greatbuc:
Pure murder. The crime scene is very unrelated to suicide. The killers did a very poor job.
Pointers:
He was probably killed before his body was lifted to the noose.. See the folded part on his trouser indicating he was lifted.
No stool or block to have giving him the height he needed to hang himself. How did he climb up to the noose?? If you say the hole in the walls then he should have been facing backwards and his foot should also be dusty and bruised.
He is scared of dying from covid by wearing a mask but took his life by hanging? Haba. Poor job by the criminals.. Let them check how much was left for him to complete the instalment money.. Some people fit kill person so the bike will be theirs even when the instalment money is almost completed.

You might be correct, the murder was committed by more than one person. They did a very poor job.

This man was murdered and staged to look like suicide

The title of this thread is misleading. Makes it look like double tragedy. ( father & son )

kristo123:
This man was murdered and staged to look like suicide

How?

mamato:


You might be correct, the murder was committed by more than one person. They did a very poor job.

How's that? Did u take time to query what d gentleman said before absolutely agreeing with him?

DemonInvoker:
Some thing fishy here...If he wanted to peacefully hang himself I'm still asking Why would he have preferred an uncompleted building?!

Is it a completed building that would have been more peaceful for an act of suicide?

Face mask alone disqualified suicide.

With that handkerchief on his nose he will not be able to climb the wall.

Someone that want to commit suicide will not have time to cover his nose, if the handkerchief is dangling on his neck that's another story.

greatbuc:
Pure murder. The crime scene is very unrelated to suicide. The killers did a very poor job.
Pointers:
He was probably killed before his body was lifted to the noose.. See the folded part on his trouser indicating he was lifted.
No stool or block to have giving him the height he needed to hang himself. How did he climb up to the noose?? If you say the hole in the walls then he should have been facing backwards and his foot should also be dusty and bruised.
He is scared of dying from covid by wearing a mask but took his life by hanging? Haba. Poor job by the criminals.. Let them check how much was left for him to complete the instalment money.. Some people fit kill person so the bike will be theirs even when the instalment money is almost completed.

Nice one!

Mpanyi:


You are wrong. When there is a murder there is always first natural suspects like business partners and all. So to throw investigation the wrong way the suspects would make it look like a suicide. I am not saying this was what happened in this case or what didn't happen. But that guy's dissecting of the whole thing makes sense.

What d guy "dissected" makes sense because u didn't take time to look at what he said with a different set of lenses. Much of what he said are mere speculation which can be proved absolutely wrong

Inkling:
Face mask alone disqualified suicide.

With that handkerchief on his nose he will not be able to climb the wall.

Someone that want to commit suicide will not have time to cover his nose, if the handkerchief is dangling on his neck that's another story.

How does handkerchief on a persons nose prevent him or her from climbing a wall? Y would someone who wants to commit suicide not have time to cover his nose? Is there a handbook for suicide that says so?

Mrscarter:


I think U could be right.
Howd he get up there n his trouser leg does look like he could possibly have been lifted.
If he did kill himself I wonder why he was wearing the mask tho?

But Nigerians are dead and afraid of death.

MartinCorridon:


You guys watch too much CSI and start forming detectives.

Do you know what staging a scene would cost you? Precious time that can make a killer caught.

Nigerian Police doesn't have the forensic means to effectively investigate crimes. No DNA database, no dusting for fingerprints. Why would a killer then waste time to fake a murder ?

The only type of murderer who can be motivated to stage a scene is a spouse or family member..and it would be in the house to throw off suspicion.

That guy has points. You dont.

luminouz:


That guy has points. You dont.

Your opinion doesn't matter to me. Don't get any ideas.

heykims:
390k for okada instalmental payment, that's wickedness.

some got it for 450k

MartinCorridon:


Your opinion doesn't matter to me. Don't get any ideas.

K

luminouz:


That guy has points. You dont.

Are those points foolproof?

luminouz:

K

Better.

MartinCorridon:


Better.

K

lexy2014:


Is it a completed building that would have been more peaceful for an act of suicide?

I'm speaking for myself not you.
Look Bush.

lexy2014:


Are those points foolproof?

95% foolproof.

Not only did he intelligent make cogent observations, there is actually a premise for that murder.

No one who fears COVID-19 will hang himself.

luminouz:


95% foolproof.

Not only did he intelligent make cogent observations, there is actually a premise for that murder.

No one who fears COVID-19 will hang himself.

They aren't 95% foolproof. If u take ur time to look thru d things he said, u will see that u can debunk d assertions he made

DemonInvoker:

I'm speaking for myself not you.
Look Bush.

I didn't ask u who u are speaking for. I asked Is it a completed building that would have been more peaceful for an act of suicide?

lexy2014:


How does removing shirt or not pulling shirt indicate suicide?

What has protection from corona got to do with suicide?

Your last question is somehow bro...

The nosemask shows he CARES for his life, which contradicts the decision to kill himself.

luminouz:

Your last question is somehow bro...

The nosemask shows he CARES for his life, which contradicts the decision to kill himself.

Would a suicide bomber like to be killed by a security agent?

lexy2014:

Suicide bombers don't like to be killed by security agents. Does that mean they care for their lives?

Mute point.

Suicide bombers know they will die. They dont care about living.


Gimme logical points bro

luminouz:


Mute point.

Suicide bombers know they will die. They dont care about living.


Gimme logical points bro

U didn't answer d question. Suicide bombers don't like to be killed by security agents. Does that mean they care for their lives? Or put in another way:

Would a suicide bomber like to be killed by a security agent?

lexy2014:


They aren't 95% foolproof. If u take ur time to look thru d things he said, u will see that u can debunk d assertions he made

I took my time hommie.


He made cogent points.

You dont agree with him doesn't mean I will agree with you.

greatbuc:
Pure murder. The crime scene is very unrelated to suicide. The killers did a very poor job.
Pointers:
He was probably killed before his body was lifted to the noose.. See the folded part on his trouser indicating he was lifted.
No stool or block to have giving him the height he needed to hang himself. How did he climb up to the noose?? If you say the hole in the walls then he should have been facing backwards and his foot should also be dusty and bruised.
He is scared of dying from covid by wearing a mask but took his life by hanging? Haba. Poor job by the criminals.. Let them check how much was left for him to complete the instalment money.. Some people fit kill person so the bike will be theirs even when the instalment money is almost completed.

I respect your analysis. Regardless of what truly transpired.

luminouz:

I took my time hommie.


He made cogent points.

You dont agree with him doesn't mean I will agree with you.

I didn't say u should agree with me. I only said if u had taken ur time to look thru his points with a second pair of lenses, u would have detected a lot of loopholes in d "cogent points" that he made

lexy2014:


Would a suicide bomber like to be killed by a security agent?

Mute point.

Suicide bombers dont VALUE life but AFTERLIFE. It doesn't matter who killed them or where they die, so long they hit their target.

Its like you are asking if a professional barber would like to die by cutlass

greatbuc:
Pure murder. The crime scene is very unrelated to suicide. The killers did a very poor job.
Pointers:
He was probably killed before his body was lifted to the noose.. See the folded part on his trouser indicating he was lifted.
No stool or block to have giving him the height he needed to hang himself. How did he climb up to the noose?? If you say the hole in the walls then he should have been facing backwards and his foot should also be dusty and bruised.
He is scared of dying from covid by wearing a mask but took his life by hanging? Haba. Poor job by the criminals.. Let them check how much was left for him to complete the instalment money.. Some people fit kill person so the bike will be theirs even when the instalment money is almost completed.

Did u notice the clenched fists sir
Murder wuldnt require such "gesture" of "hand fisting" suppression.

luminouz:


Mute point.

Suicide bombers dont VALUE life but AFTERLIFE. It doesn't matter who killed them or where they die, so long they hit their target.

Its like you are asking if a professional barber would like to die by cutlass

Ur barber analogy doesn't fit into d discussion. We are talking of suicide not barbing. D question I asked requires a simple yes or no:

Would a suicide bomber like to be killed by a security agent?