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How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:55am On Aug 08, 2017
How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe

The Achillies heel of atheism is the beginning of the universe, which points us to a transcendent cause outside of space, time and matter that brought these things into being in the first place. Below is the link that explains why atheism fails to account for the beginning of our universe.

http://reasonsforjesus.com/atheism-fails-explain-beginning-universe/

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by hopefulLandlord: 2:01am On Aug 08, 2017
How do you get from the God who created the Universe to the one who is worried about the skin on the tip of my Dick?
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by modelmike7(m): 2:06am On Aug 08, 2017
Only a fool believes that there is no GOD.....
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 2:09am On Aug 08, 2017
The atheist problem is the reality of God

Many of them will not debate creation, if it was written to be done by aliens
So long as you dont mention God, they are ok burying their heads in the sand, like ostriches.....


Nice one, Op

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 2:18am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:
The atheist problem is the reality of God

Many of them will not debate creation, if it was written to be done by aliens
So long as you dont mention God, they are ok burying their heads in the sand, like ostriches.....


Nice one, Op

You mean the God you worship that was invented by the ancient Jews? Your God has nothing to do with reality but everything to do with imaginations.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 2:20am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You mean the God you worship that was invented by the ancient Jews? Your God has nothing to do with reality but everything to do with imaginations.

Prove It.
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 2:24am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


Prove It.

You are the proof that your God is imaginary. Which real God that exist in reality will depend on a total bag of failure and incompetence like you to ever make a case for it or speak on its behalf about it's existence? You are the proof and evidence that your God remains imaginary.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 2:28am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You are the proof that your God is imaginary. Which real God that exist in reality will depend on a total bag of failure and incompetence like you to ever make a case for it or speak on its behalf about it's existence? You are the proof and evidence that your God remains imaginary.

"I am the proof"
Hehehe what tomfoolery?
Hehehe just as Facebook is the proof that Zuckerberg is imaginary ba.......

Mxsheww undecided

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 2:34am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


"I am the proof"
Hehehe what tomfoolery?
Hehehe just as Facebook is the proof that Zuckerberg is imaginary ba.......

Mxsheww undecided

See your mumuness. Mark Zuckerberg is a known person with a distinct identity and features. He can be reached. Your God's identity apart from the one you imagine and ascribe to him is what?

Later you'll start quoting from an ancient book that was written by desert dwellers that lived long ago as the word of this imaginary God.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 2:43am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


See your mumuness. Mark Zuckerberg is a known person with a distinct identity and features. He can be reached. Your God's identity apart from the one you imagine and ascribe to him is what?

Later you'll start quoting from an ancient book that was written by desert dwellers that lived long ago as the word of this imaginary God.
If "I am proof" according to you
Bros, with your logic, Zuckerberg is imaginary....
Thats just how simple you are....

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 2:49am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

If "I am proof" according to you
Bros, with your logic, Zuckerberg is imaginary....
Thats just how simple you are....

Sure you are Mr simpleton. I repeat no God that exist in reality will ever sit back and watch you explain it's existence to anybody. Only a God that exist in your head will do that. Start quoting from the book of the ancients that you were indoctrinated with to believe is the book of this imaginary God of yours. Oya begin.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 2:53am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


Sure you are Mr simpleton. I repeat no God that exist in reality will ever sit back and watch you explain it's existence to anybody. Only a God that exist in your head will do that. Start quoting from the book of the ancients that you were indoctrinated with to believe is the boil of this imaginary God of your. Oya begin.

You are still butressing my point
Wikipedia and Media will not need to educate and explain to us that Facebook is owned by Zuckerberg if he is not imaginary
So therefore Zuckerberg is imaginary

All by your logic,
Wow, you are amazingly simple

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:01am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


You are still butressing my point
Wikipedia and Media will not need to educate and explain to us that Facebook is owned by Zuckerberg if he is not imaginary
So therefore Zuckerberg is imaginary

All by your logic,
Wow, you are amazingly simple

You keep buttressing my point. Zuckerberg isn't omnipotent. Wikipedia and the media tells us about his ownership of Facebook because they know that he is very limited. Your imaginary God is claimed to be omnipotent and wants people to know that he exist. Not just that he wants people to know about his special place and message for them and wants to be in a personal relationship with them. Yet it is only incompetent and empty people like you that are always telling people about him and using ancient books to make its case for it, for an alleged God that is real, alive, all powerful and wants people to know about its existence and be in a relationship with it. Only an imaginary God will do that.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:08am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You keep buttressing my point
. Zuckerberg isn't omnipotent. Wikipedia and the media tells us about his ownership of Facebook because they know that he is very limited. Your imaginary God is claimed to be omnipotent and wants people to know that he exist. Not just that he wants people to know about his special place and message for them and wants to be in a personal relationship with them. Yet it is only incompetent and empty people like you that are always telling people about him and using ancient books to make its cade for it, for an alleged God that is real, alive, all powerful and wants people to know about its existence and be in a relationship with it. Only an imaginary God will do that.

@ bolded
Sometimes I wonder if you cant talk without copying my sentences?
Honestly. It really tells us who is empty

Anyway, There are several people
As a matter of fact, billions of people who knew God without me telling them
So you are wrong again, simple one
God doesnt depend on me for people to know Him
If I leave the earth, people will still Know God....

Try to imbibe some truthful cognizance.
Open your faculty to knowledge

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:23am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


@ bolded
Sometimes I wonder if you cant talk without copying my sentences?
Honestly. It really tells us who is empty

Anyway, There are several people
As a matter of fact, billions of people who knew God without me telling them
So you are wrong again, simple one
God doesnt depend on me for people to know Him
If I leave the earth, people will still Know God....

Try to imbibe some truthful cognizance.
Open your faculty to knowledge

So you invented the word buttress? grin.
You are telling the athiest here and other people that believe in other Gods about your God.

There are billions of people that believe in different ideas of God. Even in your religion there are different conception of God based on the different ideas and imaginationsbelievers hold.

God is an idea as such there are different ideas of God each relying on humans to promote and perpetuate it.

All God depend on humans to promote them and expose them to others. You must believe in the God of your environment that is why Nigerians do not believe in God Brahma and why most Indians do not believe in God Yahweh.

Am just narrowing everything to nairaland because it's the platform we use to talk about God. Only an imaginary God will even allow you to make its case or tell people about its existence anywhere.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:28am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


So you invented the word empty? grin.
You are telling the athiest here and other people that believe in other Gods about your God.

There are billions of people that believe in different ideas of God. Even in your religion there are different conception of God based on the different ideas and imaginationsbelievers hold.

God is an idea as such there are different ideas of God each relying on humans to promote and perpetuate it.

All God depend on humans to promote them and expose them to others. You must believe in the God of your environment that is why Nigerians do not believe in God Brahma and why most Indians do not believe in God Yahweh.

Am just narrowing everything to nairaland because it's the platform we use to talk about God. Only an imaginary God will even allow you to make its case or tell people about its existence anywhere.
Back to square one,
Just as An imaginary Zuckerberg allows a less powerful wikipedia to help educate us that he is the owner of Facebook
And according, to your logic, he is therefore imaginary.

Secondly, because some people in America also have a different idea of who Zuckerberg is than from yours,
He is also imaginary....
As a matter of fact, some think he is atheist, while some think he is not
He is therefore imaginary

Wow, your logic is outstandingly simple grin

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 3:38am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

Back to square one,
Just as An imaginary Zuckerberg allows a less powerful wikipedia to help educate us that he is the owner of Facebook
And according, to your logic, he is therefore imaginary.

Secondly, because some people in America also have a different idea of who Zuckerberg is than from yours,
He is also imaginary....
As a matter of fact, some think he is atheist, while some think he is not
He is therefore imaginary

Wow, your logic is outstandingly simple grin

Zuckerberg is NOT omnipotent. He is very limited in his abilities. Is your imaginary God limited in his abilities as advertised? Only an imaginary omnipotent being will allow incompetent people with limited abilities to tell people about its existence. People we are told he loves to be in a relationship with. Did any body woo your wife for you?

Zuckerberg has stated that he isn't an atheist. Anybody that needs clarification can reach him and ask him. How do we know which the true God is? Any objective means of finding out? How do we know that Allah is real and Yahweh is false or how do we know that Yahweh is real and Brahma false? These Gods all have over a billion followers. How do we objectively determine which is real and which is false? Zuckerberg can be reached. How do we objectively reach God without indoctrination?

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 3:52am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


Zuckerberg is NOT omnipotent. He is very limited in his abilities. Is your imaginary God limited in hos abilities as advertised? Only an imaginary omnipotent being will allow incompetent people with limited abilities to tell people about its existence. People we are told he loves to be on a relationship with. Did any body woo your wife for you?

Zuckerberg has stated that he isn't an atheist. Anybody that needs clarification can reach him and ask him. How do we know which the true God is? Any objective means of finding out? How do we know that Allah is real and Yahweh is false or how do we know that Yahweh is real and Brahma false? The Gods all have over a billion followers. How do we objectively determine which is real and which is false? Zuckerberg can be reached. How do we objectively reach God without indoctrination?
Sorry, Zuckerberg is not "limited"
Compared to others, he has 2 billion plus users....
Thats almost a third of the planet

Get your facts right.

Secondly, there are Nairaland atheists who still believe that Zuckerberg is an atheist deep down. That he is pretending
But Since you believe he is not atheist,
Does that make him imaginary?
According to you, different opinions means something doesn't exist.
That doesn't speak well of your cognitive content

Thirdly,
You saying "anyone can reach out to Zuckerberg" is indirectly advising yourself
So also, you can reach out to God to clear your doubts on who God is
Nobody is stopping you.....

Wow,
I can see this Zuckerberg logic really fits you.....
Well

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by NPComplete: 7:03am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

Sorry, Zuckerberg is not "limited"
Compared to others, he has 2 billion plus users....
Thats almost a third of the planet

Get your facts right.

My God. What sort of fuckery is this? Felixomor and his congenital incomprehension disorder. The limitations dalaman speaks to is his lack of omnipotence as opposed to an unlimited deity for fuckssakes. Everyone that reads that will understand what he means except u. Even though he repeated it thrice now.

Dalaman u dey try o. I give u props for even maintaining this conversation.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 8:14am On Aug 08, 2017
NPComplete:


My God. What sort of fuckery is this? Felixomor and his congenital incomprehension disorder. The limitations dalaman speaks to is his lack of omnipotence as opposed to an unlimited deity for fuckssakes. Everyone that reads that will understand what he means except u. Even though he repeated it thrice now.

Dalaman u dey try o. I give u props for even maintaining this conversation.

Keep quiet Mugun
Read that conversation up
So you agree that God is imaginary because humans talk about him?
What tomfoolery

He spoke of 'limited" because he implied Zuckerberg needed to depend on other media to educate us on who the owner of Facebook is.
Because he had Earlier said, God is imaginary because humans talk about God

Likewise, So I also asked Is Zuckerberg imaginary because relatively lower media outlets talk about Zuckerberg, according to his logic.
because He feels God is imaginary because he feels humans who are lower talk about God.

Its too Early for you to start acting dense.
Read and comprehend
Sorry.
Good Morning undecided

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 8:52am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

Sorry, Zuckerberg is not "limited"
Compared to others, he has 2 billion plus users....
Thats almost a third of the planet

Get your facts right.

Secondly, there are Nairaland atheists who still believe that Zuckerberg is an atheist deep down. That he is pretending
But Since you believe he is not atheist,
Does that make him imaginary?
According to you, different opinions means something doesn't exist.
That doesn't speak well of your cognitive content

Thirdly,
You saying "anyone can reach out to Zuckerberg" is indirectly advising yourself
So also, you can reach out to God to clear your doubts on who God is
Nobody is stopping you.....

Wow,
I can see this Zuckerberg logic really fits you.....
Well

You made only one interesting point and I'll take it from there. You said I can reach out to God. So tell me which God can I reach out to and how? How will I know that it's God and not some other phenomenon?

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by NPComplete: 8:54am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

Keep quiet Mugun
Read that conversation up
So you agree that God is imaginary because humans talk about him?
What tomfoolery

**Sigh** Here we go again. See, unlike u, I don't have to agree with someone to comprehend his argument. I do not agree that God is imaginary. But I get his position clearly. He doesn't believe in an omnipotent God that would rely on people with less than intelligent thinking like yourself to speak for Him; this I strongly agree with.


He spoke of 'limited" because he implied Zuckerberg needed to depend on other media to educate us on who the owner of Facebook is.
Because he had Earlier said, God is imaginary because humans talk about God

Another reason I always say your comprehension ability leaves much to be desired. He actually said that because Zuckerberg is limited, being human and all, the need for other media as a means of educating us about him can be excused. Basic comprehension is a problem for u. There is no way u are a doctor.

Likewise, So I also asked Is Zuckerberg imaginary because relatively lower media outlets talk about Zuckerberg, according to his logic.
because He feels God is imaginary because he feels humans who are lower talk about God.

No doesn't feel so. He argues that ur god, the one u believe in, has to be imaginary because considering he has all the unlimited power u ascribe to him, how come he relies on u of all people, one of the most stupid people I know, to speak for him when he could use that power to convince everyone himself. He even gave an example of how Zuckerberg can clarify misconceptions about himself when the need arises.

Its too Early for you to start acting dense.
Read and comprehend
Sorry.
Good Morning undecided

After explaining how to read and comprehend to u, tell me how u came by ur own understanding of Dalaman's argument. Jeez no one can be this stupid. No one.

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by talebearer123: 8:55am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


"I am the proof"
Hehehe what tomfoolery?
Hehehe just as Facebook is the proof that Zuckerberg is imaginary ba.......

Mxsheww undecided

Thumbs up bro
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 8:58am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


Keep quiet Mugun
Read that conversation up
So you agree that God is imaginary because humans talk about him?
What tomfoolery

He spoke of 'limited" because he implied Zuckerberg needed to depend on other media to educate us on who the owner of Facebook is.
Because he had Earlier said, God is imaginary because humans talk about God

Likewise, So I also asked Is Zuckerberg imaginary because relatively lower media outlets talk about Zuckerberg, according to his logic.
because He feels God is imaginary because he feels humans who are lower talk about God.

Its too Early for you to start acting dense.
Read and comprehend
Sorry.
Good Morning undecided

You keep showing that you are foolish. Humans do not talk about God, humans do everything for their Gods. Show me jut one thing that any God has ever done to communicate with humans on his own. Humans write different stories about their Gods. Humans build and create religions after their Gods, humans create a culture after their Gods, humans do everything for their various Gods. Name just one thing that any God has ever done for itself. Even your own God relies on people to spread it's important message despite the fact that he wants people to know Him and be in a relationship with him.

Zuckerberg is NOT omnipotent. Stop that analogy you dons. Did any body woo your wife for you?

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by hopefulLandlord: 9:03am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You keep showing that you are foolish. Humans do not talk about God, humans do everything for their Gods. Show me jut one thing that any God has ever done to communicate with humans on his own. Humans write different stories about their Gods. Humans build and create religions after their Gods, humans create a culture after their Gods, humans do everything for their various Gods. Name just one thing that any God has ever done for itself. Even your own God relies on people to spread it's important message despite the fact that he wants people to know Him and be in a relationship with him.

Zuckerberg is NOT omnipotent. Stop that analogy you dons. Did any body woo your wife for you?

https://www.nairaland.com/3844519/meaninglessness-deep-personal-relationship-jesus/8#59006403
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:17am On Aug 08, 2017
NPComplete:


**Sigh** Here we go again. See, unlike u, I don't have to agree with someone to comprehend his argument. I do not agree that God is imaginary. But I get his position clearly. He doesn't believe in an omnipotent God that would rely on people with less than intelligent thinking like yourself to speak for Him; this I strongly agree with.



Another reason I always say your comprehension ability leaves much to be desired. He actually said that because Zuckerberg is limited, being human and all, the need for other media as a means of educating us about him can be excused. Basic comprehension is a problem for u. There is no way u are a doctor.



No doesn't feel so. He argues that ur god, the one u believe in, has to be imaginary because considering he has all the unlimited power u ascribe to him, how come he relies on u of all people, one of the most stupid people I know, to speak for him when he could use that power to convince everyone himself. He even gave an example of how Zuckerberg can clarify misconceptions about himself when the need arises.



After explaining how to read and comprehend to u, tell me how u came by ur own understanding of Dalaman's argument. Jeez no one can be this stupid. No one.

You do not agree that God is imaginary
Then educate your fellow Ignoramus......

You both sound foolish.
Sorry

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:18am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You made only one interesting point and I'll take it from there. You said I can reach out to God. So tell me which God can I reach out to and how? How will I know that it's God and not some other phenomenon?

God is God
God never chastizes anyone for calling Him God
Reach out to Him
Its Simple as that..

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 9:23am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


God is God
God never chastizes anyone for calling Him God
Reach out to Him
Its Simple as that..

More empty platitudes. God is God how? There are many different Gods. How do I reach out?

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:25am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


You keep showing that you are foolish. Humans do not talk about God, humans do everything for their Gods. Show me jut one thing that any God has ever done to communicate with humans on his own. Humans write different stories about their Gods. Humans build and create religions after their Gods, humans create a culture after their Gods, humans do everything for their various Gods. Name just one thing that any God has ever done for itself. Even your own God relies on people to spread it's important message despite the fact that he wants people to know Him and be in a relationship with him.

Zuckerberg is NOT omnipotent. Stop that analogy you dons. Did any body woo your wife for you?

Sorry, your foolish logic died
I know its painful for you

Omnipotent does not mean "all-doing"
God can reveal himself to you in a dream and you will still choose to shut up.
Just as media tells us Zuckerberg is not an atheist but some people still believe he is an atheist deep down
There are millions of people who daily continue to experience God in miracles, dreams, vision, prayer etc
In your head, there is no such thing abi.....?

Mscheww

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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 9:25am On Aug 08, 2017
NPComplete:


**Sigh** Here we go again. See, unlike u, I don't have to agree with someone to comprehend his argument. I do not agree that God is imaginary. But I get his position clearly. He doesn't believe in an omnipotent God that would rely on people with less than intelligent thinking like yourself to speak for Him; this I strongly agree with.



Another reason I always say your comprehension ability leaves much to be desired. He actually said that because Zuckerberg is limited, being human and all, the need for other media as a means of educating us about him can be excused. Basic comprehension is a problem for u. There is no way u are a doctor.



No doesn't feel so. He argues that ur god, the one u believe in, has to be imaginary because considering he has all the unlimited power u ascribe to him, how come he relies on u of all people, one of the most stupid people I know, to speak for him when he could use that power to convince everyone himself. He even gave an example of how Zuckerberg can clarify misconceptions about himself when the need arises.



After explaining how to read and comprehend to u, tell me how u came by ur own understanding of Dalaman's argument. Jeez no one can be this stupid. No one.

grin grin. See flogging.
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by dalaman: 9:27am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


Sorry, your foolish logic died
I know its painful for you

Omnipotent does not mean "all-doing"
God can reveal himself to you in a dream and you will still choose to shut up.
Just as media tells us Zuckerberg is not an atheist but some people still believe he is an atheist deep down
There are millions of people who daily continue to experience God in miracles, dreams, vision, prayer etc
In your head, there is no such thing abi.....?

Mscheww




So your God has now been relegated to dreams, visions and prayers? Well done.
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:27am On Aug 08, 2017
dalaman:


More empty platitudes. God is God how? There are many different Gods. How do I reach out?

There are different Gods just as Chukwu is different from Oluwa abi?

The day you throw away this ignorance is the day you receive healing.

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