.

EzeUche_:

Like it or not, regional loyalties will continue to stay. This is not peculiar to Nigeria. Most African states that are multi-ethnic have this same focus. Even in parts of Europe, you have people who focus on regional development. There is nothing wrong with regional development. Every group strive to make their region thriving. That is the point of development, developing one's region. I would hope my Yoruba brothers in the South-West and my Hausa-Fulani brothers in the North would always want to improve their region as well. Give me one instance where Igbos have been sectioning themselves. When we live in other ethnic communities, we respect our host cultures, speak their language and follow their laws. We do not try to section ourselves from the indigenous population. We try to become part of the population. That is why I do not understand why you say Igbos section themselves. Igbos have yet to section themselves, and that is why we are in a political wilderness. We do not speak with one voice in some instances, and many of my people have neglected our homeland. I am sorry, but I think we Igbos need to section ourselves, because my region needs all the support that it can get.

naijaking1:

God bless you. We Igbos, simply don't section ourselves enough
My experience as a youth corper in Kano simply told me that there is nothing like one Nigeria, because first of all Hausa/Fulani people don't honestly believe in it.
It's only when you come down to Onitsha and Enugu that you have people fooling themselves into believing that there is one Nigeria.
Until we as Igbos understand the mistakes of Zik, Ironsi, that One Nigeria is a fallacy, the better we can survive, because it's the truth.

naijaking1:

Sectioning off Igbos is not about "not voting for Igbos at the federal level", it's about making very profound anti-democratic changes that negatively affect Igbos just because an army officer could
Who could have believed that the core-Igbo lands of the SE would be "allocated" 5 states while the desert NW would get 7? Now that's an example of the post war punishment I meant, and that is sectioning off Igbos.

Itupuru nwanyi Hausa onu bu igbu oge

EzeUche_:

Like it or not, regional loyalties will continue to stay. This is not peculiar to Nigeria. Most African states that are multi-ethnic have this same focus. Even in parts of Europe, you have people who focus on regional development. There is nothing wrong with regional development.

EzeUche_:

Every group strive to make their region thriving. That is the point of development, developing one's region. I would hope my Yoruba brothers in the South-West and my Hausa-Fulani brothers in the North would always want to improve their region as well. Give me one instance where Igbos have been sectioning themselves. When we live in other ethnic communities, we respect our host cultures, speak their language and follow their laws.
We do not try to section ourselves from the indigenous population. We try to become part of the population. That is why I do not understand why you say Igbos section themselves. Igbos have yet to section themselves, and that is why we are in a political wilderness. We do not speak with one voice in some instances, and many of my people have neglected our homeland. I am sorry, but I think we Igbos need to section ourselves, because my region needs all the support that it can get.

jason123:

I do not believe in any post war punishment in play. If it was in play, igbos would not be running the economy. We would not have igbo senate presidents. In fact, the igbo would have been absorbed by one of the other major groups but that has not and would NEVER happen.

Secondly, the land in the north coupled with the population supports the large number of states.

EzeUche_:

[color=#990000]Do you know you are talking about millions of Igbo? We are know as a majority ethnic group for a reason. What I bolded in your post would have never happened, because of our large numbers. Post-war punishment is not something only the Igbos have talked about. The Ijaws, Ogoni, Ibibio, Efik, Ekoi etc have all complained about this post-war punishment. Even from those who fought behalf of the Nigeria consider their region being punished. Why do you think there is a militancy in the Niger Delta? The seeds of this discord can find its roots in the Nigerian Civil War in the immediate aftermath. 

jason123:

I do not believe in any post war punishment in play. If it was in play, igbos would not be running the economy. We would not have igbo senate presidents. In fact, the igbo would have been absorbed by one of the other major groups but that has not and would NEVER happen.

Secondly, the land in the north coupled with the population supports the large number of states.

aloy/emeka:

[size=16pt]Can you people write in English please?. This is not culture section for God's sake. Where is the moderator?.[/size]

EzeUche_:

Do you know you are talking about millions of Igbo? We are know as a majority ethnic group for a reason. What I bolded in your post would have never happened, because of our large numbers. Post-war punishment is not something only the Igbos have talked about. The Ijaws, Ogoni, Ibibio, Efik, Ekoi etc have all complained about this post-war punishment. Even from those who fought behalf of the Nigeria consider their region being punished. Why do you think there is a militancy in the Niger Delta? The seeds of this discord can find its roots in the Nigerian Civil War in the immediate aftermath.

Secondly, no one believes the census, because many groups are have been under-counted for years. Even the United Nations do not believe the population numbers for Nigeria.

aloy/emeka:

Can you people write in English please?. This is not culture section for God's sake.  Where is the moderator?.

naijaking1:

Wondering why Igbos run the economy is like wondering why most NBA players are black. If you want the answer just stop by any roadside Igbo "businessman" and ask him or her much government help he's recieved so far.
The answer will be "nothing".
The Igbos have continued to survive in business despite getting only 20 pounds of their money back from Awolowo after the civil war.
Maybe you can respond with some informed and educated reply.

jason123:

You are not serious. First of all, awolowo was the finance minister of NIGERIA not of the yorubas so please do not blame yorubas again. Secondly, 20 pounds was a lot of money back then.
Thridly, I think NO GROUP OR PERSONS have every collected free money from the government, NO GROUP!
Lastly, Nigerians (every group that were against biafra) tried their best to help the igbo man. It was not by shear hard work as you make it seem. The yorubas and Hausas tried their best to bring the igbo man up but economically and politically.

Kobojunkie:

I am not certain MEND will agree with you that there actions are in retaliation to some post war punishment. You may need to go down to the Niger delta area to ask the people themselves of this one.

Also, it also seems the groups you mentioned are themselves trying to section themselves away from the Ibo group, and other groups, when it comes to politics as well. I don't believe these people share the same dreams you do.

EzeUche_:

Who knows what MEND is fighting for these days? Do you know, because I would like to know who they are fighting for? I know they are not fighting for the Niger Delta as a whole, since MEND is perceived as an Ijaw group. And even Ijaws are questioning MEND, because many MEND's leaders have been bought off by the Nigerian government.

What do you mean I need to go down to the Niger Delta? I am from Port Harcourt, the most important city in the entire Niger Delta region.

EzeUche_:

And you mentioned those groups trying to section themselves away from the Igbo, who wouldn't? The Igbos are blamed for every social ill that impacts this nation and it doesn't take a rocket scientist realize that the Igbos have been marginalized in politics. Even Igbo sub-groups had to distance themselves from the wider Igbo as well.

naijaking1:

Wondering why Igbos run the economy is like wondering why most NBA players are black. If you want the answer just stop by any roadside Igbo "businessman" and ask him or her much government help he's recieved so far.
The answer will be "nothing".
The Igbos have continued to survive in business despite getting only 20 pounds of their money back from Awolowo after the civil war.
Maybe you can respond with some informed and educated reply.

Kobojunkie:

Well, the one thing we know is MEND never claimed to have any connections with Ibos or their past struggles with the Civil war. In the beginning, they claimed to be fighting for their people’s right to their resources ( again, nothing to do with some post war punishment), and though they continue to, they have not come out to say anything of fighting for Ibos or anything of the sort.
I said to go down to ask the people themselves as they are the best to educate you on what they really fight for, instead of you believing you can link them simply because. I have never heard of such connection to MEND, NEVER!

Kobojunkie:

chineke me re m ebere ooo!!! I posted a retort and you asked me to further explain myself. I did, now you claim it is Circular?? ROFLMAO!!

Abagworo:

@Ezeuche I love your zeal for a unified Igbo with one leader and I so much desire that but nature made us scattered and dis-united.An extreme definition will not put Igbo as a single ethnic group.Our forefathers failed in not forming an all encompassing empire of Igbo speaking peoples but felt relaxed as different independent towns and kingdoms.Only a war in which a sub-group conquers others will unite the Igbos under one leadership.

aloy/emeka:

[size=16pt]Can you people write in English please?. This is not culture section for God's sake. Where is the moderator?.[/size]

matazzmagi:

Ka anyi tuo nu vote,ka anyi mara onye ga edu