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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 11:23am On Dec 15, 2020
Emusan:


It changes the fact that He gave EVERYTHING UP to take HUMAN NATURE

Gave up everything , stupid man.. tomorrow he will say he is God in human form.



while in human nature He still remains OBEDIENT.

Get that into your empty skull.

And he was exalted for that obedience, which means without that obedience, he won't get anything. So much for ownership
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:28am On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:
Gave up everything , stupid man.. tomorrow he will say he is God in human form.

See oponu idiotic boy...

See him confusing with nature.

And he was exalted for that obedience, which means without that obedience, he won't get anything. So much for ownership

Ode....

To you isn't Jesus the first CREATED being.

What position can he be exalted to, that is higher than being the first created?

No wonder I do say, the day you'll be able to distinguish between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus is the day your delusion will be cured.

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 11:34am On Dec 15, 2020
Emusan:


See oponu idiotic boy...

See him confusing with nature.
Ode....

In short u retract your words, he didn't give up everything, grin grin grin.

To you isn't Jesus the first CREATED being.
What position can he be exalted to, that is higher than being the first created?
No wonder I do say, the day you'll be able to distinguish between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus is the day your delusion will be cured.
The Crux of the matter here is Owner does not need obedience to get anything. Owner does not need to be given Children. It shows nothing belong to him until he was given
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:36am On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:
In short u retract your words, he didn't give up everything, grin grin grin.

Says the deluded JWs!

The Crux of the matter here is Owner does not need obedience to get anything. Owner does not need to be given Children. It shows nothing belong to him until he was given

But ALL THINGS were created by Him and for HIM.

Which makes Him the owner of ALL THINGS.

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 11:41am On Dec 15, 2020
Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs!

But ALL THINGS were created by Him and for HIM.

Which makes Him the owner of ALL THINGS.

Owner that was given Children grin grin grin
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:46am On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


Owner that was given Children grin grin grin


Yes! The children through Salvation He brought but MANKIND belongs to Him as ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him.

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 11:55am On Dec 15, 2020
Emusan:


Yes! The children through Salvation He brought but MANKIND belongs to Him as ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him.

No the children JEHOVAH the owner gave him .
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 12:45pm On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


Show me where Jesus said he have children ?

This is dumb. Wetin make person papa?.....no be wen e get children.

Where u bury ur sens, tell me make we go harvest am from u.


See as Isaiah expose your lies....you have been shamed.

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 12:54pm On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


The idiot can't even deny Jesus was GIVEN, GIVEN, Children grin

Disgrace . So much for ownership


You are just arguing like an idiot. Ode!.....Phil 2:7 says he dropped all he had.

Keep deciding to to see that part of scripture to believe your lies

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 12:55pm On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


If Jesus was there , Explain Romans 8:29 ?

So Jesus is not there but Angels were there abi.....u be goat o......your lies cannot even help you anymore. U r just exposing ur stupidity

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 1:01pm On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


Singular. Beautiful...

You are hanging unto a breaking straw. Sorry hen no go cry ooooooooo

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 1:04pm On Dec 15, 2020
Barristter07:


No the children JEHOVAH the owner gave him .

Ode!!!!!!!..............talking trash since this thread started

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:37pm On Dec 15, 2020
YES Emusan!
He bought obedient mankind with his blood so those who will inherit everlasting life no more relate with God through Adam (our ancestor) by birth but through Jesus (our foster father) by faith!
So originally Jesus wasn't our father but Adam and Adam was God's son {Luke 3:38} Jesus bought us (obedient mankind) with his blood that's what now quantifies him to become the Everlasting Father {Isaiah 9:6} who will never die and return to dust like our original biological father (Adam) 1Corinthians 15:45

Regarding what belongs to Jesus even all the angels in heaven were created through him and for him! Colossians 1:15-16

Emusan:


Yes! The children through Salvation He brought but MANKIND belongs to Him as ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him.
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by achorladey: 7:36pm On Dec 15, 2020
Emusan:


@color See the hypocrisy I'm talking about, the same Barnes you called his authority for fraudulent insertion is the same you called FALSEHOOD in the same breath.

Well that's a typical deluded brainwashed Janosense for you.



Mr JaNosense the royal ranting as usual...


This your post ehn. That all of this commentaries are in their shelves in their HEADQUARTERS where they what they call IMPERFECT SPIRITUAL FOOD comes from. E get as e be

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by achorladey: 7:39pm On Dec 15, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Stephen's eyes were open to see Jehovah and Jesus standing by the right hand of side of God's throne {Act 7:55-56} surely between the two persons he was seeing Stephen could relate with the person he knew face to face than the one no man can see! Exodus 33:20

Stephen knew for sure that the power or energy for all the dead to return back to life (spirit) has been given to Jesus, so he spoke directly to Jesus. But regarding prayer Jesus taught them to pray to his father who is their father and his God who is their God JEHOVAH! John 20:17


You see your COULD. Stephen can't relate with with the ONE he cannot see. Na so speculation and assumptions dey start grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by KNOWMORE56: 8:38pm On Dec 15, 2020
freshboi88:


Your lies are not flying at all.........Wake up the light has just been shown to u. It must really be hard defending the indefensible. Kpele!!!.....U will get old before your time because of too many lies

Iol@
"...U will get old before your time because of too many lies"

Janosky take note, no dey fast forward your old age o
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by livingchrist: 5:29pm On Dec 16, 2020
Barristter07:

Singular " Image " . That of the Father , in which Jesus himself exists.

This is the image of mankind , not Jesus image .

Explain Romans 8:29 ?
And who is that image?
All these Jehovah witness and their retardation is alarming

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 5:51pm On Dec 16, 2020
livingchrist:
And who is that image?
All these Jehovah witness and their retardation is alarming
The invisible God ( the Father )
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 6:00pm On Dec 16, 2020
achorladey:
You see your COULD. Stephen can't relate with with the ONE he cannot see. Na so speculation and assumptions dey start grin cheesy cheesy

Just imagine different delusions in one post.

1. Stephen's eyes were open to see Jehovah and Jesus standing by the right hand of side of God's throne {Act 7:55-56}

2. surely between the two persons he was seeing

3. Stephen COULD relate with the person he knew face to face than the one no man can see! Exodus 33:20 "When he already said: "Stephen's eyes were opened to see JEHOVAH" yet the deluded JWs still goes further to cite a scripture claiming "THE ONE NO MAN CAN SEE"

We can say Stephen is a SPIRIT THEN

4. Stephen knew for sure that the power or energy for all the dead to return back to life (spirit) has been given to Jesus, so he spoke directly to Jesus.

When you realize that prayer is about talking to a being higher than one.

5. But regarding prayer Jesus taught them to pray to his father who is their father and his God who is their God JEHOVAH! John 20:17

When everything has already been handed to Jesus...
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29pm On Dec 16, 2020
That's why i believe in the teachings of JWs with strong conviction!

Ezekiel saw JEHOVAH in a vision just as Stephen also did, Ezekiel was only permitted to see someone sitting on a throne but can't say anything about his face because he wasn't permitted to see God's face just as Moses wasn't permitted to see God's face.

So what Stephen saw was a vision of God's glory [{Act 7:55} depicting Jesus' presence in heaven at God's right hand meaning Jesus' earthly assignment was successful he didn't see God face to face!


Emusan:


Just imagine different delusions in one post.

1. Stephen's eyes were open to see Jehovah and Jesus standing by the right hand of side of God's throne {Act 7:55-56}

2. surely between the two persons he was seeing

3. Stephen COULD relate with the person he knew face to face than the one no man can see! Exodus 33:20 "When he already said: "Stephen's eyes were opened to see JEHOVAH" yet the deluded JWs still goes further to cite a scripture claiming "THE ONE NO MAN CAN SEE"

We can say Stephen is a SPIRIT THEN

4. Stephen knew for sure that the power or energy for all the dead to return back to life (spirit) has been given to Jesus, so he spoke directly to Jesus.

When you realize that prayer is about talking to a being higher than one.

5. But regarding prayer Jesus taught them to pray to his father who is their father and his God who is their God JEHOVAH! John 20:17

When everything has already been handed to Jesus...
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by achorladey: 7:18pm On Dec 16, 2020
Emusan:


Just imagine different delusions in one post.

1. Stephen's eyes were open to see Jehovah and Jesus standing by the right hand of side of God's throne {Act 7:55-56}

2. surely between the two persons he was seeing

3. Stephen COULD relate with the person he knew face to face than the one no man can see! Exodus 33:20 "When he already said: "Stephen's eyes were opened to see JEHOVAH" yet the deluded JWs still goes further to cite a scripture claiming "THE ONE NO MAN CAN SEE"

We can say Stephen is a SPIRIT THEN

4. Stephen knew for sure that the power or energy for all the dead to return back to life (spirit) has been given to Jesus, so he spoke directly to Jesus.

When you realize that prayer is about talking to a being higher than one.

5. But regarding prayer Jesus taught them to pray to his father who is their father and his God who is their God JEHOVAH! John 20:17

When everything has already been handed to Jesus...


The whole thing become serious DELUSION and COMICAL grin grin grin
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 8:36am On Dec 18, 2020
freshboi88:


This is dumb. Wetin make person papa?.....no be wen e get children.

Where u bury ur sens, tell me make we go harvest am from u.


See as Isaiah expose your lies....you have been shamed.

Show me where Jesus said he have children ?

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46am On Dec 18, 2020
No brother he is one of Jesus' children just that himself and the other children elsewhere aren't ORGANIZED and there is nothing like orderliness so they can only claim they're Jesus' children but they're scattered abroad! Luke 11:23

Barristter07:


Show me where Jesus said he have children ?

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 11:53am On Dec 18, 2020
Barristter07:


Show me where Jesus said he have children ?

Be asking mumu question. Isaiah 9:6 have already called him Eternal Father.

To be called a Father, u have children

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by vybzkartel: 12:41pm On Dec 18, 2020
Stephen prayed to Jesus since Jesus is God
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 2:08pm On Dec 18, 2020
freshboi88:


Be asking mumu question. Isaiah 9:6 have already called him Eternal Father.

To be called a Father, u have children
Isaiah 9:6 said SHALL BE CALLED ... Which means he isn't even a Father until he was given Children . The Creator has been a Father right from day 1 of Creation .

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:31pm On Dec 18, 2020
Na wah o! undecided

No wonder you're called "Barrister" abeg you be lawyer?


Barristter07:

Isaiah 9:6 said SHALL BE CALLED ... Which means he isn't even a Father until he was given Children . The Creator has been a Father right from day 1 of Creation ✓

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by freshboi88: 4:24pm On Dec 18, 2020
Barristter07:

Isaiah 9:6 said SHALL BE CALLED ... Which means he isn't even a Father until he was given Children . The Creator has been a Father right from day 1 of Creation .

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born,(A)
to us a son is given,(B)
and the government(C) will be on his shoulders.(D)
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor,(E) Mighty God,(F)
Everlasting(G) Father,(H) Prince of Peace.(I)

Stop fooling yourself.

He child will be called all these because that is who he is. He just accepted to be born a human being.


The Child will be called Everlasting Father. Who is your Everlasting Father according to Isaiah 9:6? Jesus Christ!. Clean clear no arguement. Follow scripture and leave man made doctrine boy.
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Barristter07: 4:42pm On Dec 18, 2020
freshboi88:


Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born,(A)
to us a son is given,(B)
and the government(C) will be on his shoulders.(D)
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor,(E) Mighty God,(F)
Everlasting(G) Father,(H) Prince of Peace.(I)

Stop fooling yourself.

He child will be called all these because that is who he is. He just accepted to be born a human being.


The Child will be called Everlasting Father. Who is your Everlasting Father according to Isaiah 9:6? Jesus Christ!. Clean clear no arguement. Follow scripture and leave man made doctrine boy.


Will be

" used to talk about what is going to happen in the future "

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/will

The Creator is a Father from day one .

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Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:01pm On Dec 18, 2020
Barristter07:


Will be

" used to talk about what is going to happen in the future "

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/will

The Creator is a Father from day one .


Please when did Jesus began counseling people? is it before or after he was born?

When did Jesus started making peace with his preaching? Is it before or after he was born?

Going by the doctrines of Trinitarians that Jesus is Jehovah, Jehovah in the Old Testament never sued for Peace in fact he destroys all the enemies of his people (Israelites) so when exactly did Jesus (Jehovah) became a peaceful preacher {Matthew 5:43-48} before or after he is born as human on earth?

That should solve the issue of when he became the "everlasting father" after all the whole titles were mentioned the same time! smiley
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by vybzkartel: 5:07pm On Dec 18, 2020
MaxInDHouse:


Please when did Jesus began [/b]counseling people? is it before or after he was born?

[b]When did Jesus started
making peace with his preaching? Is it before or after he was born?

Going by the doctrines of Trinitarians that Jesus is Jehovah, Jehovah in the Old Testament never sued for Peace in fact he destroys all the enemies of his people (Israelites) so when exactly did Jesus (Jehovah) became a peaceful preacher {Matthew 5:43-48} before or after he is born as human on earth?

That should solve the issue of when he became the "everlasting father" after all the whole titles were mentioned the same time! smiley


RIP ENGLISH LANGUAGE

So jws don't know grammar too grin
Re: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:26pm On Dec 18, 2020
Go to Chris Okotie, he will teach you grammar. Here we are discussing God's word eloquence has nothing to do with this! Act 4:13 wink

vybzkartel:



RIP ENGLISH LANGUAGE

So jws don't know grammar too grin

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