enambobo:

Thanks for the heads-up Bro. Noted!

slimchimex:
How does a person know that he or she has the heavenly calling? The answer is clearly seen in the apostle Paul’s words to those in Rome who were “called to be holy ones"

Roman's 8:15,16 says; "15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!”, 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children"

Romans 1:7 says To all those who are in Rome as God’s beloved ones, called to be holy ones: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to anointed ones that they have this heavenly calling. Jehovah leaves no doubt whatsoever in the minds and hearts of those who receive his invitation to go to heaven. (1 John 2:20) Anointed Christians do not need anyone to confirm that they are anointed.

gaventa:
You asked a good question and if you truly have researched outside NL on this question you will understand the history of religion. All religions are Man Made. No one has seen the creator. No one met him. Abrahamic religion includes Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Judaism originated from ancient Kemet spirituality, Christianity originated from Judaism while Islam originated from Judaism and Christianity. That’s why they all have same story line. Forget what the Bible said these are just books written by people to propagate that proposed religion, There are no men of God but just ordinary men who lie that God called them. No one knows. Please go and read about Ancient kemet spirituality and it’s correlation with these three religion and you will understand better. Don’t let anyone lie to you. God does not have a religion.

rottennaija:
You are most welcome to what I perceive will be a long discussion.


Comparing planet earth to other planets and even other galaxies is very much called for. You made an unsubstantiated claim and are still making it. Absent of evidence does not mean such evidence does not exist. Making a bold statement that earth is the only planet that support life is very wrong when you have no idea what exist out there. This position can be further hard to maintain if in the future it is proven that life exist elsewhere. Claiming what we do not know when we do not know the limit of what we know is wrong. Besides, as I had said, the earth without human life is guaranteed to stay much longer than with humans in it. Humans are the virus of this earth, the earth blossoms with humans not being it it. It returns to it natural state, healing itself.

So trying to make a case for your doctrine with believe that the earth somehow needs humans does not help.

Also, there are millions of Galaxies, Millions of planets and you say earth is the only planet that supports life? How did you come about with such information? How do you even define life? Do you define life as only by flesh and blood? How about spirit life? is that not also life? Life exist in different forms, even the ones we call spirit are life forms that require a different environment to exist.



I am a christian and I know that verse. Yes. The bible says God created the earth to be inhabited.... i believe the Koran also says something similar and has it not been inhabited? It has been. But the bible also says the earth will not remain forever as it says it will. So what the point?


Yes I know the Lord's prayer. But never has Jesus preached that "some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions." Never. Those are assumptions you make based on reading some verses in the bible and interpreting them. If I am wrong, you can show me anywhere he said "some of his followers will reside here on earth forever under peaceful conditions."

You said "Doesn't that suggest that the earth will someday become a peaceful dwelling". Again those are assumptions you make. Jesus specifically asked about praying for "God's will" to be done on earth. One specific reference I have about God's will is related to mankind's salvation where he said his will is for all to be save, another is in being children of God by having faith in Jesus. I will have to check for other references. But when you make claims that it is in relation to making the earth a beautiful home to live in is stretching the point.

You also seem to miss it that God has a kingdom already established, which is made of the christian congregation. Jesus laid the framework for it when on earth and that kingdom where his will is done is ongoing.


Mt 5: 5 "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."
Has it ever occur to you that without being born again, that is an anointed one, you cannot inherit the earth? Who will inherit the earth? The meek. Who was the meekest man alive? Jesus. Who does God will the earth to as an inheritance? Jesus. Who does Jesus share his inheritance with? His anointed brothers.

You do not inherit what was not willed to you. If you are not Jesus brothers, you cannot inherit the earth. In fact, read the whole of Mt 5:1-13 and you will see anointed Christ brothers written all over it.

Kobojunkie:
Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has a "heavenly calling".. God does not want any of them to end up in Hell. So regardless of your opinions of Paul's message, the Truth of Jesus Christ is that ALL who believe in Him are qualified to, by accepting (trusting ) and obeying His commandments, become Sons of God.

Every single person who does what Jesus Christ commands will receive His Spirit and be given a place in Heaven.

Contango:
I might sound condescending here but I’ve got no other way of putting it in all honestly.

It is very dangerous to put the Bible or Quran in the hands of people with very low IQ

slimchimex:
How does a person know that he or she has the heavenly calling? The answer is clearly seen in the apostle Paul’s words to those in Rome who were “called to be holy ones"

Roman's 8:15,16 says; "15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!”, 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children"

Romans 1:7 says To all those who are in Rome as God’s beloved ones, called to be holy ones: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to anointed ones that they have this heavenly calling. Jehovah leaves no doubt whatsoever in the minds and hearts of those who receive his invitation to go to heaven. (1 John 2:20) Anointed Christians do not need anyone to confirm that they are anointed.

Emperorlanky:



You have no proof? Do you?
How can you be breathing and reason like this? Who or what is the source of the air you breath in and out? What about the marvel of how the brain is designed? How humans and animals conceived and give birth to young ones alive? The wonders of how a plant grow and produce fruit? Evidence of God in the world around us are abundant even for the blinds to see.

makermix:
no one does anymore, its either d person is jobless or looking for quick money tru tithe n offering

hopefulLandlord:
The level of hunger determines this. e get some kain hunger wey be say if he hold you, you go dey see vision of Jewish god talking to you

No god anywhere calls anybody, na hunger dey call person

rottennaija:


All what you said above does not invalidate the point he made. Earth will do just fine without humans in it. Earth does not need to be taken care of, don't think you are doing earth a favour after all, human activity destroys it.

Also, how many planets are uninhabited and are there begging for favour to to inhabited? It's not like there are not so many planets and galaxies that lies it waste... And what makes you think earth without humans will be a waste?

His post didn't say humans will become angels. That's a big fallacy. His posts said all who believe in Jesus are called. Besides, Angels praising God every hour does not invalidate that humans cannot do same.

You didn't not even address any of the things he posted. You just started by saying things he didn't say and forcing conclusions from it.

Denuga91:


What was the purpose for creating the earth in the first place?
Is it the planet earth that sinned or humans?
Was the first man and woman created in heaven or on earth
If Adam had not sinned, would there be a need to go to the even?
The bible says those going to heaven are going there to rule has king and priest. If all good people are going to heaven, who are they going to rule over? Afterall a kingdom has a king, co-rulers and sunjects

Emperorlanky:



Na wa o! You just leave the substance and start chasing shadows. I endured reading your epistle hoping to make any meaning of it but ahhhhhhh! Empty. So, when God take all righteous people to heaven, what happens to the earth? Give scriptural backing please. Because I couldn't find any above to support your point. Thanks.

rottennaija:

Any idea? Or you want to look at everything through the lens of the Bible that was written when human have limited understanding of the universe around it?

Oracleforce:
You are muddling things up here...
Heavenly calling: there is a call to be saved (Salvation) and there are calls into the greater heavenly assignment.

Hebrews 5:4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron."

ogtechinc:
Kindly provide scriptural backing.... I am interested

John 8 vs 31-47
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31. So Jesus said to the Jews who believed in him, “If you continue to accept and obey my teaching, you are really my followers.
32. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
33. They answered, “We are Abraham’s descendants. And we have never been slaves. So why do you say that we will be free?”
34. Jesus said, “The truth is, everyone who sins is a slave—a slave to sin.
35. A slave does not stay with a family forever. But a son belongs to the family forever.
36. So if the Son makes you free, you are really free.

John 15 vs 1-11(ESV)
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1. “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.
2. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
3. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you.
4. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.
5. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
6. If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.
7. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
8. By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.
9. As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love.
10. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
11. These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.

rottennaija:


All what you said above does not invalidate the point he made. Earth will do just fine without humans in it. Earth does not need to be taken care of, don't think you are doing earth a favour after all, human activity destroys it.

Also, how many planets are uninhabited and are there begging for favour to to inhabited? It's not like there are not so many planets and galaxies that lies it waste... And what makes you think earth without humans will be a waste?

His post didn't say humans will become angels. That's a big fallacy. His posts said all who believe in Jesus are called. Besides, Angels praising God every hour does not invalidate that humans cannot do same.

You didn't not even address any of the things he posted. You just started by saying things he didn't say and forcing conclusions from it.

jcross19:
The calling is talking about is the one of either been a Shepherd or looking for lost sheep's..

Kobojunkie:
There is only one Shepherd for His Sheep and that is Jesus Christ. He alone is the good shepherd... any other person who installs himself as shepherd over Jesus Christ's flock is a fraud!

There are no special "Heavenly callings". Instead, the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven calls everyone to believe and become born of the Spirit/Sons of God in order that they might enjoy the Kingdom of Heaven in the end. Unfortunately, many who believe will instead be deceived by doctrines such as theses into occupying the Kingdom of Hell instead.

ChocolateWine:
Why?

ChocolateWine:
Because the earth is not habitable again or what?

ChocolateWine:
So God will waste the earth just like that after spending billions of years to create it?

ChocolateWine:
So we would all become angels?

ChocolateWine:
Who take care of the earth? Animals?

ChocolateWine:
Angels praise God every hour, every day? Have you read your bible from cover to cover once?

DappaD:
OP just like that oo? First introduce yourself as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or an interested person who’s studying because this was our Daily Text for yesterday which was also considered during the talk given at the Memorial. Commentators might begin to think that those words at Romans 8:15-17 apply to them meanwhile we know what’s really going on.

Nuttella:
I was told in my dream that I am a prophet. In the dream, we were many, the cloud changed, we all knelt down outside and kept saying "Lord I am ready", I also said that, then God brought a red limozine car and prophets were entering, then a woman said if she sees a prophet that she will know, then she brought out a book which the names of prophets are written, my name was there, she pointed at me and said that I am a prophet.

Before the dream, two different prophets told me that I am a prophet but I rejected it and didnt believe them, till I had the dream, e shock me. Though I have been manifesting dream revelation gift, I dream about things that will happen.

jcross19:
funny another name for Shepherd is a pastor so get that fact... It's clear that you lack bible understanding, john the Baptist was called to prepare way for Christ the same Jesus chose 12 disciples for His ministry, and prayed for more labourers.... Paul too was a chosen vessel as well even all those bandits, killer herdsmen and bokoharams some of them have an heavenly mandate too..

Kobojunkie:
Guess what? Every one of Jesus Christ's followers(Jesus Christ abides in them)i.e. born again, is a prophet for no longer does God speak through some, but all of His followers.

Nuttella:
I don't have strength to argue with you this night. You have started with everybody is a prophet talk, come and prophecy the future events to me. You think simple prophecy that os used for exaltation and confort is same with prophesying future event and plans of God is the same. All of us are called but some of us are called into the 5 fold ministry.