Image123:
The pastor made a gross mistake by giving this fellow a platform. More people now know and are more curious about him. This same guy says things about ministers like Adeboye and Kumuyi but you will never hear them dignify him with a response. It's like a man in suit on the way to Aso Rock but decided to wait and fight physically with a stubborn goat. Nobody will blame the goat, they will say that the man is insane.

MuttleyLaff:
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"When a mad man walks naked,
it is his kinsmen who feel shame, not himself"
- Chinua Achebe RIP (1988). “A Man of the People”, page 118

When man become mad, they quite lose their dignity

donnie:


So you're saying Ibiyeome made Freeze popular? Don't make me laugh abeg. So are those men gods whom no one should ever criticize? I even felt ashamed for the pastor, especially when he spoke about broadcasters and somalians. Now we've seen he called a man a bastard whose father is well known. Supporting NONSENSE as usual.

genkins:
Daddyfreeze took out time to respond to pastor David ibiyeomie after his irresponsible outburst claiming he will send daddyfreeze to the cemetery for insulting bishop David Oyedepo his so called spiritual father.

Watch below

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donnie:
So you're saying Ibiyeome made Freeze popular? Don't make me laugh abeg. So are those men gods whom no one should ever criticize? I even felt ashamed for the pastor, especially when he spoke about broadcasters and somalians. Now we've seen he called a man a bastard whose father is well known. Supporting NONSENSE as usual.

Ken4Christ:
The Church needs to stay at the middle of the road to avoid doctrinal accidents. Messages should be property balanced. It is true that the wife should submit to her husband but the husband is also told to love his wife. So, if Bishop Oyedepo teaches total submission from the wife to her husband for marriage to be successful, he should also emphasize that the husband should unconditionally love his wife and take care of her.

Women are not slaves and they should be treated with respect. The outburst by Pastor Ibiyeome is uncalled for. He has the right to air is opinion. And just the way Fani-Kayode apologized to the journalist he insulted, I suggest that Pastor Ibiyeome should apologize to Daddy Freeze.

I don't agree with Daddy Freeze in most of the ways he interprets the Scripture but he is entitled to his opinion. I hope to have the opportunity to correct him in love very soon.

Ken4Christ:
The Church needs to stay at the middle of the road to avoid doctrinal accidents.

Ken4Christ:
Messages should be property balanced.

Ken4Christ:
It is true that the wife should submit to her husband but the husband is also told to love his wife. So, if Bishop Oyedepo teaches total submission from the wife to her husband for marriage to be successful, he should also emphasize that the husband should unconditionally love his wife and take care of her.

Ken4Christ:
Women are not slaves and they should be treated with respect. The outburst by Pastor Ibiyeome is uncalled for. He has the right to air is opinion. And just the way Fani-Kayode apologized to the journalist he insulted, I suggest that Pastor Ibiyeome should apologize to Daddy Freeze.

Ken4Christ:
I don't agree with Daddy Freeze in most of the ways he interprets the Scripture but he is entitled to his opinion. I hope to have the opportunity to correct him in love very soon.

petra1:
As much as I don't agree with The outburst against Daddy Freeze. But we should remember that Daddy Freeze himself had said worse curses on ministers he didn't agree with. Those days sha before his relationship with Apostle Suleman reset his head in some areas. And he later realized he could be wrong on some issue and . He became more objective

Goshen360:
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Young man,

You're not making sense. Why? Daddy freeze doesn't attack personal and family lives of those ministers, he attacks or deals with their doctrines with scriptures and sound doctrines.

Are we supposed to all agree on doctrines? No! But we are supposed to disagree respectfully

What David Ibiyeomie said was nothing but personal attack on the person, family, race and said nothing to do with sound doctrines.

petra1:


He used to raine curses on ministers dear



Your daddy freez was not disagreeing respectfully he used to curse " God punish you " thunder fire you" and more vile words



I agree . But either doctrine or no doctrine . Vile word are unbecoming

Goshen360:
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Young man,

You're not making sense. Why? Daddy freeze doesn't attack personal and family lives of those ministers, he attacks or deals with their doctrines with scriptures and sound doctrines.

Are we supposed to all agree on doctrines? No! But we are supposed to disagree respectfully. What David Ibiyeomie said was nothing but personal attack on the person, family, race and said nothing to do with sound doctrines.

MuttleyLaff:
"¹²In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets.
¹³Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. ¹⁴But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.
¹⁵Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
¹⁶By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
¹⁷Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
¹⁸A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
¹⁹Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
²⁰So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.
²¹Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
²²Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
²³Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!
(i.e. Then I will tell them publicly, 'I've never known you. Get away from me, you evil people.')"
- Matthew 7:12-23

It is easier to stay in the middle road because you have forgotten that there is not supposed to be a middle road. Ekklesia, do not stay in any middle road whatsoever. Ekklesia goes through the narrow gate and down the narrow road and thats the gospel truth way, of how to avoid doctrinal accidents.

Message would only be balanced, if every believer is an adherent of and stickler to 2 Timothy 2:15

"²¹Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ (i.e. husband & wife two way traffic)
²² Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.
²³For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior.
²⁴Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
²⁵Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her
²⁶to sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
²⁷and to present her to Himself as a glorious church, without stain or wrinkle or any such blemish, but holy and blameless.
²⁸In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
²⁹Indeed, no one ever hated his own body, but he nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church.
³⁰For we are members of His body.
³¹“For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”
³²This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church.
³³Nevertheless, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband."
- Ephesians 5:21-33

Doing proof-texting and contextomy with Ephesians 5:21-33 doesnt do anyone any favours. Submission is bi-directional. The husband is the head, that is true, but the wife, by the way, is the neck. It will be in everyone's interest for the head and neck to submit to each other

Whatever one appreciates the value of, whatever one loves and cherishes, one doesnt abuse, misuse, disuse, confuse and/or not take tender, love and care of. As a true born from on high child of God/son of God/daughter of God/man of God/woman of God believer, it goes without needing to say or debate the obvious

The outburst by the hireling David Ibiyeomie, is him just revealing more of his true colours. I will suggest that David Ibiyeomie, keep whatever this insincere apology to Freeze, might be, to himself, besides that will be the day, if David Ibiyeomie, will ever apologise to Freeze

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We obviously won't see the scriptures with the same understanding in very major ways because we each understand scripture to the level of our submission to the Spirit of Truth. We understand scripture to how much we fill out to snuggly fit into the gift of the given out Holy Spirit.

Ken4Christ, we understand scripture according to the altitude of our individual and/or respective vantage points and/or the level/angle/direction/line of our perspective. Those two pictures I've pasted above, are worth more than twenty thousand words

Do all believers stand tall and all be at the same and equal height, hmm, Ken4Christ?

Look at the fingers on your hand, are they all equal in length, hmm? Well, we all have different level of understanding, just as like fingers have different amount of length sizes, but when the fingers bend closely together, they miraculous appear looking like having the same amount of length size

We all arent going to view everything about theology in the same way, as each other does and enough to agree with each other about certain theological things Ken4Christ, but hey what unites and bonds us all together, is greater than whatever our differences are. Also there is a way, we get to be equal in length and that is when the fingers on the hands come together and bend.

What we agree on, what unites us (i.e. the Freeze, the Ken4Christ et cetera of this world) is far more stronger and bigger than what we may disagree and differ on. What unites the fingers is greater than what is division among them

What unites all believers, is far greater than that which divides us. We have different graces and different level of grace. We have the same Holy Spirit, but fit into same amount and equal Holy Spirit, size wise, differently.

You want to have the opportunity to correct Freeze in love very soon. Abi, hmm? Here is my piece of freely given friendly and brotherly advice, why not try first removing the plank of wood in your eyes, before trying to blow out the hair in Freeze's eye

geoworldedu:
Like pastor like Jehovah. Little things they get angry and rain fire and brimstone.

cc: Otematum

OtemAtum:
As long as Jehovah and Allah remain caged in his spiritual cage, many things that will let the whole world ridicule Christianity and Islam will keep happening day after day.
Yesterday it's about killing for blasphemy, today it's about bastardising a legitimate son of the land. Who knows maybe tomorrow it will be able killing atheists and freethinkers?

wolesmile:

Wehdon

We already know this is another moniker of Otematum, aka Otemunando, aka Otemsapien and other aliases...

wolesmile:

Wehdon






We already know this is another moniker of Otematum, aka Otemunando, aka Otemsapien and other aliases...

petra1:


Ashiri has tu.

OtemAtum:
Tu ko, tumininu ni

petra1:


Sorry i should have used past tense.

Ashiri has tuud..