Its true, Redpill has men's right in it but is a mechanism to not just cope with female manipulation (which is not all bad in all cases, but will make you a "fool for love" in all cases), but to become a Male manipulator yourself. Once the doctrine sticks, it's hard to undo.

Feminism on the other has women's right in it but also a supremacy undertone for women to oppress men. Infact anywhere feminism goes, divorce rate goes up, every single damn place and moral value goes down equally.

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needanswer:
Its true, Redpill has men's right in it but is a mechanism to not just cope with female manipulation (which is not all bad in all cases, but will make you a "fool for love" in all cases), but to become a Male manipulator yourself. Once the doctrine sticks, it's hard to undo.

Feminism on the other has women's right in it but also a supremacy undertone for women to oppress men. Infact anywhere feminism goes, divorce rate goes up, every single damn place and moral value goes down equally.

I like to think that fundamental redpill doctrine does not actually recommend any mechanism to cope with female manipulation. It just points out the methods used by females to manipulate weaker males and leaves the solution to the empowered individual. All the proposed methods you see are the opinions of various redpillers in the manosphere. Often it requires you to outmanipulate the manipulators, which is also unjust.

But I agree with you on one thing, men who understand how females try to manipulate them do not fall in love. This is because 'love' is one of the most effective weapons that females use to manipulate men. Why arm your adversary with her most dangerous weapon? Men who fall in 'love' always act like fools; and with that door mat attitude, they never get the object of their 'love' anyway.

RisenPhoenix1:


I like to think that fundamental redpill doctrine does not actually recommend any mechanism to cope with female manipulation. It just points out the methods used by females to manipulate weaker males and leaves the solution to the empowered individual. All the proposed methods you see are the opinions of various redpillers in the manosphere. Often it requires you to outmanipulate the manipulators, which is also unjust.

But I agree with you on one thing, men who understand how females try to manipulate them do not fall in love. This is because 'love' is one of the most effective weapons that females use to manipulate men. Why arm your adversary with her most dangerous weapon? Men who fall in 'love' always act like fools; and with that door mat attitude, they never get the object of their 'love' anyway.

True, but if you dont strike a balance you may soon fall amongst men in MGTOW. And I think that is a problem

budaatum:
Aged 17 and a self-described “late bloomer virgin”, he was growing apprehensive about going to college when he stumbled across online men’s rights forums that seemed to hold all the answers. “I believed in it so much,” the now 24-year-old tells me via Skype from his home in Portugal, “It was such a fantastic thing to me… Back then I used to say that I was so happy about finding out about the Red Pill and pick up artists that I would rather be with them than win the lottery.

“I don’t know why I believed so deeply because it really makes no sense.”
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online

A redpiller doesnt mean you are a woman hater but if not checked you can be a woman hater .

needanswer:


True, but if you dont strike a balance you may soon fall amongst men in MGTOW. And I think that is a problem

Like I said, MGTOW is only one of many coping mechanisms developed by members of the redpiller movement. Not falling in love however, is a fundamental teaching across all redpillers. Falling in love is not essential for being with a woman. Marriage is difficult enough even without the folly of adding some pseudo emotional concept of love madness into the mix. In any case, women get married all the time, though they neither feel nor understand 'love' as it is defined.

RisenPhoenix1:


Like I said, MGTOW is only one of many coping mechanisms developed by members of the redpiller movement. Not falling in love however, is a fundamental teaching across all redpillers. Falling in love is not essential for being with a woman. Marriage is difficult enough even without the folly of adding some pseudo emotional concept of love madness into the mix. In any case, women get married all the time, though they neither feel nor understand 'love' as it is defined.

True. The whole game is messed up.

LOVE?? I don bilivit. But some, limited in number might find others attractive and charming over some personal contentment to their interests.

needanswer:
Its true, Redpill has men's right in it but is a mechanism to not just cope with female manipulation (which is not all bad in all cases, but will make you a "fool for love" in all cases), but to become a Male manipulator yourself. Once the doctrine sticks, it's hard to undo.

Feminism on the other has women's right in it but also a supremacy undertone for women to oppress men. Infact anywhere feminism goes, divorce rate goes up, every single damn place and moral value goes down equally.

TheVictim01:
LOVE?? I don bilivit. But some, limited in number might find others attractive and charming over some personal contentment to their interests.

Now you understand why I am bored. The love part doesn't get me (I can only believe you love me when I am broke or jobless and not when I suit your dream guy narrative) i need something else to get to me, something outside love.

Ah! This is where the virus is. So, you're now exposed to the wiles and specially manipulative state of mind, body and soul dogma called love. Love doesn't exist, but you're trying to find one? The audacity to view of oneself being an exception over the TRUTH baffles my problem solving proccessor to reality. Weigh the chances of your success to how you'd specify your car's trim level unto placing an order. If she's 6/10, go with her, Las Las you too ain't perfect and a 10 to her. From history, marriage without "LOVE" initially lasts the most and more blissful.

needanswer:


Now you understand why I am bored. The love part doesn't get me (I can only believe you love me when I am broke or jobless and not when I suit your dream guy narrative) i need something else to get to me, something outside love.

TheVictim01:
Ah! This is where the virus is. So, you're now exposed to the wiles and specially manipulative state of mind, body and soul dogma called love. Love doesn't exist, but you're trying to find one? The audacity to view of oneself being an exception over the TRUTH baffles my problem solving proccessor to reality.

I am not trying to find one cause I know it doesnt exist. Unconditional love which is true love doesnt exist. I am just trying to find someone I can live long term with and not regret it ultimately.

Modified, check.

needanswer:


I am not trying to find one cause I no it doesnt exist. Unconditional love which is true love doesnt exist. I am just trying to find someone I can live long term with and not regret it ultimately.

TheVictim01:
Modified, check.

Okay

You made a point

TheVictim01:
Ah! This is where the virus is. So, you're now exposed to the wiles and specially manipulative state of mind, body and soul dogma called love. Love doesn't exist, but you're trying to find one? The audacity to view of oneself being an exception over the TRUTH baffles my problem solving proccessor to reality. Weigh the chances of your success to how you'd specify your car's trim level unto placing an order. If she's 6/10, go with her, Las Las you too ain't perfect and a 10 to her. From history, marriage without "LOVE" initially lasts the most and more blissful.

You just said something that got to me. "From history, marriage without Love initially lasts the most". I guess its cause of the lower expectations and eventually with time they bond in their own way.

Hmmm, maybe this is what I was looking for . It sounds good.

Ned nwoko 2. Lol! Hope it'll feel good also.

needanswer:


You just said something that got to me. "From history, marriage without Love initially lasts the most". I guess its cause of the lower expectations and eventually with time they bond in their own way.

Hmmm, maybe this is what I was looking for . It sounds good.

TheVictim01:
Ned nwoko 2. Lol

If you mean as a billionaire, amen. But 6 wives never. 1 is enough

Cracked me up, big time. Your choice, choose what suits ya.

needanswer:

If you mean as a billionaire, amen. But 6 wives never. 1 is enough

TheVictim01:
Cracked me up, big time. Your choice, choose what suits ya.

You too, hope your romance life is thriving too?

Just came outta Shit, now I'm good though. Dude is working his ass of to 2010 bmw 335i, sponsor Grand parents pilgrims and foot siblings school expenses. Daddy should rest small!

needanswer:


You too, hope your romance life is thriving too?

TheVictim01:
Just came outta Shit, now I'm good though. Dude is working his ass of to 2010 bmw 335i, sponsor Grand parents pilgrims and foot siblings school expenses. Daddy should rest small!

You doing good although this is more than romance.

needanswer:


You just said something that got to me. "From history, marriage without Love initially lasts the most". I guess its cause of the lower expectations and eventually with time they bond in their own way.

Hmmm, maybe this is what I was looking for . It sounds good.

No. It's because without love, both parties enter the marriage with eyes wide open, not just the woman.

RisenPhoenix1:


No. It's because without love, both parties enter the marriage with eyes wide open, not just the woman.

Another angle.