proeast:


Some of you talk like children sometimes.
Why is it so difficult for you understand something that is so clear?

The initial standoff leading to the war was between the East and North. Mind you that at same period Awolowo did not believe in Nigeria, he actually believed and wanted Oduduwa republic.

Now the question is, what made him to discard the idea of Oduduwa and accept Nigeria?

The North was already Igbophobic and through Ahmadu Bello we're wary of the more enterprising Igbos they feared would dominate them.

The idea was that policies that will ensure Igbos never rise again to be in the position to dominate them would be supported.

Now, with such general mindset, do you think the North will object to Awolowo's idea of Indignization policy? Considering it would achieve two things i.e. perpetually keeping Igbos down and out while giving Awolowo and his people their own share of the spoils of war, since the North has achieved their aim and taken their own share?

Now the question is, what made him to discard the idea of Oduduwa and accept Nigeria?

So if the reality of Oduduwa republic is not visible, is it not logically wise to discard it than go to any senseless war?

Now, with such general mindset, do you think the North will object to Awolowo's idea of Indignization policy?

Which of you guys version do you want us to believe?

That Yorubas have been the one asslicking Hausa/Fulani's ass or

Hausa/Fulani's ass licking Yoruba's ass?

We need the clarity before we could proceed further..

proeast:


The funny thing is that most of those companies they cunningly took over are now either rundown or now has a good percentage of Igbos in its board.

Swear

solmusdesigns:


Lol

Education is important sha

Something this our boy boy traders lack

Policy is not same thing as a Decree or a Law


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The boy boy traders are presently buying up your ancestral lands and are returning large investment to further boost their region. Whire their brothers who decided the education route are giving you nightmares in all the national and international examination.


Meanwhile back to topic. Awolowo just like Soludo during the recapitalisation time was the brain behind the indigenisation decree.

Same way Ngozi Okonjo Iweala champion all the economic reforms carried out during Obasanjo and jonathan tenure . Till today you guys vilify her for her roles.

Living in denial is the worst kind of cowardice. Man up abeg

helinues:
Mtcheeew..

Na copy and paste from Upper Iweka writer...

Summarize the damn epistle and let's argue about it

He is better than your village oshogbom writer osaze007.

Rugaria:


The oil majors then , especially shell provided the funds for that war totally. You must have read some of them here gloating that awolowo prosecuted the war in biafra without borrowing a dime as if he was an oracle. The fact is that Shell and co financed the war after a confused Borro helped adekunle to take over Bonny oil facilities. Even the embargo against biafra was done with British facilities. Tht was how they were able to be shooting down red Cross planes. Up till today Nigeria is till paying Britain/foreign oil companies for sponsoring that war. Noticed buhari heading to London after every election nomination? . Tht is how Nigeria became the only major oil exporting country that depends almost entirely on foreign majors for oil exploration.

Even as we speak, there are no meters in major offshore oil facilities. The oil majors suck as much as they want , then will inform Nigeria how much they exported! This has been the case since eons! Even the justice Irekefe panel that probed buhari/Obasanjo in the early 80 about the missing NNPC billions and gave them a soft landing, lamented about this. Yet, nothing was done because to an average politician from the north and west of Nigeria, there is a well grounded understanding that without those oil majors, they would have never had the resources to finance that war.

Nigeria's disastrous fall began in 1972. The so-called fathers of Nigeria were ethnocentrists who didn't have the country at heart except whatever they could milk from it.

In the real sense, it is even Igbos that actually believed in Nigeria and even still do. While Igbos are committed to it, the others are only after what they could milk from it not minding the effects on the country at large.

The rot in Nigeria today is a manifestation of years and decades of economic strangulation by the North and West.

proeast:


Nigeria's disastrous fall began in 1972. The so-called fathers of Nigeria were ethnocentrists who didn't have the country at heart except whatever they could milk from it.

In the real sense, it is even Igbos that actually believed in Nigeria and even still do. While Igbos are committed to it, the others are only after what they could milk from it not minding the effects on the country at large.

The rot in Nigeria today is a manifestation of years and decades of economic strangulation by the North and West.

A Yoruba minister during the Obasanjo regime(I think it was the dead former governor whose casket was involved in a plane crash) publicly scolded Bola ige for trying to over do it..... According to him, they were called to "come and chop"! That more or less explains everything about the mentality of the people biulding a common country with you.

Rugaria:


A Yoruba minister during the Obasanjo regime(I think it was the dead former governor whose casket was involved in a plane crash) publicly scolded Bola ige for trying to over do it..... According to him, they were called to "come and chop"! That more or less explains everything about the mentality of the people biulding a common country with you.

Nigerians are not even understanding what is currently going on in the country.
There is clear evidence to show that this country is approaching its end unless something decisive and radically different is done.

Firstly, the NE has collapsed, and the NW is following the same part, and afterwards would be NC.

In the South, 90% of our top intellectuals have either ran away from Nigeria or are working towards leaving.

Nigeria is now being run on Chinese loans, and there is no end to the borrowing spree.

All the refineries are not working but billions of naira are being budgeted and spent on them.

Power supply is still hovers around a measly 5000 megawatts for 200 million people.

We are already the world's poverty capital i.e. we are at the rock bottom, yet same poverty is now growing at an alarming rate never seen before.

Anyone who is not afraid about the scary future of this country is living in a fool's paradise.

solmusdesigns:



Inferiority complex and chestbeating

Which land? Omo onile land without C of O hahahahaa how funny boy boy wants to badly leave his erosion enclave


Page one to page 3 no Ibo has been able to show us any laws Awolowo signed just talk talk and usual thread derailing

Thread one to 3 and no Yoruba man has been able to prove that indiginisation decree was not the brain child and evil baby of Awolowo .

Nor prove that that the minister who design and formulated a policy should be the one that will sign it into law.

Just the usual raising of gorilla dusts any time they are presented with facts.

Dumb fellows

"I believe that the question that the benign ignorant should be asking going forward is what did Yoruba do with all these assets and corporations that they stole. How did the country fair under the Yoruba management of the Nigerian economy? How did the Yoruba managed economy relate to today’s economic malaise? Hope they can make the connections......"


Great question. I have asked them similar questions in the past.

proeast:


Nigerians are not even understanding what is currently going on in the country.
There is clear evidence to show that this country is approaching its end unless something decisive and radically different is done.

Firstly, the NE has collapsed, and the NW is following the same part, and afterwards would be NC.

In the South, 90% of our top intellectuals have either ran away from Nigeria or are working towards leaving.

Nigeria is now being run on Chinese loans, and there is no end to the borrowing spree.

All the refineries are not working but billions of naira are being budgeted and spent on them.

Power supply is still hovers around a measly 5000 megawatts for 200 million people.

We are already the world's poverty capital i.e. we are at the rock bottom, yet same poverty is now growing at an alarming rate never seen before.

Anyone who is not afraid about the scary future of this country is living in a fool's paradise.

Events leading up to 2023 will ultimately instigate an avalanche of events that will shake this epileptic amalgam to it's foundation.. Until the emergence of buhari, the fulani did a great job of masking their treu imperial intentions in Nigeria. But you know buhari na... He acts more like a brute with power but always cower without power. He believes quite seriously in the sarduanas goal of dominating the whole Nigeria and if you watch his politics and policies closely, you will notice he is determined on this path. He is most probably going to nominate another northerner to take over from him and maybe change osibande with an igbo lackey. A subtle but clumsy attempt at "devide and rule" politics..That won't fly anymore. .,not even with the Yorubas.

The tension, the acrimony, the anger that will follow, will surely hunt down this country. . . In any event, the country is gone. They over-bloated the civil service with tens of thousands of unqualified personnels and ghost workers from their villages. Now they are spending the whole budget including borrowed funds to pay unproductive workers because they turned the whole civil service into a welfare scheme.... They won't sack the unneeded workers because they have used every improved minimum wage regime as a means to share accruing oil receipts to their ethnic henchmen brimming in different ministries. Even creating fake agencies just to share 'salaries'. No successful country emerged like this..

gwafaeziokwu:


Nna m. Fire on.

These guys stamped their wasteful culture on the economy of this nation and it is yet to recover. Stolen things are difficult to manage because you did not sweat for it.

At the bolded, my Dad always says that. Stolen things are difficult to manage. look at how crumbled all the stolen igbo properties have become in portharcourt.

Rugaria:


Thanks a bunch for taking out time to educate a lot of the indomie generation about this... This is why I I get upset when some clever people try to lump everybody together as being responsible for nigerias messy situation. No. [b]A particular group of people are. Since 1966, the Yorubas and their comrades the Hausa fulani have been responsible for driving the course of governance in this country.., [/b]only recruiting willing political mercenary from other groups while doing away with anyone with contrary views.. They ran everything down including the NNPC! That's right, NNPC, Nigerias oil Monopoly declared bankrupt at a stage.. Very vain group of people who are ready to loot everything in sight just to buy houses in London and bloclk streets for endless strings owambe show..

God bless you. I have been saying similar things about how we got to where we are today but their mods keeps fighting for them by deleting the topics or banning me.

The swines from EASTernbull have deserted their moronic thread. Spits on flat heads

proeast:


It was the worst heist to be pulled off in history. Unfortunately, it is the present 200 million frustrated Nigerians that are currently paying the price.

Ask them why Nigerians excel when they go abroad only to fail woefully at home.

Ask them why everything, I mean every single area of our economy was rundown ruthlessly and nothing, absolutely nothing is working!

Ask them why we have ended up as the world's poverty capital despite the enormous resources at our disposal!

Simple, all these chaos were a direct result of the criminal Indignization decree of 1972. That was the point the foundation of Nigeria's economy was destroyed and everything nosedived!!

Period!!!.

Rugaria:
As at the 90s, managers of such sate corporations as NITEL, NEPA and all the banks in the east and most floor workers were all Yorubas.. The northerners were lacking behind in terms of producing graduates while the east were effectively blokced from participating in running the economy of their Land. Things only changed when babangida moved the capital to Abuja after orkars coup. Most Yoruba workers preferred to stay back in Lagos providing the northerners an enviable opportunity to flood officialdom with their kind. Their war with Abacha helped to accelerate this process. Obasanjo came in and tried to reverse that with spurious privitasation and consolidation policies that favoured them again. Thats how African petroleum, NICON insurance and co transmuted into Yoruba companies.... Inshort both the Yorubas and fulanis are not in anyway interested in biulding any country.. They are simply in a rush to loot as much as possible before their iniqiuteous activities break up Nigeria..

You know your history very well. I am very impressed. Please continue educating the indomie generation that have no idea who plundered Nigeria and turned into what it is today.

They won't move this educative thread to the front page so that ignorant Nigerians will understand how they ended up in such misery they found themselves simply because it exposed how they destroyed but if it were to be a thread that puts Igbos in bad light, you will see it on front page.

Historical and ancient bitterness based on lies.

The indiginenization decree is nothing to do with Awo who tendered his resignation letter in 1970 immediately after the war and left Gowon's government early in 1971. Shagari was finance minister in 1972

These folk always like playing victim


In 1979 they had already produced Vice President 9 years after the war.

Why always playing victim

At independence, while Zik was nationalistic, Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello on their own part were ethnocentrists who didn't believe in Nigeria.
Igbos have continued to help build Nigeria on their sweat and blood yet it's these same people that don't even want this country to progress that turn around and accuse Igbos of not believing in Nigeria.

Dishonest people everywhere!!

aribisala0:
Historical and ancient bitterness based on lies.

The indiginenization decree is nothing to do with Awo who tendered his resignation letter in 1970 immediately after the war and left Gowon's government early in 1971. Shagari was finance minister in 1972

These folk always like playing victim


In 1979 they had already produced Vice President 9 years after the war.

Why always playing victim

What is this one talking about?!

wwwihy:
Here we go again?
Yoruba this
Yoruba that

Is it inferiority complex?

It's Looteriority Complex. That's why some of them want to be PRESIDENT in 2023 before Restructuring so they can loot the Remains of Miyetti Allah FULANI HERDSMEN.

wwwihy:
Here we go again?
Yoruba this
Yoruba that

Is it inferiority complex?

It's Looteriority Complex. "Onyechi, Ole Barawo Buruku.

orisa37:




It's Looteriority Complex. That's why some of them want to be PRESIDENT in 2023 before Restructuring so they can loot the Remains of Miyetti Allah FULANI HERDSMEN.

Loot, i loot democracy..

helinues:


And who are/were those claiming Awo signed the decree blockade when he wasn't the military leader?

That guy is daft.

Yeasteners are so deluded.
Leave Yoruba alone una no gree. What's the point of this writeup?

I enjoyed the debate on this thread. Both sides maintained decorum. I love history and love to hear from both sides; as long as there is no rancour and insults.