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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bukhety(f): 3:42am On Aug 06, 2021
Maxime10:
I’m really into a relationship with one now
And facing same issues stated right here
it can never end well. Pls leave before u start paying for mental evaluation.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:46am On Aug 06, 2021
bigcee:

I have a family member who is a Covert Narcissist. He is afraid of me cause I know how to handle him. Especially when he goes into a rage(anger) like a lazy dolt grin grin grin...Very empty and weak people.

How do you handle him?

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by BRATISLAVA: 3:49am On Aug 06, 2021
Cousin9999:
People really abuse that term (narcissist). It's enough to call someone toxic. You don't need to attempt to diagnose them. And once you've identified negative behaviors and unwillingness to change, move on.

It's also important to date someone for a while. Unless someone is a sociopath, they can't really hide who they are for very long. It's a compulsion for toxic people. That said, people can change. But they have to want it, and actively work towards it. And it may involve medication.

Also, toxic people may be happy with other toxic people. Some people actually live well like this. They like each other's mild dysfunction. Some toxic people need to admit who they are and what they prefer, and stop trying to build relationships with those who aren't toxic.

It may not be politically correct, but people from certain backgrounds are more likely to be toxic. If you don't want any parts of dysfunction, you may want to be careful about choosing certain partners. Right or wrong, people born into chaos/dysfunction often find it harder to emerge from it as healthy people. Dysfunction can come from poverty, culture, instability, trauma, less education, or other problems. It's not that you can't have a good relationship with these people. It's that your chances are lower.


Isn't that the character of a narc? To think they can change another person to suit themselves?

Most men are narcissists, and they call it being born to lead.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bukhety(f): 3:54am On Aug 06, 2021
bepositive11:


How do you handle him?
Ignore, ignore, ignore. Don't give them the attention they seek. Don't allow them to give u s!hit cos of you want peace. Though, they enjoy trouble, don't buy into their facade. Maintain your stance. Be ready to play a lot of mind game, they are very good at it. Be observant and never let your guard down. If they tell you good morning, check the time,they might be lying, they are very good liars and manipulators. Always playing victim.
Last but not the least, stay far away, if possible. You will save your mental health!

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:54am On Aug 06, 2021
chatinent:
I am very patient and calm with my partners even in critical times because if I act upon my anger, it will be history.


On one occasion, I knew my partner was cheating yet I played cool...amongst others...until they all realize they were fooling themselves.

I am one person who'll never confront a cheat. I'll rather wait until five minutes to the exchange of marital vows then call off the wedding.


I love peace of mind.


Is that really peace of mind? How does holding grudges against people give you peace of mind?

When people wrong you, isn't it better to work together to resolve the issues or to end the relationship?

There was this story I read. A woman married with 3 kids thought everything was ok. All of a sudden, one day, the husband packed his bags and said he was done. He had been holding in all that was wrong, building resentment until he couldn't take it any longer. Sounds like something you would do

No one's perfect and people make mistakes. In relationships, what matters most is being open and honest and growing to be better partners for each other. Of course, things like cheating is unacceptable. But for other issues, if you just hold them in, you'll never resolve the issue and resentment will keep building. Your partner wouldn't know what's wrong either

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:55am On Aug 06, 2021
pansophist:


They can, and they make the worse narcisst. Deadlier than any kind of narcisst. And its because INFJ personality types are the god of manipulation, narcissistic people are amateurs and nothing but pencils in their hands.

Think of some of the most renowned folks that deal and wrote extensively about narcs, you'll see that they are INFJ (eg Carl Jung). InFJ are natures balancers to narcissism. If you want a narc to shit on his pants, match with a INFJ that is aware. Narc are only useful to people that don't know them. I deal with them. Well.

How do you deal with them well?
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:56am On Aug 06, 2021
Weathered:
Most people who are attracted to narcissists have fundamental problems like the OP.

People attracted to narcissists actually have codependency issues
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:56am On Aug 06, 2021
Simeonjoe1:


Seems I have some of these trait though I'm not in a relationship. Have to work on myself

It's good that you're aware. Building a strong sense of self would really help you
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 3:57am On Aug 06, 2021
InvertedHammer:
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Be careful listening to western psychologists and their classifications of human behaviours. In their world, nobody is normal. Do you remember Drapetomania? It was once classified as a mental disorder for slaves to run away from their masters. Sometimes it pays to put down the textbooks and use one's God given brain.

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Do you by chance have any of the traits listed in OP's post?

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:12am On Aug 06, 2021
Cousin9999:
People really abuse that term (narcissist). It's enough to call someone toxic. You don't need to attempt to diagnose them. And once you've identified negative behaviors and unwillingness to change, move on.

It's also important to date someone for a while. Unless someone is a sociopath, they can't really hide who they are for very long. It's a compulsion for toxic people. That said, people can change. But they have to want it, and actively work towards it. And it may involve medication.

Also, toxic people may be happy with other toxic people. Some people actually live well like this. They like each other's mild dysfunction. Some toxic people need to admit who they are and what they prefer, and stop trying to build relationships with those who aren't toxic.

It may not be politically correct, but people from certain backgrounds are more likely to be toxic. If you don't want any parts of dysfunction, you may want to be careful about choosing certain partners. Right or wrong, people born into chaos/dysfunction often find it harder to emerge from it as healthy people. Dysfunction can come from poverty, culture, instability, trauma, less education, or other problems. It's not that you can't have a good relationship with these people. It's that your chances are lower.


I agree with a lot of your points. Dysfunction is indeed the root cause of many problems in our society. Yet, it's overlooked. People are coming up with all sorts of policies to address them, but the problem is they're not addressing the root of the problem -- dysfunction

Regarding your points on narcissists, toxic people and sociopaths, first of all, narcissists and sociopaths are different and they both never change.

I think it's important to be able to identify the differences between narcissists and people with a few toxic traits. You sound like someone with a strong sense of self, so it'll be easier for you to identify them and cut them off. Sadly though, many can't. People with a weaker sense of self are codependent so it's not easy for them to identify negative behaviours and move on.

Write ups like OP's are for people like them.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:14am On Aug 06, 2021
Youngpo413:
Run! except he is very rich...then u can stay.

Live a life of wealth and misery? It's not worth it. Peace of mind is priceless

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:15am On Aug 06, 2021
Benard5050:


I can't believe I'm a typical example of this cry cry cry

I want to change pls

It's good that you're aware. Work on building a strong sense of self and these traits will gradually disappear
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:16am On Aug 06, 2021
abbey621:
Here's a shocker, majority of humans in this world are narcissists. It is one of the core traits of being human, let no one tell you otherwise! In life everything must be looked at in terms of severity, we all have that dark side but majority of us are fortunate to have anchors that limits that darkness. Behavioral analysis of the human psyche is a controversial yet often misguided journey, what you call narcissistic, another will call assertive or leadership. For example in the business world, the best and most successful business moguls are by definition narcissist, they are obssessed with their craft and often will break your heart if you don't have a thick skin. In relationships, if you are dating a man or married to a man that basically does everything for you then naturally you've given him the power of a narcissist, same goes for guys who can't cook, sleep or think properly without their girlfriend/wife.

It's part of life and it is completely unavoidable, the real question here is this, how does one narcisst maintain a relationship with another narcisst? Think about it, unless you don't have an emotional connection with your partner, how do you resist the urge to have a say in how they dress, eat, mingle etc? Your woman did hair, makeup and you didn't even notice due to hectic work schedule, do you call her a narcissist for having emotional tantrum or getting upset? You are broke and could not fulfill a promise to your wife so you bone face and start a fight just to avoid that promise, are you a narcissist? It's one thing to throw around fancy words and use theories, it's another to actually view things in practical/real life.

Do you have the traits described in OP's post?
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:17am On Aug 06, 2021
YorubaNinja:
Trump is one! cool

A very very big one at that!

It's amazing how so many people were mesmerized by him! Yet, he's a very toxic person!

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:22am On Aug 06, 2021
bukhety:

Ignore, ignore, ignore. Don't give them the attention they seek. Don't allow them to give u s!hit cos of you want peace. Though, they enjoy trouble, don't buy into their facade. Maintain your stance. Be ready to play a lot of mind game, they are very good at it. Be observant and never let your guard down. If they tell you good morning, check the time,they might be lying, they are very good liars and manipulators. Always playing victim.
Last but not the least, stay far away, if possible. You will save your mental health!

Thanks for sharing! Very true. At the end of the day, it's better to just stay away and have peace of mind

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Nobody: 4:32am On Aug 06, 2021
NoFucksToGive:

This topic has been so over done on YouTube and on dating websites.

There are over a.million articles and videos online telling you how to know if you are dating a narcissistic person.

Yet this was brought to front page ?

Is it there is no content available or what ?
not everyone is on YouTube and dating websites

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by abbey621(m): 4:34am On Aug 06, 2021
bepositive11:


Do you have the traits described in OP's post?

Yes we all do to a degree! While the traits that the OP used were in extreme forms, try and picture some of those traits in simpler everyday use. A frustated husband, a depressed wife, a boss on your neck to meet project deadline etc.
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Regex: 4:50am On Aug 06, 2021
pansophist:
I can relate. It takes me just a week to know that this sweet girl that is in front of me was a narcissist, even worse, she suffers from Princess syndrome join. But I first doubted it, I knew something was off. So I was observing, entering a month, then it becomes clear. My next strategy was to exit, but again, you want to exit in such a way that they can not revenge because they are very vengeful and to hurt them deeply, treat them with indifference.

You only need to experience one narc, to know them. They are perfect chameleons, and always target good guys, but very stupid. Their behaviours can only go far with people that are insecure. If you're self assured, autonomous and not insecure, they will have nothing over you. This emotional vampires can easily be spotted by INFJ personality types.


What is INFJ?

I had a housemate/friend who is a narc. He suffers from victim syndrome. Thinks everyone is after him. The very youngest but wants to control the house. The perfect chameleon, you will never suspect. Dude is very vengeful and that will be his undoing.


I started being indifferent to him, and it killed him. He usually disturbs the whole house with music, one day he came out the back of the house with his phone playing music right under my window, I had my window closed due to the cold, omo, I opened it wide to get some air, I noticed the music didn't last 2 minutes and he went inside.


Then I realized, normally when he plays his music so loud, other people shut their windows, and he continues to play it even louder, that means his aim is to disturb. I guess me opening my windows told him, I am enjoying the music...

Anywho, they're the worst set of people to have anything to do with. If you don't align with them, you are an enemy. If they can't control you, you are enemy. Always the victim yet the 100% perpetrator.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bepositive11: 4:52am On Aug 06, 2021
abbey621:


Yes we all do to a degree! While the traits that the OP used were in extreme forms, try and picture some of those traits in simpler everyday use. A frustated husband, a depressed wife, a boss on your neck to meet project deadline etc.

There's a big difference between people who have some fleas (narcissistic traits) and people who are truly narcissists. People with fleas can grow and change but true narcissists never change. They remain the same. They would do everything to justify their behaviours and blame everyone else but themselves

Narcissists ruin people's lives and mental wellbeing. Not everyone is a narcissist

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by ozonechrome: 5:14am On Aug 06, 2021
SmartyPants:
My ex is a medical doctor and she insists I'm a proper narcissist

She may not be far from the truth by your name.

They have a grandiose sense of self wrapped in insecurity.

Always think they are better than everyone else and doing people favours by being with them or in their team.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by nokspos: 5:39am On Aug 06, 2021
one good thing about them is that , they always do well in life, they are the best in their field. They could also fall in love for you from zero and rise to 100 within one day. They would give you all the support you want in life during that period they are loving you. I just love to take an advantage of them during that period, coz they get angry easily and the next thing their love is back to zero.


Ladylawyer:
I didn't know about the word naracissim until recently. And i also learnt one thing, they mostly attach themselves to people with low self esteem. If you value yourself they wouldn't have so much power over you and so they will take off with the speed of light because the supply which they seek from you, they will not get.
They feel better when they oppress you and make you cry. The tears of their significant other gives the narcissist so much joy.

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by abbey621(m): 5:44am On Aug 06, 2021
bepositive11:


There's a big difference between people who have some fleas (narcissistic traits) and people who are truly narcissists. People with fleas can grow and change but true narcissists never change. They remain the same. They would do everything to justify their behaviours and blame everyone else but themselves

Narcissists ruin people's lives and mental wellbeing. Not everyone is a narcissist


We are saying the same thing, everyone has narcissistic traits, everyone has the tendencies to grow into true narcissists. I disagree with you saying not everyone is a narcissist, if you have the traits you have the tendencies. Just like we all have the potential to love, to be happy, to be sad, to prosper or become useless but potential does not equate manifestation.

I'll give you a real life example, a guy I know was a very good guy in school, never missed church, did not drink or party. He graduated, got a job, married and was blessed with 3 kids, fast forward 10 years later, man has been unemployed for over 2 years, his wife is constantly lamenting because he turned into a chronic drinker, man no longer goes to church, shouts with the slightest of provocation and monitors his wife like an hawk.

This young man with so much potential and the elast likely to misbehave is now the joke of the town. Was he born a narcissist or did life expose and grew his narcissistic traits?
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by newdawn2017(f): 5:56am On Aug 06, 2021
Dliquidmetal:
I think I have some of this traits but not all
dis is d first to ue redemption. Now get help, u can follow dis page on ig @afriproud

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by skedy1(m): 6:20am On Aug 06, 2021
OP

Na it be say all these girls for Calabar na Narcissists them be. All of them!
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Cousin9999: 7:05am On Aug 06, 2021
bepositive11:
Narcissists and sociopaths are different and they both never change.

I never said they were the same. I said that a sociopath can hide who they are, but not a narcissist or toxic person.

And narcissists can change. It's just that they rarely get treatment. NPD, according to experts, comes from coping behaviors and defenses people develop in difficult situations. If someone is mature and aware enough to essentially reprogram themselves, they're capable of healthy relationships.

I think it's important to be able to identify the differences between narcissists and people with a few toxic traits.

I think it's dangerous to describe toxic behavior as "a few toxic traits." That's like saying "a little bit pregnant." Obviously, no one is perfect. But everyone should be on a path of self-improvement. Both the narcissist and person with "a few toxic traits" have work to do.

People with a weaker sense of self are codependent so it's not easy for them to identify negative behaviours and move on.


I don't think sense of self or "codependency" motivates those poor choices. I think they ironically suffer from many of the same problems as the narcissist, but develop different maladaptive patterns. They basically need to reprogram too.
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Nobody: 7:17am On Aug 06, 2021
abbey621:
Here's a shocker, majority of humans in this world are narcissists. It is one of the core traits of being human, let no one tell you otherwise! In life everything must be looked at in terms of severity, we all have that dark side but majority of us are fortunate to have anchors that limits that darkness. Behavioral analysis of the human psyche is a controversial yet often misguided journey, what you call narcissistic, another will call assertive or leadership. For example in the business world, the best and most successful business moguls are by definition narcissist, they are obssessed with their craft and often will break your heart if you don't have a thick skin. In relationships, if you are dating a man or married to a man that basically does everything for you then naturally you've given him the power of a narcissist, same goes for guys who can't cook, sleep or think properly without their girlfriend/wife.

It's part of life and it is completely unavoidable, the real question here is this, how does one narcisst maintain a relationship with another narcisst? Think about it, unless you don't have an emotional connection with your partner, how do you resist the urge to have a say in how they dress, eat, mingle etc? Your woman did hair, makeup and you didn't even notice due to hectic work schedule, do you call her a narcissist for having emotional tantrum or getting upset?You are broke and could not fulfill a promise to your wife so you bone face and start a fight just to avoid that promise, are you a narcissist? It's one thing to throw around fancy words and use theories, it's another to actually view things in practical/real life.
that's a narcissist grin

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Nobody: 7:28am On Aug 06, 2021
Chawoan:



I will just break up with him. This what even pissed me, yesterday he asked me to meet him at a bar, I don't like going to bars and he knows it. I went there he was with a relative he wanted to introduce me. He asked me to order and I told him I wasn't eating this was because I was fasting and I let him know that's the reason.

I told him I will prefer fruits first but they were not selling there. He said he will go get fruit salad but I told him to leave it since I will soon be leaving, it was already past 6. That's where I bought wahala oh, that that's how I will be doing that why will I say I won't eat. His relative was listening to us now, I wanted the whole thing to end there so we won't display outside. He no gree oh. That he knows going to a bar too is sin for me that even Jesus broke his fast with water and me I will just be forming what he doesn't know.

I didn't even know what to say, his relative was watching us. I told him am not him, the fact that he breaks with water doesn't mean I will too. The statement broke the carmel's back oh, he said in short I should just go. That why will I make such a statement to him, that it means I don't want to learn. Kai him matter just tire me, once he has an opinion about something, he feels everyone else must have the same. This someone that was asking me to introduce him to my parents and was talking marriage when the relationship was not even up to a month. I told him to calm down that we needed to study ourselves more. Thank God I didn't oh.
will you break up while you can or are you waiting to break up after he's completely broken you down? Because let me tell you HE WILL BREAK YOU DOWN. grin

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by Nobody: 7:32am On Aug 06, 2021
bukhety:

A narc enjoys trouble, seeks it. It's more than just been jealous. There is a pattern of attention seeking in a narc, if they don't get it, they throw tantrums. Getting angry over minor thing. This is a clear personality disorder, its different from the normal issues people face. I pray you don't meet one. They can drain one mentally and emotionally. It's tiring abeg.
you described my father. And my mom is an educated empath. Before when he throws tantrums at not getting his way, she'd be very worried and move heaven and earth to make him happy. Nowadays, she doesn't even send him. He throw tantrums, he tire. cheesy

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by bukatyne(f): 7:42am On Aug 06, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


Isn't that the character of a narc? To think they can change another person to suit themselves?

Most men are narcissists, and they call it being born to lead.

@bold:

By nature or nurture?
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by chatinent: 7:54am On Aug 06, 2021
bepositive11:


Is that really peace of mind? How does holding grudges against people give you peace of mind?

When people wrong you, isn't it better to work together to resolve the issues or to end the relationship?

There was this story I read. A woman married with 3 kids thought everything was ok. All of a sudden, one day, the husband packed his bags and said he was done. He had been holding in all that was wrong, building resentment until he couldn't take it any longer. Sounds like something you would do

No one's perfect and people make mistakes. In relationships, what matters most is being open and honest and growing to be better partners for each other. Of course, things like cheating is unacceptable. But for other issues, if you just hold them in, you'll never resolve the issue and resentment will keep building. Your partner wouldn't know what's wrong either

Yeah, but mine is different. It wouldn't reach marriage.
Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by SmartyPants(m): 8:14am On Aug 06, 2021
NovusHomo:


Congratulations grin grin.

Thank you my dear..it was not an easy achievement smiley

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Re: Who Is A Narcissist And How Are You Sure You Are Not Dating Or About To Date One by SmartyPants(m): 8:15am On Aug 06, 2021
ozonechrome:


She may not be far from the truth by your name.

They have a grandiose sense of self wrapped in insecurity.

Always think they are better than everyone else and doing people favours by being with them or in their team.

Oh well.. someone has to be abnormal for the rest of mankind to feel normal wink

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