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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Nobody: 8:52am On Mar 28, 2021
AntiChristian:
Like God practically calling your name:

Samuel!

Samuẹli! (Yorùbá tongue)

Samuel!

How many times did I call you?

Then Samuel starts looking for the caller....
Yes o,


But why does Islam adapt these prophets and their stories to their quran


Or was it Mohammed who wasn't there that told you a contrary thing occurred

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Chirowman(m): 8:54am On Mar 28, 2021
Anyone who has a heavenly call do know, because your lifestyle ,dreams and conscience will aid you.and equally know that heavenly calls differs .
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by viceddy95(m): 8:57am On Mar 28, 2021
hopefulLandlord:
The level of hunger determines this. e get some kain hunger wey be say if he hold you, you go dey see vision of Jewish god talking to you

No god anywhere calls anybody, na hunger dey call person
What you wrote doesn't make sense Mr.....

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by DappaD: 8:59am On Mar 28, 2021
OP just like that oo? First introduce yourself as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or an interested person who’s studying because this was our Daily Text for yesterday which was also considered during the talk given at the Memorial. Commentators might begin to think that those words at Romans 8:15-17 apply to them meanwhile we know what’s really going on.
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by slimchimex(m): 9:01am On Mar 28, 2021
AntiChristian:
Like God practically calling your name:

Samuel!

Samuẹli! (Yorùbá tongue)

Samuel!

How many times did I call you?

Then Samuel starts looking for the caller....

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The calling is through God's holy spirit
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by slimchimex(m): 9:09am On Mar 28, 2021
ecolime:
Everyone is called. We are called to serve God and also bring people to Christ.


Please note that being called has nothing to do with opening of churches. Most Nigerian Pastors are motivated by hunger not service.

Most people claimed to be called by God just business purpose.
The call mentioned by apostle Paul is with regards to those who have the heavenly hope to rule with Christ in heaven.

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by rottennaija(m): 9:11am On Mar 28, 2021
ChocolateWine:


Kobojunkie post=100271552:
Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has a "heavenly calling".. God does not want any of them to end up in Hell. So regardless of your opinions of Paul's message, the Truth of Jesus Christ is that ALL who believe in Him are qualified to, by accepting (trusting ) and obeying His commandments, become Sons of God.

Every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive His Spirit and be given a place in Heaven. undecided

Why?

Because the earth is not habitable again or what?

So God will waste the earth just like that after spending billions of years to create it?


So we would all become angels?


Who take care of the earth? Animals?


Angels praise God every hour, every day? Have you read your bible from cover to cover once?


All what you said above does not invalidate the point he made. Earth will do just fine without humans in it. Earth does not need to be taken care of, don't think you are doing earth a favour after all, human activity destroys it.

Also, how many planets are uninhabited and are there begging for favour to to inhabited? It's not like there are not so many planets and galaxies that lies it waste... And what makes you think earth without humans will be a waste?

His post didn't say humans will become angels. That's a big fallacy. His posts said all who believe in Jesus are called. Besides, Angels praising God every hour does not invalidate that humans cannot do same.

You didn't not even address any of the things he posted. You just started by saying things he didn't say and forcing conclusions from it.
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by AntiChristian: 9:21am On Mar 28, 2021
slimchimex:


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The calling is through God's holy spirit

How did God call Samuel in the old testament?
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Olabode211: 9:21am On Mar 28, 2021
give bible to the blinds to read then you will know you have heavenly called..
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by AntiChristian: 9:23am On Mar 28, 2021
Mikecold:
Yes o,


But why does Islam adapt these prophets and their stories to their quran


Or was it Mohammed who wasn't there that told you a contrary thing occurred

Answer your matter finish before diversions! How did God call you?
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by rottennaija(m): 9:26am On Mar 28, 2021
jossytech:
Those needed in heaven already filled, rest will be on Earth stop dreaming, d heaven is for the Lord and d earth He gives the son of man. Psalm 115:16

Then Jesus said in Math 5:5 about his earthly subjects, he already talk or few rep in his kingdom in Mathew 5:3

Also remember the Lord prayer let you will take place on Earth as it's in heaven. People should stop illusion of I'm going heaven things. Heaven is not for human that why Adam was created into a garden
Already filled in 1935?
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by gaventa: 9:28am On Mar 28, 2021
No god needs any human to manifest it’s might. Anyone that says God called him or her is a Liar. A blantant one at that. How can a Jewish/Greek God call a Nigerian. Without slavery would AFricans have learnt about the Jewish Gods?
hopefulLandlord:
The level of hunger determines this. e get some kain hunger wey be say if he hold you, you go dey see vision of Jewish god talking to you

No god anywhere calls anybody, na hunger dey call person

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by ogtechinc(m): 9:31am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has a "heavenly calling".. God does not want any of them to end up in Hell. So regardless of your opinions of Paul's message, the Truth of Jesus Christ is that ALL who believe in Him are qualified to, by accepting (trusting ) and obeying His commandments, become Sons of God.

Every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive His Spirit and be given a place in Heaven. undecided

Kindly provide scriptural backing.... I am interested
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by ohosi4real(m): 9:31am On Mar 28, 2021
nice thanks for your explanation
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by gaventa: 9:34am On Mar 28, 2021
You asked a good question and if you truly have researched outside NL on this question you will understand the history of religion. All religions are Man Made. No one has seen the creator. No one met him. Abrahamic religion includes Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Judaism originated from ancient Kemet spirituality, Christianity originated from Judaism while Islam originated from Judaism and Christianity. That’s why they all have same story line. Forget what the Bible said these are just books written by people to propagate that proposed religion, There are no men of God but just ordinary men who lie that God called them. No one knows. Please go and read about Ancient kemet spirituality and it’s correlation with these three religion and you will understand better. Don’t let anyone lie to you. God does not have a religion.
Mikecold:
Yes o,


But why does Islam adapt these prophets and their stories to their quran


Or was it Mohammed who wasn't there that told you a contrary thing occurred
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by dazzlingd(m): 9:35am On Mar 28, 2021
slimchimex:
How does a person know that he or she has the heavenly calling? The answer is clearly seen in the apostle Paul’s words to those in Rome who were “called to be holy ones"

Roman's 8:15,16 says; "15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!”, 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children"

Romans 1:7 says To all those who are in Rome as God’s beloved ones, called to be holy ones: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to anointed ones that they have this heavenly calling. Jehovah leaves no doubt whatsoever in the minds and hearts of those who receive his invitation to go to heaven. (1 John 2:20) Anointed Christians do not need anyone to confirm that they are anointed.

The idea of heavenly calling is the foundation of religious scamming.

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by enambobo(m): 9:39am On Mar 28, 2021
rottennaija:


All what you said above does not invalidate the point he made. Earth will do just fine without humans in it. Earth does not need to be taken care of, don't think you are doing earth a favour after all, human activity destroys it.

Also, how many planets are uninhabited and are there begging for favour to to inhabited? It's not like there are not so many planets and galaxies that lies it waste... And what makes you think earth without humans will be a waste?

His post didn't say humans will become angels. That's a big fallacy. His posts said all who believe in Jesus are called. Besides, Angels praising God every hour does not invalidate that humans cannot do same.

You didn't not even address any of the things he posted. You just started by saying things he didn't say and forcing conclusions from it.
Thanks for your comment.
First, Comparing planet earth to other planets is uncalled for. Earth is the only planet that supports life.
Back to the point, God himself said that he did not create the earth simply for nothing but created it to be inhabited. Now I don't know if you're a Christian but you can confirm this in Isaiah 45:18 if you are.

Secondly, Jesus himself preached that some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions. I'm sure you're familiar with the Lord's prayer. Now may I ask you, what did Jesus mean when he said that his followers should pray, "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven"? Doesn't that suggest that the earth will someday become a peaceful dwelling for all as we know Heaven to be? Kindly ponder over these words.

In addition, please read Matthew 5:5. What do you make of those words of Jesus recorded there?
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by DappaD: 9:44am On Mar 28, 2021
enambobo:

Thanks for your comment.
First, Comparing planet earth to other planets is uncalled for. Earth is the only planet that supports life.
Back to the point, God himself said that he did not create the earth simply for nothing but created it to be inhabited. Now I don't know if you're a Christian but you can confirm this in Isaiah 45:18 if you are.
Secondly, Jesus himself preached that some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions. I'm sure you're familiar with the Lord's prayer. Now may I ask you, what did Jesus mean when he said that his followers should pray, "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven"? Doesn't that suggest that the earth will someday become a peaceful dwelling for all as we know Heaven to be? Kindly ponder over these words.
In addition, please read Matthew 5:5. What do you make of those words of Jesus recorded there?

From your write-up, it’s not difficult ascertaining that you are one of my brothers. That’s why I advise you to avoid the young man you’re quoting because he’s just one of those who fell out of Jehovah’s organization and hellbent on maligning Jehovah’s name.
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Sheriman(m): 9:49am On Mar 28, 2021
In this our contemporary times anybody that says God call him or her is a great lier
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by enambobo(m): 9:50am On Mar 28, 2021
DappaD:


From your write-up, it’s not difficult ascertaining that you are one of my brothers. That’s why I advise you to avoid the young man you’re quoting because he’s just one of those who fell out of Jehovah’s organization and hellbent on maligning Jehovah’s name.
Thanks for the heads-up Bro. Noted!

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:52am On Mar 28, 2021
Thank you, father.


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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by ChocolateWine(f): 9:58am On Mar 28, 2021
rottennaija:


All what you said above does not invalidate the point he made. Earth will do just fine without humans in it. Earth does not need to be taken care of, don't think you are doing earth a favour after all, human activity destroys it.

Also, how many planets are uninhabited and are there begging for favour to to inhabited? It's not like there are not so many planets and galaxies that lies it waste... And what makes you think earth without humans will be a waste?

His post didn't say humans will become angels. That's a big fallacy. His posts said all who believe in Jesus are called. Besides, Angels praising God every hour does not invalidate that humans cannot do same.

You didn't not even address any of the things he posted. You just started by saying things he didn't say and forcing conclusions from it.

THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, VERY DIRECT AND CLEAR TO A REASONABLE LAYMAN. HE CAN SHOW ME WHERE HE GOT HIS OWN FROM




Psalm 115:16
The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.

New Living Translation
The heavens belong to the LORD, but he has given the earth to all humanity.

English Standard Version
The heavens are the LORD’s heavens, but the earth he has given to the children of man.

Berean Study Bible
The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth He has given to mankind.

King James Bible
The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.


Psalm 37:29
Brenton Septuagint Translation
But the righteous shall inherit the earth, and dwell upon it for ever.

Contemporary English Version
God's people will own the land and live here forever.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But the just shall inherit the land, and shall dwell therein for evermore.

English Revised Version
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.



2 Peter 3:13
New International Version
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

New Living Translation
But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.

English Standard Version
But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Berean Study Bible
But in keeping with God’s promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.




Rev 21:3,4
GOD'S WORD® Translation
I heard a loud voice from the throne say, "God lives with humans! God will make his home with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them and be their God.

International Standard Version
I heard a loud voice from the throne say, "See, the tent of God is among humans! He will make his home with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them, and he will be their God.

Literal Standard Version
and I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God [is] with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His peoples, and God Himself will be with them [as] their God




Isa 45:18
For this is what the LORD says-- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited-- he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other.

New Living Translation
For the LORD is God, and he created the heavens and earth and put everything in place. He made the world to be lived in, not to be a place of empty chaos. “I am the LORD,” he says, “and there is no other.

English Standard Version
For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it empty, he formed it to be inhabited!): “I am the LORD, and there is no other.

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Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by 99thEnemy(m): 10:05am On Mar 28, 2021
It is when a typical black man discovers there is a loophole called 'gullibility of Christians'. People he can brainwash with preaching strictly prosperity and blackmail them with seed sowing and tithe bwahaha solely for his pocket.
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by rottennaija(m): 10:21am On Mar 28, 2021
enambobo:

Thanks for your comment.
You are most welcome to what I perceive will be a long discussion.

enambobo:

First, Comparing planet earth to other planets is uncalled for. Earth is the only planet that supports life.
Comparing planet earth to other planets and even other galaxies is very much called for. You made an unsubstantiated claim and are still making it. Absent of evidence does not mean such evidence does not exist. Making a bold statement that earth is the only planet that support life is very wrong when you have no idea what exist out there. This position can be further hard to maintain if in the future it is proven that life exist elsewhere. Claiming what we do not know when we do not know the limit of what we know is wrong. Besides, as I had said, the earth without human life is guaranteed to stay much longer than with humans in it. Humans are the virus of this earth, the earth blossoms with humans not being it it. It returns to it natural state, healing itself.

So trying to make a case for your doctrine with believe that the earth somehow needs humans does not help.

Also, there are millions of Galaxies, Millions of planets and you say earth is the only planet that supports life? How did you come about with such information? How do you even define life? Do you define life as only by flesh and blood? How about spirit life? is that not also life? Life exist in different forms, even the ones we call spirit are life forms that require a different environment to exist.


enambobo:

Back to the point, God himself said that he did not create the earth simply for nothing but created it to be inhabited. Now I don't know if you're a Christian but you can confirm this in Isaiah 45:18 if you are.
I am a christian and I know that verse. Yes. The bible says God created the earth to be inhabited.... i believe the Koran also says something similar and has it not been inhabited? It has been. But the bible also says the earth will not remain forever as it says it will. So what the point?

enambobo:

Secondly, Jesus himself preached that some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions. I'm sure you're familiar with the Lord's prayer. Now may I ask you, what did Jesus mean when he said that his followers should pray, "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven"? Doesn't that suggest that the earth will someday become a peaceful dwelling for all as we know Heaven to be? Kindly ponder over these words.
Yes I know the Lord's prayer. But never has Jesus preached that "some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions." Never. Those are assumptions you make based on reading some verses in the bible and interpreting them. If I am wrong, you can show me anywhere he said "some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions."

You said "Doesn't that suggest that the earth will someday become a peaceful dwelling". Again those are assumptions you make. Jesus specifically asked about praying for "God's will" to be done on earth. One specific reference I have about God's will is related to mankind's salvation where he said his will is for all to be save, another is in being children of God by having faith in Jesus. I will have to check for other references. But when you make claims that it is in relation to making the earth a beautiful home to live in is stretching the point.

You also seem to miss it that God has a kingdom already established, which is made of the christian congregation. Jesus laid the framework for it when on earth and that kingdom where his will is done is ongoing.

enambobo:

In addition, please read Matthew 5:5. What do you make of those words of Jesus recorded there?
Mt 5: 5 "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."
Has it ever occur to you that without being born again, that is an anointed one, you cannot inherit the earth? Who will inherit the earth? The meek. Who was the meekest man alive? Jesus. Who does God will the earth to as an inheritance? Jesus. Who does Jesus share his inheritance with? His anointed brothers.

You do not inherit what was not willed to you. If you are not Jesus brothers, you cannot inherit the earth. In fact, read the whole of Mt 5:1-13 and you will see anointed Christ brothers written all over it.
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by viceddy95(m): 10:24am On Mar 28, 2021
dazzlingd:


The idea of heavenly calling is the foundation of religious scamming.

What you wrote doesn't make sense Mr,, you don't believe in religion doesn't make it a scam...
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by paltielx: 10:33am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has a "heavenly calling".. God does not want any of them to end up in Hell. So regardless of your opinions of Paul's message, the Truth of Jesus Christ is that ALL who believe in Him are qualified to, by accepting (trusting ) and obeying His commandments, become Sons of God.

Every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive His Spirit and be given a place in Heaven. undecided
if all are going to heaven what is meaning of matthew 5:3
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Tajbol4splend(m): 10:34am On Mar 28, 2021
hopefulLandlord:
The level of hunger determines this. e get some kain hunger wey be say if he hold you, you go dey see vision of Jewish god talking to you

No god anywhere calls anybody, na hunger dey call person

Omo

Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by achorladey: 10:36am On Mar 28, 2021
slimchimex:
How does a person know that he or she has the heavenly calling? The answer is clearly seen in the apostle Paul’s words to those in Rome who were “called to be holy ones"

Roman's 8:15,16 says; "15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!”, 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children"

Romans 1:7 says To all those who are in Rome as God’s beloved ones, called to be holy ones: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to anointed ones that they have this heavenly calling. Jehovah leaves no doubt whatsoever in the minds and hearts of those who receive his invitation to go to heaven. (1 John 2:20) Anointed Christians do not need anyone to confirm that they are anointed.


Does the scripture you cited states anything related to GOING TO HEAVEN. In all the scripture cited. Do you yourself see anything relating to GOING TO HEAVEN?

Try and read the whole Romans 8:1 - to the end pick out just one verse that states GOING TO HEAVEN. Just one.

And YOU have an anointing* from the holy one;+ all of YOU have knowledge.+ 21 I write YOU, not because YOU do not know the truth,+ but because YOU know it,+ and because no lie originates with the truth.

Only anointing was mentioned here, nothing related to GOING TO HEAVEN
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Mynet11(m): 10:42am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has a "heavenly calling".. God does not want any of them to end up in Hell. So regardless of your opinions of Paul's message, the Truth of Jesus Christ is that ALL who believe in Him are qualified to, by accepting (trusting ) and obeying His commandments, become Sons of God.

Every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive His Spirit and be given a place in Heaven. undecided

If you feel that every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive his Spirit and be given a place in heaven, what about what God said at Isa 45:18; Prov 2:21; Psalm 115:16?
Am not disputing the fact that people will go to heaven, but my brother heaven is not for everybody
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by Hallabee1(m): 10:49am On Mar 28, 2021
orunto27:
There's Calling to PROPHESY. There's Calling to APOSTLESHIP AND There's Calling to come home. The SPIRIT instructs, directs and discerns these different CALLINGS.

Aje...

Explain more cus my calling is on the other side oooo. pls
Re: How Does A Person Know That He Or She Has The Heavenly Calling? by achorladey: 11:02am On Mar 28, 2021
DappaD:
OP just like that oo? First introduce yourself as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or an interested person who’s studying because this was our Daily Text for yesterday which was also considered during the talk given at the Memorial. Commentators might begin to think that those words at Romans 8:15-17 apply to them meanwhile we know what’s really going on.

Commentators might begin to think that those words at Romans 8:15-17 apply to them meanwhile we know what’s really going on....Dappad


And the bold above contradict what the Op said when he stated the below.....

So by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to anointed ones that they have this heavenly calling. Anointed Christians do not need anyone to confirm that they are anointed.......slimchimex


The question becomes who are you to determine to whom it applies to or not? cheesy grin. Na you dey confirm the ANOINTING? grin

Perhaps tell the Op to restrict the message to your religious group. It's of no use here when it does not apply to those contributing to it here.

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