| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by fk001(m): 9:56am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Nchenches:
PDP leaders believe in reality that PDP can only regain power if PDP fields a Fulani against APC.
With 20 states created in one northern region but 17 states created in the two southern regions, the roguish political structure thus makes Fulani-led northern region the quasi new owner of Nigeria.
Land mass is never used as criterion to proliferate too many new states or regions in an area of larger land mass when a country was formed by different regions.
There should have been equal number of states for the three regions that formed Nigeria in 1960.
A presidential candidate must win 25% of votes in 24 states before proclaimed winner. No presidential candidate from the south can win, unless anointed by Fulani as stooge.
What makes you think Nigeria has 3 regions instead of 2 or 6 zones? Is criminal to tag the whole north as a single zone/ region or whatever while south as two. The north has more tribes than the south, the north is more diverse than the south. Just because they adopted Hausa as their lingua franca that doesn't mean North is single tribe if that's the case then south that adopted Pigieon as their lingua franca should also be called one regardless of tribe. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Antoeni(m): 9:57am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Thief Nwadiuto247:
But a political party associates with boko Haram , bandits and terrorists . Your head is not correct. |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by lailo: 9:57am On Nov 12, 2020 |
NnadyAutos:
Understand that Ebony state is not pure Igbo state,even Governor Imagine of Ebony state is a political Igbo not core Igbo. Gov. imagine? lolllll |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Emekaonline: 9:58am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Golan007:
The Ipob amongst them should remain in PDP.
Don't jinx APC.
See what you did to Trump.
 Hahahahaah. They infected Trump with their badluck 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Asukuebira1: 10:01am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Eastlink:
The SE are the cause of their political predicaments today. They lost the plot after the death of Zik. No matter how the pro-Biafran dumb bandwagon may want to paint Zik, he made sure the Igbos got their fair share in the power sharing equation. Any wonder why since 1993 no Igbo have come close to attaining the Presidential seat. Following the PDP stupidly was a political mistake that has come back to hunt Igbos.
Seeing that the PDP had no future for them from 1999 -2003, they should have joined any formidable party to send them packing. But that was never done. In 2003 when the opportunity presented itself they foolishly played the southern game by supporting Obasanjo instead of a Buhari with a SE running mate. They had the opportunity with Buhari/Okadigbo ANPP but cowardly supported Obasanjo. What did Obasanjo gift them in return, political death? The same Obasanjo is the godfather of MASSOB who has now metamorphosed to IPOB, a monster currently ravaging the Igbo nation.
The opportunity arose again in 2007 with Buhari / Umezuoke but still our people ignorantly sold their birthright supporting Yar’adua / GEJ. Though Yar’adua was fair to everyone, but fairness and sympathy votes don’t count in Nigeria.
The last opportunity came in 2015 when Buhari toured the SE for Igbo alliance. A zone that had stood with him since 2001, but what he saw made him weep. Seeing that he couldn't get it he looked to the SW. This was where Ndigbo shot themselves in the foot. Even when the likes of Rochas with his APGA faction along with Ogbonnaya Onu ANPP rallied Ndigbo to join the APC, the wicked PDP politicians of Igbo extraction called them outcast and continued dining with the PDP. What should have been a bargaining chip in the APC was sold on the alter of greed. By foolishly standing with GEJ in 2015, the SE sounded their political death knell.
Well, It’s never too late than never. The SE must leave the PDP in drove, either starting a new party or seek the fellowship of the APC. A people must have self-worth and not be easily swayed by emotions. This is the lesson. THIS IS A GOOD ANALYSIS. THANKS FOR TAKING US DOWN MEMORY LANE. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 10:16am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Antoeni:
Thief Foolishness at it's peak |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by catherine1998: 10:17am On Nov 12, 2020 |
NnadyAutos:
Understand that Ebony state is not pure Igbo state,even Governor Imagine of Ebony state is a political Igbo not core Igbo. You must be stupid to sound that stupid, which proven philosophy established measures for core igbo, or you just think you can wake up nd spill nonsense about a state, Idiot 2 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by gwafaeziokwu: 10:17am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Misterdhee1:
If Igbos are truly this objective like you make your post depict, they shouldn't be supporting pdp as an alternative to apc, because pdp is the major reason Nigeria's fresh restart in 1999 turned and continue to turn to nightmare. In reality, igbos are proud and egocentric people, who never want to accept they are wrong, even in the face of glaring evidence. You know the flip side? You guys are politically useless, so the other two major tribes don't give a hoot on whatever political choices y'all make. You don't get it. Igbos sticking with PDP in 2015 was a mass revolt against the fulani mafians that want to take back power through Buhari. A lot of Igbos were dissatisfied with Goodluck Jonathan government but the alternative was a no no for them. CPC as of then was made up of the most fanatical ethno religious northerners and their alliance with the AC in the west did nothing to water down our instinct about the impending doom. See, we have born the biggest brunt of this farcical nationhood so we can tell danger from 1000km off. We warned the nation to stay clear of the Kaduna mafians ably led by Buhari but we were mocked and ridiculed. Today Nigeria has turned into a massive grave yard. Goodluck might be clueless but he didn't turn all nooks and crannies of Nigeria into a vast killing field. Right to life supercede every other thing you can think of. That is the core believe of the Igbo man and it will continue to form the basis of our relationship with any group in this nation. NB : your last two lines were just mere emotional drivel. The fact that you are here discussing Igbo political matter makes nonsense of your claim. 3 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by afroxyz: 10:19am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Eastlink:
The SE are the cause of their political predicaments today. They lost the plot after the death of Zik. No matter how the pro-Biafran dumb bandwagon may want to paint Zik, he made sure the Igbos got their fair share in the power sharing equation. Any wonder why since 1993 no Igbo have come close to attaining the Presidential seat. Following the PDP stupidly was a political mistake that has come back to hunt Igbos.
Seeing that the PDP had no future for them from 1999 -2003, they should have joined any formidable party to send them packing. But that was never done. In 2003 when the opportunity presented itself they foolishly played the southern game by supporting Obasanjo instead of a Buhari with a SE running mate. They had the opportunity with Buhari/Okadigbo ANPP but cowardly supported Obasanjo. What did Obasanjo gift them in return, political death? The same Obasanjo is the godfather of MASSOB who has now metamorphosed to IPOB, a monster currently ravaging the Igbo nation.
The opportunity arose again in 2007 with Buhari / Umezuoke but still our people ignorantly sold their birthright supporting Yar’adua / GEJ. Though Yar’adua was fair to everyone, but fairness and sympathy votes don’t count in Nigeria.
The last opportunity came in 2015 when Buhari toured the SE for Igbo alliance. A zone that had stood with him since 2001, but what he saw made him weep. Seeing that he couldn't get it he looked to the SW. This was where Ndigbo shot themselves in the foot. Even when the likes of Rochas with his APGA faction along with Ogbonnaya Onu ANPP rallied Ndigbo to join the APC, the wicked PDP politicians of Igbo extraction called them outcast and continued dining with the PDP. What should have been a bargaining chip in the APC was sold on the alter of greed. By foolishly standing with GEJ in 2015, the SE sounded their political death knell.
Well, It’s never too late than never. The SE must leave the PDP in drove, either starting a new party or seek the fellowship of the APC. A people must have self-worth and not be easily swayed by emotions. This is the lesson. So you are saying Igbos should have left Obasanjo and Jonathan to vote for Buhari? Has the deeds of the Dillard not covumces you that Buhari is the worst thing to have happened to this nation? Has the decision of Igbos to snub the Dullard not been validated? You just wrote a long epistle with no point to pass. 3 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by SLOVFO(m): 10:20am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Eastlink:
The SE are the cause of their political predicaments today. They lost the plot after the death of Zik. No matter how the pro-Biafran dumb bandwagon may want to paint Zik, he made sure the Igbos got their fair share in the power sharing equation. Any wonder why since 1993 no Igbo have come close to attaining the Presidential seat. Following the PDP stupidly was a political mistake that has come back to hunt Igbos.
Seeing that the PDP had no future for them from 1999 -2003, they should have joined any formidable party to send them packing. But that was never done. In 2003 when the opportunity presented itself they foolishly played the southern game by supporting Obasanjo instead of a Buhari with a SE running mate. They had the opportunity with Buhari/Okadigbo ANPP but cowardly supported Obasanjo. What did Obasanjo gift them in return, political death? The same Obasanjo is the godfather of MASSOB who has now metamorphosed to IPOB, a monster currently ravaging the Igbo nation.
The opportunity arose again in 2007 with Buhari / Umezuoke but still our people ignorantly sold their birthright supporting Yar’adua / GEJ. Though Yar’adua was fair to everyone, but fairness and sympathy votes don’t count in Nigeria.
The last opportunity came in 2015 when Buhari toured the SE for Igbo alliance. A zone that had stood with him since 2001, but what he saw made him weep. Seeing that he couldn't get it he looked to the SW. This was where Ndigbo shot themselves in the foot. Even when the likes of Rochas with his APGA faction along with Ogbonnaya Onu ANPP rallied Ndigbo to join the APC, the wicked PDP politicians of Igbo extraction called them outcast and continued dining with the PDP. What should have been a bargaining chip in the APC was sold on the alter of greed. By foolishly standing with GEJ in 2015, the SE sounded their political death knell.
Well, It’s never too late than never. The SE must leave the PDP in drove, either starting a new party or seek the fellowship of the APC. A people must have self-worth and not be easily swayed by emotions. This is the lesson. PDP or no PDP what we want is a better Nigeria for all. It doesn't matter whether the next president is from the west, north ,south or east what we want is good governance and equity. 1 Like |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by afroxyz: 10:20am On Nov 12, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:
You don't get it. Igbos sticking with PDP in 2015 was a mass revolt against the fulani mafians that want to take back power through Buhari. A lot of Igbos were dissatisfied with Goodluck Jonathan government but the alternative was a no no for them. CPC as of then was made up of the most fanatical ethno religious northerners and their alliance with the AC in the west did nothing to water down our instinct about the impending doom.
See, we have born the biggest brunt of this farcical nationhood so we can tell danger from 1000km off. We warned the nation to stay clear of the Kaduna mafians ably led by Buhari but we were mocked and ridiculed. Today Nigeria has turned into a massive grave yard. Goodluck might be clueless but he didn't turn all nooks and crannies of Nigeria into a vast killing field. Right to life supercede every other thing you can think of.
That is the core believe of the Igbo man and it will continue to form the basis of our relationship with any group in this nation.
NB : your last two lines were just mere emotional drivel. The fact that you are here discussing Igbo political matter makes nonsense of your claim. No.mimd the giy. Spewing emotional shit. How can you blame people for for seeing the tyranny that we are suffering now? 2 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 10:21am On Nov 12, 2020 |
NnadyAutos:
Understand that Ebony state is not pure Igbo state,even Governor Imagine of Ebony state is a political Igbo not core Igbo. Funny |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by yaki84: 10:21am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Nwadiuto247:
PDP will lose a lot of vote in the southeast in 2023 election due to the following.
The 2015 and 2019 voting pattern in the South East was a kind of protest vote against APC who they see as people who cheated Jonathan out of power. With Buhari out of the game in 2023 the voting pattern will change and
PDP will lose a good number of it's voters in the South East to APC.
2. The rumour of killing of igbos in Oyigbo is another factor that has dampen the excitement the south east have about Wike and PDP.
3. The defection of Gov. Umahi to APC will lead to more defection before 2023 and this will affect PDP. Votes in the SE.
The days of 5% APC and 95% PDP in the South East are over.
APC has more visible projects in South East than the PDP but PDP gave South East more appointments than APC so each of the party has something to compaigñ with in the southeast.
The Southeast is now a level playing ground for both parties.
U r still a political neophyte. All what u penned up there is nothing. Apc will never give igbo it's presidential ticket, who will they give? Umahi defecting is because he needs the ticket, orji Kalu is seated already canvassing for the same ticket, okorocha too is hustling for the same ticket. Meanwhile somewhere in ikoyi, a certain jagaban has worked hard for that ticket and he is waiting for the party to deliver it to him either thru the bullion van or one of his private jets. The voting pattern won't change and in fact it will be worse this time cos once the ticket is won and loss and it is the south east that lose it, the protest votes will be unprecedented. Pdp had the choice to chose a yoruba man for the VP to run with atiku but had to concede it to obi. Do u know if they had picked a Yoruba, the election would have been tougher... Bro go back and learn politics, u r still in the womb. 1 Like |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by yaki84: 10:26am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Eastlink:
Igbos lost the plot by foolishly selling their fate to Obasanjo’s PDP. It's still beats my imagination that a major tribe is still running aimlessly in the wilderness. When shall Ndigbo get it right? Please during those years of obj which tribe was the Senate president? 3 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by northvietnam(m): 10:26am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Eastlink:
Igbos lost the plot by foolishly selling their fate to Obasanjo’s PDP. It's still beats my imagination that a major tribe is still running aimlessly in the wilderness. When shall Ndigbo get it right? Blame the political class that can’t do simple permutations.... Leave the masses out of it.. Igbo political class sold their birthweight for portage yam... they can’t see past the present make I chop format 1 Like |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by emperor863(m): 10:34am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Cjrane2:
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Useless, unnecessary propaganda!
Igbos massively supported NPN even against their own NPP. Point being that once you don't treat Igbos as second class people like APC has done, they will support you.
APC can dream to Las Vegas that they will claim SE without rigging. Chris Ngige was very very popular in Anambra. Yet, did his defection bring APC to power in Anambra? He couldn't even win under APC, even when people loved him.
Truth is that unless they change their attitude towards Igbos, 20 Umahi defections will change nothing.
BTW, i know APC thinks even without Igbo support they can rule Nigeria. Yes, but ask Buhari how sweet it has been ruling Nigeria while deliberately marginalizing a major ethnic group. So, Igbos could care less if APC rigs itself to power in Abuja. Nigeria will remain exactly as it is today under Buhari and even worse, unless they change their attitude. A very big error of assumption. APC will win 2023 elections without the southeast if it is necessary. At the same time, APC will rule the country successfully with or without southeast support. What is currently going on in Nigeria that you are gloating about (people of your extraction are usually happy when bad things are happening) is due to the political inexperience of Buhari and his morbid fear of military coup (having been removed from office once) that made him to appoint trusted persons who have parochial interest and therefore unsuitable for governance of a country as complex as Nigeria. The next APC government will rule successfully with or without Igbo support just like GEJ ruled without the support of the southwest in 2011 - 2015. Events of the last few weeks have indicated that PDP is ended. I need not say much on this for now. |
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| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by yaki84: 10:44am On Nov 12, 2020 |
jamesversion:
Igbos are unserious. So now, APC is no longer an Islamic party. Their love for ready made will be their undoing. Igbos cannot really claim to have been completely loyal to PDP.
Anambra has always been APGA
Abia has fluctuated between PDP, PPA and PDP
Imo has also fluctuated between PDP, PPA, APGA, APC, PDP and APC again.
Ebonyi is now in APC.
Only Enugu can lay claim to PDP loyalty.
The truest and most loyal PDP members are found in Rivers, Delta, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross River states. So when talk about Igbos being loyal to PDP, I just SMH.
Igbos are a big tribe, they should all rally behind APGA, the party which is the legacy of Ojukwu to them and grow it to National acceptance as some Individuals grew APC into the ruling party it is now.
Others cannot cook and long throat Igbos arrive to chop. who does that. Apc is a conglomerate of different political structures. From cpc, acn, anpp, new pdp, and partly apga. Without this merger it wouldn't have been possible for opposition or single buhari to win gej. In 2011 buhari won the entire north east and Northwest states. 2023 I see no unifying personality in apc that will do the trick for them except the inec Man 3 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Oriakku: 10:46am On Nov 12, 2020 |
We will display the pictures and state of origin of the following nairalanders for people to see them:
(1) Helinues
(2) Arrewa.
(3) Thatfairguy.
(4) Ngpatroit
Nairalanders should expect their pictures displayed here on this forum soon. We've gotten their pictures and we are waiting for them to misbehave. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Kinikini: 10:48am On Nov 12, 2020 |
It's all about 2023 Igbo presidency. Gambling to go reap where the Igbos didn't show. And, they will wipe up so much sentiments if the ticket does not go to the SE.
quote author=Nwadiuto247 post=95938123]PDP will lose a lot of vote in the southeast in 2023 election due to the following.
The 2015 and 2019 voting pattern in the South East was a kind of protest vote against APC who they see as people who cheated Jonathan out of power. With Buhari out of the game in 2023 the voting pattern will change and
PDP will lose a good number of it's voters in the South East to APC.
2. The rumour of killing of igbos in Oyigbo is another factor that has dampen the excitement the south east have about Wike and PDP.
3. The defection of Gov. Umahi to APC will lead to more defection before 2023 and this will affect PDP. Votes in the SE.
The days of 5% APC and 95% PDP in the South East are over.
APC has more visible projects in South East than the PDP but PDP gave South East more appointments than APC so each of the party has something to compaigñ with in the southeast.
The Southeast is now a level playing ground for both parties.
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| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by LZAA: 10:48am On Nov 12, 2020 |
OPPPS:
Do you sign a life slavery agreement with PDP? 1 Like 
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| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by helinues: 10:50am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Oriakku:
We will display the pictures and state of origin of the following nairalanders for people to see them:
(1) Helinues aka Helen.
(2) Arrewa.
(3) Thatfairguy.
(4) Ngpatroit
Nairalanders should expect their pictures displayed here on this forum soon. We've gotten their pictures and we are waiting for them to misbehave. Their nude pictures won't be bad. A joker EdoFirstBorn 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by helinues: 10:51am On Nov 12, 2020 |
[quote author=LZAA post=95955025][/quote] Do you sign a life slavery agreement with PDP? Answer the question... Are you on lifetime agreement with PDP? EdoFirstBorn 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by OPPPS: 10:52am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Oriakku:
We will display the pictures and state of origin of the following nairalanders for people to see them:
(1) Helinues aka Helen.
(2) Arrewa.
(3) Thatfairguy.
(4) Ngpatroit
Nairalanders should expect their pictures displayed here on this forum soon. We've gotten their pictures and we are waiting for them to misbehave. Typical lazy youth. Your mates are displaying their houses and their new wagons on social media. Here you are displaying picture of Nairaland. Your village people must have gotten a hold of your destiny 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by LZAA: 10:54am On Nov 12, 2020 |
helinues:
Answer the question... Are you on lifetime agreement with PDP? 
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| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by OPPPS: 10:55am On Nov 12, 2020 |
[quote author=LZAA post=95955229][/quote]
A slave has no ball |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 10:55am On Nov 12, 2020 |
helinues:
Answer the question... Are you on lifetime agreement with PDP? Good question. |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by okpukpu(m): 10:56am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Moferere:
South East is overrated and the PDP know it.
Despite having their son on the ballot in 2019, South East gave PDP the least votes in the South.
And you think any reasonable party that's aware of high voter apathy in the East will give them its ticket?
Below is the score of PDP in the southern part of Nigeria in 2019.
South East — 1,693,485
South West — 1,776,670
South South — 2,231,232
South east...yes Igbos... NO 1 Like |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Oriakku: 10:57am On Nov 12, 2020 |
helinues:
Their nude pictures won't be bad.
A joker your nude does not worth seeing. so no need to display it here |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Preshob(m): 10:59am On Nov 12, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:
Too much hate and bile in one post.
I am amused by the fact that you conveniently excluded Ekwueme vice presidency under Shagari , which would would have given birth to a democratically elected Igbo presidency just few years after the civil war if Buhari did not intervene via military coup. Despite the war ,the first time it was time for real politics we took the centre stage, even Awolowo, despite all his alliance with the north during the war, lost out to the more sophiscated political machinery of the East.
Anyway the fact that the so called Igbo political dilemma gives you headache is a clear sign that they live in your subconscious mind. The average Igbo man is not bothered about what people like you think of his politics. Right to choice is his fundamental human right and he will continue to exercise it to your ultimate misery.
One thing most of you is yet to grasp is the cultural idiosyncrasies and world view of a race as intriguing as Ndigbo. Even if all the Igbo political leaders decides to join APC today you guys would be shocked by the reaction of the Igbo public during election. Right to life equity and justice, remain the most core of our value.
Your culture might prefer APC to build sky scrappers for you in the cities while the most vulnerable and weak die in remote farms in villages in the hands of killerherdsmen. That is your own thing. But it makes no sense to an Igbo man. What is happening in Nigeria presently with total subjugation and maiming of the citizens by government and their sponsored less official army is the reason Ndigbo will hand APC another rejection come 2023.
It does not matter if he wins or not, but an Igbo man must make known his mind without minding the consequences. Fortunately for us, everyman is a governor in his own house, so a thousand Umahi might be speaking for himself. PDP should do fast and hand over the presidency to the zone they preferred outside of the south east, Igbo public will respond then our political office holders will get the message.
We are not fighting a short term battle ,NO, we are fighting in the long run. We are building our self up for the future. We are building alliances base on ideologies. The voting pattern in the last election despite heavy rigging by APC should be an eye opener. We are a big tribe and can influence in a large way political followership. Relax ,watch and learn.
Peace Thank you Sir!!! you holistically summarised everything. We Igbos are not fighting a short-term battle or a battle that'll benefit a selected few to the detriment of the larger population. We have our standards and live by them!! 3 Likes |
| Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by OPPPS: 10:59am On Nov 12, 2020 |
Oriakku:
your nude does not worth seeing. so no need to display it here Keep quiet and get a life. Typical lazy youth |
