MaxInDHouse:
I think you're the one having problems now o!
I said "you have WON the arguments" just as you always wanted but i'll ever remain one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES until you PRESENT a better performing group than JWs!

You have to start from denouncing the FAULTY WATCHTOWER WITNESSES before we start discussing about your TOTAL SOUL'S REFORMATION

Good!

So PRESENT the group of people whose souls has been REFORMED. That's exactly what i've been asking you!

PARACLETOS:

You have to start from denouncing the FAULTY WATCHTOWER WITNESSES before we start discussing about your TOTAL SOUL'S REFORMATION

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So PRESENT the group of people whose souls has been REFORMED. That's exactly what i've been asking you!

Denounce WATCHTOWER first then we will talk.

Bishopkingsley:


This laws are equally in the new testaments
So it shows you believe jesus or don't you

He is just an idol...

The laws are also in the koran...do you believe Muhammad?

22jumpstreet:


He is just an idol...

The laws are also in the koran...do you believe Muhammad?

Are you a Muslim

22jumpstreet:

He is just an idol...
The laws are also in the koran...do you believe Muhammad?

Please i'm interested in the underlined!
Below is the Oxford Dictionary description of the word "Idol" can you please expatiate on this?

Noun
idol (plural idols)

A graven image or representation of anything that is revered, or believed to convey spiritual power. ▼ show
A cultural icon, or especially popular person.
(Asia, originally, Japan) Popular entertainer; usually young, captivating, attractive; and often female, with an image of being close to fans. ▼ show
(obsolete) An eidolon or phantom; something misleading or elusive.

Bishopkingsley:

Are you a Muslim

I remember you were arguing about your Jesus not been Melchizedek.
Well this is another Trinitarian of course he also believe that Jesus is his God yet to him the Jesus is Melchizedek!

bingbagbo:

Hebrews 7:3
without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.
Melchizedek has no Father nor mother. He has no beginning and no end. And is like the Son Of God (Christ).
So, Christ has no beginning and no end. How then do cultists say Christ has a begining of days?
Christ is God, He is first and last

MaxInDHouse:


I remember you were arguing about your Jesus not been Melchizedek.
Well this is another Trinitarian of course he also believe that Jesus is his God yet to him the Jesus is Melchizedek!

One guy here explained how Jesus was of the order of Melchizedek.

In that he is our high priest you need to see how he explained it

And I researched and found out his reference was accurate

Bishopkingsley:


One guy here explained how Jesus was of the order of Melchizedek.

In that he is our high priest you need to see how he explained it

And I researched and found out his reference was accurate

You enjoy DECEIVING yourself.

Hebrews 7:1&3
New Living Translation
Melchizedek Is Greater Than Abraham
7 This Melchizedek was king of the city of Salem and also a priest of God Most High. When Abraham was returning home after winning a great battle against the kings, Melchizedek met him and blessed him. 2 Then Abraham took a tenth of all he had captured in battle and gave it to Melchizedek. The name Melchizedek means “king of justice,” and king of Salem means “king of peace.” 3 There is no record of his father or mother or any of his ancestors—no beginning or end to his life. He remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God.

"He remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God"
Christ is a high Priest forever,that's the only similarity between him and Melchizedek

Questions for Bishop

Did Jesus Christ have his Father in heaven and earth?
Is there a biblical record of the Father of Jesus?
Is there biblical record of Jesus ancestry?

Questions 1-3, there is no similarity between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek.

The last sentence of Hebrews 7:3 is simple enough to understand.- High Priest forever is the only connection between them.

Well that means we can agree on that because Jesus is our Melchizedek!

Bishopkingsley:

One guy here explained how Jesus was of the order of Melchizedek.
In that he is our high priest you need to see how he explained it
And I researched and found out his reference was accurate

PARACLETOS:


Which of the teachings of Christ and His Apostles are OBSOLETE?

If your founder Rutherford and Russell had consistently preached and published ONLY THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST, would you now retract and make those teachings OBSOLETE?

What does the Bible say about a building built on WRONG OR FAULTY FOUNDATION?

THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES AND THE ORGANIZATION WAS BUILT ON A FALSE, LIES, ERROR, PERVASIVE, AND OBSOLETE FOUNDATION

The teaching that Gentiles must be circumcised is obsolete.
Is Acts chapter 15verses 2 to 30 in your Bible?
The teaching that only Jews will be saved is obsolete, Jesus initially sent his disciples to seek out the lost sheep of Israel.
Matthew 10:5-6.

Later, after his ascension, @ Acts 1:8, Jesus Christ changed his teaching. "Go ahead and preach in all Judea and Samaria , and to the most distant part of the earth"
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

PARACLETOS:
Denounce WATCHTOWER first then we will talk.

What is there to denounce other than the proven fact that your claims have no scriptural backing.

PARACLETOS:


1. On Luke. 19:11,
were the Apostles the ones preaching about the kingdom in that passage?


2. On Act. 15:2-30.
Verse 1 state "And certain men (not Apostles) which came down from judea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Question... Show me where the Apostles or Christ taught that CIRCUMCISION was a criteria for salvation?

Verse. 2, Paul and Banabas contended with them (argued with them otherwise). But they did not accept their opposition to the teachings of circumcision as a panacea for salvation. They had to send delegation to Jerusalem.

Verse 5 made us to know that those "certain men" who were teaching circumcision, were PHARISEES and not APOSTLES.

Verdict: THE APOSTLES NEVER TAUGHT CIRCUMCISION AND SO NEVER RETRACTD IT.
INSTEAD IT WAS THE PHARISEES WHO TAUGHT IT AND AFTER THE MEETING AT JERUSALEM, THEIR TEACHINGS WERE CONDEMNED

On 1 Corinthians 1:10-14,
Your opinion here is not sensible at all.
Are you saying that the Apostles had taught Disunity amongst brethren?

Question: Show me where the Apostles taught DISUNITY IN THE CHURCH?

On 1 Corinthians 15:12,
About your claim, PLEASE POINT OUT THE NAME OF THE APOSTLE WHO TAUGHT THE CHURCH THAT
Just like in Acts 15, where you lied about the APOSTLES on a subject matter that was clearly Taught by the PHARISEES, so have you done here.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES ARE VERY GOOD AT QUOTING SCRIPTURES OUT OF CONTEXT TO DECEIVE THE UNLEARNED.

How pathetic that you have ignored responding to my questions here...

Janosky:


The teaching that Gentiles must be circumcised is obsolete.
Is Acts chapter 15verses 2 to 30 in your Bible?
The teaching that only Jews will be saved is obsolete, Jesus initially sent his disciples to seek out the lost sheep of Israel.
Matthew 10:5-6.

Later, after his ascension, @ Acts 1:8, Jesus Christ changed his teaching. "Go ahead and preach in all Judea and Samaria , and to the most distant part of the earth"
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Well that means we can agree on that because Jesus is our Melchizedek!

Yes figuratively

Janosky:


You enjoy DECEIVING yourself.

Hebrews 7:1&3
New Living Translation
Melchizedek Is Greater Than Abraham
7 This Melchizedek was king of the city of Salem and also a priest of God Most High. When Abraham was returning home after winning a great battle against the kings, Melchizedek met him and blessed him. 2 Then Abraham took a tenth of all he had captured in battle and gave it to Melchizedek. The name Melchizedek means “king of justice,” and king of Salem means “king of peace.” 3 There is no record of his father or mother or any of his ancestors—no beginning or end to his life. He remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God.

"He remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God"
Christ is a high Priest forever,that's the only similarity between him and Melchizedek

Questions for Bishop

Did Jesus Christ have his Father in heaven and earth?
Is there a biblical record of the Father of Jesus?
Is there biblical record of Jesus ancestry?

Questions 1-3, there is no similarity between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek.

The last sentence of Hebrews 7:3 is simple enough to understand.- High Priest forever is the only connection between them.

You say.

Questions 1-3, there is no similarity between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek

Is that a question or answer

[s]

Janosky:


[s]The teaching that Gentiles must be circumcised is obsolete.
Is Acts chapter 15verses 2 to 30 in your Bible?
The teaching that only Jews will be saved is obsolete, Jesus initially sent his disciples to seek out the lost sheep of Israel.
Matthew 10:5-6.

Later, after his ascension, @ Acts 1:8, Jesus Christ changed his teaching. "Go ahead and preach in all Judea and Samaria , and to the most distant part of the earth"
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

[/s]

PARACLETOS:


I will not be diverted... I have searched and searched and searched but I have not seen "FIRST CREATED OF EVERY CREATURE.
Please help me out... That's what I want from anywhere in the Bible, Genesis to Revelation.

PARACLETOS, you have seen it in your Bible but you refused to see it & rejected it.

Psalms 90:1-2 & Colossians 1:15, do you comprehend?

(Psalms 90:1–2

A prayer of Moses, the man of God.

1Lord, through all the generations

you have been our home!

2Before the mountains were born,

before you gave birth to the earth and the world,

from beginning to end, you are God"

The Most High God, Jehovah born the mountains, gave birth to the earth and the FIRST CREATED OF EVERY CREATURE"
BORN=CREATE.
Bros, Na your Bible talk am.

Bros,PARACLETOS, do you desire the biblical truth?
Whatever you want,suit yourself.
It's not my business to free you from your DELUSION.
Only you can,or Jehovah God intervenes.

Bishopkingsley:


You say.

Questions 1-3, there is no similarity between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek

Is that a question or answer

Bros, go and read Hebrews 7:3 & answer those questions.

Janosky:


PARACLETOS, you have seen it in your Bible but you refused to see it & rejected it.

Psalms 90:1-2 & Colossians 1:15, do you comprehend?

(Psalms 90:1–2

A prayer of Moses, the man of God.

1Lord, through all the generations

you have been our home!

2Before the mountains were born,

before you gave birth to the earth and the world,

from beginning to end, you are God"

The Most High God, Jehovah born the mountains, gave birth to the earth and the FIRST CREATED OF EVERY CREATURE"
BORN=CREATE.
Bros, Na your Bible talk am.

Bros,PARACLETOS, do you desire the biblical truth?
Whatever you want,suit yourself.
It's not my business to free you from your DELUSION.
Only you can,or Jehovah God intervenes.

Please quote out the portion from your New World Translation that indicates JESUS CREATED No stories!

Janosky:


PARACLETOS, you have seen it in your Bible but you refused to see it & rejected it.

Psalms 90:1-2 & Colossians 1:15, do you comprehend?

(Psalms 90:1–2

A prayer of Moses, the man of God.

1Lord, through all the generations

you have been our home!

2Before the mountains were born,

before you gave birth to the earth and the world,

from beginning to end, you are God"

The Most High God, Jehovah born the mountains, gave birth to the earth and the FIRST CREATED OF EVERY CREATURE"
BORN=CREATE.
Bros, Na your Bible talk am.

Bros,PARACLETOS, do you desire the biblical truth?
Whatever you want,suit yourself.
It's not my business to free you from your DELUSION.
Only you can,or Jehovah God intervenes.

Colossians 1:15-16
New International Version

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him

I have not seen where JESUS WAS CREATED

Janosky:

Bros, go and read Hebrews 7:3 & answer those questions.

Your Bible say your god is the throne of Michael
So angel Michael is sitting on your god right

PARACLETOS:
Which of the teachings of Christ and His Apostles are OBSOLETE?

Acts 15:5-6,19-20
But then some of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and insisted, “The Gentile converts must be circumcised and required to follow the law of Moses.6 So the apostles and elders met together to resolve this issue.”


19 “And so my judgment is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood".

Bros, if you like DECEIVE yourself.
Acts 15:5-6,19-20 is part & parcel of the Bible in your house but not in your heart.

Bishopkingsley:


Your Bible say your god is the throne of Jesus
So angel Michael is sitting on your god right

You lack comprehension skills.
Did you see angel Michael written in your Bible copy of Hebrews 7:3?
Why change the topic of Hebrews 7:3 to a different issue not mentioned in verse 3?
Na wa for you oooo

Janosky:

You lack comprehension skills.
Did you see angel Michael written in your Bible copy of Hebrews 7:3?
Why change the topic of Hebrews 7:3 to a different issue not mentioned in verse 3?
Na wa for you oooo

I want you to identify your Micheal that why I moved to your Bible teaching

PARACLETOS:



Colossians 1:15-16
New International Version

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him

I have not seen where JESUS WAS CREATED

PARACLETOS, did you see "BORN" @ Psalms 90:2 & Colossians 1:15?

What is the meaning of BORN in Psalms 90:2 and Colossians 1:15?

Double wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH

Bishopkingsley:


I want you to identify your Micheal that why I moved to your Bible teaching

Answer the 3 questions related to Hebrew 7:3.

Bishop wan save face

PARACLETOS:



Colossians 1:15-16
New International Version

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him

I have not seen where JESUS WAS CREATED

Bros, did you see BORN @ Colossians 1:15 & Psalms 90:2?
Simple question

Bros, what is BORN @ Colossians 1:15 & Psalms 90:2?

Bros, Answer both questions joor, no stories.

Janosky:

Acts 15:5-6,19-20
But then some of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and insisted, “The Gentile converts must be circumcised and required to follow the law of Moses.6 So the apostles and elders met together to resolve this issue.”


19 “And so my judgment is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood".

Bros, if you like DECEIVE yourself.
Acts 15:5-6,19-20 is part & parcel of the Bible in your house but not in your heart.

You are repeating yourself. I responded to this issues and asked you questions but you ignored.

Janosky:

Bros, did you see BORN @ Colossians 1:15 & Psalms 90:2?
Simple question

Bros, what is BORN @ Colossians 1:15 & Psalms 90:2?

Bros, Answer both questions joor, no stories.

We are talking about JESUS CREATED give me the portion.

Janosky:


PARACLETOS, did you see "BORN" @ Psalms 90:2 & Colossians 1:15?

What is the meaning of BORN in Psalms 90:2 and Colossians 1:15?

Double wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH

What I want is where JESUS WAS CREATED

PARACLETOS:




1. On Luke. 19:11,
were the Apostles the ones preaching about the kingdom in that passage?


2. On Act. 15:2-30.
Verse 1 state "And certain men (not Apostles) which came down from judea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Question... Show me where the Apostles or Christ taught that CIRCUMCISION was a criteria for salvation?

Verse. 2, Paul and Banabas contended with them (argued with them otherwise). But they did not accept their opposition to the teachings of circumcision as a panacea for salvation. They had to send delegation to Jerusalem.

Verse 5 made us to know that those "certain men" who were teaching circumcision, were PHARISEES and not APOSTLES.

Verdict: THE APOSTLES NEVER TAUGHT CIRCUMCISION AND SO NEVER RETRACTD IT.
INSTEAD IT WAS THE PHARISEES WHO TAUGHT IT AND AFTER THE MEETING AT JERUSALEM, THEIR TEACHINGS WERE CONDEMNED grin

On 1 Corinthians 1:10-14,
Your opinion here is not sensible at all.
Are you saying that the Apostles had taught Disunity amongst brethren?

Question: Show me where the Apostles taught DISUNITY IN THE CHURCH?

On 1 Corinthians 15:12,
About your claim, PLEASE POINT OUT THE NAME OF THE APOSTLE WHO TAUGHT THE CHURCH THAT
Just like in Acts 15, where you lied about the APOSTLES on a subject matter that was clearly Taught by the PHARISEES, so have you done here.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES ARE VERY GOOD AT QUOTING SCRIPTURES OUT OF CONTEXT TO DECEIVE THE UNLEARNED

**1
Luke 19:11,25 = Luke 24:21. It was the disciples who thought Jesus will redeem Isreal when the kingdom arrives immediately.
Luke 24:21,Bros go & confirm.
The disciples were with him at Luke 19 verses 1 to 50

Bros, since he converted the disciples, Was Jesus ever alone?

**2
The Council at Jerusalem
Acts 15:1-2,5
While Paul and Barnabas were at Antioch of Syria, some men from Judea arrived and began to teach the believers[a]: “Unless you are circumcised as required by the law of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 Paul and Barnabas disagreed with them, arguing vehemently. Finally, the church decided to send Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem, accompanied by some local believers, to talk to the apostles and elders about this question.
5 But then some of the believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and insisted, “The Gentile converts must be circumcised and required to follow the law of Moses.”
Verse 5, says The men in verse1 were believers who belonged (past tense) to the sect of the Pharisees.. formerly Pharisee.
Matt 5:20 is sacrosanct.

I'm back....
3..
1 Corinthians 1:11 "there are dissensions among you" , Paul wrote.
This was my question....
[b]1 Corinthians 1:10-14, if everyone of them were teaching the same thing & in agreement in everything, would Paul give that counsel on unity?

Read well and understand..... My question is very sensible and relevant.
Your claim is NOT true.


1 Corinthians 15:12
"We preach Christ has been raised from the dead, how is it some of you say there is no resurrection of the dead"?
Bros, your request [b]PLEASE POINT OUT THE NAME OF THE APOSTLE WHO TAUGHT THE CHURCH THAT
Some Believers in the city of Corinth were teaching there is no resurrection of the dead" You want to know their names? Please ask Apostles Paul
[/b]

He asked a question and as i was about to address it he jumped to another.
Of course father Abraham will never allow Lazarus to cool such dishonest thirst! Luke 16:24-31

Janosky:

What is there to denounce other than the proven fact that your claims have no scriptural backing.