post=93400960:



Dumbos from West what do you call this process in vehicle making

Rebagging

Gotze1:
Rebagging go shock you

I beg free the guy, the beating don too much.

Gotze1:
Rebagging go shock you

What's this process

PVision2020:

I beg free the guy, the beating don too much.

Dombos from west what's this process called

gwafaeziokwu:



You are the complete illiterate here. Despite your acclaimed years of exposure, you keep making mockery of your education. You do not know the meaning of what you are using to mock Innoson. First go and read what rebadging means then come back and engage me.


For sane minds, Innoson as a start up car manufacturing company do not at the initial stage have the resources to invest in the highly capital intensive project of Research and development or modelling in the industry. He could not afford the trial and error which big companies like Ford, Mercedes, Volkswagen use in manufacturing new models of cars. Can innoson afford to recall 10000 cars at once and destroy it because of design error like we see often from big manufactures? He will fold up even before he starts. So as a smart business man, he went into partnership with a Chinese company whose models are trusted, in order to use their specification to manufacture something similar under his company name. By Innoson doing so, he achieved the following.

1. Reduced cost: No huge fund in R& D initially. Only small amount is spent on researching about smaller parts. He goes straight and manufactures without huge loss.

2. A model that is already a success: No trial and error in the market because people will love it.

3. Economics of scale. In a price sensitive market like Nigeria, he could at least compete with tokumbo cars.


Innoson builds his vehicle in Nnewi with a market trusted specification and a model which has 90% acceptance in the market. In essence he is legally leveraging on the more technically advanced R & D department of Baic or whoever he is in partnership with. Today he has established his own Innoson Academy and in the nearest future he will touch the sky.


This is quite different from importing CKD vehicles which was manufactured in China then reassemble them in Nigeria. There is enough video evidence on the internet to prove that actual manufacturing is taking place at Nnewi.

Long story short, he is still reassembling. I totally support that, why are your brothers on here mocking Nord for the same thing? 98% of IVM sale have been to the government, not even the ones blabbing here screaming amaka this amaka that are actively patronizing the brand, instead they are going to tour the factory and take pictures in their German and Japanese cars.

Chinese and trusted models in the same sentence, seriously? even you should know how funny that sounds. If not for our corrupt leaders that has sabotaged our education system, we wouldn't be cheering car reassembling in the 21st century and making it out to be a sign of tribal superiority. Person wey curse this country with mediocrity no nice oooo.

post=93401565:

Dombos from west what's this process called

A branch of a Chinese company (there's literarily a Chinese man in the first set of photos you posted). The whole product line is literarily listed as belonging to Chinese manufacturers.

post=93401565:
Dombos from west what's this process called

I dey feel your pain...you're in pain

Anamblalastson please drop your rickety Itel phone and go to bed, it's been a bad day...lol

Iegendhero:


Hahaha lol those Chinese are bad. They don't even know how to keep secret.

They just opened Innocent yansh outside for the world to see.

stop causing nuisance. Visit innoson plant. Which country pass Chinese in copying other people's products? Chinese grew and still growing by copying people product

gwafaeziokwu:



You are the complete illiterate here. Despite your acclaimed years of exposure, you keep making mockery of your education. You do not know the meaning of what you are using to mock Innoson. First go and read what rebadging means then come back and engage me.


For sane minds, Innoson as a start up car manufacturing company do not at the initial stage have the resources to invest in the highly capital intensive project of Research and development or modelling in the industry. He could not afford the trial and error which big companies like Ford, Mercedes, Volkswagen use in manufacturing new models of cars. Can innoson afford to recall 10000 cars at once and destroy it because of design error like we see often from big manufactures? He will fold up even before he starts. So as a smart business man, he went into partnership with a Chinese company whose models are trusted, in order to use their specification to manufacture something similar under his company name. By Innoson doing so, he achieved the following.

1. Reduced cost: No huge fund in R& D initially. Only small amount is spent on researching about smaller parts. He goes straight and manufactures without huge loss.

2. A model that is already a success: No trial and error in the market because people will love it.

3. Economics of scale. In a price sensitive market like Nigeria, he could at least compete with tokumbo cars.


Innoson builds his vehicle in Nnewi with a market trusted specification and a model which has 90% acceptance in the market. In essence he is legally leveraging on the more technically advanced R & D department of Baic or whoever he is in partnership with. Today he has established his own Innoson Academy and in the nearest future he will touch the sky.


This is quite different from importing CKD vehicles which was manufactured in China then reassemble them in Nigeria. There is enough video evidence on the internet to prove that actual manufacturing is taking place at Nnewi.

God bless you for this enlightening piece. The hateful and ignorant bigots from the waste are so jealous of Innoson. They always feel threatened by Igbo exploits which makes them to always try to measure up with Igbos but they often end up making a fool of themselves.

How can a sane person compare a showroom company like Nord to Innoson? Nord is just like Coscharis, Elizade or Chagoury but the only difference between them is that while these ones import full body specs, Nord on its own imports CKD that are reassembled on arrival. The fact that Nord has hastily bought another land when they are staying in an empty warehouse shows they have no intention of going into real manufacturing like Innoson but are probably a front established by a well connected politician who wants to corner some deals under the guise of locally sourced cars.

Nord in its present form can't add any significant value to Nigeria whatsoever. However, in contrast, Innoson will boost Nigeria's drive towards industrialization. Innoson will create massive jobs directly and indirectly. Innoson will earn forex for Nigeria while saving capital flight. Innoson will help the military. Innoson will promote the image of Nigeria and put it on the map of car manufacturing countries.

Through its academy, Innoson is developing local technology that will help it to survive and become a global player like Toyota and the rest.

Innoson is one of the best things to happen to us in recent times and no amount of hate, jealousy or bigotry by these waste people will diminish his exploits.

Yobabad:
Members of YMM (Yoruba Muslims Miscreants) are on their way to derail this thread

why would they?
didn't dey have Nord?... Igbo Amaka joor

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See why Innoson is different, he may copy others vehicle design but fact is, he build the body of his vehicles and manufacture some parts

You do know there is a difference between welding rails or frames of cars and actually designing a car right? Do you think all the cars are imported in full body conditions from China? Riddle me this, where do you think the engine comes from genius? The infotainment system? ohhh that's right, you know nothing about engineering and manufacturing.

I would be very curious to know what parts exactly does he manufacture locally, do your research before you make up baseless statements as facts. Down to the exhaust pipes every single thing is imported, that's the deal as he is a subsidiary of the Chinese company, they want to increase actual production in their country and have it exported as it's an avenue to grow their own G.D.P. (This is how the world works). And yes the same is the case for Nord, so don't around here with that tribal b.s.

Gotze1:
Rebagging

even chinese are number 1 in copying other people's products. Every product in the world has imitation version thanks to china yet they are growing

lucasalves:


You do know there is a difference between welding rails or frames of cars and actually designing a car right? Do you think all the cars are imported in full body conditions from China? Riddle me this, where do you think the engine comes from genius? The infotainment system? ohhh that's right, you know nothing about engineering and manufacturing.

I would be very curious to know what parts exactly does he manufacture locally, do your research before you make up baseless statements as facts. Down to the exhaust pipes every single thing is imported, that's the deal as he is a subsidiary of the Chinese company, they want to increase actual production in their country and have it exported as it's an avenue to grow their own G.D.P. (This is how the world works). And yes the same is the case for Nord, so don't around here with that tribal b.s.

Visit his plastic plant in enugu. That where most parts come from.

lucasalves:

[s]
Long story short, he is still reassembling. I totally support that, why are your brothers on here mocking Nord for the same thing? 98% of IVM sale have been to the government, not even the ones blabbing here screaming amaka this amaka that are actively patronizing the brand, instead they are going to tour the factory and take pictures in their German and Japanese cars.

Chinese and trusted models in the same sentence, seriously? even you should know how funny that sounds. If not for our corrupt leaders that has sabotaged our education system, we wouldn't be cheering car reassembling in the 21st century and making it out to be a sign of tribal superiority. Person wey curse this country with mediocrity no nice oooo.[/s]

Nord is just importing CKD vehicles and couples them here. There is nothing special in what he is doing.

I wonder how a sane person will want to compare a company that exists only in name and an empty warehouse with a vehicle manufacturing company like Innoson.

Jokers, we will watch out and see what happens in the coming years.

Scout60:


Visit his plastic plant in enugu. That where most parts come from.

Yeah cos a car is made of plastic (p.s he makes plastic chairs not as parts to his cars). Get a load of this guy. I thought you should mention General Tyres and Tubes Company Ltd”at Emene in Enugu, in collaboration with his Chinese partners. (this is sourced).

It's nothing but a front for a Chinese company with a Nigerian name plastered over it to garner local support.

Gotze1:
What is stopping you from visiting Nord factory too. Or the factory is hiding because of you.

Lol, where is the Nord factory located ? Or you mean an empty warehouse with pallets and five guys sitting on the imported CKD vehicles

innoson disgraced here once again

proeast:


God bless you for this enlightening piece. The hateful and ignorant bigots from the waste are so jealous of Innoson. They always feel threatened by Igbo exploits which makes them to always try to measure up with Igbos but they often end up making a fool of themselves.

How can a sane person compare a showroom company like Nord to Innoson? Nord is just like Coscharis, Elizade or Chagoury but the only difference between them is that while these ones import full body specs, Nord on its own imports CKD that are reassembled on arrival. The fact that Nord has hastily bought another land when they are staying in an empty warehouse shows they have no intention of going into real manufacturing like Innoson but are probably a front established by a well connected politician who wants to corner some deals under the guise of locally sourced cars.

Nord in its present form can't add any significant value to Nigeria whatsoever. However, in contrast, Innoson will boost Nigeria's drive towards industrialization. Innoson will create massive jobs directly and indirectly. Innoson will earn forex for Nigeria while saving capital flight. Innoson will help the military. Innoson will promote the image of Nigeria and put it on the map of car manufacturing countries.

Through its academy, Innoson is developing local technology that will help it to survive and become a global player like Toyota and the rest.

Innoson is one of the best things to happen to us in recent times and no amount of hate, jealousy or bigotry by these waste people will diminish his exploits.

Innoson is a scam
Visit this link and enlightening yourself
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAIC_BJ80

proeast:


Nord is just importing CKD vehicles and couples them here. There is nothing special in what he is doing.

I wonder how a sane person will want to compare a company that exists only in name and an empty was with a manufacturing company.

Pretty not worth the effort arguing with the likes of you. There is literarily the head office in lekki, and an expansion planned for Epe to do exactly what IVM is doing ( which is reassembling Chinese cars exactly to the specs of the original manufacturer). Doesn't seem like anything anyone should be blabbing about as they both basically Chinese companies with a Nigerian as their front man to penetrate the local market. But hey, it takes someone with a working brain to see that.

igboarenice:

Innoson is a scam
Visit this link and enlightening yourself
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAIC_BJ80

A company that Nigerian military is now relying on is a scam?

A company that put Nigeria on the global map of car manufacturing countries is a scam?

A company that is exporting locally manufactured cars while earning forex for Nigeria is a scam?

But look at a supposed educated person like you giving me a Wikipedia link, A WIKIPEDIA PAGE ANYONE CAN MANIPULATE??

Getaway from my mention with your useless Wikipedia link!!

proeast:


Nord is just importing CKD vehicles and couples them here. There is nothing special in what he is doing.

I wonder how a sane person will want to compare a company that exists only in name and an empty warehouse with a vehicle manufacturing company like Innoson.

Jokers, we will watch out and see what happens in the coming years.

As for what will happen in the coming years, it will end in tears for both companies, tell me anyone you know lusting after buying innoson or Nord? The average Nigerian will buy KIA 10 times over before giving these companies a look.

How many times a year do you think the government buy cars? unless there's a more general willingness of Nigerians to purchase these cars, this one gamble too big for the Chinese.

lucasalves:


Pretty not worth the effort arguing with the likes of you. There is literarily the head office in lekki, and an expansion planned for Epe to do exactly what IVM is doing ( which is reassembling Chinese cars exactly to the specs of the original manufacturer). Doesn't seem like anything anyone should be blabbing about as they both basically Chinese companies with a Nigerian as their front man to penetrate the local market. But hey, it takes someone with a working brain to see that.

So, it is at the Lekki showroom that this ones were coupled?

A company that is yet to open fully, or even establish its first plant is now already talking about expansion?

Dude this guys are just into full time importation, let's not decieve ourselves.

proeast:


So, it is at the Lekki showroom that this ones were coupled?

A company that is yet to open fully, or even establish its first plant is now already talking about expansion?

Dude this guys are just into full time importation, let's not decieve ourselves.

The guy is right. This is what Theguardian said about Nord plant in Epe few days ago.

With a mission to roll out a wholy Nigerian model of cars, for Nigerians and assembled by Nigerians, the current Nord assembly plant is located on a 2,100 square meters of land space in Sangotedo in Lagos, while and another one recently acquired and occupying 3,400 square meters of land at Epe is currently undergoing construction for the assembly complex in readiness to meet the growing automotive market and increasing customer demand.

https://businessday.ng/transport/article/nord-assembly-plant-opens-to-meet-nigerias-automotive-demand/amp/

proeast:


So, it is at the Lekki showroom that this ones were coupled?

A company that is yet to open fully, or even establish its first plant is now already talking about expansion?

Dude this guys are just into full time importation, let's not decieve ourselves.

Exactly, it's all import. The show room in Lekki is to attract some needed attention to the product and then proceed to the plant in Epe to do exactly what Innoson is doing. Basically, Chinese companies rolling the dice and testing the waters of the country's automobile market.

To see some people cheer these products as Nigerian made is just shameful and shows you how low we have fallen when cars banned in many parts of the world due to safety concerns are now seen as our national pride. Next we are reciting the Chinese national anthem and some fools in this country won't know any better as they will be too entrenched bragging about how superior their tribe is over the other.

lucasalves:


As for what will happen in the coming years, it will end in tears for both companies, tell me anyone you know lusting after buying innoson or Nord? The average Nigerian will buy KIA 10 times over before giving these companies a look.

How many times a year do you think the government buy cars? unless there's a more general willingness of Nigerians to purchase these cars, this one gamble too big for the Chinese.

I agree with you it would end in premium tears for Nord, considering they're in this as a front to import CKD and market. However, as for Innoson, I see the company going places even in the near future.

1. They're already grounded with factories in place and also operates in a city that has clusters of auto parts manufacturing companies.

2. Innoson is not only getting massive patronage by Eastern states governments as well as some others in Nigeria, but foriegn countries are already placing orders while lots of reputable brands like Shell are ordering too. Likewise, it may interest you to know that Innoson vehicles are already a common sight in the East, particularly here in Owerri.

3. Innoson is already expanding and because they're struggling to meet demand and they now have an academy that will ensure that their technological advancement is localized.

4. Innoson are already operating in highly technical and specialized fields like aircraft repairs and the likes, which means their expertise is top notch.

proeast:


[s]A company that Nigerian military is now relying on is a scam?

A company that put Nigeria on the global map of car manufacturing countries is a scam?

A company that is exporting locally manufactured cars while earning forex for Nigeria is a scam?

But look at a supposed educated person like you giving me a Wikipedia link, A WIKIPEDIA PAGE ANYONE CAN MANIPULATE??

Getaway from my mention with your useless Wikipedia link!!
[/s]

Stop saying nonsense. Enough proof is already on this thread to show Innoson is just rebadging Chinese cars.

ALL his car brand are copied even down to the rims.

proeast:


I agree with you it would end in premium tears for Nord, considering they're in this as a front to import CKD and market. However, as for Innoson, I see the company going places even in the near future.

1. They're already grounded with factories in place and also operates in a city that has clusters of auto parts manufacturing companies.

2. Innoson is not only getting massive patronage by Eastern states governments as well as some others in Nigeria, but foriegn countries are already placing orders while lots of reputable brands like Shell are ordering too. Likewise, it may interest you to know that Innoson vehicles are already a common sight in the East, particularly here in Owerri.

3. Innoson is already expanding and because they're struggling to meet demand and they now have an academy that will ensure that their technological advancement is localized.

4. Innoson are already operating in highly technical and specialized fields like aircraft repairs and the likes, which means their expertise is top notch.

Do you know the Nord guy worked with Mercedes and founded Jetvan ? These guys are bringing innovation to the game, just watch them in the coming year.

—Ajayi Joshua Oluwatobi MBA FICA
Chairman/CEO

Oluwatobi is a widely creative and astute entrepreneur, he is the founder of Nord Automobiles Limited, one of the first Nigerian automobile brands and Africa’s premier automobile corporation.

He started his career at Mercedes-Benz Nigeria, growing very fast to become the head of division (vans) and later co-founded Jetvan, an authorised dealer of Mercedes-Benz.

Oluwatobi is among the most influential people in the Nigerian Auto Industry, winning so many local and international awards and recognitions for his contributions to the automotive industry in Nigeria and Africa. He was listed by Forbes as one of the most promising young entrepreneurs in Africa for 2018.

He is an alumni of prestigious Lagos Business School (Pan Atlantic University) where he bagged his MBA, he has a certificate from the IESE Business School Spain after concluding his Pan African EMBA Module. He holds a B.Agric in Soil Science and Farm Mechanization, Olabisi Onabanjo University, Ogun state.

He is a Fellow of the Institute of Credit Administrators.

trutharena:


The guy is right. This is what Theguardian said about Nord plant in Epe few days ago.

With a mission to roll out a wholy Nigerian model of cars, for Nigerians and assembled by Nigerians, the current Nord assembly plant is located on a 2,100 square meters of land space in Sangotedo in Lagos, while and another one recently acquired and occupying 3,400 square meters of land at Epe is currently undergoing construction for the assembly complex in readiness to meet the growing automotive market and increasing customer demand.

https://businessday.ng/transport/article/nord-assembly-plant-opens-to-meet-nigerias-automotive-demand/amp/

All na wash.
If these guys have an already existing plant in equipment in place, would they be showing us an empty warehouse with pallets and five guys sitting on CKD parts?

proeast:

Another member of Nord team. These guys profile showed they are not here to play.

—Shola Adeniyi
Director

Shola is a first-class graduate of Mechanical Engineering, University College London. He is an expert in financial analysis, specializing in the fixed income securities market. He has worked in several financial institutions, most notably are Barclays Capital London, in the credit trading department as an European High Yield credit trader and at BGC Partners London as Sub Saharan Africa Fixed Income and Currency market dealer. He is currently the CEO of Krosk Parners Limited, an inter-dealer fixed income broker in Nigeria.

—Samson Esemuede, CFA
Director

Samson is a first-class graduate of Biochemistry, University College London. He is an experienced investment banker with speciality in Equities Sales and Trading. He has risen through the ranks in his career – as a Vice President covering Emerging Markets Equity desk at Deutsche Bank, London, and was responsible for Eastern European, Middle East and Africa, Emerging Markets Equity at Citi Bank, London. He is now currently the CEO of Zrosk Investment Managers, Nigeria.

—Shola Bola-Audu
Director

Shola Bola-Audu has over a decade experience in the financial service sector, she has successfully managed and grown portfolio of reputable High Net-worth Individuals with turnover in tens of billons of Naira. Shola is an expert in Portfolio Management/ diversification and Fixed Income trading. She is currently the Head, Institutional Sales at Cordros Securities.

Shola is an alumni (MBA) of prestigious Lagos Business School (Pan Atlantic University) where she bagged her MBA, she has a certificate from the IESE Business School Spain after concluding her Pan African EMBA Module. She is an Alumni of the New York Institute of Finance. She holds a BSc. in Computer Science with Mathematics option, Kogi State University, and is an Associate of the Nigerian Institute of Management (AMIN).

proeast:


All na wash.
If these guys have an already existing plant in equipment in place, would they be showing us an empty warehouse with pallets and five guys sitting on CKD parts?

Stop saying nonsense.

The main problem of you guys is that you only believe what you see.

If I tell you Glo is the second richest man in Nigeria, you will still tell me to go and snap his factory to validate.

Most frontline media carried the businessday news, so I should ignore them and instead believe a ignorant Ibo like you?

trutharena:


Do you know the Nord guy worked with Mercedes and founded Jetvan ? These guys are bringing innovation to the game, just watch them in the coming year.

Ajayi Joshua Oluwatobi MBA FICA
Chairman/CEO

Oluwatobi is a widely creative and astute entrepreneur, he is the founder of Nord Automobiles Limited, one of the first Nigerian automobile brands and Africa’s premier automobile corporation.

He started his career at Mercedes-Benz Nigeria, growing very fast to become the head of division (vans) and later co-founded Jetvan, an authorised dealer of Mercedes-Benz.

Oluwatobi is among the most influential people in the Nigerian Auto Industry, winning so many local and international awards and recognitions for his contributions to the automotive industry in Nigeria and Africa. He was listed by Forbes as one of the most promising young entrepreneurs in Africa for 2018.

He is an alumni of prestigious Lagos Business School (Pan Atlantic University) where he bagged his MBA, he has a certificate from the IESE Business School Spain after concluding his Pan African EMBA Module. He holds a B.Agric in Soil Science and Farm Mechanization, Olabisi Onabanjo University, Ogun state.

He is a Fellow of the Institute of Credit Administrators.

I'm sorry, but there is nothing impressive here.
Mercedes never had a plant in Nigeria. How does working in a Mercedes showroom give him the requisite expertise to run a car manufacturing firm?

I was even thinking you meant he actually worked in Mercedes car production facility somewhere.

Lolz, funny people