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Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:17pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Ariani: Kindly read up The Meaning and Method of Afa Divination among the Northern Nsukka Ibo by AUSTIN J. SHELTON’ State University of New York, 1965 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 11:19pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Your desperate to berate Igbos as uncreative, lowly and lacking a culture and civilization of their own through out this thread show you are trash talking Igbos. Whenever Igbos have been proven to own a thing, you crawl out of your hole to attempt to take it from them and discredit them and give credit to other tribes. What the hell is your problem? Did Igbos take anything from you? Why exactly are you moving this crazy when it comes to Igbos. What sort of inferiority complex are you suffering from that you have to fight to credit igbo culture and civilization to your Yoruba and Benin? Pathetic. No, Afa didn't originate in Yoruba. Stop peddling that falsehood to give yourself a false sense of superiority and achievement. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 11:23pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Boudiccao: By the way I understand Yoruba. Similar words found in both groups. Afa/Ifa Mmili/Omi Onu/Enu Isee/Ase 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 11:23pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Trash. Let the historians go round Igboland and make research. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 11:25pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Are you aware the Igbo and Yoruba belong to the same language family, Niger-Congo and a branch of that language YEAI group. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 11:25pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn:No be only experienced people. Afa has nothing to do with Ifa. Igbos didn't take anything from you. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:25pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
bomb24: The only reason Aro-Anglo war didn't last longer was that the British were cunning. Before the war , they went on a campaign where by they lured the people to bring out their guns to be broken, by either paying them for submitting their guns or by using their local police. The British were nicknamed "Ndi otiji Egbe" in the Aro area for this. After a while the Aro sensed what was happening, and halted the campaign, but it was too late by then, they had lost too many guns and it took the Igbo local blacksmiths time to reproduce enough guns on time to ready the Aro Confederate for the war. The Aro were simply outwitted and out gunned. But they atleast mounted a resistance for 6 months. The fable Empire of one fat king that every one else prostrate before like they don't have brains of their own lasted just a bit over 1 day before capitulating. Yet these mad people come out and tell us how their useless weak village Monarchical system of Government were stronger than our Republican system, and how it made them more civilised than us. Lol! Of course the British were praising their stupid Monarchical system because they knew it made things quite easy for their colonial intents. They just took out the king or just replaced him with a stooge and the entire people bowed to the British. In IGBOLAND,there was no king. It was a very complex society of age grade leaders, elder councils, priests of deities, titled men, women groups ( Umuada and Omus) , etc. All having equal stake in the day to day governance of the society. There was no visible head for them to decapitate and bring everyone else under control. They knew they were going to face stiff resistance in Igboland and that the campaign would cost them alot in human and resources. Why would you expect them to praise such a system of Government? 9 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:26pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
bomb24: you obviously know little about colonial conquests. on December 28 1901, Arochukwu was captured after 4 days of battle and the Ibini Ukpabi shrine was blown up. Kindly state the acclaimed 5 months for us. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:27pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Post the relevant excerpt from the study that says that Igbos borrowed Afa from Yoruba Ifa I don't have time to read an entire book. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:27pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Boudiccao: Read up. I am not the issue here. direct your musket to further research or leave the subject. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:29pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War However, Arochukwu was captured on December 28 after four days of fierce battles in and around the city. As a result, the Ibini Ukpabi shrine was allegedly blown up. Battles between British and Aro forces continued throughout the region until spring 1902 when Aro forces were defeated in the last major battle at Bende. The Aro Expedition ended three weeks later. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 11:31pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
IDENNAA: The bigot thinks because both groups share similar words then Igbos took from Yorubas and because they have similar patterns in their cultures, then Igbos took it from Yorubas. He is an ethnic bigot because following his logic Igbos have no civilization, that is what he has been trying to imply and peddle through out this thread. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:31pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Ariani: Is it another Arochukwu that was conquered in 1901? Give dates of this wonderful events you just described. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by bomb24: 11:31pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: The battle started in November 1901 and ended in March 1902 now decipher 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:32pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Ariani: State the 5 months in which the Arochukwu war allegedly was waged 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:33pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
bomb24: Arochukwu was conquered on December 28, 1901. Why adding other battles for other lands into it? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:34pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: "However, Arochukwu was captured on December 28 after four days of fierce battles in and around the city. As a result, the Ibini Ukpabi shrine was allegedly blown up. Battles between British and Aro forces continued throughout the region until spring 1902 when Aro forces were defeated in the last major battle at Bende. The Aro Expedition ended three weeks later." Arochukwu had no fat lazy man people are bowing down to. When Ibini Ukpabi shrine was captured, the Aro forces didn't surrender immediately. They opened up new battle grounds and the war ranged on for 5 months. Nov 1901 to March 1902. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:36pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Because Arochukwu was a Confederate. Arochukwu town is the headquarters of the confederation. So when Arochukwu town fell, the confederation rallied around and fought to protect other parts of the confederation with hope to push the British forces back and reclaim the headquarters of the confederation, ie Arochukwu town. This is not your mushroom empire of fairy tales. That was captured in a day. And that was it. 7 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:37pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Ariani: BATTLES FOUGHT DURING THE EXPEDITION Battles in the Oguta/Owerri area (November 1901) Battles of Esu Itu (December 1901) Battles of Arochukwu (December 1901) Battle of Edimma (January 1902) Battle of Ikotobo (January 1902) Battle of Ikorodaka (February 1902) Battle of Bende (March 1902) These were different battles for different areas. Battle of Arochukwu was done and dusted in 4 days. simple. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:41pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: You are not teachable. There is Arochukwu town,and there is Arochukwu Confederate headed by Aros with it's headquarters at Arochukwu town. It's like Enugu City and Enugu State. You capture Enugu city, but you haven't captured Enugu State. The people will simply leave the Enugu city and fight you in trenches dug in other towns within Enugu State, but outside Enugu City. A war is made up of battles. 7 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:41pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Ariani: When you all started the narrative, you painted it as if Arochukwu held the British at bay for 5 months. Now, it is clear to the world that Arochukwu was seized in 4 days. The British took their war machine all round to conquer 4 other settlements by March of 1902. These are the facts. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by IDENNAA(m): 11:41pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
More shared words/etymology. E pada/ gbadaa , both mean different things but they both had to do with movements. E jalo/ kaije both mean the same thing. Let's go. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Ariani: 11:44pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Arochukwu is the name of the confederation and also name of the chief town You are the confused one. Aro confederation was not a single town. It's a group of related and rightly knitted Igbo groups with Arochukwu town as it's headquarters. Arochukwu fought the British four 5 months. Every Igbo man knows that Aros never acted alone. They always worked with their Abam, Edda, Ohafia, etc allies. They were all called Aro people because the Aro was the brain and the others were the brawn. 8 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Denn(m): 11:45pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
need to go sleep now. It has been wonderful talking with you guys. Remember, we are all brothers, irrespective of our different opinions. Lets all reduce insults and tribal hate. Cheers 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by bomb24: 11:54pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Denn: Arochukwu kingdom was defeated on March 2, 1902. though its Administrative town fell within 4 days, they still maintained their lines and pulled waves and waves of different attacks until they were finally rounded up and defeated. |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by javaRookie: 12:37am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Men!! What a thread. This thread was quite expository with lots of learned and logical contributions from both parties. A pure eye opener. I liked the subtle jabs here and there tho. It made the thread lively. Nairaland has lots of badass historians o!! Respect!!! 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by vincentjk(m): 1:39am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Nwanne you sabi history well abeg 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Walkee: 7:02am On Jul 24, 2021 |
bomb24:lol ignorance. The 250 that came at first were butchered in a far away forest |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Nisiw365: 7:36am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani:Point of correction. The yoruba spelling is orisa. But some people put the 'h' when pronouncing it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Vs Bini: Reno Omokri Destroys Uche Chuta In A Public Debate (VIDEO) by Boudiccao: 7:41am On Jul 24, 2021 |
Ariani: Don't mind the bigot. What he is calling Ifa is found throughout West Africa and it comes with different names and obviously going to have similar patterns since it's a Niger Congo stuff. No group can lay sole claims of its origin. How a supremacist woke up to peddle the trash of igbo taking it from Yoruba is beyond me. Just because Yoruba religion is over hyped in modern Nigeria doesn't mean other West Africans don't have the same belief systems and solid religion of their own. You can blame the Europeans for that. Once the focus on something, they tend to keep others at the back. Afa, Ifa, Aha, Iha and other names it bears is found throughout the West African region and each group have their gods and their way of doing things. |
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