tpiah!:

So this is the domino effect the west was so scared of during the cold war. Na wa o. Which arab country is next in line now. Will all this reach saudi arabia?

MzD@rkSkin:

lmao @ Sage aka Algerian. Pathetic.

'whites are as African as blacks!' Muahahahaha! The hilarity!
Anyway. . .back to topic @ Kilode?! I happen to have a bit of respect for
Gaddafi. to tell you the truth. I see him as an "Arab/African" Che Guevara (yes I said it!)

tpiah!:

^^i doubt it.

islam is a culture, not only a religion.


the fear should be of fundamentalists taking over.

You dont see an Algerian or a Morroccan claiming that because people in Norway are white and because he is white also, the accomplishment of Norweigians are his own?

You dont see people in Japan claim Chinese history as their own and you dont see Japanese people claiming Chinese history because they look similar


its mainly Afrocentric morons that go around doing insanely silly stuff like that

fstranger3:

^^^^

Another lie

Its best you stick with what you know. Let us Muslims decide if Islam is a religion or not.

Saudi King offers benefits to citizens as he returns from treatment



Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has announced increased benefits for his citizens, as he returned after months abroad getting medical treatment.

There will be extra funds for housing, studying abroad and social security, according to state television.

King Abdullah has been away from the country for three months, during which time mass protests have changed the political landscape of the Middle East.

There have been few demonstrations in Saudi Arabia.

The monarch's imminent return was welcomed by the Saudi media.

"The king is the only pillar of stability in the region now," read the editorial in the English-language daily Arab News. "He is the assurance of orderly progress, in the Arab world as a whole."

Saudi television reported that Bahrain's King Hamad was also flying into Riyadh on Wednesday.

The small state on Saudi Arabia's eastern border has seen more than a week of protests and the Bahraini authorities were criticised internationally for their initial crackdown on demonstrators.

MzD@rkSkin:

lmao @ Sage aka Algerian. Pathetic.

'whites are as African as blacks!' Muahahahaha! The hilarity!
Anyway. . .back to topic @ Kilode?! I happen to have a bit of respect for
Gaddafi. to tell you the truth. I see him as an "Arab/African" Che Guevara (yes I said it!)

ROSSIKE:

sage said:

Dude please get your nasty Arab imported self and disappear from our midst. If black Africans wish to take pride in the achievements of black Africans, it is THEIR prerogative and absolutely nothing to do with YOU.

The ancient sources ALL wrote that the original Berbers were black skinned. End of story. Take your manipulated ''scientific markers'' and stick 'em up your imported backside.

sage:

Lol at this joke of a guy . Which "Arab" is that?

Keep deluding yourself and engaging in endless stupidity

Your American based nonsensical delusions are not going to alter reality

White Berbers have been a permanent fixture of the African continent

but if telling yourself foolish lies from Americans makes you feel better, so be it

Just take your nonsense and shove it up your backside and stop polluting this place with outright lies

naijaking1:

The more you erroneuosly keep speaking about these "white berbers" the more illitrate you appear. And most unfortunately, the more the teacher in me wants to educate you.
First of all, do you know the meaning of the word Libya as first used by Homer, and in his Odysseus?
It meant [size=18pt]land of black people[/size].
Think about it, and while you're at it find out when the Illiad was written, and the value to World history.

naijaking1:

Too much of a good thing could become bad.

I'm sure Libyans rejoiced and danced in streets when Gadaffi came to power----understandably!

If he had relinquished power after a year or 4 years at best when the ovation was the loudest, he would have remained an eternal hero to his poeople and Africans in general.
No, once he tasted the sweet intoxicating smell of power, he remained addicted to the influence.

------42 years running

Algerian:


Finally, I don't know if I was somehow clumsy talking about how my people view darker skin people, but to show you how it's really difficult to tell I remember that I argued once with a friend (Algerian "white" too, who lived in a town 30km distant from mine) about  if there's actually any racism in Algeria against black people, and we totally disagreed on that! I think that the best answer that I should gave is that's unfortunately a non-issue for most people there even for the black Algerians and I'm pretty sure that you'll never find any Algerian saying that he will be glad to kill black people as it was said right here about Arabs/North Africans,

naijaking1:

^^^
Afrocentric thrash written by Homer before Christ
I have told you to go get some education.

savanaha:

Odd enough, I have a female Muslim friend who has traveled to various Arab countries; Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Morocco, Algeria just to name a few, and she has told me that the perceptions of blacks and dark skinned people are horrible. She even tried to start a campaign in one of these countries where she did her study abroad in order to try and educate people against their prejudice. However, she said her efforts were shut down.

I think though that experiencing the situation as a black person and perceiving it as a non-black are completely different.

Sun of God:

Gaddafi - Call me.

I'll shot dead Arabs for free.

The sooner Africa is rid of them the better.

Time to reclaim the lands they have stolen, pilaged and disrespected for thousands of years.

cap28:

Two weeks ago Gadaffi is said to have advised the dispossessed Palestinians to capitalise on the current revolts spreading through the middle east by massing peacefully on the borders of Israel until it (Israel) gives in to their demands.

Apparently this was his first speech since Hosni Mubarak was ousted. 

He also said:


"Fleets of boats should take Palestinians ,  and wait by the Palestinian shores until the problem is resolved," Gaddafi was shown saying on state television. "This is a time of popular revolutions."

"We need to create a problem for the world. This is not a declaration of war. This is a call for peace," he said in a speech given to mark the birthday of the Prophet Mohamed, a holy day in the Islamic calendar.

He also said: "All Arab states which have relations with Israel are cowardly regimes."

Has his call for justice for the Palestinians proved to be the catalyst that has set in motion the attempt to  topple his regime?

Did Israel fear that the Palestinians might want to capitalise on the current situation raging through the middle east and end up on the receiving end of it?

An article detailing his speech says:

[b]Gaddafi also issued a call to Muslim countries to join forces against Western powers. He said the world was divided into white, denoting the United States, Europe and their allies, and green for the Muslim world.

"The white colour has decided to get rid of the green colour," Gaddafi said. "These countries should be united against the white colour because all of these white countries are the enemies of Islam."

He said violent acts committed by Osama Bin Laden's al Qaeda network went against Islam because they killed innocent people. But he said there was a political explanation for the emergence of militant Islamists.

"Why did this movement emerge? Regardless of its behaviour, in my analysis this movement appeared in response to the American arrogance towards the Islamic nation and in response to its hegemony of the Islamic world," Gaddafi said.

"It was a response to ,  the submission of rulers in the Islamic world, the subservience of rulers in the Islamic world to this arrogance from Europe and the United States," he said.

Gaddafi has for decades challenged what he describes as Western imperialism. His oil exporting country spent years under international sanctions for seeking banned weapons and sponsoring militant groups.

These were lifted in 2004 when Gaddafi renounced his previous activities, though he still frequently deploys his colourful rhetoric against the West.[/b]


Is Gadaffi now paying the price for inciting the Palestinians to rise up against Israel as well as rallying Islamic countries to unite against their common enemy the US, britain and europe?

There are people on here ignorantly demonising him - many are blissfully unaware that he provided financial assistance to groups fighting for self-determination (such as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), the Irish Republican Army (IRA), and the African National Congress (ANC).

Mandela never forgot his generosity and helped to broker peace between him and the west following the Lockerbie allegations.

Algerian:

Sorry bro, but I still have a hard time to imagine that there is people who are willing to absolve everything for someone just because he "CLAIMS" being against "The big Satan"!
Let's take him for his words :
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[li]How can he be an anti-imperialist and be the mentor of the former Tunisia's president Ben Ali, while that same Ben Ali was the best ally of Israel, France and the USA in the region? [/li]
[li]How can he be an anti-imperialist and steal the wealth of his people?[/li]
[li]How can he be an anti-imperialist and befriend such a dispicable guy like Berlusconi?[/li]
[li]How can he talk about muslim union when he's insulting what it's the most holy for muslims (Prophets, sunna, etc.)? (By the way, Kadhafi was declared apostate by muslim scholars in various coutries)[/li]
[li]How can he claim being a revolutionary guide when he destroyed the tomb of the greatest hero of the lybian resistance against colonialism, Omar al Mokhtar?[/li]
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His people aren't that ignorant and know him better than I do or you do, so pls don't insult their intelligence!

Algerian:

I totally agree with your conclusion in bold. I gave my own perception of things and it may of course be not that correct, what I can assure at least is that in most of the North African countries, strangers don't usually mix with locals so the stereotypes may be very rooted but when that mixing occurs (by mixing I mean making friends and living amoung the people, not in ghettos or hotels) things tend to go pretty smoothly. Whatever the situation is in that matter, internal discriminations (between tribes, regions or ethnic/religious groups) are more serious problems for North Africans than those against foreigners since those foreigners are quite few in number anyways.

Talking about stereotypes, I remember one day when I was younger (around 1995), I was playing football in the street with friends in Algeria when a black guy passed by. Being curious, we went to him to chat (back then it was so unusual to see a foreigner) and we learnded that he was actually, Nigerian! We thought "Great! He must be doing very well in football" (Nigeria did great in the 1994 world cup, a year or so before), so we gave him the ball to see how good is he. Well, it was a big disappointement, he was just awful.