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Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:30am On May 23, 2021 |
sonmvayina: Oh insane man, when will thou be well enough to real eyes that a notice of objection is merely an expression of opinion and not the establishment of Truth? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Judas1X: 10:36am On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:You are an irredeemable retardd. Take a pen and write down, you unhinged bastard. "Supernatural" means something that is not natural, or exists outside the realms of nature. Going by this definition, there is nothing that can be called "supernatural". Everything that is known to exist or will ever exist is within the folds of nature. YOU CAN NEVER EVER OFFER UNDENIABLE PROOF OF A SUPERNATURAL REALM. Ignorance is the reason we may think something is supernatural. Science for instance hasn't yet unravelled many things. What is undiscovered as yet by science is considered as something supernatural, while it is not. All strange occurrences are simply suspensions of the known natural laws. We may not understand them now, but we will eventually. Just like how thunder and lightning used to be a mystery. You are not only a science illiterate, your father will regret ever fathering a waste of fück and fluid like you when he watches me give you the education you so refuse to accept. So, you have the right to sucide your life, it is still your life you waste and not another! Unless of course you are murder suicider![/b]Oh boy shut your cesspit, you're a disgrace to education and knowledge. Mega class itibolibo!!! 1 Like |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Judas1X: 10:36am On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Since they're so clear, can you provide a list of these THINGS that you keep yapping about?? Because they are simply exercising their personal Right and Permission to Choose A Lie and Reject the Truth!Your god is supposedly omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient, yet he cannot think of a way to make the knowledge of his existence universally observable to the children he loves. The existence of atheists and pagans is a testament to the incompetence of your impotent god. The existence of atheists alone is solid proof that your god is fake. You, Dtruthspeaker, are solid proof that god is a product of fevered imaginations, because if he really existed, he wouldn't use an arrogant bumbling illiterate like you to spread his gospel. Eramefefe!! 2 Likes |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by sonmvayina(m): 10:37am On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: You know deep down that your comment here don't make any sense....you still go ahead and click submit. Try and take time to read and digest before you put it out here....and when somebody points out the gaps in your point, dont go fighting....we all learn everyday. It is OK not to know... |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by sonmvayina(m): 10:41am On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker hope you are following this thread...Go to school, you won't. Get sense you won't.... See as dem use you take they clean ground.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by LordReed(m): 10:54am On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: When you have evidence for the existence of soul, spirit or afterlife feel free to present it. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Judas1X: 11:02am On May 23, 2021 |
sonmvayina:He will smell his nyansh today. Nobody has had his time on this forum. He thinks he's a big man. Lmfao 1 Like |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:35am On May 23, 2021 |
Judas1X: Easy! 1) You saw the first one "Judgement of God when it Arrives" which you said was "Natural" but now you agree that you have seen that there are things which have happened to people which is Above and Beyond Natural. So no argument there and that one is in the bag! 2) The others are "Favour": Every one knows that Favour is Abnormal, what is normal is to receive the grudgingly given kindness which is even sometimes fought for. But Favour is Distinct because you get good things Too easily, without fight or even complaint or even asking for them. What people call "Open Doors" over above the Normal of Shut Doors and doors being hesitantly open or forced to be open, if not, no good for you to receive. That is the Power of the Abnormality of Favour 3) Blessings! Just like Favour, WHICH IS GOOD THINGS ONLY HAPPENING, ALL THE TIME TO THE BLESSED PERSON WHILE ALL OTHERS, EVEN ON THAT SAME ROAD, STRUGGLE ALONG. NO BAD THING HAPPENS TO THEM EVEN WHEN IT HAPPENED TO YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME POSITION. This has been seen and you know someone who all these things happened to maybe your classmate, neighbour or colleague! 4) Curses! The Opposite of Blessing: You have seen and known a certain person who "Every bad and worse thing happens to and happens to him alone as though Someone marked him and instructed that when evil goes around, they must always pay him a visit, without fail. All these things are Seen and they are not hidden. Judas1X: The Proof of Carpenter is His Chair; The Proof of an Engineer is His Engine, The Proof of Water is "Wetness" and the Proof of Fire is Burning and Heat. Does A Carpenter or an Engineer prove himself to his work? No! It is not done! You will never do that and so God has a Right to never do that! Just say that you are just taking this opportunity to insult God, Exactly as the Bible said, for you do not have anything reasonable or True to say. Judas1X: Did I not say it? Because you do not have anything reasonable and True to say, but to come and prove the Truth of the Bible which had foresaid that scoffers and insulters will come on the Last Days! Judas1X: Stupid! You Prove The Truth of God in that He Fore-said you would come and here you are! You have arrived as He Fore-Said! Judas1X: And here arrives the Legendary Insults of Losers when they see that they have lost their matter and can never prevail! |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Image123(m): 11:40am On May 23, 2021 |
LordReed: Of course, there's evidence but they're not scientific. They are beyond science |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 11:41am On May 23, 2021 |
Image123: You are speaking like a lay man...something i know you are not. All the scenerios you have mentioned have contributing factors. Some thing you have decided to ignore completely. Things are not measured in isolation...that is sociology and psychology, contributing factors are very important. Thats why human behaviour, majority of the time,can be predicted...and any odd behaviour is seen as an anomaly. These things cannot be measured sure, but they can be consistent enough to be proven. Besides, thats not the point, can the soul be proven? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:43am On May 23, 2021 |
Judas1X: And yet you could not say any reasonable or True thing rather you went straight to insults. Did you not hear that He who attempts to establish his argument by insults and noise shows that he has nothing to give? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 11:48am On May 23, 2021 |
Image123: If God acknowledges the day night cycle, then he or she is bound by it. Simple...don't try to twist it any how. If you acknowledge it and work according to it, then you are bound by it. You speak as if time only relates to age. An immortal who cannot work in the day is still bound by time... Doesnt make that person mortal. Obviously, according to the bible, he didnt work at night. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Image123(m): 11:52am On May 23, 2021 |
kimco: Which of the scenarios i gave is a natural anomaly? Every human being has different and distinct personalities and motives. Science is specific, measurable, principled and easily predictable. Individual emotions are not. You can't measure laughter or happiness or joy scientifically. You can't detect betrayal or envy in the laboratory. What contributing factors do you need to have the same level of love ? What is science? Emotions for instance are sure proof that you have a soul, they come primarily from the soul. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 11:53am On May 23, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: He is omnipotent....he didnt need six days...thats my point. Also why is he bound by time so much that he had to wait till the mornings to continue his work? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Image123(m): 11:54am On May 23, 2021 |
kimco: Did not is not the same as can not. Don't get it twisted. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by KnownUnknown: 12:14pm On May 23, 2021 |
Image123: Emotions are description of brain states influenced by internal and external factors. The rapper DMX was very emotional in his art and life. Then he overdosed while trying to soothe certain emotions that caused him suffering, which led to the death or malfunctioning of significant portions of his brain. Subsequently, he was alive but the brain was in a “vegetative” state, which meant he could not emote. Clearly, his emotions were the results of different brain states and when the brain malfunctioned the emotions stopped. If emotions were dependent on something called soul, the guy would still be alive displaying emotions despite the brain being in a vegetative state. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Kobojunkie: 12:16pm On May 23, 2021 |
kimco:1. The writer, who happens to be human, wrote that it took six days. If God wanted to draw the work out for 1000 days, He could have if He wanted to, nothing wrong with that even for an omnipotent being but in this case, He, as claimed by the author, did it in 6 days. 2. He waited till the morning to continue His work? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:24pm On May 23, 2021 |
LordReed: We've had this argument before and I showed you and when you could not reasonably rebut nor counter it, you chose to insult me. The bottom line is that you will never accept the evidence and there is nothing I or anyone can do about it exactly as no can force you to accept that it is not raining in Lagos right now, whilst you insist that it is raining. So it is an effort in futility with you like trying to show a blind man a naked woman. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by KnownUnknown: 12:25pm On May 23, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The only reason that God didn’t draw out the work for 1000 days is because it was the writer’s choice. If the writer had chosen to write that it took 10 days, you would be here claiming that God could have done the work in 7 days if he wanted to. Hell, god is only omnipotent because some other writer said so. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 12:38pm On May 23, 2021 |
djsjxjfjdisjdjb: No scientific reference for the silver cord as fat as i have searched. How about you show me what i should be seeing. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Kobojunkie: 12:40pm On May 23, 2021 |
KnownUnknown:I didn't say any of that. God did exactly what God wanted to do. It is really just that simple! The writer, bound under the laws of time, expressed exactly that. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Nobody: 12:49pm On May 23, 2021 |
kimco: metaphysics just like science is a field of study, the way you also believe in your so called science is also thethe way others believe in other areas of study. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 12:59pm On May 23, 2021 |
Image123: I didnt say your examples are anomalies. I am saying you have disregarded the influencers, you assume these things are measured in a vacuum. They are not. Science isn't necessary specific, who told you that? Science gives the best possible answer to questions asked...that best possible answer isn't always 100 but consistently reproducible. Consistent doesn't mean 100% either. When things are measured especially human behaviour, we accept the general consensus (through experimentation and research by observation) as the best possible explanation. We cannot account for every single human being on earth...not possible. If a human being smiles while watching a gruesome murder we assume something is wrong...cos the consensus is that, all things being equal, a human being should not be smiling in that case. That's the anomaly I'm talking about Science doesn't always include a lab and test tubes, there are many tools for testing. Your post tells me your view on science is very narrow. Let me guess, you don't think psychology is a science right? There is a reason why a lady wanting to make her lover jealous will engage in certain things....she knows he is very likely to be jealous...if he isnt, she is shocked... |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:06pm On May 23, 2021 |
kimco: Yes! Go to the mortuary, hospitals, graveyards, funeral homes, you will See them, smell them, hear them and feel them. It is then when the words "death has a smell or death filled the air" will have meaning to you. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by KnownUnknown: 1:15pm On May 23, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: God did exactly what the writer wanted him to do. It really is that simple. God does whatever the writer wants him to do. The question is, do you believe the writer? What are the laws of time? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 1:19pm On May 23, 2021 |
djsjxjfjdisjdjb: Oh dear lord. You said there was scientific reference. Metaphysics in this case is not a science. Why are you moving the goal post bro? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Kobojunkie: 1:20pm On May 23, 2021 |
KnownUnknown:Well, you are free to interpret it as you chose. According to the writer, God did the work in 6 days and that is that. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 1:24pm On May 23, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: 1. I am disappointed in this answer. The only thing we have to go by is the bible. You have not seen God before...you have not heard him or her before....only the bible gives him or her a persona. You cannot assume anything about Yahweh without referencing the bible 2. "And there was evening and there was morning...." Indicates that Yahweh doesn't work in the evenings.... Probably goes about impregnating virgins that time. What an insult to an omnipotent Being. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 1:25pm On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: You lie....why are you even lying, my lord. |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by kimco(m): 1:27pm On May 23, 2021 |
Image123: What is your proof? |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Judas1X: 1:27pm On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Actually everything I've ever seen in my life can be explained using scientific/natural laws and principles. That said, I'm struggling to see your point here Mysterious things have happened in the past which later turned out to be completely natural events after being unravelled through science. Look up rainfall, thunder and the likes. Your ton of illiteracy will startle your daddy! Unnatural occurences do not constitute evidence for ANYTHING. We just don't have immediate knowledge of said occurrence. It does not translate to evidence of your pùssy-ass god who's too pùssy and lazy to ACTUALLY prove himself directly. Instead he hides behind myths and unexplained events and common-sense repellant bonobos such as yourself to fight for him. Your god is merely a placeholder for ignorance! [s]2) The others are "Favour": Every one knows that Favour is Abnormal, what is normal is to receive the grudgingly given kindness which is even sometimes fought for.You took the idea of favour and somehow twisted it with your sophistry to make it "abnormal"? Please what is "abnormal" about doing things for others or receiving things easily from people? And you tell me your family isn't carrying the entire cuss of your clan in your head? 3) Blessings! Just like Favour, WHICH IS GOOD THINGS ONLY HAPPENING, ALL THE TIME TO THE BLESSED PERSON WHILE ALL OTHERS, EVEN ON THAT SAME ROAD, STRUGGLE ALONG.First of all, dummy, good things happen to everybody, irrespective of your personality. I know atheists who are prosperous, productive and happy, as well as Christians who struggle through basic things in life. So you're talking out of your ass here. Blessings, or rather, luck is like fate. It's a phantom of human perception. Random unlikely shít happens all the time and some people encounter many fortunate coincidences in their lifetimes. These people are what we call "lucky." However, we still can't call this abnormal. Often times we call things "luck" simply because we are ignorant of what caused it to happen People who have regularly good or bad outcomes are people who made decisions or other people who have made similar decisions If Nairaland were available in the 50s I'm sure your daddy would have displayed exact same strain of ignorance and unfiltered stupidity. Nice to see you taking up the legacy digitally All these things are Seen and they are not hidden.And they prove nothing except the depth of your delusions, and the range of your illiteracy. You're a fullblown retaard making useless assertions without comprehension. Does A Carpenter or an Engineer prove himself to his work? No! It is not done!You're committing the fallacy of equivocation, you blazing mor0n. Only an adult-educated nitwit will think to compare a mortal with a supernatural deity It's only a god who doesn't want to interact with his creation that doesn't feel the need to prove his existence to them. Just like the deist god However, the christian god wants a relationship with his creation! This god is omnibenevolent - his goodness and kindness is by definition, limitless and unrestricted This god is omniscient - He knows exactly what to do to make me believe his existence This god is omnipotent - He is capable of making me aware of his existence Yet he relies on upper class retärds such as you to prove his existence. Just say that you are just taking this opportunity to insult GodOf course. It's not like your limp dick doG can do anything about it though . Exactly as the Bible said, for you do not have anything reasonable or True to say.Lol! Your Bible is the biggest repository of lies, half-truths, confabulations and contradictions Did I not say it? Because you do not have anything reasonable and True to say, but to come and prove the Truth of the Bible which had foresaid that scoffers and insulters will come on the Last Days!Kikikikikikiki ki. Look at him. Oponu. Oloriburuku mashan fani. He's crying already Stupid! You Prove The Truth of God in that He Fore-said you would come and here you are!Why are you repeating yourself like a broken record? My comments must have hit a delicate part in your core ignorance to make you babble the same words over and over like an old man suffering from cerebral palsy Stop crying. You're embarrassing your sky daddy You have arrived as He Fore-Said!Still repeating himself You can't even be original or coherent to save your impoverished mother. Stop crying already. Before I pummel you harder than your father had ever been able to fück your libertine mother. And here arrives the Legendary Insults of Losers when they see that they have lost their matter and can never prevail!The only loser is the organic mumu who abandoned his local religions to serve the white man's god. Inferiority complex is a bastard!! You're a disgrace to your own heritage You're a freak of nature, a serial failure and a mockery of your parents hardwork. You're uniquely equipped with the IQ of a sedated chacma baboon. You should write an anonymous letter to the minister of education to grant you free access to restudy. Your comprehension abilities and cognition is at par with a 7 year old with downs syndrome. Fatherless buffoon 4 Likes |
Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Judas1X: 1:27pm On May 23, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Pretending that I didn't rip your arguments apart and shove them up your diseased rectum wont do you any good here. How dare you talk to me about insults when it is your defining M.O? Apparently you can't take what you dish out You better stop being emotional and come at me with facts. You're conversing with someone more educated than all the unbroken line of imposters in your generation. 2 Likes |
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