Barristter07:




Col 1:16 said through him


So if something doesn't come through him, but the Father , it doesn't apply .

no were is it written that anything was made through the father.

DappaD:


Calm down. Jehovah promised Phinehas son of Eleazar an EVERLASTING PRIESTHOOD. Numbers 25:13
That is, Phinehas and his offspring were to carry out priestly duties FOREVER.
But wasn't that arrangement discontinued when the Greater High Priest, Jesus Christ came on the scene? Hebrews 6:20
The priesthood of Aaron, Eleazar, Phinehas and others served their purpose but the arrangement had to be changed to fit the one who was coming after them. Deuteronomy 18:15,18
It's the same with Jesus Christ. His Kingdom is everlasting in the sense that it will fully serve its purpose during his 1,000year rule(Rev 20:4-6), before he hands it over back to his Father, Jehovah. 1Corinthians 15:24-28

The explicitly said that Jesus kingdom will have no end. Luke 1:33

livingchrist:

The explicitly said that Jesus kingdom will have no end. Luke 1:33

Matthew 6:10, according to Jesus Christ, whose Kingdom?

1 Chronicles 29:23
"And Solomon sat on the throne of Jehovah as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him."

The throne of David which Jesus will inherit @Luke1:33 & Revelation 3:21 is whose Kingdom?

Bros, why do you love to argue blindly?

livingchrist:
no were is it written that anything was made through the father.

Romans 11:35-36 What was made through the Father?

The first born of every creature ....

livingchrist:

The explicitly said that Jesus kingdom will have no end. Luke 1:33

Expand that Luke 1:31-33 well
It says that Jehovah will give him a “Kingdom”? That is, Jesus being the one having legal right to be the prominent Heir(Ezekiel 21:27), therefore once Jesus Christ has completed his assignment he will hand over that “Kingdom” to his Father who gave it to him in the first place. 1Corinthians 15:24-28

This never-ending cycle of arguments is just a result of you cherrypicking scriptures and refusing to accept that other parts of the Bible contribute to the overall theme of what God's Kingdom is.

freshboi88:


The Father gave him what was his already that he dropped....Phil 2:7

Remember.....#Whatever the Father has is mine.


Ur lies cannot take this out of scripture
Ode!!!!!!

The Father gave him everything Matt 11:27

In fact all things came from the Father . Without the Father, Jesus has nothing,nobody is Jesus children but the Father. That's ownership

Emusan:


See the idiot jumping from pillar to post.

It's no longer Seth.

But you're using Seth analogy, so it doesn't favor you and you have to switch gear again. Ode....

Then the Father is also produced.

Let create man in OUR IMAGE.



Clown!

Not Seth again now jumping to Adam.

Jesus didn't exist in anybody image Rather HE IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Pulling out more lies to cover up lies.

I'm still waiting for where it is stated that Jesus was MADE in the image of God.



Coin another word to continue to pull more watchtower lies.

They are the same BEING.

You look up the sky you say you see sun.

Meanwhile, you can't see the gases burning what you see is just the flame of the burning gases which you still call sun.

You even refer to the Heat which you feel from the burning gases as Sun.

The Father = Gases (you can't see with your naked eyes.
The Son = Burning Flame

The Holy Spirit = The Heat

Yet all these three coexist at one but you still refer to each separate as SUN.

ALL THINGS come through the Father and ALL THINGS come through the Son says the Holy scripture.

ALL THINGS (the power of the gases) come from the Father and the same ALL THINGS (power of the gases in flame) come through the Son.

It was a lying liar mouth like you who try to inject two different meanings into that.

@Bold , Wahala for who no know bible

Colosians 1:15 " The Image OF the invisible God [the Father ] , the firstborn of all creation"

" OF " means belonging to . Whose image you belong indicates your maker , Just as Man in God's image make them SONS of the Most High. Just as Seth in Adams image make Adam his Father , Jesus is God's created property. He belongs to him.

DappaD:


Oh so you've found where the Bible said, in paraphrased words, “All things came FROM Jesus”? Do share.

livingchrist:
no were is it written that anything was made through the father.

But you admitted Hebrews 2:10 was a reference to the Father , u even in a recent post Said

livingchrist
Roman 11vv36 applies both to the father, son and holy spirit.

Shifting shadows always, very unstable human
Which means John 1:3 does not apply to what came through the Father.

freshboi88:


The Father gave him what was his already that he dropped....Phil 2:7

Remember.....#Whatever the Father has is mine.


Ur lies cannot take this out of scripture
Ode!!!!!!

Phil 2:8 would have cured you

" He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death "

He was rewarded for his obedience. If he wasn't obedient he won't get it. That's not ownership, when you have to BE OBEDIENT to get something, it means someone else have the power. For how long will you find it hard to comprehend this ?

Emusan:


Jesus is the very IMAGE of God

Of the invisible God [the Father ] , belong to his Creator.

Lying liar I'm still waiting for you to provide where it is written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

N9 how you people won't lie just to keep living in your delusions.

Jesus is the source of creation and the Creator.

But ALL THINGS that come from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through the son.

Yet Jesus is from everlasting which is a place of eternity. Ode...



See oponu radarada!

Does a man and a woman become twins before they can come together to produce ONE THING?

The man and woman automatically own the child, But Jesus doesn't own anyone , neither is anyone is son or his image, yet you still using this analogy that exposed you ?

BUT it says THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS came.

So the ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that came THROUGH the Son.

Not from whom all things came . Good

The All things doesn't apply to what came through the Father. They are different persons , what is the all things that came through the Father ? (All the while you are using a same person fallacy, cos same nature has been debunked since humans have that promise to share that very same nature yet doesn't make all things came through them, you are automatically bestowing what came through them as the same on the basis of nature. But your foolery was caught )

Barristter07:


But you admitted Hebrews 2:10 was a reference to the Father , u even in a recent post Said


Shifting shadows always, very unstable human
Which means John 1:3 does not apply to what came through the Father.

Hebrews 2vv10 did not say all things was created through the father.

livingchrist:
Hebrews 2vv10 did not say all things was created through the father.

Oya quote it . Liar

Barristter07:


Oya quote it . Liar

Hebrews 2:10
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Lets see who is the liar, where is the All things were created through the father here

livingchrist:


Hebrews 2:10
For it became him, for whom are all things, and BY whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Lets see who is the liar, where is the All things were created through the father here

If your head can't process the highlight, you are an hopeless case. " By " and " Through " means the same thing. It was the Father that made Esus perfect through suffering

So what came through the Father ?

Barristter07:
@Bold , Wahala for who no know bible

Colosians 1:15 " The Image OF the invisible God [the Father ] , the firstborn of all creation"

[s]" OF " means belonging to . Whose image you belong indicates your maker , Just as Man in God's image make them SONS of the Most High. Just as Seth in Adams image make Adam his Father , Jesus is God's created property. He belongs to him.[/s]

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Let US create man in OUR (PLURAL) IMAGE(singular)

You're still lying as you can't provide the scripture where it was stated that Jesus EXIST/WAS MADE in the image of God.

Until then all your Mumbo jumbo will be strike.

Barristter07:
Of the invisible God [the Father ] , belong to his Creator.

THE VERY IMAGE...

The man and woman automatically own the child, But Jesus doesn't own anyone , neither is anyone is son or his image, yet you still using this analogy that exposed you ?

The fact is Man and Woman produce ONE THING. Which means ALL THING can come from the Father and Through the Son at the same time.

Oponu....no one was Jesus image yet Genesis says "Let Us create man in OUR(plural) IMAGE(singular)"

Which means Man was created in the IMAGE of Jesus too.

Not from whom all things came . Good

The All things doesn't apply to what came through the Father. They are different persons , what is the all things that came through the Father ? (All the while you are using a same person fallacy, cos same nature has been debunked since humans have that promise to share that very same nature yet doesn't make all things came through them, you are automatically bestowing what came through them as the same on the basis of nature. But your foolery was caught )

The ALL THINGS that came through the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

The Father and the Son are of the same being....

Emusan:


THE VERY IMAGE...

" OF " means belong to another.

The fact is Man and Woman produce ONE THING. Which means ALL THING can come from the Father and Through the Son at the same time.

Wrong , If it comes same time both would have been PARENTS.

Jesus is OUR brother , A Son like everyone else.

" FIRSTBORN among many brothers " Romans 8:29

Oponu....no one was Jesus image yet Genesis says "Let Us create man in OUR(plural) IMAGE(singular)"

Which means Man was created in the IMAGE of Jesus too.

Image ( singular) bravo!! Good point , because the same Image still Belong to ONE PERSON , the Father , whose image Jesus exist . So Adam existed in the Image of God (The Father ) . That's why he is called Son of God not Son of Jesus.
If Jesus has a separate Image it would have been, make man in OUR IMAGES.

No man was created in Jesus image

Romans 9:8

" BECAUSE Those whom he ( the Father ) gave his first recognition he also foredained TO be PATTERNED after the image of his Son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers "

Notice that ONLY some few were chosen TO BE ( future) patterned after the image of His son, NOT ALL MANKIND. Which means Mankind didn't exist in Jesus image , but even the image of Jesus still belong to the Father. In fact this can only happen because of the Father once again.

Jesus is a property of God like every other person created.

The ALL THINGS that came through the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

The Father and the Son are of the same being ...

They are not the same person. So let's know what came through the Father!

Neither does same nature means Same all things, if true, it means All things come through everyone with God's nature including the humans promised the nature.

Barristter07:
"OF " means belong to another.

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE.

Wrong , If it comes same time both would have been PARENTS.

ONE THING comes from man and woman at the same time.

ALL THINGS are through both the Father and the Son.

Jesus is OUR brother , A Son like everyone else.

Already answered.

"FIRSTBORN among many brothers " Romans 8:29

And I can't see FIRSTCREATED in that verse.

Image ( singular) bravo!! Good point , because the same Image still Belong to ONE PERSON , the Father , whose image Jesus exist. So Adam existed in the Image of God (The Father ) . That's why he is called Son of God not Son of Jesus.
If Jesus has a separate Image it would have been, make man in OUR IMAGES.

No man was created in Jesus image

Keep exposing your ignorance.

The text is "Let US create man in OUR image" which means the IMAGE belongs to the US & OUR.

Oponu radarada....

Still waiting for your lying mouth to provide where it is stated that Jesus was MADE I the image of God.

Romans 9:8

" BECAUSE Those whom he ( the Father ) gave his first recognition he also foredained TO be PATTERNED after the image of his Son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers "

Notice that ONLY some few were chosen TO BE ( future) patterned after the image of His son, NOT ALL MANKIND. Which means Mankind didn't exist in Jesus image , [s]but even the image of Jesus still belong to the Father.[/s] In fact this can only happen because of the Father once again.

But your lying mouth first claimed that Jesus doesn't have image of his own but ONLY EXIST in God's Image.

Now the text says "...after the IMAGE of His Son"

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE

Jesus is a property of God like every other person created.

Jesus is your creator because He created ALL THINGS.

They are not the same person. [s]So let's know what came through the Father![/s]

Then who says they are the same person?

ALL THINGS came through the Father, true or false?

Neither does same nature means Same all things, if true, it means All things come through everyone with God's nature including the humans promised the nature.

Jesus and His Father are of the same nature.

Emusan:


Jesus is the VERY IMAGE.

ONE THING comes from man and woman at the same time.

ALL THINGS are through both the Father and the Son.
Already answered.

And I can't see FIRSTCREATED in that verse.

Image is the prove of his creation ... You are son the one whose image you bear .

Keep exposing your ignorance.

The text is "Let US create man in OUR image" which means the IMAGE belongs to the US & OUR.

Oponu radarada....

Still waiting for your lying mouth to provide where it is stated that Jesus was MADE I the image of God.

He is the IMAGE OF ....

Explain the meaning of " IMAGE OF "

But your lying mouth first claimed that Jesus doesn't have image of his own but ONLY EXIST in God's Image.

Now the text says "...after the IMAGE of His Son"

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE


Jesus is your creator because He created ALL THINGS.

that text didn't say all mankind even have the image of the Son, this prove the Image in Genesis if for the Father. O ma se o

A creator that Is Given Children ? You no well

Then who says they are the same person?

ALL THINGS came through the Father, true or false?


Jesus and His Father are of the same nature.

Just as the little flock going to heaven. All things came through them as well, since nature now means Doing same thing .

Emusan:


Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Let US create man in OUR (PLURAL) IMAGE(singular)

You're still lying as you can't provide the scripture where it was stated that Jesus EXIST/WAS MADE in the image of God.

Until then all your Mumbo jumbo will be strike.

The same place that Emphasis his bearing the image of someone else, also says he is the firstborn of CREATION . Ogbeni.

Image of = God

Firstborn of = his creation.

When God Born, he created .

Barristter07:
The same place that Emphasis his bearing the image of someone else, also says he is the firstborn of CREATION . Ogbeni.

Image of = God

Firstborn of = his creation.

When God Born, he created .

Let US create man in OUR image

Jesus has an IMAGE, which exposed your lying mouth that no one was created in the image of Jesus.

And the same Romans 8:29 you quoted proves that you're a liar as Jesus has an IMAGE of HIS OWN.

Emusan:


Let US create man in OUR image

Jesus has an IMAGE, which exposed your lying mouth that no one was created in the image of Jesus.

And the same Romans 8:29 you quoted proves that you're a liar as Jesus has an IMAGE of HIS OWN .

All mankind ? Mumu

Jesus Image is still the image of the invisible God , the image all humans bear .

You should be ashamed, the same all things for the Father is the same all things for the son, BUT NONE OF MANKIND has the image of Jesus . Until a time the Father permits for a few to do so. ..

Genesis said let's make Mankind in our imge , but is Jesus image for all mankind ? Romans prove your Genesis theory wrong

Barristter07:
All mankind ? Mumu

Jesus Image is still the image of the invisible God , the image all humans bear .

You should be ashamed, the same all things for the Father is the same all things for the son, BUT NONE OF MANKIND has the image of Jesus . Until a time the Father permits for a few to do so. ..

Genesis said let's make Mankind in our imge , but is Jesus image for all mankind ? Romans prove your Genesis theory wrong

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Jesus is the very IMAGE OF GOD which means Jesus image is the one mankind was created after.

Emusan:


Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Jesus is the very IMAGE OF GOD which means Jesus image is the one mankind was created after .

Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Barristter07:


If your head can't process the highlight, you are an hopeless case. " By " and " Through " means the same thing. It was the Father that made Esus perfect through suffering

So what came through the Father ?

empty vessel makes the loudest noise, show me where it said all things came through the father.
When a fool has nothing to say he result to insult.

Barristter07:


Phil 2:8 would have cured you

" He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death "

He was rewarded for his obedience. If he wasn't obedient he won't get it. That's not ownership, when you have to BE OBEDIENT to get something, it means someone else have the power. For how long will you find it hard to comprehend this ?

Somebody willingly gave up his glory by emptying himself. And became a servant. Will he not be subject to obedience to God like every other servant of God. Didn't u see he humbled himself there. Y r u guys blind to the truth

Barristter07:


The Father gave him everything Matt 11:27

In fact all things came from the Father . Without the Father, Jesus has nothing,nobody is Jesus children but the Father. That's ownership

The glory he shared with the Father was not given. If it was he wouldn't have an everlasting reign. He wouldn't be called the everlasting Father.

If Jesus doesn't have children, y did Isaiah call him the Everlasting Father?....den dey see papa way no get children

DappaD:




I'm done with your bickering, young man.

When I have finished u, u want to run....There's no where to run old man

All these is written in the Bible so everyone can read it, what remains now is IDENTIFYING the group of Worshipers today who are also humbly obedient to the same God like God's people always do in ancient times!

Nobody disputes the fact that Jesus became like a servant to teach his followers how to humbly worship God to gain approval.

freshboi88:


Somebody willingly gave up his glory by emptying himself. And became a servant. [highlight]Will he not be subject to obedience to God like every other servant of God[/b]. Didn't u see he humbled himself there. Y r u guys blind to the truth

Glory shared doesn't implies that he is the same person with whom he shared glory nah!

On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as the President of America his wife and children will be televised alongside him, that's the glory we are talking about. Whoever dishonour the wife, son or daughter of the President will be dealt with severely as someone who dishonour the Presidency as a whole.
But when it comes to the person in charge of executive arm of government everyone knows that's the duty of the President himself.
Jesus was given the authority to handle the affairs of humans not before he came down but after he has passed all the test to prove that he is qualified to rule {Matthew 28:18} after his 1,000 years reign he must step down for the person who gave him the authority {1Corinthians 15:26-28}
Jesus gained the Everlasting Father title because Adam our first father is dead, he supposed to be the only person who will connect all his descendants to his God and Father but he rebelled and lost the privilege. Jesus stepped in and performed excellently that's why he could be fittingly called LAST ADAM! 1Corinthians 15:45

Everyone knows that Adam was our first Father who brought sin and death upon his children {Romans 5:12} certainly whoever is compared to Adam can't be our God but the one who will lead us to our Grand Father (God)! John 20:17

freshboi88:


The glory he shared with the Father was not given. If it was he wouldn't have an everlasting reign. He wouldn't be called the everlasting Father.

If Jesus doesn't have children, y did Isaiah call him the Everlasting Father?....den dey see papa way no get children