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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by fregeneh(m): 12:18am On Apr 26
UGBE634:
I believe Eredieuwa who was born in 1923 should know better about his line than you a slimy bastard from oshogbo. besides he is far more educated than any of his ancestors with a first degree and masters in law from cambridge University. And with education you know one can't be easily deceived I will take his account over his ancestors

can we then conclude that those ancestors of his whom did not have any western education and by so doing couldn't arranged or articulate their own oral history properly are bunch of... I.D.O.I.T.S
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 4:29am On Apr 26
AreaFada2:


My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to post for rational but silent readers.
Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society. Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British. Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better. In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line. It is usually in response to the morning salutations below:

Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related. Ohemwen family also greet Lavbieze so such greeters from that line are related.
Ezomo descendants- Lagiesan
Ero descendants- Lamosun
Edohen descendants- Latose or Lauvbe
Eholor n'Ire descendants- Laire
Oloton descendants- Lamehi
Edogun descendants- Lagiemwan
Ogiefa descendants- Laidu. Idu direct descendants also greet Laidu
Iyase of Udo -Lagiemwan (normally considered quasi Enogie/Duke of Udo but can be replaced in the role by Uwangue of Udo. No substantive duke in Udo since defeat of Prince Aruaran who was duke of Udo about 500 years ago).
Elawure of Usen descendants- Delaihe
Ojima of Okeluhen descendants- Laugha.
Enogie/Duke of Egor descendants- Lauihe
Iyase of Uselu descendants- Layede

There are dozens more.


Thanks bro..
I'm from Iyase of Uselu family..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:50am On Apr 26
UGBE634:
I believe Eredieuwa who was born in 1923 should know better about his line than you a slimy bastard from oshogbo. besides he is far more educated than any of his ancestors with a first degree and masters in law from Cambridge University. And with education you know can't be easily deceived I will take his account over his ancestors
Oh you believe Erediauwa who was born in 1923. But you don’t believe his father (Akenzua-2) and his grand father (Eweka-2) — and their predecessors — because they all were suffering from collective amnesia.

Oh! Or because Erediauwa lived before them and was closer to the distant past than them. LMAO!

Also, you chose to NOT believe the historians of African history who agree with these predecessors, while also debunking Erediauwa’s 1970s fiction as being rooted in inferiority complex.

It must be a really tough job defending the modern day Benin forgery.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:51am On Apr 26
AreaFada2:
My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to[/s]
AreaDullard 2 of Benin kingdom! By the way who is AreaDullard 1? Could that be Okon? Because he has a wonderfully-low IQ just like yours.

post for rational but silent readers.
I will debunk any Benin lie found on this thread as I always do. And I would do so with evidence.

Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society.
Em-kini undecided If I hear empire I will stone you shit.

You want to turn African history into a joke by calling Benin an empire. Ruling a couple of surrounding Edo villages is NOT the definition of empire.

Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British.
I give you a pass mark here. But they are all still slaves of the Oba — they are not members of his family from Ife.

Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
The actual word in the Benin contexts is not “servant,” neither is it “subject,” it is called “slave” — S-L-A-V-E .

However, the members of his family are not his slaves like you the general populace. Yes they are his subject, but the term slave is reserved for you natives whom the Ife son met on ground.

@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people
Open to be force-fed with the Yoruba language by your Yoruba masters from Ife? LMAO!

who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better.
Expan-kini ??

Expanded to ‘west’? Yet those whom you allegedly expanded to dominate were imposing their words on you instead of the other way round. Expanded ko, contracted ni

Oh okay! Expanded to cover some surrounding Edo villages. Got it.

In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line.
Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related.
Well, you forgot to include some orikis (praise titles) of your oba — his Yoruba orikis to be precise, some of which are:

(1) Ọba (”OBA), (2) Àdìmúlà (”ADIMILA [sic]), (3) Õṣà-[Ì]kejì (”O SAKEJI [sic]).

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Reference: Richard. E. Dennett; “At The Back of the Black Man’s Mind”: Or Notes on the Kingly Office in West Africa; London, Macmillan and Co., Limited (The New York Macmillan Company); 1906, p. 181.

Cheers!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 6:30am On Apr 26
TAO12:
Dear Bini dullards (gregyboy, AreaFada2, UGBE634, Fezz, et al.):

Do you all agree with Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ that the man in the picture below is the latest Benin dullard in town???

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13448159_01e8ea2aea8041fda42c86741a99bcdf_webp_webpb0165618fdf9e64003654153139e270f

Thank you for your anticipated and honest replies.

Kind Regards,
Tao
.

Original Playboy turns Ooni whose ancestors fought spirits from heaven, believe this you believe any shit

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:39am On Apr 26
KingOKON:
Original Playboy turns Ooni whose ancestors fought spirits from heaven, believe this you believe any shit
You mean any shit like Mr. Idu growing out from the ground in Edo state??? cheesy

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 7:06am On Apr 26
TAO12:
You mean any shit like Mr. Idu growing out from the ground in Edo state??? cheesy
.

No shit like I am TAO11 or TAO12 the only Bobrisky and I specialize in talking rubbish

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:06am On Apr 26
KingOKON:
••• and I specialize in talking rubbish
We already know. cheesy

Tell us what we don’t know, oh you OKON with the wonderfully-low IQ.

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 10:53am On Apr 26
TAO12:
We already know. cheesy

Tell us what we don’t know, oh you OKON with the wonderfully-low IQ.


Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:11am On Apr 26

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 1:49pm On Apr 26
AreaFada2:


My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur. grin cheesy
Don't waste your precious time with him except to post for rational but silent readers.
Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society. Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British. Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter. grin cheesy
@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better. In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line. It is usually in response to the morning salutations below:

Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related. Ohemwen family also greet Lavbieze so such greeters from that line are related.
Ezomo descendants- Lagiesan
Ero descendants- Lamosun
Edohen descendants- Latose or Lauvbe
Eholor n'Ire descendants- Laire
Oloton descendants- Lamehi
Edogun descendants- Lagiemwan
Ogiefa descendants- Laidu. Idu direct descendants also greet Laidu
Iyase of Udo -Lagiemwan (normally considered quasi Enogie/Duke of Udo but can be replaced in the role by Uwangue of Udo. No substantive duke in Udo since defeat of Prince Aruaran who was duke of Udo about 500 years ago).
Elawure of Usen descendants- Delaihe
Ojima of Okeluhen descendants- Laugha.
Enogie/Duke of Egor descendants- Lauihe
Iyase of Uselu descendants- Layede

There are dozens more.

You amaze me with the level of your claim that you understand Bini history but it's obvious you have hatred for your yoruba ancestry grin cheesy.

Perhaps, you did this evil consciously or unconsciously by not identifying Oshin, Ogun,Oramiya who were Eweka 1 ancestors and before Oṣìn, there were many ancestors .Kindly readjust the ommitted grin Ogun and Oramiya, who were seasoned warriors and forebear of Oba Ọwọká (Eweka 1 ).

Therefore to be a bit justified, kindly modify you Oba Bini's geneology accordingly. And be rest assured Ekelederan had DESCENDANTS in Ughoton and also died in Ughoton. So also his descendants live in Gwato till end of time.

Honestly,I will appreciate if you stop posting false
information to support your view because you have hatred toward Yorubas Race. Unfortunately for you, the same Yoruba bloodline boost your intellectual capacity. After all, you wouldn't have become a refined educated person if you have Bini bloodline and others who travel across to Europe only to hustle on streets.So, kudos on your field of specialisation.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 2:02pm On Apr 26

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 2:12pm On Apr 26
Olu317:
You amaze me with the level of your claim that you understand Bini history but it's obvious you have hatred for your yoruba ancestry grin cheesy.

Perhaps, you did this evil consciously or unconsciously by not identifying Oshin, Ogun,Oramiya who were Eweka 1 ancestors and before Oṣìn, there were many ancestors .Kindly readjust the ommitted grin Ogun and Oramiya, who were seasoned warriors and forebear of Oba Ọwọká (Eweka 1 ).

Therefore to be a bit justified, kindly modify you Oba Bini's geneology accordingly. And be rest assured Ekelederan had DESCENDANTS in Ughoton and also died in Ughoton. So also his descendants live in Gwato till end of time.

Honestly,I will appreciate if you stop posting false
information to support your view because you have hatred toward Yorubas Race. Unfortunately for you, the same Yoruba bloodline boost your intellectual capacity. After all, you wouldn't have become a refined educated person if you have Bini bloodline and others who travel across to Europe only to hustle on streets.So, kudos on your field of specialisation.

Do you know that we Edos have always believed that we are greater and powerful than the Yorubas? Its a belief we have had for over a 1000 years and continue to.
so all the rubbish you and your likes post doesn't change a thing..
Edo remains EDORODION over the Yorubas..

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:52pm On Apr 26
KingOKON:
Ears but no ears, eyes but no eyes.
He has done it again.

Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ.

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:56pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:
Do you know that we Edos have always believed that we are greater and powerful than the Yorubas? Its a belief we have had for over a 1000 years and continue to.
so all the rubbish you and your likes post doesn't change a thing..
Edo remains EDORODION over the Yorubas
Even a snail perhaps believes within itself that its “horns” are stronger than a ram’s. cheesy

Self-consoling reactive beliefs are welcome. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 3:43pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:


Do you know that we Edos have always believed that we are greater and powerful than the Yorubas? Its a belief we have had for over a 1000 years and continue to.
so all the rubbish you and your likes post doesn't change a thing..
Edo remains EDORODION over the Yorubas..
Are you for real ? Please, I do not entertain trash so, kindly go study to know your history. Your whole Bini that her population is not more than 500,000 thousands angry cheesy
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 4:18pm On Apr 26
Olu317:
Are you for real ? Please, I do not entertain trash so, kindly go study to know your history. Your whole Bini that her population is not more than 500,000 thousands angry cheesy

500 or 500k, we still remain greater than Yorubas.. our greatness wasn't born out of dreams or fairytales.. we achieved it through conquests of mostly the yorubas..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:42pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:
500 or 500k, we still remain greater than Yorubas.. our greatness wasn't born out of dreams or fairytales.. we achieved it through conquests of mostly the yorubas..
Type the following statements 60 times each, and I promise you they will change to truth:

(1) “We [are] ... greater than Yorubas

(2) “We achieved [greatness] ... through conquests of ... the Yorubas

60 times each let’s go, I’ll be counting for you. cheesy

Cheers!
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 4:50pm On Apr 26
TAO12:
Type the following statements 60 times each, and I promise you it will change to truth.

(1) “We [are] ... greater than Yorubas”

(2) “We achieved [greatness] ... through conquest of ... the Yorubas”

60 times each; I’ll be counting for you, let’s go.

I know u are embarrassed by records that says; the Edo people of Benin kingdom conquered and ruled the yoruba people..
Too bad and embarrassing for you the records are not going anywhere..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 4:51pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:
I know u are embarrassed by records that says; the Edo people of Benin kingdom conquered and ruled the yoruba people..
Too bad and embarrassing for you the records are not going anywhere..
One!

Fifty-nine more repetitions to go in order to convert lies to truth. cheesy

You can do this. grin

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 5:14pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:


500 or 500k, we still remain greater than Yorubas.. our greatness wasn't born out of dreams or fairytales.. we achieved it through conquests of mostly the yorubas..
Are you aware Ekelderan had descendants in Ughoton and died in Ughoton ? grin grin. Bini and lies are best of friends.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 5:25pm On Apr 26
TAO12:
One!

Fifty-nine more repetition to go in order to convert lies to truth. cheesy

You can do this. grin

I ljust love history... it gives me bragging rights over you for life.. your only option is to be an argumentative person which u are already suffering from and i love that na we cause am for u..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 5:29pm On Apr 26
Olu317:
Are you aware Ekelderan had descendants in Ughoton and died in Ughoton ? grin grin. Bini and lies are best of friends.

I'm aware that you are not Edo..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 5:33pm On Apr 26
Olu317:
Are you for real ? Please, I do not entertain trash so, kindly go study to know your history. Your whole Bini that her population is not more than 500,000 thousands angry cheesy

I think your numbers was still larger than ours about 700years ago when we first conquered and then ruled your ancestors for a 700years.. u had the numbers and we had the power..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 5:53pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:
I ljust love history... it gives me bragging rights over you for life.. your only option is to be an argumentative person which u are already suffering from and i love that na we cause am for u..
You didn’t repeat the Benin lie this time around.

I wish you did, I would have informed you that you have 58 more repetitions to go in order to convert Benin lie to truth. grin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 5:56pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:
I think your numbers was still larger than ours about 700years ago when we first conquered and then ruled your ancestors for a 700years.. u had the numbers and we had the power..
Oh, he finally did!

So, “two”! grin

Fifty-eight more repetitions to go in order to convert lies to truth.

You can do this. cheesy
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 6:14pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:


I'm aware that you are not Edo..
How can I be Edo? I am 100% Yoruba blood. Even your king whose ancestors came from my ancestors lineage remained proud about it. Did you hear the part,where Oba Ewuare II in his remarks, during his coronation mentioned that Oba as a word came from Yorubaland ? or where he said the first Oba of Igodomigodo turned Bini was Oramiya ? grin angry.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 7:37pm On Apr 26
Olu317:
You amaze me with the level of your claim that you understand Bini history but it's obvious you have hatred for your yoruba ancestry grin cheesy.

Perhaps, you did this evil consciously or unconsciously by not identifying Oshin, Ogun,Oramiya who were Eweka 1 ancestors and before Oṣìn, there were many ancestors .Kindly readjust the ommitted grin Ogun and Oramiya, who were seasoned warriors and forebear of Oba Ọwọká (Eweka 1 ).

Therefore to be a bit justified, kindly modify you Oba Bini's geneology accordingly. And be rest assured Ekelederan had DESCENDANTS in Ughoton and also died in Ughoton. So also his descendants live in Gwato till end of time.

Honestly,I will appreciate if you stop posting false
information to support your view because you have hatred toward Yorubas Race. Unfortunately for you, the same Yoruba bloodline boost your intellectual capacity. After all, you wouldn't have become a refined educated person if you have Bini bloodline and others who travel across to Europe only to hustle on streets.So, kudos on your field of specialisation.
That fraud is a common thing in Yoruba land is not in doubt, your Oba is on front page and he is arrested for fraud. That your women with eniola-badmus like shape with the libido of an animal to boot are the most unfaithful in relationship is not in doubt. That marriage is not even a restraint is not in doubt. That the yorubas are the most imbecilic coneheaded slowpoke in Nigeria is not in doubt.

To address the issue of population you raised, that we are the majority in Edo state is not in doubt. That we are the most traveled minority in Nigeria is also not in doubt, that a sincere census will shock you guys is also not in doubt. That in the last election in Edo state, diaspora voting was thoroughly thought of is also not in doubt. That the guys in Edo have since traveled and bridge the gap in education et all is also not in doubt. That DR DON PEDRO OBASEKI said that his family unit is over hundred thousand is also not in contention on arise tv. That his family is not even among the oldest in Edo is also not in doubt. that his family is not among the largest in Edo is also not in doubt.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 8:40pm On Apr 26
davidnazee:


I think your numbers was still larger than ours about 700years ago when we first conquered and then ruled your ancestors for a 700years.. u had the numbers and we had the power..
Lol. Are you aware that your Ekeladeran had descendants in Ughoton ?
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:19pm On Apr 26
UGBE634:
That fraud is a common thing in Yoruba land is not in doubt, your Oba is on front page and he is arrested for fraud. That your women with eniola-badmus like shape with the libido of an animal to boot are the most unfaithful in relationship is not in doubt. That marriage is not even a restraint is not in doubt. That the yorubas are the most imbecilic coneheaded slowpoke in Nigeria is not in doubt.

To address the issue of population you raised, that we are the majority in Edo state is not in doubt. That we are the most traveled minority in Nigeria is also not in doubt, that a sincere census will shock you guys is also not in doubt. That in the last election in Edo state, diaspora voting was thoroughly thought of is also not in doubt. That the guys in Edo have since traveled and bridge the gap in education et all is also not in doubt. That DR DON PEDRO OBASEKI said that his family unit is over hundred thousand is also not in contention on arise tv. That his family is not even among the oldest in Edo is also not in doubt. that his family is not among the largest in Edo is also not in doubt.
The minority complex syndrome on full display, as well as a load of the usually expected incoherent jibber-jabber.

See link for an interesting information. Perhaps fraud is indeed a YoRuBa tHanG /s:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-metro-west-african-prince-indicted-20180726-story.html%3foutputType=amp

In addition to this, let’s not even talk again about Erediauwa’s and his sons fraudulent redaction.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 8:37am On Apr 27
TAO12:
He has done it again.

Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ.
.

Bobrisky still talking...

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:05am On Apr 27
KingOKON:
Bobrisky still talking
Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ:

Did Ewuare-2 eventually agree with you that he is the latest Bini dullard in town??? cheesy

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