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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by gwafaeziokwu: 3:37pm On Nov 12, 2020
LegendHero:


One thing always amaze me about you Ibos, it is the fact that you are nothing in politics but always attribute too much importance to yourselves and that always bring you guys out as jokers and inconsequential in politics because the players have understood your NOTHINGNESS.

Igbo don’t practice democracy, what is democracy when almost 90% of a tribe vote the same party everytime like they are being controlled by an emotional force?

True political democracy gives the people the liberty to choose among political parties in an election and the ability of citizens to vote in almost 60/40, 55/45% way is what makes democracy strong because the politicians will always be on their toes.

To buttress my fact, take Ikpeazu for example, he know that even if he did not do anything in Abia, the Ibos will always vote him because he is in PDP. That will make him relax and think he can do anyhow. What is democratic in that?

I’ve always tell people that the Igbos cannot succeed in politics like their peers in the majority tribe because your pattern of votes can be predicted with 100% accuracy. That gives your enemies the projection power to strategize because your votes are constant K, so they can easily mitigate against the effect.

What’s democracy when people are driven by emotions? Igbos are the only major tribe in Nigeria that are emotionally weak and that is your greatest problem.

See one of the dundees I was talking about a while ago. They place emotion and primitive sentiments above sound reasoning.

Some one form a tribe whom even when they were among the big three, took almost 17 good years after independence to come close to the seat of power. And it was by chance, Dimka did all the dirty job and power fell into the laps of clueless Obasanjo. It will take another 23 odd years before they came close again via same Obasanjo when the rest of Nigeria decided to humour the June 12 cry and ditched a certain Ekwueme presidency just to make southwest feel part of the nation. Tell me what sophisticated political machinery you had in place that handed you the presidency in 1999. All of you naively pitch your tent with AD thinking that politics is by activism and not consensus.

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Luckily you got the message in 2015 after playing politics with two left legs for years and suddenly Omulabi are the eternal champions in the political chess game. Talk of chest beating! We attained the positions of Governor general, president, vice president, head of state, Senate President and so many others before Yorubas ever came close in Nigeria.

Guy we clinched vice presidency from under your nose barely ten years after we fought against the rest of the country. You were supposed to be the good guys but you lost big time, and Awolowo officially resigned from politics.

Igbos are the real Democrats. Democracy is when power belongs to the people. In your type of democracy, you follow the latest leader to any party he wants. Example, if Tinubu have a huge fall out with Aso rock and decide to float a new party, all Omulabi will jump ship. You always want someone to speak on your behalf while you follow. As good as Peter Obi was to ndi Anambra during his reign as governor, he entered PDP and wanted to use his popularity to influence the Anambra election. Ndi Anambra stood with Obiano and gave him 21/21. Edo people also replicated same feat recently.Because it is all about the people. Yet Obi knows we love him, but he also understand why we do not want PDP leadership in Anambra state at that time. That is real democracy. Where people make all the choices. Lagos failed woefully in this respect and has become the butt of political jokes in Nigeria.

Now down east, we know that there is no difference between all these political parties. They are made up of the same vultures that devour our common wealth, as APC has proven. So Igbos look out for one thing in the party that will be at the federal level. Level playing ground and equity. PDP was fair to all Nigerians and that resonates with the fairness spirit of Ndigbo and they will continue to get their votes until a new party prove to be better.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nobody: 3:41pm On Nov 12, 2020
Both PDP and APC are dead in the East.

Orji Kalu, Amechi and Umahi are deceiving themselves.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 3:49pm On Nov 12, 2020
Ayed44:
All this just because of Igbo presidency. Agreed that in the spirit of fairness there must be Igbo presidency, but I would advise the Igbos to use wisdom so that they would not loose their place of honor in the PDP. If the APC ticket is given to an Igbo and the North retains the PDP ticket, there would be higher chances that the PDP will win the election and the Igbos will become orphans politically for the next 30 years.

We need wisdom!
Not just for presidency alone but also in the national assembly.

Let there be a balanced spread n the APC and PDP for better politicking and negotiation.

Thats my point. Election is not only about the presidency please.

I appreciate your submission
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Gracchus: 4:10pm On Nov 12, 2020
LegendHero:


One thing always amaze me about you Ibos, it is the fact that you are nothing in politics but always attribute too much importance to yourselves and that always bring you guys out as jokers and inconsequential in politics because the players have understood your NOTHINGNESS.

Igbo don’t practice democracy, what is democracy when almost 90% of a tribe vote the same party everytime like they are being controlled by an emotional force?

True political democracy gives the people the liberty to choose among political parties in an election and the ability of citizens to vote in almost 60/40, 55/45% way is what makes democracy strong because the politicians will always be on their toes.

To buttress my fact, take Ikpeazu for example, he know that even if he did not do anything in Abia, the Ibos will always vote him because he is in PDP. That will make him relax and think he can do anyhow. What is democratic in that?

I’ve always tell people that the Igbos cannot succeed in politics like their peers in the majority tribe because your pattern of votes can be predicted with 100% accuracy. That gives your enemies the projection power to strategize because your votes are constant K, so they can easily mitigate against the effect.

What’s democracy when people are driven by emotions? Igbos are the only major tribe in Nigeria that are emotionally weak and that is your greatest problem.
God bless you bro. They are mostly hypocrites. Even if their governors don't do anything, so far you belong to pdp, victory is sure fog you, even a goat in pdp vs another politician in say Apc, that goat will still win, little wonder you can truly predict who will win elections in most their states. Yet they will open their stinking mouth and shout that they are democratic, democratic my foot, they are simply one party region, nothing more.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by DMerciful(m): 4:12pm On Nov 12, 2020
You make it sound like being islamic is a bad thing. Is it?
Positivepoint:



This will not change the views the north has on the south east. They promoted so much hate about APC about the party is islamic
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 4:17pm On Nov 12, 2020
patrickmuf:
The only reason why the South can't stand up to the North is this supremacy fight between the Yorubas and Igbos. Why exactly is it so difficult for you guys to come together and put up a good fight against Northern dominance?

This fight is affecting the South, you guys should put your differences behind so the South can speak with one voice.

Worse off is seeing idiots here on Nairaland who should know better towing the same line that has held us back.

I desire the unity of the South.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by LegendHero(m): 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


See one of the dundees I was talking about a while ago. They place emotion and primitive sentiments above sound reasoning.


Lol, the only self evident truth here is that Igbos are actually the one that are primitive in thinking and emotional beings that act based on impulse.


Some one form a tribe whom even when they were among the big three, took almost 17 good years after independence to come close to the seat of power. And it was by chance, Dimka did all the dirty job and power fell into the laps of clueless Obasanjo. It will take another 23 odd years before they came close again via same Obasanjo when the rest of Nigeria decided to humour the June 12 cry and ditched a certain Ekwueme presidency just to make southwest feel part of the nation. Tell me what sophisticated political machinery you had in place that handed you the presidency in 1999. All of you naively pitch your tent with AD thinking that politics is by activism and not consensus.
All this jargons doesn’t stop the fact that the Yorubas have contested and won a national election through the ballot 3 different times while the Ibos only had one shot at playing second fiddle with a gift of executive president in Azikwe without power. In politics, when you measure the successes of both tribes, you’ll see that the Yorubas are not your mate.

I will take the Igbo serious when you can contest election and win the SS + SW + NC + and most of the North like Abiola did in 1993, until then you’re just inconsequential braggarts that are inferior in politics.


Luckily you got the message in 2015 after playing politics with two left legs for years and suddenly Omulabi are the eternal champions in the political chess game. Talk of chest beating! We attained the positions of Governor general, president, vice president, head of state, Senate President and so many others before Yorubas ever came close in Nigeria.

Attain head of state through treachery of killing other tribe leader while Azikwe played second fiddle audio president to Balewa who had the real power as prime minister. In all this epistle, the fact still remain that no Ibo man have contested an election through the ballot and won. Even in opposition, the Yoruba still wielded more power than you second fiddle Ibos and that is the fact.

Until you can achieve that feat, you are just noisemakers.

Guy we clinched vice presidency from under your nose barely ten years after we fought against the rest of the country. You were supposed to be the good guys but you lost big time, and Awolowo officially resigned from politics.
We can also argue that it was used to try to make you guys feel among from the psychological effect of the civil war. When real men boast with winning ballot as president, an Ibo man is boasting of VP as achievements lol. Is that how low you guys can be?

The same Awolow have always gotten the second highest vote in presidential elections anytime he contest with another Ibo man on the ballot. You have always been spoilers and jokers when it comes to election and they only thing you’ve constantly done is playing second fiddle to the North.


Igbos are the real Democrats. Democracy is when power belongs to the people. In your type of democracy, you follow the latest leader to any party he wants. Example, if Tinubu have a huge fall out with Aso rock and decide to float a new party, all Omulabi will jump ship. You always want someone to speak on your behalf while you follow. As good as Peter Obi was to ndi Anambra during his reign as governor, he entered PDP and wanted to use his popularity to influence the Anambra election. Ndi Anambra stood with Obiano and gave him 21/21. Edo people also replicated same feat recently.Because it is all about the people. Yet Obi knows we love him, but he also understand why we do not want PDP leadership in Anambra state at that time. That is real democracy. Where people make all the choices. Lagos failed woefully in this respect and has become the butt of political jokes in Nigeria.
There is nothing democratic about the Igbos, all I see is just herd mentality and a people that can be easily remote controlled using emotional tools. Tinubu himself knows he doesn’t have SW in the bag as you can see that he can’t even boast of 60% of the votes in most SW states. No state except Lagos in the West have been a single party since 1999, they have always alternated between the two major parties because the Yorubas know what democracy is and use it to change government based in their need.

Tinubu had such hold on the SW because he presented us with ACN who were more better than the mediocre we always had in PDP. In 2019 election, Atiku with an Igbo vice had almost 45% of the votes in the SW, that showed you the Yorubas play advanced form of politics and are the actual definition of democracy.

What is democratic in igbos? A set of people United in hate with same voting pattern. The force controlling the Igbo political decision is psychological, outward it looks like the people have a say, but if you look at it, it’s just a people controlled with a political force carefully masterminded by your politicians.

Again I ask what is democracy when your votes are always constant K for a certain political party even if they field a nonentity as their candidates.

Now down east, we know that there is no difference between all these political parties. They are made up of the same vultures that devour our common wealth, as APC has proven. So Igbos look out for one thing in the party that will be at the federal level. Level playing ground and equity. PDP was fair to all Nigerians and that resonates with the fairness spirit of Ndigbo and they will continue to get their votes until a new party prove to be better.

You l know there is differences among the political parties in the East which explained why you always demonize APC as Muslim or terrorist party. I salute the Igbo politicians, they have studied their people psyche and they already know your emotions are feeble and they know how to deal with you guys such that you will actually think you have a say, but you’re just dancing to their tunes.

Igbo don’t vote equity, you vote based on emotion then turn around to cry the next minute. Imagine re-voting someone like Ikpeazu with almost 75%-80% of the vote, then you come on nairaland the next day to abuse him for low performance. What is democratic in that?

Igbos vote like robots, someone just program their minds through propaganda while they take the bait and they all sync together without less dissenting opinions.

If Democracy means we must vote our politicians with 85% of the vote everytime, then what is the essence? Why not just select someone instead of wasting state resources for an election?

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by QuotaSystem: 4:25pm On Nov 12, 2020
Nchenches:



Shorup. 3 regions formed Nigeria.

50 states make up the US. Can you go and use land mass as criterion to divide some US states into 4 and some into 2?

Quit clowning.

How are the northern and southern protectorates 3?

If you were not so ignorant you'd realise the US allocated electoral votes per state not equally, but according to the size of the state and population. You can only fool yourself but size and population will ALWAYS be the determinant of political prowess.

Go and sit down.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by QuotaSystem: 4:30pm On Nov 12, 2020
Nchenches:



Did Yoruba not commit political suicide by voting Buhari that Yoruba rejected for 12 years before 2014 Tinubu misadventure?

How come Amotekun now consuming large chunks of federal allocations to Yoruba states?

Nope.

Yorubas move in 2015 was a stroke of political genius that will continue to reward them for decades.

It is you Igbos that are so politically clueless that even minorities have gained relevance over you.

Amotekun was a fruit of tactful political lobbying by the intelligent Yoruba and not your rebellious brainless antagonism.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Positivepoint(m): 4:34pm On Nov 12, 2020
DMerciful:
You make it sound like being islamic is a bad thing. Is it?


That how u people took it
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by DMerciful(m): 4:35pm On Nov 12, 2020
And you accepted it?
Positivepoint:



That how u people took it
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Positivepoint(m): 4:39pm On Nov 12, 2020
DMerciful:
And you accepted it?


Well yes it came from ur heart thus dominating all discussion both on and offline in ur areas.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nchenches: 4:43pm On Nov 12, 2020
QuotaSystem:


Quit clowning.

How are the northern and southern protectorates 3?

If you were not so ignorant you'd realise the US allocated electoral votes per state not equally, but according to the size of the state and population. You can only fool yourself but size and population will ALWAYS be the determinant of political prowess.

Go and sit down.


Clown, see how you nailed yourself: US allocated electoral votes per state depending on population of every state. But in Nigeria, every state has equal electoral value regarding win of 25% votes in 24 states to become winner of Nigeria’s presidential election.

Dumbo, did soldiers from one side of the US create the US political structure and supervised a constitution to legitimize the structure?

If you are not from Arewa, are you not a house Niggaaar? You don’t even understand why Nigeria is like what it’s today.
How far?
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by LegendHero(m): 4:44pm On Nov 12, 2020
Gracchus:
God bless you bro. They are mostly hypocrites. Even if their governors don't do anything, so far you belong to pdp, victory is sure fog you, even a goat in pdp vs another politician in say Apc, that goat will still win, little wonder you can truly predict who will win elections in most their states. Yet they will open their stinking mouth and shout that they are democratic, democratic my foot, they are simply one party region, nothing more.

There are lot of things the Ibos say that people just choose to ignore because there is some form of psychological withdrawal from people due to the effect of the civil war which most times make them not to respond in kind to igbos.

The first narrative is blaming the Yorubas for always siding the North when history showed the Igbos had the longest alliance with the North. Not until we start changing the narratives that the mention of slave to the North died down a bit.

The other one is saying Igbo value democracy. That’s just rubbish assertions. All through their recent history, I don’t see any model of democracy in their nature. You discriminate based on religion, based on clans (OSU), and even based on gender and yet you proclaim yourself democratic.

Igbos don’t entertain dissenting opinions which is why they always label anyone amongst themselves efulefu if they go contrary to their programmed narratives. What is democratic in that?

You vote both performing and non-performing government with majority votes everytime and you said you play advance democracy. Does that even make any sense?

Ibo man think because he beat up Ekweremadu abroad while he vote him with 90% of the vote in the next election means he is democratic. They are just people under the effect of chronic herd mentality who think with their fist rather than the upper.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by mightyhazel: 4:58pm On Nov 12, 2020
Nchenches:


Nigeria remains the same. You earn N30,000 monthly salary but buy a bag of rice with N38,000. Undefinable economic system in Nigeria.
You think you are punishing the Igbos.
This information is too valuable to throw to pigs.. pls let them wallow
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nsiba: 5:02pm On Nov 12, 2020
StrongInBed:


He is far greater than even the god you believe.
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When you eat sh-it that's why won't u talk sh-it
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by StrongInBed: 5:08pm On Nov 12, 2020
nsiba:
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When you eat sh-it that's why won't u talk sh-it

you papa left ball.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by yaki84: 5:09pm On Nov 12, 2020
Eastlink:
It’s not about who dey east, the question is are you willing to allow the Igbos fly as Presidential aspirants of the two major parties?I know you would want to bring reasons to why it wont fly. Yet, it flew for others when circumstances stood against them. What is good for the gander is good for the goods? If Nigerians can do it for the SW to alleviate the June 12 disturbances, regardless of how you see it, use the same politiking for the SE. This is justice and fairness. The way the politics of this country is tilted, no southerner can emerge President without the north invest in it. You and I know it as gospel truth. The structure of this country is pro-north that only them can win elections even with meagre votes from the south.

For the Igbo nation, there are men and women of capacity that has what it takes to lead this nation. But are you willing to allow them become President? Are you willing to concede fit the sake of unity and allow them fly the two major parties?
Bros am from akwaibom, am not against any tribe calling the shot at the presidency.
It will be nice if an igbo man becomes a president. But if they field okorocha.... I can never vote him. I hate hypocrites....
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Garland007: 5:11pm On Nov 12, 2020
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Nwadiuto247:
PDP will lose a lot of vote in the southeast in 2023 election due to the following.

The 2015 and 2019 voting pattern in the South East was a kind of protest vote against APC who they see as people who cheated Jonathan out of power. With Buhari out of the game in 2023 the voting pattern will change and
PDP will lose a good number of it's voters in the South East to APC.

2. The rumour of killing of igbos in Oyigbo is another factor that has dampen the excitement the south east have about Wike and PDP.

3. The defection of Gov. Umahi to APC will lead to more defection before 2023 and this will affect PDP. Votes in the SE.

The days of 5% APC and 95% PDP in the South East are over.

APC has more visible projects in South East than the PDP but PDP gave South East more appointments than APC so each of the party has something to compaigñ with in the southeast.

The Southeast is now a level playing ground for both parties.
Thank God is just your opinion. (I would have said you should take this your permutation and shove it up your ass, but no because comment with decorum)
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Xexza(m): 5:13pm On Nov 12, 2020
It's funny when people that are not igbo think igbo people really play partisan politics.

Someone can just create an account here with a fake moniker and claim to be from this tribe or the other tribe just to create senseless posts.

I'm here to categorically say that igbos don't care about PDP/APC. They don't care about political parties. They care about the people running for the seats.

It's just a pity that APC has totally lost sympathy in the East. This makes it difficult for anyone in APC to gain support of the igbos - no matter who the person is. To the igbos, if you're good enough, you won't even think of joining APC.

I'm not saying that the igbos will vote PDP either, but they're more likely to vote PDP just to humiliate APC.

Like I said earlier, the igbos don't play partisan politics. That's why they can vote different parties for different seats. And that's why politicians fear them. You're never sure you've won an igbo person to your party; the best you can do is win him/her to your side as a person and not a party.

Igbos don't have kings. Peace be with you.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Eastlink(m): 5:21pm On Nov 12, 2020
yaki84:

Bros am from akwaibom, am not against any tribe calling the shot at the presidency.
It will be nice if an igbo man becomes a president. But if they field okorocha.... I can never vote him. I hate hypocrites....
Supported bro!
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by XANDERO85: 5:26pm On Nov 12, 2020
Cjrane2:
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Useless, unnecessary propaganda!

Igbos massively supported NPN even against their own NPP. Point being that once you don't treat Igbos as second class people like APC has done, they will support you.

APC can dream to Las Vegas that they will claim SE without rigging. Chris Ngige was very very popular in Anambra. Yet, did his defection bring APC to power in Anambra? He couldn't even win under APC, even when people loved him.

Truth is that unless they change their attitude towards Igbos, 20 Umahi defections will change nothing.

BTW, i know APC thinks even without Igbo support they can rule Nigeria. Yes, but ask Buhari how sweet it has been ruling Nigeria while deliberately marginalizing a major ethnic group. So, Igbos could care less if APC rigs itself to power in Abuja. Nigeria will remain exactly as it is today under Buhari and even worse, unless they change their attitude.

Hehehehehe grin grin cheesy
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nsiba: 5:30pm On Nov 12, 2020
StrongInBed:


you papa left ball.
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better pass your papa 0.5inch Pr-ick
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nsiba: 5:35pm On Nov 12, 2020
Eastlink:
I expected your arrival. You no dey use eye see Igbo topic. Hope you’ll bring along the following monikers you use to quote and requote yourself.

1. Osagyefo
2. NnewiSuper
3. Chino
4. Oneeast
5. OkpalaAnambra
6. Melezenawi
7. Arrewa
8. Ekpeitit
9. Nsiba
10. Idenna

And over 100 monikers.
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You this IPOB rat don't you dare mention my name, you de see double or what
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by LegendHero(m): 5:39pm On Nov 12, 2020
Xexza:
It's funny when people that are not igbo think igbo people really play partisan politics.

Someone can just create an account here with a fake moniker and claim to be from this tribe or the other tribe just to create senseless posts.

I'm here to categorically say that igbos don't care about PDP/APC. They don't care about political parties. They care about the people running for the seats.

It's just a pity that APC has totally lost sympathy in the East. This makes it difficult for anyone in APC to gain support of the igbos - no matter who the person is. To the igbos, if you're good enough, you won't even think of joining APC.

I'm not saying that the igbos will vote PDP either, but they're more likely to vote PDP just to humiliate APC.

Like I said earlier, the igbos don't play partisan politics. That's why they can vote different parties for different seats. And that's why politicians fear them. You're never sure you've won an igbo person to your party; the best you can do is win him/her to your side as a person and not a party.

Igbos don't have kings. Peace be with you.

The bolded is the strongest lies ever told by humankind.

There is only one major tribe that care about political parties in Nigeria and those are the IBOs.

Ibos don’t vote personality, they vote parties. Check your history well and you will understand what I’m saying.

They even failed to vote Ojukwu multiple times because he is not PDP. If Igbo vote personalities, Ojukwu would have been the litmus test.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by DMerciful(m): 5:41pm On Nov 12, 2020
That aside, it seems we do not know that Nigeria is in a terrible place and its gonna get worse from all indications. We need to restructure Nigeria and forget about APC and PDP, SE bs SW supremacy. There is fire on the mountain!
Positivepoint:



Well yes it came from ur heart thus dominating all discussion both on and offline in ur areas.

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