Janosky:

Drop off your claim in the dustbin.
John 17:1-3, according to Jesus Christ

Everyone knows that Yahweh delivered Israel from Egyptian bondage.
Your claim is akin to saying that Moses is God Almighty ,na him rod open the Red Sea.

DappaD:


1a. Stephen never prayed to Jesus. The normal Greek word for “pray” is προσεύχεσθε/proseuchesthe
Acts 7:59 didn't use this word, like you make it seem. There says that Stephen “called upon” or “made an appeal” to Jesus. The Greek word that was used here was ἐπικαλούμενον/epikaloumenon

livingchrist:
this is incoherent, moses asked God what to do and God told him.
The Israelites never told moses to save them unlike Stephen that prayed to Jesus to recieve his spirit.

johnw47:

it doesn't matter what greek word is used,
stephen on earth dying and asking the Lord Jesus in heaven to receive his spirit, is praying to Lord Jesus
just like asking Father God for something is praying to Father God,
praying to God = talking to God
part of praying to God is to supplicate - to ask:

prayed
προσεύχομαι
proseuchomai
pros-yoo'-khom-ahee
to pray to God, that is, supplicate, worship: - pray (X earnestly, for), make prayer.

and i'm sure stephen was earnest in his prayer request

oh duh you false jw's are twisters/liars

LYING clown like his Trinitarian mentors.
JohnW Fraud .Your Bible says your claim DUBIOUS.
Acts 1:23, 2:21,4:36, 7:59 have nailed you Trinitarian adherents, 3 pagan spirits devotees.
I will save this post for you. let me see you repeat GIBBERISH .
JohnW FRAUD for sure

Janosky:

LYING clown like his Trinitarian mentors.
JohnW Fraud .Your Bible says your claim DUBIOUS.
Acts 1:23, 2:21,4:36, 7:59 have nailed you Trinitarian adherents, 3 pagan spirits devotees.
I will save this post for you. let me see you repeat GIBBERISH .
JohnW FRAUD for sure

Acts 1:23 So they proposed two, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was called (epeklēthē | ἐπεκλήθη | aor pass ind 3 sg) Justus), and Matthias.

Acts 2:21 And it shall be that everyone who calls (epikalesētai | ἐπικαλέσηται | aor mid subj 3 sg) upon the name of the Lord will be saved.’

Acts 4:36 And Joseph, who was surnamed (epiklētheis | ἐπικληθείς | aor pass ptcp nom sg masc) Barnabas by the apostles (when translated means, “Son of Encouragement”), a Levite, a Cypriot by race,

Acts 7:59 They kept stoning Stephen as he was calling (epikaloumenon | ἐπικαλούμενον

Source: billmounce.com

Janosky:

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Emusan:


They stoned Stephen, invoking, or calling upon, and saying, Lord Jesus," etc. That is, he was engaged "in prayer" to the Lord Jesus. The word is used to express "prayer" in the following, among other places: 2 Corinthians 1:23, "I call God to witness"; 1 Peter 1:17, "And if ye call on the Father," etc.; Acts 2:21, "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord," etc.; Acts 9:14; Acts 22:16; Romans 10:12-14. This was, therefore, an act of worship; a solemn invocation of the Lord Jesus, in the most interesting circumstances in which a man can be placed - in his dying moments." ----ALBERT BARNES NOTE
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According to Mr LIENUS & Mr Barnes, Jesus is God the Father they pray to.
@ Matthew 6:9, the injunction for praying ;
"Our Father who art in heaven"
No dey Mr LIENUS Bible
Mr LIENUS & Barnes FALSELY claim @ Acts 7:59 means that @Acts25:11,12,25 ,Paul was praying to Roman emperors.
Greek 1941 EPIKALEO is the same meaning.
Not prayer to Jesus.

Who was your Almighty God Jesus praying to?

Emusan:


@color See the hypocrisy I'm talking about, the same Barnes you called his authority for fraudulent insertion is the same you called FALSEHOOD in the same breath.

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Mr LIENUS in sifia pains..
The word "God" is NOT in Acts7:59, cry me a river.
Mr Barnes said so.
When Messi play ball go over the bar , make we lie say him score goal?
Mr LIENUS, slave to eye service

Janosky:



Who told Jesus to redeem people?
Who told Jesus to give life to the dead like Stephen?

Janosky:
[s]According to Mr LIENUS & Mr Barnes, Jesus is God the Father they pray to.
@ Matthew 6:9, the injunction for praying ;
"Our Father who art in heaven"
No dey Mr LIENUS Bible [/s]

Who was your Almighty God Jesus praying to?

Mr LIENUS in sifia pains..
The word "God" is NOT in Acts7:59, cry me a river.
Mr Barnes said so.
When Messi play ball go over the bar , make we lie say him score goal?
Mr LIENUS, slave to eye service
..

livingchrist:
the issue is not who told Jesus but that Jesus was was prayed to like Jehovah.
In the old testament people didnt call on moses name but on Jehovah but in the new testament people called on Jesus name and no longer on Jehovah.

Janosky:



John 20:17& Matthews 6:9 , You MUST pray in this manner: Our Father in heaven...."
Emphasis on "MUST" & " Our Father in heaven".

Jesus Christ shame the 3 pagan spirits devotees worshippers on this thread.

johnw47:


^^ just yet another instance of showing that God and the Word is God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

AntiChristian:


How does "word" or "logos" mean Jesus in Greek lexicon?

livingchrist:
let us be clear here, Are you saying Jehovah did not create the heavens and the earth by himself?

DappaD:


The bolded is a misconception. Because Peter and Paul said quoted Joel 2:32 which said: “And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved” Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13

MaxInDHouse:
I'm the landlord of my duplex so everyone in the estate knew it belongs to me, my name is written in all the documents, yet i employed worker to do the work i only instruct them on how i want my house to be.
So "i built my house all by myself" doesn't mean there was no Craftsman Sir {Proverbs 8:30} it simply means i'm the brain behind it!

livingchrist:
owning a house and instructing people on how to build your house , having your name written on the document does not translate to building your house by yourself.

Note the whole creation was created for Jesus also and for a fact Jesus is also the owner of all things.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

livingchrist:

God alone actually created things by himself with no other being WITH him.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not doubting the fact that Jesus created everything else, Verse 15 says "Jesus is the image of God (just like Adam) and the FIRST BORN of all creation" compared to Proverbs 8:22

So evidently Jesus was the only creature God made by himself that's why he is called God's only begotten SON {John 3:16; 1John 49} God has many sons {Genesis 6:1; Job 1:6} but all of them came through the handwork of his first born whom he created alone!

Please we've been through this countless times so if you feel you know better, go out there preach and teach those who listen to you just make sure a family of Peace loving worshipers is formed {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that's the purpose of Jesus' work, God is about to destroy all enemies of Peace {Psalms 37:9-11} so what really matters is a global family of peace loving worshipers not worthless arguments of no benefits! Titus 3:9

MaxInDHouse:
When you are out there preaching and teaching as Jesus commanded! Matthew 28:19-20

You and i don't need to continue arguments on this try to explain what this scriptures {Proverbs 8:22-31 compared to John 1:1-2} are saying in plain terms to convince your listener about the highlighted!
It was clearly written that someone was WITH someone!

ublight:


u are a blind man
my emphasis was d word SIDE

livingchrist:
John 1:1-2 first of all the word was God according to John 1vv1 not a God, this is plain and enough to convince the listener that the person with Jehovah is Jehovah also, so no other being was with him.

let us be clear here, Are you saying Jehovah did not create the heavens and the earth by himself?

livingchrist:
quit perverting God's word. Jesus didnt create everything else rather he made all things.
What is the greek word used for first born? It denotes preeminence not created first.
David was called the firstborn king over kings of the earth it doesnt mean david was the first to be king.
Proverb 8vv22, is only a poetry it does not literally mean God created wisdom.
That is the reason why the word possessed was used
The second line of proverb 8 vv22 made the first line very clear by saying was ordained from eternity.

your submission is contradicting to Isaiah, job , John and paul's teachings.
Jehovah formed the heavens alone, he did it himself means he did not instruct another person to carry out the action, John said nothing that was created could exist without Jesus meaning Jesus was never created.

It is you jws that loves argument, are you not the one who quoted me, looking for argument?
Peace in deed, just like islam is peaceful right?

freshboi88:


Your lies are not flying at all.........Wake up the light has just been shown to u. It must really be hard defending the indefensible. Kpele!!!.....U will get old before your time because of too many lies

Janosky:


Albert Barnes 2nd quote is FALSEHOOD.

Greek 1941 in Acts 25:11,12,25 , in Acts7:59, according to Emusan LIENUS & Albert Barnes , Paul is praying to Roman emperors


Mr LIENUS, is the first born of every child, still a child?
Jesus the first born of every creature is himself a creature, he came through his Father. Romans 11:35-36 immutable.
Colossians 1:16, JWs are correct joor.


John 20:17, Jesus answered:"I am ascending to my God and your God"
Mathew6:9 "You MUST pray this way:
Our Father who art in heaven"
Mr LIENUS, go figure the meaning of MUST...

Colossians 1:3
"We ALWAYS THANK GOD, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Ephesians 3:14-21,Bros, go and learn to RECEIVE SENSE .

STEPHEN did NOT, was NOT praying to Jesus.
Paul and Jesus confirmed you 3 pagan spirits devotees are LIARS. :[/b]D


[b]Mr LIENUS, Romans 10:13 is quote of Joel 2:32, "anyone who calls on the name of Yahweh", is Jesus his Father Yahweh he prayed to ?


Your Almighty God wey dey obey Command:
"Sit at my right hand "
Bible confirmed your Almighty God get him God and Father in heaven.
Even your Almighty God Jesus confirmed himself get him God in heaven, "my God,my God why have you forsaken us?"

Janosky:



John 20:17& Matthews 6:9 , You MUST pray in this manner: Our Father in heaven...."
Emphasis on "MUST" & " Our Father in heaven".

Jesus Christ shame the 3 pagan spirits devotees worshippers on this thread.

Emusan:


No wonder your organization have to fraudulently inserted the word OTHER in that Colossians 1:15-16.

because Jesus will be the one who created himself.



Then Jehohav is lying here "CEB: The Lord your redeemer who formed you in the womb says: I am the Lord, the maker of all, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF"



Even in the same Proverbs God never says He used anybody to create the universe rather the same proverbs still supports the Isaiah that God created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF.

I was there when THE LORD put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with HIM when HE placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when HE set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when HE laid foundations to support the earth.



See delusions, where in that Genesis 1 it was stated that Jesus was receiving instructions to create things

That's just the figment of imagination of your lying mouth organization.



This scripture "CEB: The Lord your redeemer who formed you in the womb says: I am the Lord, the maker of all, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF" proofs beyond reasonable doubt that, these are just scriptures twisting because God created EVERYTHING ALONE and by HIMSELF.



To acknowledge this part means you agree that Jesus is Jehovah because JEHOVAH CREATED ALL THINGS ALONE and by HIMSELF.

I know this scriptural truth will be peppering your body now!

Adsexpert:
We pray to God through Jesus Christ our Lord

MaxInDHouse:
I'm the landlord of my duplex so everyone in the estate knew it belongs to me, my name is written in all the documents, yet i employed worker to do the work i only instruct them on how i want my house to be.
So "i built my house all by myself" doesn't mean there was no Craftsman Sir {Proverbs 8:30} it simply means i'm the brain behind it!