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Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by RoadStar: 3:19pm On May 05, 2011 |
Beaf: Hasn't this been the problem of Yoruba politicians all along ? It seems to be a culture demanded by the Yorubas that their leaders must depict loyalty to Yorubas by expressing contempt for other tribes. Tinubu for one is not a tribalist, this is a guy that as governor of Lagos state, hired commissioners from other ethnic groups. But in other to appeal 2 yorubas he has 2 show contempt for others. This is the same qualities which denied many brilliant Yoruba leaders of national acceptance including Awo, Bola Ige, Adesanya etc (With OBJ being the only exception) although he is well disliked by his Yoruba Kit and Kin I must add that the Ibo political class have always been Nationalistic in Orientation and Ngige wont be the last. From Zik , Ekwueme, Anyaoku, Nnamani, Okadigbo etc (Ojukwu being the one exeption) but some may argue that he was a product of circumstance at the time. Its seems that to gain the trust of the Ibos u have to show accomodation for others. It might just be a cultural thing . Not tryna say that Yorubas are any less hospitable than Ibos or any tribe 4 that matter. Just Food for thought. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 4:37pm On May 05, 2011 |
RoadStar: I am fast discovering that it is impossible to convince the ACN lovers of what is a very insulting folly. But its all good, they will live with the consequences. ACN is a regional party that has closed the gates of ever going national through being insular and supremacist, the steerers of the ship are blind to the fact and so are their followers. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by jason123: 4:43pm On May 05, 2011 |
Beaf:On what line of thought did you derive your conclusion from? Beaf: HOW |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Lagosboy: 4:59pm On May 05, 2011 |
In as much as i have some reservations for ACN we should never let out sentiments make us from run away from facts. ACN was formed in 2006 by politicans nationwide , it only happened by fortune that Atiku and Tinubu were the biggest politician of clout in ACN when it started. When i talk of clout i mean financial liquidity , Rimi , Iyorcha Ayu , Boni Haruna , Ibrahim Babtel, Ghaali Naaba and a host of other PDP elements. However, the elections were rigged and only Lagos was won by ACN. Most of the northern politicans left ACN because they wanted to eat . Tinubu stood with ACN because without it he will not be politically relevant and funded the cases in court, kudos to him. He is enjoying the success today of which Atiku would have been part of if he was smart enough to realise he was never going to win the PDP ticket. The other ACN guys left ACN with Atiku and today are politcally irrelevant except GEJ rewards them with some kind of appointment. ACN is not a tribal party but has its strongest base in the SW, I am sure ACN won Adamawa in 2007 as well but the election was rigged. The court nullified it and the re run by Iwu was rigged again . Ngige is a man i admire for his courage and i believe he will be the next Governor of Anambra state which means ACN will have another state in the SE. However, for ACN to win any presidential election in Nigeria they need to forge alliances with the Buhari group which has tremendous northern support. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 5:03pm On May 05, 2011 |
koruji: Its like a black man calls a white man a rascal and the white man replies that the black man is a monkey that has left the forest to converse with those on land. . . You know the drill. You really seem stuck on PDP and issues that have absolutely no connection to the negative perceptions others from outside the SW have of ACN and Tinubu. It is also incredible that you can compare Tinubu to 'daylight-thieves and possible murderers that have no qualms contesting and "winning" elections under PDP.' Not only can Tinubu be described as a 'daylight-thief and possible murderer that has no qualms contesting and "winning" elections under ACN,' look at the extraordinary riots, carnage and assassinations due to ACN in Akwa Ibom (most recently, a man who recently congratulated Akpabio was gunned down and those in his camp have gone into hiding). Your scales are definitely biased; I am sure you will be quick to condemn Ibori, that is good and healthy; but you cannot do that while adoring Tinubu who is several times worse. It is always useful to be able to see things through the eyes of the victim, ACN has a lot to do to clean up its sectionalist and paranoid image outside the SW. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Nobody: 5:16pm On May 05, 2011 |
Uneducated fo-ols go around with ill-formed mentality that ACN is a Yoruba party. Even after non-yorubas came out pronouncing themselves as one of ACN's founders. Beats me why Nigerians prefer living in the dark. People are skeptical about ACN because it has most of its supporter in the SW and because one of its PROMINENT leaders is a Yorubaman. Mu he he. And why would the SW not vote out PDP, the rigging, the do-or die politics founded by PDP grandpapa OBJ, esp the way OBJ and and his useless PDP dealt the SW? Any rational and educated (dont even have to be educated to know right from wrong) SW'ner would have voted out PDP. High number of voters on 4/9, Low numbers of voters on 4/16, and high number of voters on 4/26 confirms that as of right now, the SW just want local development. How dare one imbe-cile come on NL calling ACN a Yoruba party because the SW people voted wisely. The SW is giving GEJ a chance to prove his leadership skills (I understand that he hasnt started yet), come 2015, if he doesnt prove it, even the magic numbers of the SS/SE wont save his seat. Because me, a Yoruba woman, cannot fathom why a president with fresh air and agenda of unity is offering Ndi-Igbo a senatorial seat just because of their magic numbers and OBJ/minions ministry seats just because the SW voted them out. We are simply watching. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Dede1(m): 7:29pm On May 05, 2011 |
Ileke-IdI: Thanks to free modalities of Internet that allow ill-educated trolls to engage in an incoherent rant such as above post. Whether a non-Yoruba cries ACN is not Yoruba party or non-Yoruba shouts ACN is Yoruba party, it makes no difference to the actual scheme of things on the ground. The undisputable fact remains that ACN is a regional party in Nigeria as evidenced within Yoruba enclave. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by enyojo(f): 7:33pm On May 05, 2011 |
IT IS GOOD TO SEE THAT BEAF HAS ABANDONED HIS 'VOTE FOR THE PERSON NOT THE PARTY' GARB AND HAS FULLY BECOME A STAUNCH PDP DEFENDER. EEEDIOTSS |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by seanet02: 7:36pm On May 05, 2011 |
Dede1:Yes a regional party that has made its mark in good and governance and after a long siege on the east has Finally set Foot on the Heart of Alaigbo Go hug a transformer |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Gbawe: 7:39pm On May 05, 2011 |
enyojo: Hypocrisy and ideological vacuousness , like a Chameleon, takes the 'colour' of the latest environment. did you not know? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Dede1(m): 9:29pm On May 05, 2011 |
seanet02: I am afraid if you have not hugged a transformer based on the manner you represented innuendos. AC, Action Congress, was formed in 2006 and won gubernatorial seat in Lagos State in 2007 when none of the sons of the soil made the presidential ticket of PDP. AD, Alliance for Democracy, gave rise to AC and we know how it came about without any link to good governance. Are you not delusional to speak about ACN setting foot in Alaigbo? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 10:25pm On May 05, 2011 |
enyojo: Madam, simply face the topic and stop trying to dodge. I like most, fail to see what PDP has to do with this topic. But the paranoid always see far out angles. Lol! In case you missed the obvious, the threads title is "Acn Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige." Dodging the question does not stop non-ACN people from outside the SW seeing the party as ethnically bigoted at best and fascist at worst. Why don't you try to convince us, instead of going off on a tangent? Fashola would make a much better leader than Tinubu who is a known criminal and lacks the level of civility to interface with other ethic groups. His greatest efforts outside the SW are in the SS where his uncouth methods are interpreted (99% likely correctly) to be a very desperate, loveless, exploitative, anything goes dash for major oil producing states. It will be resisted. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Nobody: 10:25pm On May 05, 2011 |
seanet02: LOL [flash=400,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash] |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:03pm On May 05, 2011 |
Beaf: beaf, i have to be honest with u you are an ideiiot and an very stu.pid for your recent silly act of "a detribalised person" u go around saying ACN is a yoruba party and insulting people that say it is not u even insulted tinubu after your oga jonathan used a preseidential jet to beg him what type of ideiot are you, i ask? thank God people lika jason and physics are here to shut ur f mouth off about SS you are here insulting Gbawe, ekt_bear, enjoyjo etc calling them a tribalist when you are the biggest bigot on NL only next to ezeuche and zstranger mo.ron like you should go an hang in the thick tar of crude oil that your region depends souly on I am just being honest here brother |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 11:07pm On May 05, 2011 |
^ Bros, you still eating grass? Its really affecting your mind badly sha! |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:10pm On May 05, 2011 |
Beaf: bros i am just being honest with you here hate or like it whether i eat grass or not is not the issue here the issue is that u are an ideeiot no offence just the truth if u do not believe me ask your biological father if u have 1 |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Nobody: 11:13pm On May 05, 2011 |
Great article. A nation not in the sense of secession, but more towards SW unity and progress. This is why Nigeria should either go back to regional governance or federalism. Yoruba people have shown that they are capable of throwing out rotten politicians. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 11:19pm On May 05, 2011 |
alj_harem: Thank you. Tinubu has made ACN into a sectional party, he is also a worse criminal than Ibori that will never be accepted in the SS where he is concentrating his best efforts. Kill yourself if you do not have a sensible counter argument and because you cannot change the perception of the people. lol! How are the other youthful but wasting almajiri's doing sir? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:30pm On May 05, 2011 |
Beaf: i dislike tinubu as well and i think he should be jailed or presecuted but you go around calling ekt_bear, Gbawe and others tribalist when ezeuche, chyz and co are even doing worse you say you are not bigoted and i held you for your words to be neutral but i have noticed a certain pattern in which you are going and it is not good you attack the yoruba tribalist but free the igbos,.,.,.,.,., why ? is it because yorubas voted for GEJ and now he is there you think the power lies in the SS and SE hands ? if so then GEJ is not nigerian president but SS and SE president then if we go along that logical thinking then GEJ will have a hard time ruling this country, even if he deploys the military, 4 yrs will soon be over, then what next (jason). i hate the way tiunbu4life, gbawe and others shout Tinubu about but still u can not deny the fact that ACN governors are doing well if just fashola u said u are currenting staying in lagos and probably enjoying good road, now did that come for PDP or GEJ certainly not the way things are going i strongly believe this almajiris you shout about has more brains than you don't you think ? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 12:59am On May 06, 2011 |
^ Dude, you make some really strange comments. It is not my duty on NL to go around balancing the policicing of ethnic bigots. In any event, you are a relative newcomer to NL, so you have never witnessed some pretty ugly exchanges I had with non-Yoruba's (ask Ezeuche whom you mentioned). I see your trick though and it is weak. You tried abusing my father to derail the topic, it didn't work (same way you tried calling me names), now you are finally attempting to discuss the topic as you should have done in the beginning (albeit with the strange suggestion that I attack Igbo's). You really need recharging, abeg, put your battery in the sun jare! Or just eat more grass. As I have maintained, Tinubu's politics is ugly, bigoted and fascist. That is what you should put your mind to. Dunce. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 1:04am On May 06, 2011 |
Beaf: i don't care if u go around or not u comment on the yoruba threads but once igbo u keep u foul mouth shut like a snail it is none of my business anyway, i just wanted to point to you how bigoted you are aswell anyway we agree on something, WE BOTH DO NOT LIKE TINUBU but calling him a bigot when GEJ is there is a bit far fetch |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 1:14am On May 06, 2011 |
alj_harem: The bolded is another thing we agree on. Now take your infantile crap to the kids section of NL. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Desola(f): 1:17am On May 06, 2011 |
Kai! Rankadede Alh Harem. Boi! You are on fire tonight and i'm "jollofucating" the bulala you are whipping that cow - oh, sorry, i mean Beaf. You can be kolo sometimes o but there is not hiding the fact that you are unbiased. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 1:21am On May 06, 2011 |
Beaf: you are making no sense i pointed out your error in your comments just like you see fit to point out the error in tinubu accept correction and grow up |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Beaf: 1:36am On May 06, 2011 |
alj_harem: Go and play with your goats. If you roll on the ground crying or fall off your carmel, it still wouldn't advance any argument that counters the fact that Tinubu's politics is ugly, bigoted and fascist. Do you think it will? lol |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by jason123: 2:14am On May 06, 2011 |
Beaf: @BOLDED HOW?? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by EzeUche2(m): 2:42am On May 06, 2011 |
As I said before, if Ngige needs to say this, then the perception around Nigeria is that ACN is a Yoruba party. Ngige is just a token Igbo in a Yoruba party. |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by koruji(m): 2:42am On May 06, 2011 |
This is what is called a strawman argument if I ever saw one. You see no need to change the word "rascal", but you went ahead to change the color of the skin and reduce the number of people called by that name to one. You then changed the specific reply that called "one black man" a "drunken fisherman" to being called "a monkey" that left the "forest" by a "white man". This is no analogy at all. You are simply twisting what was said to your interpretation. Sure, it is your prerogative to interpret words how you "feel", but note that someone started it and the other parties has his own interpretation of what was said to them. [size=14pt]If you felt so bad about the reply, then being reflective would show you that the other party probably felt just as bad or even worse when you came to their backyard to cast aspersions on their dignity[/size]. I told you in my previous write-up that it was the clever-by-half reply to the complaint over the initial remark that probably angered Tinubu most - "you can call yourself rascals if you want" was GEJ's reply. Unfortunately, that is exactly what you are doing to yourself here. I'll leave you to continue fuming about this silly spat, if it delights you, but President GEJ should be advised that the Nigerian people (including the SW who gave him most of their votes) [size=14pt] need him, no demand him, to get on with the job for which he was hired[/size]. He and all those in government are our employees - that is why they get to stay in privileged quarters and ride in sweat-paid planes. [size=14pt]They just need to do their jobs - and tuck away their personal egos and sensitivities.[/size] If ACN or SW begs him for appointment let him deny it. Bottomline is whichever way he wants to do it, he cannot afford to carry on like Yar'adua and OBJ. If anybody is so hurt about the "drunken fisherman" reply let them come back with something bigger than rascal, and get what they get back in return too. If I say you are a "drunken fisherman"; you say "I am a drunken hunter" or whatever suits you. Besides, you should know better than to take these things to heart - every couple of replies you are calling northerners "abokis", "grass eaters", and telling them they will be "cut loose in the desert". Beaf: Why would I and Nigerians not be stuck on PDP. ACN was PDP's doing - the daylight robbery of voter's mandate by OBJ. Whatever negative perceptions of ACN there are the Nigerian people will go back to the polls in another 4 years. So far, [size=14pt]between PDP and ACN PDP was the one scared stiff of what might happen if voters were really allowed to express their wishes[/size] - hence the mago mago. I am on the side of Nigeria and the SW at the same time. Now that the thieves of wealth, body and votes have been sent packing from the SW it is time to liberate the rest of the nation. Whether ACN proves worthy of that task will be revealed in due course, but there are alternatives. The bolded-below makes me wonder if someone else is pretending to be the Beaf that we use to know on NL - "extraordinary riots, carnage and assassinations due to ACN in Akwa Ibom" Who kidnapped the real Beaf? I worried about the all out, caution-to-the-wind, attack you mounted on Buhari close to the elections, and have suggested that President GEJ's touted "humility" may really be a high act. Both are begining to prove true if one is to go by the way you are carrying on now. What is with you? Yesterday, it was a calling vehemently for Buhari's arrest. Today, it is Tinubu this and that. Do you think GEJ needs more enemies? Is he Jesus to whom "every knee" must bow, just because he is now in Aso Rock? Questions that are worth pondering! Beaf: You are crying wolf for nothing. What kind of candidate goes to campaign in a region and insults them? I didn't hear GEJ say anything back when he went up north to campaign promising all kinds of goodies only to be [size=14pt]severely insulted [/size] by being told to write it up and sign it so they can be sure he will keep his promise. Same thing when his dignity was being dragged around in the presidency under Turai. But let him call SWers "rascals" and be specifically called a "drunken fisherman" in return - his supporters go crazy. [size=14pt]It is not his fault, it is OBJ's. That. . .[/size] Beaf: Beaf: |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by koruji(m): 2:49am On May 06, 2011 |
How can the original bigot join in a discussion about bigots. Wonders shall never end I have said it before, GEJ knew exactly what formula to use on the SE - the IBB formula plus a dose of "let's go teach this Yoruba people a lesson" will do the trick any day. The fact that BEAF is shouting himself hoarse on NL over that silly spat show that they are still searching for the formula for the SW. It is not going to work - simple as ABC. We are determined not to tolerate the likes of OBJ ever again in the SW. If GEJ merely pretended his way to Aso Rock only to put on his wolf-OBJ-clothing then we 'll see how it works out at the end of the day. EzeUche_: |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by jason123: 2:50am On May 06, 2011 |
EzeUche_: Tribalism will surely blind you from seeing anything good in Ngige's comment. What about tony one week? What about Benue state?? |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by jason123: 2:51am On May 06, 2011 |
koruji: You beat me to it!!! |
Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by EzeUche2(m): 2:53am On May 06, 2011 |
jason123: How is it tribalism, by stating the obvious. ACN is a Yoruba party. Why is it that ACN has swept the SW, but not any other region? ACN will remain a regional party. |
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