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Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Bnladan(m): 6:19pm On Nov 22
Juliusmalema:


The words of sinner are like filthy rag before God. You don't claim you know God more than others. God said I am the one who sees the heart and conscience of men.

It is God who knows and not you. stop ascribing to yourself the position of God.
I repeat it again "I know God better than u" or any lost soul who has 3 Gods or more.

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Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkie: 6:36pm On Nov 22
Akube1z:
How should we relate with the unbelievers.
The unbelievers are those who practice other religions aside Christainity and those who don't believe in Jesus Christ and God. It best we relate cautiously and firmly with the unbelievers so we don't get confused or convinced in sinning against God or engaging in unholy acts.

How best should we relate with the unbelievers in our working places / places we find ourselves in ?
How did Jesus Christ relate to the sinners and unbelievers in His time and day?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by kareemkamil(m): 8:55pm On Nov 22
Who told you Christian's are believer. Christian's know how to condone there self's. Hell are waiting you people remain adamant to serve God
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Starkizito(m): 9:11pm On Nov 22
danyero:
What is loving about a god who kills babies and children, condones slavery and rape, and creates a place of eternal torture?

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.
(Exodus 21:7-11)

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
Leviticus 25:44-46

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

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They warred against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every male. They killed the kings of Midian with the rest of their slain, Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba, the five kings of Midian. And they also killed Balaam the son of Beor with the sword. And the people of Israel took captive the women of Midian and their little ones, and they took as plunder all their cattle, their flocks, and all their goods. All their cities in the places where they lived, and all their encampments, they burned with fire, and took all the spoil and all the plunder, both of man and of beast.
(Numbers 31:7-18)

Bro calms

You only picked the bad part this GREAT GOD also came down and humbled himself to die for you and me...

Why did HE no just kill all of us?He allowed humans to kill HIM so HE could set you free...

What more proof do you want GOD IS LOVE HE'S GREAT AND MERCIFUL...

Ask And beg GOD to interpret HIS powerful words to you so the devil won't mislead you...

When you do bad HE detests it because HE loves us so HE disciplines you/us...

I don't mean to be harsh please no hard feelings don't misunderstand me:

Your father and mother when you disobey at home they ought to discipline you with LOVE,

If they don't then its clear they don't care about you and they don't love you...

You get the point...?

THE GREAT GOD,KING of kings

GOD bless you/us....

Cheers..

Have a good day now..
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by KefeeBRIGHT91(m): 10:04pm On Nov 22
Akube1z:
How should we relate with the unbelievers.
The unbelievers are those who practice other religions aside Christainity and those who don't believe in Jesus Christ and God. It best we relate cautiously and firmly with the unbelievers so we don't get confused or convinced in sinning against God or engaging in unholy acts.

How best should we relate with the unbelievers in our working places / places we find ourselves in ?

That people practice other religions doesn't make them unbelievers. It makes them "non-what you believe", in this case non-christians. They're believers in their own rights. It's funny how humans would be more concerned about religious segregation & discrimination as against Morality & being human, forgetting that we all are HUMAN first before anything else.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 10:36pm On Nov 22
paxonel:
I thought you people say Christians who are not born again are unbelievers?
Christians who are not born again are still believers, as they still possess the gift of Salvation which is eternal life.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 10:37pm On Nov 22
Akube1z:

It's not about scared . it's best we cut ties with unbelievers. if you're not careful and strong in Christ , they could bring you back to sins and unholy life. We can only show to them the love of God or try converting them to Christains .
Jesus Christ never cut ties with unbelievers, and He certainly never told your or anyone to do any such. He is recorded to have spent a lot of His time among the sinners... He did not shove His beliefs at them. neither did He condemn them for their choices in life either.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Teknoteableblog: 10:39pm On Nov 22
toye440:
Lol, Bro am grounded in this faith, and i think i can confidently tell u that the Bible is complete and perfect. About Isaac Asimov Pls read colossians 2 : 8.
Now about no God, haba bros i will prove it to u for free.
oya proove! U can't decieve me am also a christian. Just read that book. Asimov is a christian and wrote hundreds of christian book. Also read science faces GOD in the book of Genesis
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 10:42pm On Nov 22
Juliusmalema:
You sound like an unbelieverEven the bible said " Do not be equally yoked with an unbeliever"
The verse actually goes, "Do not be UNEQUALLY yoked with an unbeliever" and what it really means is that in every one of your dealings with those who don't believe in God, make sure you are on EQUAL Terms ... 50/50 in your every agreement with them.

Definition of on equal terms:
-------as equals : as people with the same rights, privileges and responsibilities
people from different cultures learning to live together on equal terms

Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 10:52pm On Nov 22
Ihedinobi3:
Hey there.
You're exactly right. We ought to be cautious among unbelievers. We must treat them with love and compassion but we are not to put ourselves in spiritual or physical danger from them when we don't need to.
How exactly does one put his/herself in spiritual or physical danger from "them"? Are unbelievers not among the neighbours that Jesus Christ commanded that we love as we love our own selves? Are unbelievers not the neighbours we are to "do unto others as we would like for them to do to us"?
Ihedinobi3:
16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
Matthew 10:16 (NKJV)
You believe the wolves He spoke of were unbelievers? undecided
The "wolves" that eventually came after His sheep were not unbelievers, not according to History. They were the Pharisees, Sadducees, Teachers of the law... the Jews of the time and they were most definitely not unbelievers. undecided
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 10:57pm On Nov 22
sonnie10:
The Bible says do not be unequally yoked with the world.
Your mom primary duty as a Christian is that you have been commissioned preach the gospel and draw men unto him.
Remember what Moses told Joshua, he said “Oh I wish that all might prophet”
"Do not be unequally yoked with the world," when translated, means, "Do be equally yoked with the world."

When you consider the double negative in the first instance, which cancels themselves out, you are left with the second as its meaning and I believe this is what Paul meant when he wrote what he did in that verse, which is famously quoted by those who seek to sow division among God's creation.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 11:00pm On Nov 22
dreality:
You insult all non-Christians as unbelievers but you don't want them to comment. Don't insult so that you won't be insulted
Why feel insulted when one calls you an "unbeliever"? I don't believe in the Muslim God so when a Muslim calls me an "unbeliever" why exactly should I feel insulted by that? undecided
It's the truth, isn't it? What is wrong with that? undecided
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 11:03pm On Nov 22
COLATUNDE:
"Conduct yourself with wisdom in your interactions with outsiders (non-believers), make the most of each opportunity [treating it as something precious]. 6 Let your speech at all times be gracious and pleasant, seasoned with salt, so that you will know how to answer each one [who questions you]" Colossians 4:5
Instead look to Jesus Christ for what to do, not the words of Paul which are not entirely the truth of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ never told His disciples to "comport" themselves when in the presence of unbelievers, and He certainly did not tell them to change their character in any form when in the presence of those who do not believe. undecided
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by paxonel(m): 11:57pm On Nov 22
MISSCONGENIALITY:
What ki d of fish is that? Do I Lok like Chinese you cheesy cheesy
grin
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Judybash93(m): 12:56am On Nov 23
orunto27:
Let them be. If they ask questions from you, answer them without strife. Do not judge anyone and do not covet. Live freely with all, because what is in you as a Believer is mightier and more powerful than whatever is in any Unbeliever.. Happy Sunday.

undecided:-D:-D:-D:-D Wait... You're joking right
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Judybash93(m): 12:59am On Nov 23
toye440:
Psalm 14 : 1, 53 : 1.
The fool says in his heart, there is no God.

Prove it... By the way, how sure are you that your version of God is the right one? At least we have more than 3000 thousand dieties, why should he believe in yours?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Thelife: 6:48am On Nov 23
Kingzeez10:

We're intolerant yet no muslim cause any chaos in your street, we're intolerant yet we didn't bad mouth your religion as you did to ours. Leave Nairaland and check other social media platforms and show me any muslim post that castigate Christians. By now you know that you're the real fool.

smile, what you are doing in borno is not chaos but festival, what you are doing in south Kaduna is a peaceful celebration, hopeless troll, smile, you forget that your religion itself is built on bad mouthing Christianity and Jew, or you need me to educate you on how useless your religion is, smile, you idiot you leave narialand and see how your useless moslom are been disgrace after creating Facebook account claiming to be Christian, smile even your dummy imam don't have work but to castrate Christian so not surprise, they are just as foolish as your gigolo fake prophet momohamed
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kingzeez10: 7:25am On Nov 23
Thelife:


smile, what you are doing in borno is not chaos but festival, what you are doing in south Kaduna is a peaceful celebration, hopeless troll, smile, you forget that your religion itself is built on bad mouthing Christianity and Jew, or you need me to educate you on how useless your religion is, smile, you idiot you leave narialand and see how your useless moslom are been disgrace after creating Facebook account claiming to be Christian, smile even your dummy imam don't have work but to castrate Christian so not surprise, they are just as foolish as your gigolo fake prophet momohamed
You're still a fool kid. Is it only Borno and Southern Kaduna we have Christians? Why Muslims are not causing chaos at other parts of the country.

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Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Thelife: 7:57am On Nov 23
Kingzeez10:

You're still a fool kid. Is it only Borno and Southern Kaduna we have Christians? Why Muslims are not causing chaos at other parts of the country.

your father is still a fool, so borno and southern kaduna is exempted from the country? the idiot ask me to show in where muslom are causing chaos in the street. I did and here he's asking me if the place is the only place in Nigeria

so foolish like your gigolo fake prophet
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Josywhyte: 8:47am On Nov 23
Every christian in this world is a SINNER,even your pastors and GOs. Some unbelievers are more better than most christians. Christians tend to condemn 'unbelievers' thinking they are better than them. Whereas the bible says even 'your righteousness is a filty rag before the Lord'. Love your neighbour as yourself. Christians wey no get orientation na christian be that?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Ihedinobi3: 9:38am On Nov 23
Kobojunkiee:
How exactly does one put his/herself in spiritual or physical danger from "them"? Are unbelievers not among the neighbours that Jesus Christ commanded that we love as we love our own selves? Are unbelievers not the neighbours we are to "do unto others as we would like for them to do to us"?
You believe the wolves He spoke of were unbelievers? undecided
The "wolves" that eventually came after His sheep were not unbelievers, not according to History. They were the Pharisees, Sadducees, Teachers of the law... the Jews of the time and they were most definitely not unbelievers. undecided

Perhaps because you're always hunting for debates and quarrels to get embroiled in, you didn't notice that you and I have discussed before and have a fundamental disagreement about Jesus Christ. I think we have established that you and I cannot agree on almost anything that the Bible teaches - I don't even believe that you are a fellow believer, so it is quite curious that you are attempting to debate a biblical matter with me again. What, I wonder, do you hope to achieve by this?

As for your questions, for the benefit of any readers who want to know the truth...

1. The Lord Jesus taught us to not be too forward with the Truth, so that we would not offend those who don't care for it.

6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Matthew 7:6 (NKJV)

Avoiding giving this offence when it is unnecessary to is godly therefore. If we are not prudent to avoid causing offence unnecessarily, as the Lord Himself says here, we will find ourselves in danger from those that we offend.

Doing our best not to offend others by pushing our beliefs on them when they don't want them can hardly be considered unloving. And I don't see how anyone would think that it is one of those things that you shouldn't do to others if you don't want them to do it to you.

Avoiding offending unbelievers with our biblical beliefs is one thing. The other is that we are to avoid being corrupted morally by them.

33 Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”
1 Corinthians 15:33 (NIV)

The above does not mean that we are to not interact at all with unbelievers, no.

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.
1 Corinthians 5:9-10 (NIV)

We are in the world. This is where our witness for Christ is given. So, trying to avoid all interaction with unbelievers is not only fruitless but also antibiblical. But we are to be careful to avoid being tainted by this world.

27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
James 1:27 (NIV)

So, in addition to not pushing our beliefs on unbelievers to avoid provoking them to physical violence against us, we are also to maintain a spiritual separation from them by not allowing a moral influence on us from them so that we will not be destroyed spiritually by them.

In short, if we are being decent human beings, compassionate and responsible, just as we should ordinarily be, we are fulfilling our duty to unbelievers. But we don't need to be too embracing or intrusive, because either approach will put us in spiritual or physical danger from them.

2. As far as the Bible is concerned, the Pharisees, Sadducees, teachers of the law, and the Jews of the time were all unbelievers, just as much as Gentiles like Pilate were too.

37 Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him.
John 12:37 (NIV)

38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Matthew 12:38-39 (NIV)

46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”
John 5:46-47 (NIV)

In this last passage, the Lord was speaking to the Jewish leaders that came to Him and eventually wanted to murder Him for making Himself equal with God the Father.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by LLMG: 10:18am On Nov 23
Learn to comprehend first before reacting or responding. There are people who attend church regularly, the fact that they attend church regularly those not make them Christians if their way of life falls short of Jesus Christ standard.
paxonel:
Do you think before talking at all?
Do you ever see a Muslim or people practising other religions going to church?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by kingsmaila(m): 10:35am On Nov 23
The Christians believe the Muslims and others are unbelievers and vice versal. We will know the true believers in the here after but think deeply and compare the religion you were born in with others before you call them unbelievers.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by paxonel(m): 1:08pm On Nov 23
LLMG:
Learn to comprehend first before reacting or responding. There are people who attend church regularly, the fact that they attend church regularly those not make them Christians if their way of life falls short of Jesus Christ standard.
do you have any scripture to support this notion of yours?

Contrary to your statement, the bible teaches in

John 3:16 ...whosever believeth should not perish but have everlasting life

What if the person going to church has believed have you ever thought of that?

Because as far as the bible is concern unbelievers are those who do not believe in Christ, example Muslims.
That's why i asked the question have you ever seen a Muslim in church before?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kingzeez10: 1:28pm On Nov 23
Thelife:


your father is still a fool, so borno and southern kaduna is exempted from the country? the idiot ask me to show in where muslom are causing chaos in the street. I did and here he's asking me if the place is the only place in Nigeria

so foolish like your gigolo fake prophet
You're still a fool kiddo. I asked you to show me where Muslims are causing chaos and you showed me 2 states as if that's the only states we have Muslims. I'm very sure you have Muslims in your state or even street why don't you mention it since you're foolish not to know the difference between terrorism and religion. Don't you think that if terrorism is a muslim thing, Muslims should also be terrorising your state to get reward from God too.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by LLMG: 1:29pm On Nov 23
Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23
paxonel:
do you have any scripture to support this notion of yours?

Contrary to your statement, the bible teaches in

John 3:16 ...whosever believeth should not perish but have everlasting life

What if the person going to church has believed have you ever thought of that?

Because as far as the bible is concern unbelievers are those who do not believe in Christ, example Muslims.
That's why i asked the question have you ever seen a Muslim in church before?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by orunto27: 4:58pm On Nov 23
Judybash93:


undecided:-D:-D:-D:-D Wait... You're joking right
.


Is that why you scored me D D D D while I was expecting A A A A. You are a poor Teacher.

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Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by paxonel(m): 5:16am On Nov 24
LLMG:
Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Guy you neglect the purpose which this scripture was written and start thinking it is referring to Christians.

You also neglect the fact that at the time Jesus made this statement there was no Christianity, how then was he referring to Christians?

Some of you, you are making Christianity to be ridiculed by the way you misinterprete bible
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 7:19am On Nov 24
LLMG:
Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23
According to Jesus Christ, all one needs to do is believe to be saved. So long as a person believes that a person is saved and has gained Eternal Life, free and clear -- no revoking of that gift forever.

John 10 vs 22-30 (ERV)
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22. It was winter, and the time came for the Festival of Dedication[b] at Jerusalem.
23. Jesus was in the Temple area at Solomon’s Porch.
24. The Jewish leaders gathered around him. They said, “How long will you make us wonder about you? If you are the Messiah, then tell us clearly.”
25. Jesus answered, “I told you already, but you did not believe. I do miracles in my Father’s name. These miracles show who I am.
26. But you do not believe, because you are not my sheep.
27. My sheep listen to my voice. I know them, and they follow me.
28. I give my sheep eternal life. They will never die, and no one can take them out of my hand.
29. My Father is the one who gave them to me, and he is greater than all.[c] No one can steal my sheep out of his hand.
30. The Father and I are one.”

paxonel:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Guy you neglect the purpose which this scripture was written and start thinking it is referring to Christians.

You also neglect the fact that at the time Jesus made this statement there was no Christianity, how then was he referring to Christians?

Some of you, you are making Christianity to be ridiculed by the way you misinterprete bible
However, not all of those who believe(are saved/have Salvation and are gifted with eternal life) will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

John 5 vs 22-30 (ERV)
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22. “Also, the Father judges no one. He has given the Son power to do all the judging.
23. God did this so that all people will respect the Son the same as they respect the Father. Anyone who does not respect the Son does not respect the Father. He is the one who sent the Son.
24. “I assure you, anyone who hears what I say and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life. They will not be judged guilty. They have already left death and have entered into life.
25. Believe me, an important time is coming. That time is already here. People who are dead will hear the voice of the Son of God. And those who listen will live.
26. Life comes from the Father himself. So the Father has also allowed the Son to give life.
27. And the Father has given him the power to judge all people because he is the Son of Man.
28. “Don’t be surprised at this. A time is coming when all people who are dead and in their graves will hear his voice.
29. Then they will come out of their graves. Those who did good in this life will rise and have eternal life. But those who did evil will rise to be judged guilty.
30. “I can do nothing alone. I judge only the way I am told. And my judgment is right, because I am not trying to please myself. I want only to please the one who sent me.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by paxonel(m): 8:33am On Nov 24
Kobojunkiee:


However, not all of those who believe(are saved/have Salvation and are gifted with eternal life) will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.



on the contrary

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

How will you explain that?
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by Kobojunkiee: 4:53pm On Nov 24
paxonel:
on the contrary
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
How will you explain that?
As John the apostle tries to explain even there in Chapter 1 for you to understand, everyone who believes has the power to become sons of God, but the same John goes on to explain in later chapters that not everyone who believes will eventually become a son of God. This is the message explained in Chapter after Chapter of the Gospel of John to you and all those who will listen and hear the truth of Jesus Christ.

Each of the Gospels is meant to be read in its entirety, not in pieces with conclusions drawn from partial readings, so one can have a better grasp of the message intended by the writer.
Re: As Christians, How Should We Relate With Unbelievers? by paxonel(m): 5:38pm On Nov 24
Kobojunkiee:
As John the apostle tries to explain even there in Chapter 1 for you to understand, everyone who believes has the power to become sons of God, but the same John goes on to explain in later chapters that not everyone who believes will eventually become a son of God. This is the message explained in Chapter after Chapter of the Gospel of John to you and all those who will listen and hear the truth of Jesus Christ.

Each of the Gospels is meant to be read in its entirety, not in pieces with conclusions drawn from partial readings, so one can have a better grasp of the message intended by the writer.
OK,
In it entirety, show me where John explains that not everyone who believe will eventually become the son's of God

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