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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Oshigun: 8:50pm On Feb 23
theFilmtric:
I'm in support of this
We are far stronger together
The north has been a stumbling block


theFilmtricsay

Please. This tactics of an enemy of my enemy is my friend, that Igbos live by, won't work with Yorubas. The notion we should create a nation with Igbos out of hate for the North is repulsive and something Yorubas won't do.

If Nigeria separates be 100% sure Yorubas would have their own independent nation without both the Igbos and Hausa/Fulanis. I can bet everything I own on that.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 8:50pm On Feb 23
Oshigun:


Precisely. Igbos are the most openly divisive Nigerians to exist. They would bring everyone down by by stoking the fires of division once they fail to get their way.

I beg to disagree Sir... the Igbos are right to want out of a hell called Nigeria.

The South would travel on a speed of light if we all combine strengths.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by theFilmtric: 8:57pm On Feb 23
Allen102:
I want nothing to do with igbos or yorubas mr man. So count ijaws out of this your whatever imagination you are having ok?
well
Kiss the truth
If Nigeria disintegrates Ijaw can't stay alone you'll have to join a bigger force
Start thinking
Which force would that be?
Arewa,Biafra,or Oduduwa?


theFilmtricsay

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Osagyefo98: 9:10pm On Feb 23
SouthNigerian:


Meleszenawi the fake igbo propagandist, wehdone.

Call anything you want but I won't Allow myself to be misguided.

The bulk of trade in east today is with north and SS.

So if you are not blinded by foolishhhhness and myopism you shouldn't be writing this nonsense.

Most of you are just plain Empty and are not guided by logics.

SW has no business relation with east and here you are proposing nonsense.

Chineke mere unu ebele..may God have mercy on you all.

Useless thread.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Osagyefo98: 9:11pm On Feb 23
Oshigun:


Precisely. Igbos are the most openly divisive Nigerians to exist. They would bring everyone down by by stoking the fires of division once they fail to get their way.

Only an idiot will allow such union.

Nigeria is doomed to fail but never to form country with Benin republic.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by pansophist(m): 10:15pm On Feb 23
Oshigun:


Lol. The point of the post is lost on you. If Yorubas are backstabbers then what does that say about Igbos who have made the SW by far the biggest outpost of Igbos outside your ancestral land in SE Nigeria?

The way you Igbos talk show that you will always fail because you can't confront simple realities before issuing cheques your bank balance can't cash.

Yourbas don't care what you think of them and the evidence on the ground is that they are the ones happy to stay away from Igbos and their land while you flock to them and their land in thousands daily.

Best believe it will be your Igbo brothers and especially sisters , while you brag online foolishly, who will be crying blood and pleading on the floor to be accepted as naturalized Oduduwa citizens just so they don't get deported to Biafra.

Meanwhile all the Yorubas in Igbo land will sing and dance all the way back to the SW if Biafra and Oduduwa Republic are declared anytime in the future.

True, the Southwest is the second home of Igbos outside their ancestral land, but the same can be said about most, if not all ethnic groups in Nigeria as well. Also, it has nothing to do with the need to be with the Yorubas by the Igbos (and by extension, other ethnic groups ), but more to do with the fact that the economical concentration of the country is bestowed in the SW, especially Lagos, even though Lagos is even the smallest state of all the 36 states in Nigeria.

If the FG with their partial politics opens up the seaport in Calabar or port Harcourt, and politically restructure the country in such a way that devolves power to each state, do you honestly believe that Lagos will still be disproportionately populated by other ethnic groups? Same way Ghanaians flocked to Nigeria in the 90's due to economical opportunity, but they hardly do that now. Doesn't mean they love Nigeria so much than their own, its all about survival and opportunities.

I do not agree with the moniker you quoted about Yorubas being backstabbers or whatever derogatory words used, as someone born and bred in Lasgidi, I believe that the Yorubas are good folks, with a hospitable culture and tolerance, but it's necessary to point out the discrepancy in your post that may not be detected by the untrained mind. Your last two paragraphs are merely biased opinions, though a little bit of humour is allowed, but I will be baffled if you truly believe that.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Allen102: 10:15pm On Feb 23
zeuss:


who r u? the likes of asari dokubo has already spoken ....
.
And who is Asari? Count ijaws out of your nonsense.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by BastardWike: 10:38pm On Feb 23
MajorLeaguePlay:



First off, there’s nothing like South-South. A man from Bendel Area (Edo-Delta/Midwest/Old West) has way more in common with the rest of the Western Region than with a man from, say, Abia or Rivers.

The Western Region will not allow a majority Igbo region set up shop across the Niger; they can forget it.

Finally, I think it’d be a grave mistake for the Western Region to form any kind of country with a known adversary like the Eastern side or to not form an alliance with the old Midwestern region.

Common getaway from here!
See your ewedu mouth like Western region can't allow majority Igbo region to set up shop across the Niger.... Do you guys have what it takes to stop Igbos from uniting with their brothers on the other side of the Niger?

Imagine refugees making mouth from their shelter in Benin republic.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by pansophist(m): 10:43pm On Feb 23
Oshigun:


Then start acting as you want out instead of shouting it the loudest when it is obvious you are the least prepared for Nigeria separating with everyone and their people forced to go their separate ways.

If Biafra is declared tomorrow then what do you want to do with the over 10million Igbos in the SW let alone the rest of Nigeria? Childish Ego-trips and hatred of others alone don't create successful and viable nations. Realities on the ground, discipline and preparation do.

You see, there are international laws designed for issues like these such as secessions, rights of citizens and minorities, and legal obligations of their new host country towards the converted immigrants in their midst. A notable of is the "African charter for human rights", and the " Vienna convention on the law of treaties".

Article 70(1) of the Vienna convention says and I quote, "

"Unless the treaty otherwise provides or the parties otherwise agree, the termination of a treaty under its provisions or by the present Convention:

(a) releases the parties from any obligation further to perform the treaty; (b) does not affect any right, obligation or legal situation of the parties created through the execution of the treaty before its termination"


So to answer your question in the last paragraph, the 10 million Igbos (wonder how you got that number, but okay), and every other ethnic group by law, should retain their right to live in Nigeria under a new immigration law designed specifically for them, especially when they have legitimate businesses and have assimilated into their host communities. The same thing happened with Brexit,  Russians in ex-soviet states such as Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia.

Unless the new emerging countries decide not to act civilised, which will rain sanctions from the international community that is capable of crippling their economies and boycotted from International trade (Eg Iran, Crimea, Venezuela etc). This is 21st-century bro. The same also applies to Yoruba minorities everywhere in Nigeria. Furthermore, the possibilities are high that the emerging states will fall under the umbrella of ecowas, and free movement and acquisition of immovable properties will still be a rights community citizens enjoys.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by engrchykae(m): 10:49pm On Feb 23
SouthNigerian:


Lies... the South will remain a Country.

We'll become too strong for terrorists from the North.

Small Nations are weaker, a Unified Nation is stronger.
I see that fear will Never allow the Yoruba to have a nation of their own.
Yoruba want others to make up the military that will protect them.
They want others to run the grassroot economy while they run administrative.
Yoruba want others to die for them while they do owambe.
If the southeast join with sw and as,Yoruba media will turn to the new fulani,they will use media to lie against the igbos and make the as hate igbos which will work against our political interests.
Moreover most importantly yorubas have a servile culture and that will make them to be loyal to the British at our expense.
Be a man,build your own House.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by engrchykae(m): 10:50pm On Feb 23
SouthNigerian:


Lies... the South will remain a Country.

We'll become too strong for terrorists from the North.

Small Nations are weaker, a Unified Nation is stronger.
is Israel weak?
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by engrchykae(m): 10:54pm On Feb 23
SouthNigerian:


The South is United
only when it suits Yoruba,if sokoto grant your demands which is tinubu presidency, the Southwest will sing a different tune

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Never4getU: 11:44pm On Feb 23
Mumu! What is the population of the entire ss? Do think America come together as nation by accident? It was by understanding, that understanding is what Nigeria govt want to force down people's throat which will fail.

If slave trade was abolished all over the world and independence granted to nations for self governance, why would any person think people will throw away it's freedom?

If govt itself it's a social contract then living together should be at the concession of parties.

Fixey:
No


SS wants to stay alone. We prefer an alliance with SE if alliances are to be formed. SW can cling to Arewa
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by OfoIgbo: 12:10am On Feb 24
christistruth01:


We are happy to stay in one autonomous Nigeria

Just that Some people are more interested in Niger Delta resources but pretend to be fighting for Biafra

So the best way to deal with them is to have 3 Countries in the South that way no Region is Cheated

You can't fight for Biafra and then claim to own Niger Delta can you ?

You can have your Niger Delta Republic provided no Igbo-speaking areas are in it. Also other minorities that wish to stay on their own are not held back by the Ijaws.

Finally Ubani (Bonny) and Opobo make their choice as to where they will belong,. by their autochthonous people's.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 12:20am On Feb 24
Zooposki:


Middle Belt nko?
Those ones are neither here nor there .Today some are with the south by tomorrow they are for the north .Beside there are so many Fulanis in the Middle belt .So they really have to make up thier mind .
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 12:24am On Feb 24
SouthNigerian:
It is inevitable that Nigeria will disintegrate before or after 2023. It is important for the whole South to operate as a Nation. Reasons:

1. The North would become a den of terrorists. A divided South Nigeria would be easier for a terrorist North to conquer. A unified South would become too solid to be infiltrated.

2. Majority wahala in a Biafran Nation won't be a problem, as a Country comprising the Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw, Idoma, Edo tribes etc would be a perfect balance.

3. The Forward Looking and Innovativeness of the South would make her a Legacy in Africa and the world. We will compete with world powers.

4. The South will dominate Africa through Education, business, Innovations, entertainment, sports.

5. South Nigeria is the opportunity for a flourished Africa. What we become determines the fate of Africa.

6. South Nigeria would become the number one destination for investors, tourists etc in Africa.

7. South Nigeria would become the true definition of African Ability.

LASTLY

8. Igbo, Edo girls like Yoruba Boys. Igbo men like the phat assed Yoruba girls. [b]My baby Mama is from Delta [/b]while my current girlfriend is an Imolite.



CONCLUSION:
Do not fall for the new division tactics from the caliphate. The caliphate believe anything can happen, be it Biafra, Oduduwa or Niger Delta Nations. The caliphate knows that a three Nation from the South would make it easier for the caliphate to expand.
The caliphate is now spreading a new propaganda how the Igbos, Yorubas and Niger Deltans can't live together as one entity.

We Must Seek To Stay Together As A Nation, SOUTH NIGERIA.
..You try oo! Na we nai feet be baby mama abi?
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 12:40am On Feb 24
christistruth01:
The South wil be 3 Countries that way no Ethnic group can dominate others and everyone can manage their resources by themselves.
SE,SW& SS will be divided into provinces where they will have thier prime minister and pay tax to the Fed govt .By this method , nobody will feel oppressed .
This region will sub devided into state & LG which will be closer to the people .
All we need are great minds from the south to brainstorm on the proper road map and a goal that we Southern nation must follow in other to leave this retrogressive way of life .
One important thing that must to be eradicated from our system and public space is religion .It must be banned from our political space it's a poison that need to be put away. However people must practice thier religion freely & peacefully without infringing on the right of other people . There are so many things that we can sit down and brainstorm about that can make our nation a great & lovely one

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 12:42am On Feb 24
heniford2:
south west my foot the south east would love to stay on there own to avoid back stabbing by south west
Pls leave this thread .Its only for matured mind and not for babies .Pls go to the usual tribal bashing thread where you can be thier local champion there .We are tired of all this Nonsence .
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 12:52am On Feb 24
Oshigun:
@OP.

Should the condition arise for Nigeria to separate then better believe Yorubas are going it alone.

We are not going to jump out of the frying pan of Nigeria's negative multi-ethnicity, that has weighed heaviest on the SW and Yorubas, to go and jump into the fire of a new national alliance with Igbos or others.

Yorubas will form their own nation. Others can apply for a residence or visiting visa to our new and exclusively Yoruba nation.
Easier said than done .The funny thing is that when that times comes, your voice will not be heard, becos it's only the voice of reason that will prevail .
Serious decision like this are not made base on emotions and over bloated ego .Decisions of this nature are made base on proper analysis of what is obtainable to form a country of people with similar ideology .With a United South we will still have the numbers for economic purpose .
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 1:00am On Feb 24
heniford2:
dude yorubas are backstabbers we prefer North than you guys
shut up and get out this thread . This is not your ethnic bashing thread where you and your other stupid fellow talk anyhow like loose nuts . If you know you cannot engage in any mature comment then get out from this place .

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 1:02am On Feb 24
heniford2:
dude yorubas are backstabbers we prefer North than you guys
The northern Fulanis are here already . Hope you love thier gift of raping and killing innocent women and children .you can relocate and join them there .

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by omoharry(f): 1:13am On Feb 24
awgumayor:
I disagree with you. A united south will make it easier for the terrorist north to conquer and infiltrate. They will conquer the south through Yoruba Muslims. South west will be their gateway to the entire south. The way America infiltrated EU through Britain will be the way north will infiltrate the south through Yoruba based on religious similarity. To your ternt oh .....
This your analogy . Is After disintegration or before? Becos if it before ,how will that happen? when the whole place would be tense ? Then if it's after, when a country has been formed. Then how will that happened with international borders in place ? This will not be the usual borous borders which is allowed becos north is affiliated with thier kin in chad and Niger.
This time around, the south will be a hostile place to the Fulani heatdmen .Visa will only be issued to those that are worthy to come into the South . By this time we would have a choice to accept and reject who ever is a potential risk to our society .

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by conquerorsword: 2:16am On Feb 24
great.....Igbo is with SW.....and Ss

Nothing like that. South west must pay for their sin, it can never be purged without blood. Millions died becaise of the yoruba betrayal.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by conquerorsword: 2:23am On Feb 24
conquerorsword:
great.....Igbo is with SW.....and Ss

Nothing like that. South west must pay for their sin, it can never be purged without blood. Millions died becaise of the yoruba betrayal.

Yes
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by Akanbiedu(m): 3:14am On Feb 24
Oshigun:


Precisely. Igbos are the most openly divisive Nigerians to exist. They would bring everyone down by by stoking the fires of division once they fail to get their way.

You understand them well. What started Nigeria descent to anarchy in 1966 was their inability to dominate. They started another one since their loss of power in 2015. Now they are spreading propaganda to scatter everywhere.

Trying to dominate is not entirely bad on its own, but not having enough statecraft experience to do it will always lead to chaos.

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Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by zeuss: 4:08am On Feb 24
Allen102:
And who is Asari? Count ijaws out of your nonsense.
gerst...
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 6:56am On Feb 24
omoharry:
..You try oo! Na we nai feet be baby mama abi?

grin.... it's a free world.

We still in Love with ourselves though, just that we both cherish our Freedom.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 6:57am On Feb 24
engrchykae:
only when it suits Yoruba,if sokoto grant your demands which is tinubu presidency, the Southwest will sing a different tune

Tinubu is the definition of a man for himself. He doesn't represent the Yoruba race, Tinubu represents himself.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 7:01am On Feb 24
engrchykae:
is Israel weak?
Don't even compare isreal
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 7:03am On Feb 24
engrchykae:
I see that fear will Never allow the Yoruba to have a nation of their own.
Yoruba want others to make up the military that will protect them.
They want others to run the grassroot economy while they run administrative.
Yoruba want others to die for them while they do owambe.
If the southeast join with sw and as,Yoruba media will turn to the new fulani,they will use media to lie against the igbos and make the as hate igbos which will work against our political interests.
Moreover most importantly yorubas have a servile culture and that will make them to be loyal to the British at our expense.
Be a man,build your own House.

grin Try harder.

The Conclusion of my write-up answers your comment.
Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 7:06am On Feb 24
omoharry:
The northern Fulanis are here already . Hope you love thier gift of raping and killing innocent women and children .you can relocate and join them there .

You know them well

Re: The SW, SE And SS Must Remain A Country by SouthNigerian: 7:07am On Feb 24
theFilmtric:

well
Kiss the truth
If Nigeria disintegrates Ijaw can't stay alone you'll have to join a bigger force
Start thinking
Which force would that be?
Arewa,Biafra,or Oduduwa?


theFilmtricsay

Good question.

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