ublight:

Jesus is not standing at the right hand SIDE. He is at the right hand. There is a difference.

No dey vomit nonsense

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps the hatred you have for the TRUTH will edit all the Bible versions in the world!

Emusan:


Just as your organization lies edited New World Translation.

MaxInDHouse:
What usually confuse misinformed Churchgoers is their so called Trinity dogma. JWs know that Jesus was the person who created everything {Colossians 1:15-16}

but he was acting on the instructions from our grand Creator JEHOVAH!

As a master Craftsman beside his God and Father {Proverbs 8:22-31}

Jesus was receiving instructions on how to go about the work, we can see this at Genesis 1:1-2,

there it was revealed that God's instructions to create the heavens (spirit realm) where his spirit sons (angels) dwells wasn't difficult for Jesus who is also a spirit but when it comes to the creation of physical realms Jesus need to be guided, that's why you'll notice @ Genesis 1:3 that God was given the instructions and after Jesus has done it God still inspects the job! Genesis 1:4,31

So we acknowledge the part Jesus (God's only begotten son) played in all God's work but he is not the Almighty God!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus served as God just as Moses also served {Exodus 7:1 compared to John 1:1} JEHOVAH is the one who went down to deliver the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. But both Pharaoh, his chiefs, Egyptians and all Israelites were seeing Jehovah's representative MOSES.

©Who turned the rod to snake?
©Who turned River Nile's water to blood?
©Who plagued Egypt ten times?
©Who splitted the red Sea?
Well it was JEHOVAH not Moses! Exodus 20:2 compared to John 8:28

So when JEHOVAH bestowed power on Jesus it doesn't make Jesus the Almighty because the true God will forever keep his place and position while his representatives return to their place/position! 1Corinthians 15:27-28

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu!
Someone directly spoke against God's word openly yet you still don't feel remorseful to ask him to keep shut!

God's word said Stephen saw Jesus standing at God's right hand {Act 7:56} your friend said God's word is nonsense simply because of the tradition infused in his brain.

Now i know you don't really worth a response!

MaxInDHouse:
Are you serious or just acting as a miscreant?Who is vomiting nonsense between Luke who recorded the book of Act or Stephen who spoke?
Because it was recorded that the son of man (Jesus) is standing at the right hand of God! Act 7:56

Perhaps the hatred you have for the TRUTH will edit all the Bible versions in the world!

ublight:
if i say this is my right hand man, does it mean that man is standing at my right hand side?

DappaD:


Okay let's use your own logic now. If Jesus is someone's right hand man, doesn't that show that there are two distinct parties involved?

ublight:



hey, the diety of Christ is so simple it will take a numb mind to discredit it.
Go to livingwordmedia.org and help urself.

DappaD:


Jehovah is the source of life. Psalm 36:9, Acts 17:28
He's the originator of the spark of life that makes a human conscious. Genesis 2:7

He is also the Eternal Judge and our Father. Genesis 18:25, Isaiah 33:22, James 4:12
But—Jesus helps us to understand at John 5:22 that his Father and God, Jehovah will do no judging but that authority has been delegated to him, Jesus.

So when Jesus completed his earthly conquest, he said: “All authority has been given me in heaven and earth” Matthew 28:18, see also Philippians 2:9-11
Which means that as Jehovah's subordinate and Servant(Acts 3:13), Jesus is going to rule, judge and act under God's authority because according to him, he cannot do a single thing of his own initiative so he needs a go-ahead from Jehovah before he can do anything. John 8:28

Also part of the privileges granted to him, was the authority to raise dead ones from the Grave.
In fact—while on earth—you can agree that he demonstrated this by restoring the life-force of some who died to their bodies ONLY after praying to his God in heaven. John 11:41-42
So he still has the prerogative as God's Son to rise dead ones in the future. John 5:28-29; 1Thessalonians 4:16
Since Jehovah was the one who gave the keys of death and Grave to Jesus in order to release those who are bound by death. Revelation 1:18
That's why Stephen made that appeal to Jesus for a resurrection in the sight of Jehovah.(Acts 7:59)

Janosky:


You don't even believe Matthew 6:9, "You MUST pray this manner, our Father"

According to your mumu claim, Paul was praying to Roman emperors.

The same Greek 1941 is in Acts 7:59, Acts 25:11,12 ,25.

John 20:17 , Jesus Christ no know 3 pagan spirits devotees DECEIVING themselves
.

MaxInDHouse:
What usually confuse misinformed Churchgoers is their so called Trinity dogma. JWs know that Jesus was the person who created everything {Colossians 1:15-16} but he was acting on the instructions from our grand Creator JEHOVAH!
As a master Craftsman beside his God and Father {Proverbs 8:22-31} Jesus was receiving instructions on how to go about the work, we can see this at Genesis 1:1-2, there it was revealed that God's instructions to create the heavens (spirit realm) where his spirit sons (angels) dwells wasn't difficult for Jesus who is also a spirit but when it comes to the creation of physical realms Jesus need to be guided, that's why you'll notice @ Genesis 1:3 that God was given the instructions and after Jesus has done it God still inspects the job! Genesis 1:4,31

So we acknowledge the part Jesus (God's only begotten son) played in all God's work but he is not the Almighty God!

Janosky:


You don't even believe Matthew 6:9, "You MUST pray this manner, our Father"

According to your mumu claim, Paul was praying to Roman emperors.

The same Greek 1941 is in Acts 7:59, Acts 25:11,12 ,25.

John 20:17 , Jesus Christ no know 3 pagan spirits devotees DECEIVING themselves
.

livingchrist:
why will Jehovah give his glory to another??

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

The book of ecclesiatics clearly attribute the power for recieving the spirit to Jehovah alone why will Jehovah give it to Jesus?

johnw47:


it's "stephen" we are talking about oh confused know nothing janosky, not "paul"

JohnW ignoramus
The same Greek 1941 EPIKALEO is in Acts 7:59, Acts 25:11,12 ,25.

According to your mumu claim, Paul was praying to Roman emperors.

Janosky:

JohnW ignoramus
The same Greek 1941 EPIKALEO is in Acts 7:59, Acts 25:11,12 ,25.

According to your mumu claim, Paul was praying to Roman emperors.

DappaD:


Where did you get the idea that giving authority meant sharing glory?

Of course Moses was the appointed Leader of Israel who had authority from God and acted as mediator between Jehovah and the Israelites but on the issue of whom the Israelites were to worship and render sacred service, there was no question that exclusive devotion was reserved for Jehovah alone.(Exodus 34:14)

Jehovah never shared his glory with Moses even after he was the one(representative) who brought Israel out of Egypt, Jehovah still took all the credit for it because it was only possible through Him. Exodus 20:2

We all know what happened when Moses tried to take credit/glory for the miracle Jehovah performed through Moses at the waters of Meribah. Numbers 20:10 see also Psalm 106:32-33
It was for that reason that Aaron and Moses were prevented from seeing the Promised land. Numbers 20:12

Even after Satan tried to get Jesus to worship him, he still quoted the Law and directed all worship to Jehovah. Matthew 4:10/Deuteronomy 6:13
Jesus never for once took credit for anything he did. He always directed attention to his Father and God on all occasions. Mark 10:18
So know that authority that was given to Jesus did not mean that Jehovah shared his glory with him since Jesus knew already that it was his Father who made it possible and that he was going to hand over back that authority to his Father, Jehovah. 1Corinthians 15:24-28

livingchrist:
moses never bear any of Jehovah's titles neither did anyone prayed to moses like Stephen prayed to Jesus.
The Spirit returns to God, not a representative but God himself.
Jesus is prayed to, and is worshipped by men and Angels plus the fact that all of Jehovah works are attributed to him.
You dont know what you are saying, All the glory, honor, power and majesty that Jehovah had is also for Jesus.
John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Jehovah himself credited the glory of creation to Jesus
The glory of creation is fully and completely ascribed to Jesus.
The question remains, if Jesus is not God why will Jehovah share his glory with hin?

johnw47:


oh duh, confused liar fraud janosky
scardy cat, running away from what is said

truly know nothing, only God receives our spirit at death

Act 7:59 While they were stoning Stephen, he prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

LYING Twister
Greek1941 EPIKALEO : Appeal, I call, address..
Biblehub Screenshot says you're LYING clown

DappaD:


Your question has been fully answered. I will be no part of your derailment to other topics, I've answered your question and that's it.

Janosky:


LYING Twister
Greek1941 EPIKALEO : Appeal, I call, address..
Biblehub Screenshot says you're LYING clown

Matthew 28:18 , John 17:2-3 according to Jesus, who gave Jesus that authority to give life to the dead ?

Bros, your Father delegates you authority to do business in his name (John 5:43), JohnW begins to DECEIVE himself , for him mind he is the Chief Executive Officer.
ole buruku ole oshi

Janosky:


LYING Twister
Greek1941 EPIKALEO : Appeal, I call, address..
Biblehub Screenshot says you're LYING clown

Matthew 28:18 , John 17:2-3 according to Jesus, who gave Jesus that authority to give life to the dead ?

Bros, your Father delegates you authority to do business in his name (John 5:43), JohnW begins to DECEIVE himself , for him mind he is the Chief Executive Officer.
ole buruku ole oshi

johnw47:


[s]fraud janosky, you "The" liar with a capital "T" go from thread to thread
shouting out "LIAR" to christians everywhere, it shows who you are,
just like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.[/s]

Janosky:


I dey pity for your wife. She done see chin chum taya.
You're LYING about EPIKALEO, you dey form Jackie Chang
Continue typing GIBBERISH

livingchrist:
you didn't, you couldnt explain
1a. why Stephen prayed to Jesus
1b. to recieve his Spirit instead of Jehovah and
2.the fact that Jesus shared Jehovah's glory

DappaD:


Jehovah is the source of life. Psalm 36:9, Acts 17:28
He's the originator of the spark of life that makes a human conscious. Genesis 2:7

He is also the Eternal Judge and our Father. Genesis 18:25, Isaiah 33:22, James 4:12
But—Jesus helps us to understand at John 5:22 that his Father and God, Jehovah will do no judging but that authority has been delegated to him, Jesus.

So when Jesus completed his earthly conquest, he said: “All authority has been given me in heaven and earth” Matthew 28:18, see also Philippians 2:9-11
Which means that as Jehovah's subordinate and Servant(Acts 3:13), Jesus is going to rule, judge and act under God's authority because according to him, he cannot do a single thing of his own initiative so he needs a go-ahead from Jehovah before he can do anything. John 8:28

Also part of the privileges granted to him, was the authority to raise dead ones from the Grave.
In fact—while on earth—you can agree that he demonstrated this by restoring the life-force of some who died to their bodies ONLY after praying to his God in heaven. John 11:41-42
So he still has the prerogative as God's Son to rise dead ones in the future. John 5:28-29; 1Thessalonians 4:16
Since Jehovah was the one who gave the keys of death and Grave to Jesus in order to release those who are bound by death. Revelation 1:18
That's why Stephen made that appeal to Jesus for a resurrection in the sight of Jehovah.(Acts 7:59)

DappaD:


Where did you get the idea that giving authority meant sharing glory?

Of course Moses was the appointed Leader of Israel who was given authority from God and acted as mediator between Jehovah and the Israelites but on the issue of whom the Israelites were to worship and render sacred service, there was no question that exclusive devotion was reserved for Jehovah alone.(Exodus 34:14)

Jehovah never shared his glory with Moses even after he was the one(representative) who brought Israel out of Egypt, Jehovah still took all the credit for it because it was only possible through Him. Exodus 20:2

We all know what happened when Moses tried to take credit/glory for the miracle Jehovah performed through Moses at the waters of Meribah. Numbers 20:10 see also Psalm 106:32-33
It was for that reason that Aaron and Moses were prevented from entering the Promised land. Numbers 20:12

Even after Satan tried to get Jesus to worship him, he still quoted the Law and directed all worship to Jehovah. Matthew 4:10/Deuteronomy 6:13
Jesus never for once took credit for anything he did. He always directed attention to his Father and God on all occasions. Mark 10:18
So know that authority that was given to Jesus did not mean that Jehovah shared his glory with him since Jesus knew already that it was his Father who made it possible and that he was going to hand over back that authority to his Father, Jehovah. 1Corinthians 15:24-28

livingchrist:
you dont know how dumb you sound, by Stephen commiting his Spirit to Jesus he gave Jehovah's glory to Jesus.