| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Nobody: 10:28am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Lukgaf:
[s]Freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, NOT freedom TO insult!
Each faith community feels a deep-rooted emotional attachment to the symbols and personalities it reveres. Muslims are no different.
The value system of Islam is underpinned by respect and reverence – reverence for the Almighty, for all the Messengers of the Almighty – including the Prophets Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all), the angels, the holy scriptures, the holy cities, religious symbols and places of worship, and respect for elders, teachers, leaders, religious scholars, parents, the elderly etc.
Depicting images of the Prophet (peace be upon him) is strictly forbidden in Islam. The rationale for the prohibition, inter alia, of depicting the Prophet (peace be upon him) is that he was too sublime to be truly portrayed. Furthermore, attempts at portraying him could result in his image being distorted. There are therefore no records of any authentic image or portrait of him anywhere in the world, from any period of Islamic history, which is a significant point of note.
Any attempt to depict the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in illustration is an attempt to depict the sacrosanct, which is not allowed. The nature of cartoons is to satirise and trivialise. This is clearly not acceptable in the case of a personality who is held in the highest esteem by almost 2 billion people globally.
Irrespective of what the motive is for the repeated publishing and displaying of these blasphemous cartoons – whether for cheap publicity, political gains, deliberate provocation, or due to sheer ignorance – it is grossly offensive and highly insensitive and will always be rejected by all people of morality with the contempt it deserves!
Muslims accept the principle of constructive freedom of expression, but not the freedom to wantonly insult, which is sometimes deviously and deceptively masqueraded as freedom of expression. True freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, not freedom TO insult! Freedom to insult has ultimately resulted in hatred, bigotry and even destruction. Humour that is disrespectful, insensitive and offensive, is not humour, but is in fact hubris.
But when Muslims object, the stock response is that they do not appreciate freedom of expression. The media and others view this as an infringement of the right of freedom of speech. However, one aspect that is often overlooked is that no right is absolute; there are inherent limitations. Every right is counterbalanced against other rights. Every right has to be exercised with utmost responsibility.
The blatant hypocrisy of certain leaders in the application of freedom of speech is glaringly visible for the world to see! Whilst they harp on the promotion of freedom of speech, they are intolerant of any criticism of themselves or things that are dear to them. So much for freedom of speech!
Muslim leaders and masses would be justifiably outraged and enraged by this act of profanity. This could even precipitate protests and boycotts. The worldwide anger and outpouring of objections has made it amply clear that Muslims will never accept disrespect to the Prophet (peace be upon him) or whatever else is deemed sacred to them. Despite this open provocation, Muslims are urged to follow the noble example of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon Him) in the kind, tolerant and forgiving manner he dealt with his enemies and continued to invite them to the Path of Guidance.
12 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1442 / 28 October 2020
Darul Ihsan Humanitarian Centre
https://darulihsan.com/index.php/news/item/9002-freedom-of-expression-is-freedom-from-insult-not-freedom-to-insult[/s] Rubbish post. Fvck Islam and all Muslims. Had to swore an oath that I'm a Muslim before I could comment on this thread,smh. 45 Likes 7 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Kentuforchrist(m): 10:28am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Jesus is Lord both now and forever
I came to tell u muslims 41 Likes 5 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:29am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
I hope it won't be out of place if someone in the name of freedom of expression draws a cartoon of your dad sleeping with your mum (showing their privates) on a national daily.
And I hope you will pat such person on the back for expressing their undeniable freedom?!
Idiot!
I will love the pics with all my heart. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Friend22(m): 10:29am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Draught:
What I don't support is when that "Nice attack", if you see the comments of Moslems around the world, they were like its Macron fault.. that per say he did the knife assault..
There's more I want to say and seeing those with the most liked comments here are similar to my views.. You don't have anything to say. Just shut your mouth and get off this page! |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by psyco: 10:30am On Oct 30, 2020 |
teebaxy:
IS ISLAM A CULT RELIGION? I HAVE TO ATTEST THAT IM A MUSLIM B4 I CAN COMMENT HERE...BUT WE ARE ALL FREE TO COMMENT ON A CHRISTIAN THREAD ANYHOW Na their way 15 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:30am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Anybody that kills because of their God show their God is weak. 49 Likes 8 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by hotwax: 10:30am On Oct 30, 2020 |
are you the prophet they are insulting?
why can't mohamed come to defend himself?
if u like say Jesus is something somthing...My name is not Jesus...he says he is eternal and alive...so let him defend himself. Its not my responsibility to fight for Jesus 27 Likes 6 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Friend22(m): 10:31am On Oct 30, 2020 |
donprinyo:
I will love the pics with all my heart. hypocrite! We know your type. It means you never had any parent or you were a born throw way or you are simply sick in the head 2 Likes |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Obinoscopy(m): 10:31am On Oct 30, 2020 |
I agree with what you posted OP. You rightly condemned the insults. However it's very wrong of you not to condemn the killings...it shows you tacitly endorse it which is very sad. 49 Likes 10 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Draught: 10:32am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
You don't have anything to say.
Just shut your mouth and get off this page! Lol as I no wan come leave the page nko, u go push me? 8 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Friend22(m): 10:32am On Oct 30, 2020 |
hotwax:
are you the prophet they are insulting?
why can't mohamed come to defend himself?
Is stupidity a natural gift to you or you simply inherited it?! 1 Like |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:32am On Oct 30, 2020 |
teebaxy:
IS ISLAM A CULT RELIGION? I HAVE TO ATTEST THAT IM A MUSLIM B4 I CAN COMMENT HERE...BUT WE ARE ALL FREE TO COMMENT ON A CHRISTIAN THREAD ANYHOW Of course they are cultists with very low esteem. Small thing they become angry and start killing. 34 Likes 7 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:33am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Obinoscopy:
I agree with what you posted OP. You rightly condemned the insults. However it's very wrong of you not to condemn the killings...it shows you tacitly endorse it which is very sad. They can never condemn it cos it's what de are instructed to do. 35 Likes 5 Shares |
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| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Friend22(m): 10:34am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Draught:
Lol as I no wan come leave the page nko, u go push me? Suit yourself. But mind you,dont insult us here. I don't see Muslims going to Christian pages on Sunday to insult or cast slurs at them yet they feel comfortable coming here to dish it out. 5 Likes |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:34am On Oct 30, 2020 |
This is exactly why every country should treat dem the way Israel treats them. 27 Likes 6 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by nathdim: 10:35am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
I hope it won't be out of place if someone in the name of freedom of expression draws a cartoon of your dad sleeping with your mum (showing their privates) on a national daily.
And I hope you will pat such person on the back for expressing their undeniable freedom?!
Idiot!
so you now compare an Arabic prophet who has nothing to do with your forebearers with your daddy 26 Likes 6 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by hotwax: 10:35am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
Suit yourself.
But mind you,dont insult us here.
I don't see Muslims going to Christian pages on Sunday to insult or cast slurs at them yet they feel comfortable coming here to dish it out. and the people been killed are christians 5 Likes |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Kelsjb: 10:36am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Lukgaf:
Freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, NOT freedom TO insult!
Each faith community feels a deep-rooted emotional attachment to the symbols and personalities it reveres. Muslims are no different.
The value system of Islam is underpinned by respect and reverence – reverence for the Almighty, for all the Messengers of the Almighty – including the Prophets Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all), the angels, the holy scriptures, the holy cities, religious symbols and places of worship, and respect for elders, teachers, leaders, religious scholars, parents, the elderly etc.
Depicting images of the Prophet (peace be upon him) is strictly forbidden in Islam. The rationale for the prohibition, inter alia, of depicting the Prophet (peace be upon him) is that he was too sublime to be truly portrayed. Furthermore, attempts at portraying him could result in his image being distorted. There are therefore no records of any authentic image or portrait of him anywhere in the world, from any period of Islamic history, which is a significant point of note.
Any attempt to depict the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in illustration is an attempt to depict the sacrosanct, which is not allowed. The nature of cartoons is to satirise and trivialise. This is clearly not acceptable in the case of a personality who is held in the highest esteem by almost 2 billion people globally.
Irrespective of what the motive is for the repeated publishing and displaying of these blasphemous cartoons – whether for cheap publicity, political gains, deliberate provocation, or due to sheer ignorance – it is grossly offensive and highly insensitive and will always be rejected by all people of morality with the contempt it deserves!
Muslims accept the principle of constructive freedom of expression, but not the freedom to wantonly insult, which is sometimes deviously and deceptively masqueraded as freedom of expression. True freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, not freedom TO insult! Freedom to insult has ultimately resulted in hatred, bigotry and even destruction. Humour that is disrespectful, insensitive and offensive, is not humour, but is in fact hubris.
But when Muslims object, the stock response is that they do not appreciate freedom of expression. The media and others view this as an infringement of the right of freedom of speech. However, one aspect that is often overlooked is that no right is absolute; there are inherent limitations. Every right is counterbalanced against other rights. Every right has to be exercised with utmost responsibility.
The blatant hypocrisy of certain leaders in the application of freedom of speech is glaringly visible for the world to see! Whilst they harp on the promotion of freedom of speech, they are intolerant of any criticism of themselves or things that are dear to them. So much for freedom of speech!
Muslim leaders and masses would be justifiably outraged and enraged by this act of profanity. This could even precipitate protests and boycotts. The worldwide anger and outpouring of objections has made it amply clear that Muslims will never accept disrespect to the Prophet (peace be upon him) or whatever else is deemed sacred to them. Despite this open provocation, Muslims are urged to follow the noble example of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon Him) in the kind, tolerant and forgiving manner he dealt with his enemies and continued to invite them to the Path of Guidance.
12 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1442 / 28 October 2020
Darul Ihsan Humanitarian Centre
https://darulihsan.com/index.php/news/item/9002-freedom-of-expression-is-freedom-from-insult-not-freedom-to-insult But you don’t see each faith when their prophets or messiahs are insulted result to killing people. You people should stop the violence and condemn it 14 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Ifeann(f): 10:36am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Is lslam is a joke. Muslims are Killing people in France because of a carton of an obvious fake prophet who had mental issues. It's ridiculous Lukgaf:
Freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, NOT freedom TO insult!
Each faith community feels a deep-rooted emotional attachment to the symbols and personalities it reveres. Muslims are no different.
The value system of Islam is underpinned by respect and reverence – reverence for the Almighty, for all the Messengers of the Almighty – including the Prophets Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all), the angels, the holy scriptures, the holy cities, religious symbols and places of worship, and respect for elders, teachers, leaders, religious scholars, parents, the elderly etc.
Depicting images of the Prophet (peace be upon him) is strictly forbidden in Islam. The rationale for the prohibition, inter alia, of depicting the Prophet (peace be upon him) is that he was too sublime to be truly portrayed. Furthermore, attempts at portraying him could result in his image being distorted. There are therefore no records of any authentic image or portrait of him anywhere in the world, from any period of Islamic history, which is a significant point of note.
Any attempt to depict the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in illustration is an attempt to depict the sacrosanct, which is not allowed. The nature of cartoons is to satirise and trivialise. This is clearly not acceptable in the case of a personality who is held in the highest esteem by almost 2 billion people globally.
Irrespective of what the motive is for the repeated publishing and displaying of these blasphemous cartoons – whether for cheap publicity, political gains, deliberate provocation, or due to sheer ignorance – it is grossly offensive and highly insensitive and will always be rejected by all people of morality with the contempt it deserves!
Muslims accept the principle of constructive freedom of expression, but not the freedom to wantonly insult, which is sometimes deviously and deceptively masqueraded as freedom of expression. True freedom of expression is freedom FROM insult, not freedom TO insult! Freedom to insult has ultimately resulted in hatred, bigotry and even destruction. Humour that is disrespectful, insensitive and offensive, is not humour, but is in fact hubris.
But when Muslims object, the stock response is that they do not appreciate freedom of expression. The media and others view this as an infringement of the right of freedom of speech. However, one aspect that is often overlooked is that no right is absolute; there are inherent limitations. Every right is counterbalanced against other rights. Every right has to be exercised with utmost responsibility.
The blatant hypocrisy of certain leaders in the application of freedom of speech is glaringly visible for the world to see! Whilst they harp on the promotion of freedom of speech, they are intolerant of any criticism of themselves or things that are dear to them. So much for freedom of speech!
Muslim leaders and masses would be justifiably outraged and enraged by this act of profanity. This could even precipitate protests and boycotts. The worldwide anger and outpouring of objections has made it amply clear that Muslims will never accept disrespect to the Prophet (peace be upon him) or whatever else is deemed sacred to them. Despite this open provocation, Muslims are urged to follow the noble example of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon Him) in the kind, tolerant and forgiving manner he dealt with his enemies and continued to invite them to the Path of Guidance.
12 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1442 / 28 October 2020
Darul Ihsan Humanitarian Centre
https://darulihsan.com/index.php/news/item/9002-freedom-of-expression-is-freedom-from-insult-not-freedom-to-insult 21 Likes 2 Shares |
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| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Patrioticman007(m): 10:36am On Oct 30, 2020 |
"If you talk about Jews, you're anti Semitic.
If you criticize gays, you're homophobic.
If you make fun of colored people, you're racist.
But when you insult our Prophet, you're practicing your right as part of your freedom!
Your freedom ends when you start offending .
Food for thought
# say no to islamphobia 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by donprinyo(m): 10:37am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
hypocrite!
We know your type.
It means you never had any parent or you were a born throw way or you are simply sick in the head My Dad will simply laugh over it. Even your Mohammed would do so unless he had low self esteem. I heard rumors that he has small dick that's why he likes small children 23 Likes 6 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by autolearner: 10:37am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Patrioticman007:
"If you talk about Jews, you're anti Semitic.
If you criticize gays, you're homophobic.
If you make fun of colored people, you're racist.
But when you insult our Prophet, you're practicing your right as part of your freedom!
Your freedom ends when you start offending .
Food for thought .
Friend22:
I hope it won't be out of place if someone in the name of freedom of expression draws a cartoon of your dad sleeping with your mum (showing their privates) on a national daily.
And I hope you will pat such person on the back for expressing their undeniable freedom?!
Idiot!
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GAYS DON'T KILL
COLORED PEOPLE DON'T KILL
FREEDOM DOESN'T END WHEN YOU INSULT ALLAH, FEEL FREE TO INSULT BACK.
BUT WHEN YOU JUSTIFY THE INSULT OF ALLAH WITH DEATH, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN EXTREMIST, SECOND TO A TERRORIST, WHO DESERVES NOT TO BE AMONG HUMANS!
While I do not support insults at anyone regardless of their leanings, sexually, religious-wise or in any other form possible, WHAT IS ABHORRENT & REPUGNANT AND SHOULD BE SO FOR ANYONE WHO IS OF A SANE MIND, is justifying maiming random humans and decapitating people in the retaliation to these insults.
This same energy Muslims worldwide put into 'the fight against the insult of Allah - either in writing, verbal insults or posts like these on public fora', should be converted to shouting down & fishing out Islamic Extremists. Aggregate this energy in the fight against terrorism and radical nonces.
See those quiet intellectuals, always writing in support, just like the OP, the ones I have quoted above & some others you'd see on this thread, they will continually pander quietly in support of these radicals, allowing them to run riot in the name of Islam, as long as it consider it protective of their beliefs in Allah.
It is a huge shame and for anyone like the quoted who'd come to make spurious justification, please remember that, YOU CAN NEVER JUSTIFY INSULTS OF ALLAH WITH DEATH & GRUESOME DECAPITATION!
IF YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE KILLINGS, SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR WITH THE SAME ENERGY YOU DEFEND ALLAH WITH.
CALL OUT THE KILLERS.
CALL OUT YOUR RELIGIOUS SHEIKS WHO SUPPORT THE DEATH
CALL OUT THE PRESIDENT OF TURKEY & EX-PM OF MALAYSIA
DON'T TELL ME ABOUT HOW INSULTS ARE BAD, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY.
TELL YOURSELVES ABOUT HOW YOU QUIETLY SUPPORT MURDER & DAILY JUSTIFY TERRORISM BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PROTECT 'allah' BY ALL MEANS.
SAVE US THE NOISE ABOUT HOW SOMEONE INSULTED ALLAH
SAVE THE WORLD OF YOUR QUIET SUPPORT FOR BLOOD-THIRSTY NONCES WHO SHARE THE SAME RELIGION WITH YOU
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| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by edoairways: 10:37am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
I hope it won't be out of place if someone in the name of freedom of expression draws a cartoon of your dad sleeping with your mum (showing their privates) on a national daily.
And I hope you will pat such person on the back for expressing their undeniable freedom?!
Idiot!
Does that warrant killing? 14 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Draught: 10:38am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
Suit yourself.
But mind you,dont insult us here.
I don't see Muslims going to Christian pages on Sunday to insult or cast slurs at them yet they feel comfortable coming here to dish it out. It's OK friend, I just aired my view, the killing is unjust, why can't you condemn that?.. Happy Friday, stay well. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Victorclean1: 10:38am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Macron deserves what he got. When they were warning him not to allow terrorists,(muslims) into their country, he refused. Obama a hidden muslim convinved him. They should rip what they sow.
Islam is cancerous 14 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Friend22(m): 10:38am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Ifeann:
Is lslam is a joke.
Muslims are Killing people in France because of a carton of an obvious fake prophet who had mental issues. It's ridiculous
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| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by Ifeann(f): 10:39am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
Suit yourself.
But mind you,dont insult us here.
I don't see Muslims going to Christian pages on Sunday to insult or cast slurs at them yet they feel comfortable coming here to dish it out. You muslims do that all the time and more. A muslim just beheaded an old woman inside a cathedral in France and ur fellow muslim is hear warning people about drawing a fellow that died 1600 years ago. Religion surely messes with people's senses. 28 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by hotwax: 10:39am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Friend22:
I asked a question, but it seems the question caught a raw nerve there.
Idiots like you come to Muslim pages to insult us and when we give you back your own dose you call us names.
Grunting irritating pigs! if your father is not an idiot, he wont produce a psssy like you. He was stupid to have wasted his energy, sporm, and money to produce you. dont come here and tell us who we should or should not insult. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Insulting The Prophet: Freedom Of Expression Is Freedom FROM Insult, NOT To! by hotwax: 10:40am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Victorclean1:
Macron deserves what he got. When they were warning him not to allow terrorists,(muslims) into their country, he refused. Obama a hidden muslim convinved him. They should rip what they sow.
Islam is cancerous their husband trump is in america, let them try and behead na...the masses are armed with guns, they will go after those muslims with bullets. I think american fathers were wise and visionary 15 Likes 5 Shares |
