Christianokaro:


Not same Bible telling us how God does not want the death of a sinner?

Does want is not the same as "Thus saith The Lord, my anger is against ye who did this evil".

Christianokaro:

Truth is, people commit suicide when they loose touch of hope. You'll agree with me that the church restores hope.

It is supposed to but I have also seen the church driving people to suicide!

XXXXTENTACION:
like i said religion is important because it gives people an illusion of hope during hard times.



like during this coronavirus pandemic alot of people are depressed but with religion. you know when you feel sad you can easily look up and remember that you have one big daddy up there in heaven who cares alot about you. That alone gives people hope and keeps them going.

LOL ���
Wahala for who no get big daddy up there

Christianokaro:
We live in a time where the very essence of religion be it Christianity, Islam or even traditional is questioned. A time where mostly only the division factor is highlighted.

Well, not to discredit the fact that time and again, religion is being used as a tool for propaganda by desperate clerics and politicians alike but what we cannot take away from religion is this;

In a society like ours where majority of the population has and are still being failed by government, leaders and even society. A time where the very essence of reproduction is questioned by the common man as to why bring an innocent child into a nation like our's, where it seems like there's no future in view, religion becomes the major restorer of hope, vision, sanity, and even faith in what looks like a failed state.

The pastors might not be perfect just like you aren't perfect. But that doesn't take away the function of the church. Take away the church and I tell you suicide will be on the high, same goes crime.

Here's my own 2 cents today. Hope we all went to church?

In other words, you're selling a lie, an illusion?

If you have to walk down that road for the purpose of false hope, it means you're deluded and needs mental help.

Issues like this will be addressed by a professional, who then strive to discover an aspect of your life that is fueling this false hope and delusion.

I see a world where a belief in a God will be a mental disorder.

Dtruthspeaker:


It is not the Regular Practice that is speaking, it is the Man who is himself committing those offences and Doing That which he Does Regularly, that is speaking. It is the case of a Student Marking his own Exam Papers and Declaring the Result. Such Results have Never Been Accepted by Anybody As True, it is Lie.

Unless and Until Another Independent Person grades those Exam Papers, to which we have all graded and it is the Judgment that the Persons Fail!

Speak in simple terms.

what point are you trying to make precisely.

Dtruthspeaker:


Does want is not the same as "Thus saith The Lord, my anger is against ye who did this evil".



It is supposed to but I have also seen the church driving people to suicide!

Driving people to suicide really?

Christianokaro:

LOL ���
Wahala for who no get big daddy up there

well thats what religion teaches its followers.


well you have God (big daddy) who lives up in heavens any time you have problems you can easily run to him and he will help you solve all your problems.

GodWrites:


In other words, you're selling a lie, an illusion?

If you have to walk down that road for the purpose of false hope, it means you're deluded and needs mental help.

Issues like this will be addressed by a professional, who then strive to discover an aspect of your life that is fueling this false hope and delusion.

I see a world where a belief in a God will be a mental disorder.

The lives of those transformed via faith is a testament that the hope in the supernatural is not merely an illusion.
We so love to mention science, but forget to mention that the very nation's leading in science are also believers of various religions. One does not have to cancel the other.

XXXXTENTACION:
well thats what religion teaches its followers.


well you have God (big daddy) who lives up in heavens any time you have problems you can easily run to him and he will help you solve all your problems.

Don't be sarcastic. It's beyond that and I'm sure you know it.

Christianokaro:


Driving people to suicide really?

Yeah, I have seen this, specifically, in Catholic church. Besides the fact that they are generally depressing, some priests may raise the urge of killing whether him or you. I think Kobojunkie also experienced something like that and there is another person here, but I am unable to recollect the Moniker!

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, I have seen this, specifically, in Catholic church. Besides the fact that they are generally depressing, some priests may raise the urge of killing whether him or you. I think Kobojunkie also experienced something like that and there is another person here, but I am unable to recollect the Moniker!

I disagree with you saying catholic churches are generally depressing. There are people who enjoy those solemn services. If you don't like them, there are options.

I'm really not understanding the urge of killing a priest or yourself though. Could you shed more light on that?

XXXXTENTACION:
Speak in simple terms.

what point are you trying to make precisely.

I am saying it is the persons who commit atrocities that are themselves praising themselves and "painting themselves good" exactly as politicians do, Not their Actions or Regular Practice (Religion)


Hope this is clear?

Christianokaro:


I disagree with you saying catholic churches are generally depressing. There are people who enjoy those solemn services. If you don't like them, there are options.

I'm really not understanding the urge of killing a priest or yourself though. Could you shed more light on that?

I love Solemn but I know the difference between Solemn and Depressing.

On your question, it would be Unjust and Unfair to give light to it, if you have not seen it, Glory be to God, for this is good. But seeing it is not a good thing and I assure you, you really do not want to see it.

Dtruthspeaker:


I love Solemn but I know the difference between Solemn and Depressing.

On your question, it would be Unjust and Unfair to give light to it, if you have not seen it, Glory be to God, for this is good. But seeing it is not a good thing and I assure you, you really do not want to see it.

Wowooo. If a church is depressing, there are options.
I don't think it's right to make an allegation and be offing the mic just when it gains interest. Keep to thyself what thou art unready to share

GodWrites:


In other words, you're selling a lie, an illusion?

If you have to walk down that road for the purpose of false hope, it means you're deluded and needs mental help.

Issues like this will be addressed by a professional, who then strive to discover an aspect of your life that is fueling this false hope and delusion.

I see a world where a belief in a God will be a mental disorder.

You would prefer people to be hopeless because you Hate God. Anyway, your wish is already granted, for God has left man to his own ways and you can see what man's Result is like!

Christianokaro:


Wowooo. If a church is depressing, there are options.
I don't think it's right to make an allegation and be offing the mic just when it gains interest. Keep to thyself what thou art unready to share

I did not expect your interest to be raised here but there is also the option of you checking out if what I say has been observed by others.

Christianokaro:


Don't be sarcastic. It's beyond that and I'm sure you know it.

I just used that sarcasm to point out something to you.

its just my own way of criticising without being too blunt.

Dtruthspeaker:


I am saying it is the persons who commit atrocities that are themselves praising themselves and "painting themselves good" exactly as politicians do, Not their Actions or Regular Practice (Religion)


Hope this is clear?

Not yet clear.


you just ended up contracdicting yourself.

Christianokaro:


Call it an illusion but what I know is it keeps them going, pushing and fighting. Take away religion and see if you'll be safe

Nigeria is less safe with religion. Just look at what happened yesterday with those farmers that were murdered in cold blood

Judybash93:


Nigeria is less safe with religion. Just look at what happened yesterday with those farmers that were murdered in cold blood

And I'm saying it won't be any better without.

XXXXTENTACION:
Not yet clear.

you just ended up contracdicting yourself.

No I did not for there is nothing to contradict. My point was that Regular Practice which is called Religion does not defend itself that it is good and it can not do so because it merely an action.

It is rather the human doers, who are Accused for their Actions, whether it is good or bad, who Need to Defend themselves. That is my point since the first!

Dtruthspeaker:


No I did not for there is nothing to contradict. My point was that Regular Practice which is called Religion does not defend itself that it is good and it can not do so because it merely an action.

It is rather the human doers, who are Accused for their Actions, whether it is good or bad, who Need to Defend themselves. That is my point since the first!

So in other words since religion is a regular practice it can neither be good nor bad.



therefore it is the humans who practice it that are bad (evil)
is that not your point

Judybash93:


Nigeria is less safe with religion. Just look at what happened yesterday with those farmers that were murdered in cold blood

People murdered people. As Dmx said "guns don't kill people, people kill people"

Same here Regular Practice (Religion) does nothing.

It is the people who kill, steal, rape and decide what Actions that they shall do regularly, which in turn becomes what is called a Religion!

XXXXTENTACION:
So in other words since religion is a regular practice it can neither be good nor bad.

therefore it is the humans who practice it that are bad (evil)
is that not your point

Yep, are you saying that you did not know this?

Dtruthspeaker:


Yep, are you saying that you did not know this?

Well in simple terms you are saying

religion can neither be good nor bad.

XXXXTENTACION:
Well in simple terms you are saying

religion can neither be good nor bad.

Yes, I confirm that!

:Truth is, people commit suicide when they loose touch of hope. You'll agree with me that the church restores hope. It is supposed to but I have also seen the church driving people to suicide!

omokeinde84655:
:Truth is, people commit suicide when they loose touch of hope. You'll agree with me that the church restores hope. It is supposed to but I have also seen the church driving people to suicide!

The church indeed restores hope. I don't understand how the church drives people to suicide tho.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes, I confirm that!

lets get this straight. If a religion orders its followers to kill unbilievers.


what adjective would you use to describe such a religion.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yeah, I have seen this, specifically, in Catholic church. Besides the fact that they are generally depressing, some priests may raise the urge of killing whether him or you. I think Kobojunkie also experienced something like that and there is another person here, but I am unable to recollect the Moniker!

What the Fuulk is wrong with you?
What association do I have with a catholic church of all churches and when in the world have I ever posted anything close to what you claim above?

Kobojunkiee:
What the Fuulk is wrong with you?
What association do I have with a catholic church of all churches and when in the world have I ever posted anything close to what you claim above?

Gbam! Gbam! Gbam!

XXXXTENTACION:
lets get this straight. If a religion orders its followers to kill unbilievers.

what adjective would you use to describe such a religion.

It's Not A Religion that gave the Order, It is A Person!

It is A Person Who Always has Power To Issue Commands, Not an Action.

It is A Person who Always Carries Out An Action, An Action Can Not Act Itself And Can Never Do So of Its own Doing!

That's why when we hear an Action or See an Action,we Seek the Actor and the Doer of the Action! Eg, Your Post Will Never Type Itself Here, It is You, the Actor, who Must Type It!

So I Do Not Need to Describe the Action, I Always Seek out and Describe the Person eg Thief, for a person who wrongfully takes the property belonging to another, if not the property will Never Move and the owner will find it where he left it. Same for killers, Liars, Whoremongers, etc

Kobojunkiee:
What the Fuulk is wrong with you?
What association do I have with a catholic church of all churches and when in the world have I ever posted anything close to what you claim above?

sorry you misunderstood, I did not say nor infer that you attend Catholic church.(your hatred for dem no be small one) what I was saying to christianokaro was that you may have had an experience with a church not being able to fulfil your spiritual needs, as expressed in one of your post where you explained that you were once an atheist and all your experience through those times.