livingchrist:
bla, bla,bla, Abomination of an organisation that serve a false God.
No wonder they love darkness rather than light, fellowshiping with demons and dishing out darkness as light.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is where you make yourself sound like a nuisance.

Everyone knows that light helps visibility as in making things easy for clarification, anyone in the dark can talk or make noise but can never see objects around him due to the darkness.
So how come is it that it's those you claim are in the dark that are able to list the WORKS they're doing {James 2:18} tell you the names of countries where you can find them {Philippians 4:16} know specific identification signs to fellowship as one family globally {1Corinthians 1:10} and everyone throughout the earth can recognize them with the same line of thought due to their tenets! Matthew 7:13-16

But you who claims to be in the light cannot point out any single act as achievement, no specific identification mark, racism and politics can lead you to kill your fellow believers, you don't even have tenets to identify those who have the same line of thought as you do in the neighbourhood.
And yet you're saying you have the light! Matthew 6:23

My Guy, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

livingchrist:

Even satan masquerades as an angel of light how much more his ministers
All your fake peace and unity are mere deception.
It is better to be divided and have truth than to living in lie with fake peace and unity.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is what intellectuals will work on to ascertain where falsehood is hiding.
You may quote our book (Bible) but you need us to TEACH you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're QUOTING Sir!
Of course the revelation of TRUTH will cause a division between the agents of light and the agents of darkness {Matthew 10:34-39} but where the agents of darkness are divided still {Galatians 5:20} agents of light will be united in the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} so neither geographical location nor out of sight {2Corinthians 5:7} can break that fine FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
That's why it's only when you gather in one place that you can worship your god together, while JWs worship our God in SPIRIT and TRUTH {John 4:24} as we know those who belongs to us and we can dwell with them no matter the country we find them! Matthew 10:11; Luke 9:4



PRACTICAL APPLICATION!
As a mighty spirit being Satan also can perform wonders, signs and distribute gifts to his agents so it takes divine wisdom to distinguish between those who are in the road to life and those who are on the road to destruction.
But where there is God's Holy Spirit at WORK you will see LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23
You can't find these qualities in any gathering even if it's the angels that are officiating there because God specifically pour out his Holy Spirit on true Born Again Christians so in any gathering where they are officiating all the attributes of God's Holy Spirit will be SEEN by everyone! Matthew 5:13-16
That's why you can notice bad eggs amongst us but keep wondering how come LOVE JOY and PEACE is still reigning in this gathering despite the fact that imperfect humans are many?
Well it's the real BORN AGAIN Christians as Jesus' spirit anointed brothers that are overseeing the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 24:45

livingchrist:
Jehovah witness organisation is masquerading true Christianity just as satan masquerades as an angel of light.Like father like son, Jehovah witness has proved to be from the devil.
You have shown that telling lies does not matter so far there is a false sense of unity and peace but the word of God exposes you that you are of the devil.John 8:44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.There is one undeniable trait of the children of the devil, that is they are liars just like their father the devil.You are not bothered about truth but just peace and unity

MaxInDHouse:
I don't need to start arguing with you over who is on the side of the truth my guy, Pharisees and Sadducees Scribes and other Rabbis kept calling Jesus a liar too but Jesus' response to them is "By their FRUIT you will know them"

So if you have nothing to present as evidence of God's support or backing for the religion you're practicing apart from worthless arguments, then you really need to see a psychiatrist because you are quoting the Bible just as i am also quoting the Bible {Matthew 4:6-7} but you're just quoting out of context, what you're saying is not working anywhere, while i am quoting and at the same time presenting where it is working! James 2:18

livingchrist:
Telling a lie and bearing false witness is a fruit of the devil.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jesus never lied, none of the pharisee could prove Jesus lied. Jesus read the scriptures out to them fulfilling what was written in it, He never lied, or twisted God's word unlike you who do not mind twisting and contradicting God's word in other to keep your satanic tradition.
This thread alone serve to expose you as someone who do not care for the truth so far you defend your satanic organisation.

MaxInDHouse:
TRUTH WORKS OUT WHAT IS BENEFITIAL!

That's the only edge Jesus had above the Pharisees!

For your information, they knew God's word inside out and they can teach Jesus' foster grandpa but they only have head knowledge of what's written in God's word they don't have the PRACTICAL APPLICATION that's why their teachings doesn't benefit those following them, just like you too, you can read the Bible and think of how to twist what is written inside to accuse others whereas the first thing Jesus did was to apply it to himself so that everyone can see how PRACTICAL God's word is, that's what i've been doing since.
JWs don't just use God's word to accuse others, the Organization looks at the mirror first to see if we are meeting up with the prophecy, and we try to invite others to come and enjoy the benefits of the right application of God's word!
You are just quoting to accuse, why not first apply it to your group and see if there is any similarity between your group and what the first century Christians were doing back then?

All the churches of Christendom out there are doing the same thing, they don't apply the Bible to their group first so that onlookers will not see their flaws. Whenever any impostor wants to open his own Church he will quote some verses for gullible ones in the society, use the quotations to accuse existing Churches then sugar-coat his words to woo the fools so that they will start following him/her. By the end of the day instead of publicly debunking the existing chuches as he did before gathering the fools, he will later change his tactics and start referring to the churches he once condemned as other denominations of the same religion.
Kumuyi did that, he left a church before forming Deeperlife on the basis of heresy but today he is no more saying anything again publicly to prove why he left his former Church. WHY?
Because there is nothing to write home about the group he formed, there is no difference between his group and other existing chuches!

But JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES like the first century Christians were applying the word of God to themselves FIRST to help observers realize the fulfilment of Bible prophecies in the activities of their group. Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 2:28-30

So instead of quoting the Bible to point accusing fingers to JWs why not first apply the WORDS to your own group let everyone see how fitting what your group is doing with what is written in the book? James 1:22-25

bixton:

Apologies but all you are saying is not in any form proof of your application of the Word or practicability of the Word in your organisation.
If I am to take your explanation completely how is it different from those who belong to well established occultic organisations?

Do they not have this same practicability you tend to explain!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
TRUTH WORKS OUT WHAT IS BENEFITIAL!

That's the only edge Jesus had above the Pharisees!

For your information, they knew God's word inside out and they can teach Jesus' foster grandpa but they only have head knowledge of what's written in God's word they don't have the PRACTICAL APPLICATION that's why their teachings doesn't benefit those following them, just like you too, you can read the Bible and think of how to twist what is written inside to accuse others whereas the first thing Jesus did was to apply it to himself so that everyone can see how PRACTICAL God's word is, that's what i've been doing since.
JWs don't just use God's word to accuse others, the Organization looks at the mirror first to see if we are meeting up with the prophecy, and we try to invite others to come and enjoy the benefits of the right application of God's word!
You are just quoting to accuse, why not first apply it to your group and see if there is any similarity between your group and what the first century Christians were doing back then?

All the churches of Christendom out there are doing the same thing, they don't apply the Bible to their group first so that onlookers will not see their flaws. Whenever any impostor wants to open his own Church he will quote some verses for gullible ones in the society, use the quotations to accuse existing Churches then sugar-coat his words to woo the fools so that they will start following him/her. By the end of the day instead of publicly debunking the existing chuches as he did before gathering the fools, he will later change his tactics and start referring to the churches he once condemned as other denominations of the same religion.
Kumuyi did that, he left a church before forming Deeperlife on the basis of heresy but today he is no more saying anything again publicly to prove why he left his former Church. WHY?
Because there is nothing to write home about the group he formed, there is no difference between his group and other existing chuches!

But JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES like the first century Christians were applying the word of God to themselves FIRST to help observers realize the fulfilment of Bible prophecies in the activities of their group. Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 2:28-30

So instead of quoting the Bible to point accusing fingers to JWs why not first apply the WORDS to your own group let everyone see how fitting what your group is doing with what is written in the book? James 1:22-25

bixton:
Those who claim to know do not and those who think they are in the knowing it is just a beginning.
The Word of God is not static but dynamic. Those who live by the Holy Spirit would understand.
I'd really want to understand some foundational things by asking these questions so I get a first hand knowledge of who or what your organisation preaches;;;

[b]1) Please who is Jesus Christ to JW?
2) Who do you pray to and in what name do you make your prayers known ?
3) Who is the Holy Spirit and what is His purpose in the life of JW?
4) Do you believe in the gift of tongues for the purposes as explained in the Bible?
4) Do you believe in miracles and do they still exist?
4) What is your organisations' belief on blood transfusion and is there any Biblical backing against it?
5) Why do you not share prayers with those who are not of your organisation and is that Biblical also?
6) How did you come to the understanding of the Word and what is the role of the Holy Spirit in perfecting this understanding ?
7) How can you outrightly discern the interpretation/ doctrine of man for mischief purposes to the doctrine of God for the purposes which the Word was/is meant meant to be in our daily lives?
Is it true that your organisation preaches against members not allowed to vote in elections. If true is it this preaching and belief Biblical also?[/b]


Thanks for your humble submissions.

MaxInDHouse:


Whenever you see people converge in one place for a purpose know today that spirit beings (angels) are involved, so what makes it occultic is the aim and objective of the gathering. Well established occultic Organizations comprises of lots of imperfect humans and the same is applicable to any other organized group out there.
Now let's address your questions!
What makes JW Organization different from all other groups?
Of course the relevance of any group largely depends on how far they're able to meet up with a certain purpose for which the group is form, therefore each group will say sweet things to woo new members into joining them.
But JWs first tell an interested person the good news of God's Kingdom and it's richly blessings for all those who will make it, then we present the challenges a member will encounter when he becomes one of us {Matthew 10:34-39} secondly we will tell him the tenets that he must keep to remain part of us {Matthew 16:24} then we will make him understand that since we're all imperfect there's always room for correction whenever a blunder is committed {Matthew 18:21-22} (this is where occultic groups differ, because for each error a grievous penalty awaits the offender) JWs will be prepared to win our brother/sister back into the fold by reminding him/her the tenets we all vowed to keep but if the offender insist on shifting blame {Genesis 3:11-13} then we will remove him from our midst! Matthew 18:15-17
The only benefit of occultic groups is to shield a member whenever the person commits an offence worth been punished by outsiders, they will never allow none members to witness how their member is humiliated publicly for any reason no matter how grievous the offence. In fact occultic groups will find a scapegoat outside their group who must pay for the error committed by their own member when such punishment involves the public. But when it's an offence committed against the brotherhood it's the offender (default member) that must bear his punishment!
So for this reason there is no occultic group that's not connected one way or the other to the authorities because they must always shield their members from facing public shame. JWs have nothing to do with Politics or nationalism, they don't vote neither contest for public posts so how can they shield their member from facing punishment? John 15:19, 17:14-16
if anyone tells you JWs are occultic, ask such a person if there is any occultic groups that has no influence on the authorities?

Interesting to see that according to your interpretation the bolded prevents from you from partaking in voting.



PRACTICAL APPLICATION must come in if there is going to be any benefits so you don't have to take all groups that works on practicality as occultic, what matters is the benefit of what they are PRACTICING! Galatians 5:22-23


Do you apply this to just members of your organisation or to others in it's entirely or selectively?

May you have PEACE!

livingchrist:
The works of Jehovah witness organization proved she is of the devil
Lying and bearing false witness are works, so you apply the scriptures by telling lies and bearing false witness deceiving the gullible. These are the very works of satan, if you apply the word of God you wouldnt be a liar.
You said The only edge Jesus had over the pharisee were his works, ignoring the fact that Jesus had superior knowledge of the scripture above the pharisees that they were not able to withstand his wisdom and authority.
The pharisee are good in twisting scriptures like the devil, so also is your satanic organisation, they had no real knowledge of God's word just like you.

MaxInDHouse:
You have lots of questions my friend!

But then let's pick few so you can meet with JWs in your neighbourhood for the rest of your questions.

So please pick just three that you will like us to treat now!

bixton:

Okay.
Please kindly give responses to question 3 and the questions 4, 4, 4.
Apologies for the wrong numbering.

Nuttella:
Jesus is God that came in human form, if he was just a prophet, he would have come through a woman, without conception through the holyghost. that is why he said *before Abraham, I am" He has always been with God since the beginning of creation. He is God, same as the Holy spirit, they are all part of God=One God.

livingchrist:
If someone called you a lion does it mean you are really a lion? Same thing with moses/other beings called a God or gods.

Can you mention were moses/others served as God?
Jehovah didnt made moses a God, it was only a figure of speech.
According to you Jehovah is not God by nature right?

haddeylium:


'I have made you a God to Pharaoh'
'I have made you a King to Moses'
'Humans are God'
Angels are too'

But the almighty is the Father 'Jehovah'.
True worshippers worship the Father (John 4:23)



You're welcome mister!

haddeylium:


'I have made you a God to Pharaoh'
'I have made you a King to Moses'
'Humans are God'
Angels are too'

But the almighty is the Father 'Jehovah'.
True worshippers worship the Father (John 4:23)



You're welcome mister!

Henrymorre:

Exodus 7:1
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

livingchrist:

Is there a God besides Jehovah?
Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Jehovah false witness organisation is saying Jehovah know another God.
A cursed organisation she is
Jehovah witness organisation is leading you to hell.
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
All liars sha find their place in the lake of fire.
The devil is the father of lies
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Jehovah false witness organisation denies Jesus flat because she is a bride of the devil

livingchrist:
What you ended up saying is that Jehovah is lying that he is the only God.

Isaiah 45:21
Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Riddle me this
How many Lord do you have?

MaxInDHouse:
What a pity, TRINITY is seriously sick and gradually expiring!

Sorry my dear friend, lovers of truth sympathise with all trinitarians as you're watching helplessly, hopelessly and frustrated as TRINITY is dying slowly!

Don't worry my friend, you'll soon get over the death of your dear dogheads "TRINITY"

livingchrist:
What you ended up saying is that Jehovah is lying that he is the only God.

Isaiah 45:21
Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

haddeylium:

Trinitarians lost it when they start explaining their Godheads with Ice water and time travel
This joke

MaxInDHouse:
What a pity, TRINITY is seriously sick and gradually expiring!

Sorry my dear friend, lovers of truth sympathise with all trinitarians as you're watching helplessly, hopelessly and frustrated as TRINITY is dying slowly!

Don't worry my friend, you'll soon get over the death of your dear dogheads "TRINITY"

haddeylium:


Riddle this
How many Lord do you have?

livingchrist:
It is jehiavh witness god that is dying gradually dying.

All liars sha find their place in the lake of fire.
The devil is the father of lies
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Jehovah false witness organisation denies Jesus flat because she is a bride of the devil

MaxInDHouse:
@ bixton

It's not easy to recognize Jesus' true followers today because Satan (deceiver) has formed a lot of GROUPS and these ones are also claiming Christians. 2 Corinthians 11:12-14

If you're not guided by born again Christians you can never figure out the differences between the agents of light and the agents of darkness.

So i'll leave you with just one simple illustration, i don't know where you're or your nationality but you can observe these two countries to grasp what we're saying here.
China and Nigeria!
China is a communist nation so they don't carry professional titles on their head but Nigeria is a Capitalist nation where everyone wants to be addressed with titles.
Nigerians have Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Physicists, Mathematicians, Geographers, Agricultural Scientists and all of them with first class grades yet Nigerians are lacking in all those fields because all those professionals title holders only go about with paper qualifications they are not performing!

I'm a contractor and i deal with CCECC, i only know Chinese performing here and there in all fields nobody knows their qualifications yet the whole world can feel their impact!

That's the difference between JWs who only get to work and misinformed Churchgoers who keeps big religious titles whereas they only bully people around them, their impact is not felt even in the midst of those following them!

Surely you will say China is working because their GOVERNMENT has put things in place!
So whenever anyone ask you why are JWs performing here and there throughout the earth with the same kind of spirit and zeal everywhere? Remember the little group overseeing the activities of JWs globally as they call themselves The GOVERNING BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

God bless you and may you have PEACE!