James get him own disciples separate!

freshboi88:

Is Peter not a Jew, or is Paul not a Jew as well? Why did he need to be hypocritical? It's not like the people who came were Pharisees. They were disciples of James.

So what favour did Peter need with them? And why did he need to pretend to disciples of James?

DappaD:


We are still asking you where the highlighted happened but you’ve refused to answer.
Only Satan the Devil is against unity that’s why his only motive is to tear down and destroy(John 10:10) and since you’re a proponent against unity, you’ve proved yourself to be a child of the Devil. John 8:44

Dnt rush ahead of your self. Why did Peter see the need to pretend before disciples of James even when he had preached that circumcision was not required ?

freshboi88:

Is Peter not a Jew, or is Paul not a Jew as well? Why did he need to be hypocritical? It's not like the people who came were Pharisees. They were disciples of James.
So what favour did Peter need with them? And why did he need to pretend to disciples of James?

For your information, Jesus told Peter and his disciples that Satan is working overtime to make sure there is disunity amongst God’s people. Luke 22:31
So once you keep harping on their mistakes, it clearly shows that you’re an advocate of the Devil.

Chai DappaD don spoil the season film!

You're releasing him from the torture nah!

You should have continued to draw him out of his hiding place for everyone to see how empty headed the boy is. Now you've ended it all because he will seaze the opportunity to turn everything to exchange of words instead of quoting scriptures out of context!

You've given him an easy escape!

DappaD:


We are still asking you where the highlighted happened but you’ve refused to answer.
Only Satan the Devil is against unity that’s why his only motive is to tear down and destroy(John 10:10) and since you’re a proponent against unity, you’ve proved yourself to be a child of the Devil. John 8:44

freshboi88:

Dnt rush ahead of your self. Why did Peter see the need to pretend before disciples of James even when he had preached that circumcision was not required ?

Cornelius was an uncircumcised Gentile yet Peter went to his home to preach to him and even came to the conclusion that God is not partial and that he accepts even those from the nations who are uncircumcised. Acts 10:34,35
So the issue is not that he had a different doctrine but that he displayed hypocrisy.

So here’s my question to you now, if you say Christians can have different doctrines and still be followers of Christ, between you and another person who has a different teaching, which one of you is showing hypocrisy and pretense? Because from what transpired in Galatians chapter 2, you’ve been harping on the mistakes of Peter that he had a different doctrine so you have to agree that the other person claiming Christian is a hypocrite once he has a different doctrine from you so we’re back again to where we started!

MaxInDHouse:
James get him own disciples separate!

What is wrong with that.....this one doesn't know the meaning of the word

DappaD:


Cornelius was an uncircumcised Gentile yet Peter went to his home to preach to him and even came to the conclusion that God is not partial and that he accepts even those from the nations who are uncircumcised. Acts 10:34,35
So the issue is not that he had a different doctrine but that he displayed hypocrisy.

So here’s my question to you now, if you say Christians can have different doctrines and still be followers of Christ, between you and another person who has a different teaching, which one of you is showing hypocrisy and pretense? Because from what transpired in Galatians chapter 2, you’ve been harping on the mistakes of Peter that he had a different doctrine so you have to agree that the other person claiming Christian is a hypocrite once he has a different doctrine from you so we’re back again to where we started!

So why did Peter need to pretend before the men that came from James ?

Why did he display hypocrisy... something must have triggered it.

freshboi88:

So why did Peter need to pretend before the men that came from James ?
Why did he display hypocrisy... something must have triggered it.

Anywhere you see Peter please ask him why he displayed hypocrisy.
From what Peter was able to do at Acts chapter 10 and 11, it shows that he was not against those not circumcised but had taken a false step and needed readjustment.

DappaD:


Cornelius was an uncircumcised Gentile yet Peter went to his home to preach to him and even came to the conclusion that God is not partial and that he accepts even those from the nations who are uncircumcised. Acts 10:34,35
So the issue is not that he had a different doctrine but that he displayed hypocrisy.

So here’s my question to you now, if you say Christians can have different doctrines and still be followers of Christ, between you and another person who has a different teaching, which one of you is showing hypocrisy and pretense? Because from what transpired in Galatians chapter 2, you’ve been harping on the mistakes of Peter that he had a different doctrine so you have to agree that the other person claiming Christian is a hypocrite once he has a different doctrine from you so we’re back again to where we started!

You don hook.....d Bible states that the men that came, came from James, so they are fellow Christians n since there was unity in the Christian fold. Why did Peter feel the need to stop eating with gentiles when he saw them ?

DappaD:


Anywhere you see Peter please ask him why he displayed hypocrisy.
From what Peter was able to do at Acts chapter 10 and 11, it shows that he was not against those not circumcised but had taken a false step and needed readjustment.

Ode!....see the level of reasoning of the person I'm debating with. He saw his fellow christians so why d need to pretend ?

freshboi88:

You don hook.....d Bible states that the men that came, came from James, so they are fellow Christians n since there was unity in the Christian fold. Why did Peter feel the need to stop eating with gentiles when he saw them ?

freshboi88:

Ode!....see the level of reasoning of the person I'm debating with. He saw his fellow christians so why d need to pretend ?

You find it hard to reason and understand, right? Let’s remove the men that came from James out of the equation first. So if Peter had already been eating and associating with the men from the nations, then how could he be against un-circumcision?

DappaD:


Anywhere you see Peter please ask him why he displayed hypocrisy.
From what Peter was able to do at Acts chapter 10 and 11, it shows that he was not against those not circumcised but had taken a false step and needed readjustment.

Peter wouldn't just take a false step like a relapse.... something triggered that relapse. How come he didn't relapse until he saw men who came from James

DappaD:




You find it hard to reason and understand, right? Let’s remove the men that came from James out of the equation first. So if Peter had already been eating and associating with the men from the nations, then how could he be against un-circumcision?

U can't remove the men that came James they are a keep part to understanding why he did what he did.....go and study scripture man not just what your watch tower deceivers tell u

DappaD:




You find it hard to reason and understand, right? Let’s remove the men that came from James out of the equation first. So if Peter had already been eating and associating with the men from the nations, then how could he be against un-circumcision?

Do u even know the meaning of been hypocritical ?

freshboi88:

Do u even know the meaning of been hypocritical ?

freshboi88:

U can't remove the men that came James they are a keep part to understanding why he did what he did.....go and study scripture man not just what your watch tower deceivers tell u

freshboi88:

Peter wouldn't just take a false step like a relapse.... something triggered that relapse. How come he didn't relapse until he saw men who came from James

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I’ve already told you before.

DappaD:

Only Satan the Devil is against unity that’s why his only motive is to tear down and destroy(John 10:10) and since you’re a proponent against unity, you’ve proved yourself to be a child of the Devil. John 8:44

Let’s get something straight. Say someone commits sexual immorality, a serious sin that’s worthy of shunning. 1Corinthians 5:11
But the person displays godly sadness and turns away from his sin(2Corinthian 7:10), do you keep asking what led the person to commit that grevious sin and claim that he/she is still advocating for sexual immorality even after he has been reproved? Think!

DappaD:

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I’ve already told you before.




Let’s get something straight. Say someone commits sexual immorality, a serious sin that’s worthy of shunning. 1Corinthians 5:11
But the person displays godly sadness and turns away from his sin(2Corinthian 7:10), do you keep asking what led the person to commit that grevious sin and still claim that he/she supports sexual immorality even after he has been reproved? Think!

So now it's satan u r blaming!...Paul would be very ashamed of u. Because if u read the text properly, it tells us why Peter decided to pretend. I'll make bold the reason so u can see how shameless u r.

Gal 2: 11 When Cephas(A) came to Antioch,(B) I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James,(C) he used to eat with the Gentiles.(D) But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.

James was one of the leaders of church in Jerusalem who belonged to d circumcision group. The group that believed in gentile circumcision. So when Peter saw the men from James he knew what their stand was on eating with uncircumcised gentiles. Now this is why he relapsed and began to pretend.

Paul on the other hand did not believe in gentile circumcision.

Peter was anywhere belle face, trying to play both sides...doing the when in Rome behave like a Roman thing. Now that is why Peter called him out @bold2

So did Paul and James have doctrinal issues on circumcision. The answer is a resounding YES.

But mugu like u who doesn't have the capacity or brain to figure things out for themselves are waiting to see it spelt out word for word. No wonder the things of the spirit are hidden from u. U read the Bible like a story book

MaxInDHouse:
Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7-8

Lol. You now the truth but you're too indoctrinated to admit it.

MaxInDHouse:
Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7-8

Lol. You know the truth but you're too indoctrinated to admit it.

Hismasterpiece:


Lol. You know the truth but you're too indoctrinated to admit it.

No he does not know the truth because he once asked me how can the dead be raised up with which body will they have he actually does not know Bible
Janosky know Bible more than him

Hismasterpiece:


Lol. You know the truth but you're too indoctrinated to admit it.

He will quote Bible that does not have meaning to what the topic is about because he does not know what that verse says

Janosky:



Proverbs 8:22-29 is unrelated to Luke 7:34-25.

Luke 7:34-35 study your Bible and stop DECEIVING yourself.

I'll as you some questions to put this argument to rest and please answer them honestly.

1. Who was God referring to when He said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.'

2. What do you have to say about these scriptures -

Act_13:2. As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, "Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Does a force speak)?

Act 8:29. Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go near and overtake this chariot."

Act_10:19 While Peter thought about the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are seeking you.


Do they or do they not show that the Holy Spirit is a person? Isn't it only people that speak?

There are other scriptures like John 16:7-8, John 16:13-15 where Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as He or Him. But i won't post them. You can check them out for yourself.

However, please answer my question honestly.

Bishopkingsley:


He will quote Bible that does not have meaning to what the topic is about because he does not know what that verse says

I tire o. The truth is glaringly obvious to those who have eyes to see it.

freshboi88:

So now it's satan u r blaming!...Paul would be very ashamed of u. Because if u read the text properly, it tells us why Peter decided to pretend. I'll make bold the reason so u can see how shameless u r.
Gal 2: 11 When Cephas(A) came to Antioch,(B) I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James,(C) he used to eat with the Gentiles.(D) But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.
James was one of the leaders of church in Jerusalem who belonged to d circumcision group. The group that believed in gentile circumcision. So when Peter saw the men from James he knew what their stand was on eating with uncircumcised gentiles. Now this is why he relapsed and began to pretend.
Paul on the other hand did not believe in gentile circumcision.
Peter was anywhere belle face, trying to play both sides...doing the when in Rome behave like a Roman thing. Now that is why Peter called him out @bold2
So did Paul and James have doctrinal issues on circumcision. The answer is a resounding YES.
But mugu like u who doesn't have the capacity or brain to figure things out for themselves are waiting to see it spelt out word for word. No wonder the things of the spirit are hidden from u. U read the Bible like a story book

Walk me through your thought process again. Someone commits a sin like sexual immorality and repents, you keep asking what led the person to do so after repentance and then you claim he still advocates for sexual immorality?. The purpose of readjustment is for one who has begun deviating. 2Corinthians 13:11

If Jesus’ prayer for his disciples to be united was not answered, then Peter would have gone to open his own church and done how he liked after all he saw Jesus live on earth while Paul didn’t but he accepted reproof and wrote that Christians must desist from hypocritical behaviour(1Peter 1:22, 2:1) he even called Paul his brother(2Peter 3:15), now how can he be calling someone you claim that has a different doctrine, his brother? Did he not write that the brothers should be like-minded? 1Peter 3:8

I mean how dense do you need to be before you realise that the highlighted CANNOT be inferred from what happened? You can even see all your buddies are in the background watching how you display your ignorance but they won’t step in to vouch for the gibberish you’re saying now so long as it’s against JWs they’re okay with it, later you’ll start giving yourself rounds of applause after displaying how uncouth you are in terms of knowledge.

If you know the truth there's no need asking me to confirm what you already know, just go out there and make the best use of it.

The world is watching.

Jesus said: "By their fruits you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} go now and exhibit the truth so that the world may see and glorify your God! Matthew 5:13-16

Hismasterpiece:

Lol. You know the truth but you're too indoctrinated to admit it.

MaxInDHouse:
If you know the truth there's no need asking me to confirm what you already know, just go out there and make the best use of it.

The world is watching.

Jesus said: "By their fruits you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} go now and exhibit the truth so that the world may see and glorify your God! Matthew 5:13-16

You have nothing sensible to say that's why you're saying all this.

Please go to bed. Goodnight.

"Nothing sensible" so look for your answers elsewhere!

Hismasterpiece:

You have nothing sensible to say that's why you're saying all this.
Please go to bed. Goodnight.

He often enjoys self appraisal while his cohorts cheers him up!

DappaD:


Walk me through your thought process again. Someone commits a sin like sexual immorality and repents, you keep asking what led the person to do so after repentance and then you claim he still advocates for sexual immorality?. The purpose of readjustment is for one who has begun deviating. 2Corinthians 13:11

If Jesus’ prayer for his disciples to be united was not answered, then Peter would have gone to open his own church and done how he liked after all he saw Jesus live on earth while Paul didn’t but he accepted reproof and wrote that Christians must desist from hypocritical behaviour(1Peter 1:22, 2:1) he even called Paul his brother(2Peter 3:15), now how can he be calling someone you claim that has a different doctrine, his brother? Did he not write that the brothers should be like-minded? 1Peter 3:8

I mean how dense do you need to be before you realise that the highlighted CANNOT be inferred from what happened? You can even see all your buddies are in the background watching how you display your ignorance but they won’t step in to vouch for the gibberish you’re saying now so long as it’s against JWs they’re okay with it, later you’ll start giving yourself rounds of applause after displaying how uncouth you are in terms of knowledge.

MaxInDHouse:
He often enjoys self appraisal while his cohorts cheers him up!

Brother when you start peering into the minds of these people ehn you get to see how far gone they are. Certainly those who keep feeding off from Wormwood will remain in spiritual death and captivity. Revelation 8:11

There is only one life from God called eternal or everlasting life this life is found in Jesus only

He who has the son has this type of life he who does not believe in the son won't have this life

If you don't believe God the son you are already lost

DappaD:


[s]Walk me through your thought process again. Someone commits a sin like sexual immorality and repents, you keep asking what led the person to do so after repentance and then you claim he still advocates for sexual immorality?. The purpose of readjustment is for one who has begun deviating. 2Corinthians 13:11

If Jesus’ prayer for his disciples to be united was not answered, then Peter would have gone to open his own church and done how he liked after all he saw Jesus live on earth while Paul didn’t but he accepted reproof and wrote that Christians must desist from hypocritical behaviour(1Peter 1:22, 2:1) he even called Paul his brother(2Peter 3:15), now how can he be calling someone you claim that has a different doctrine, his brother? Did he not write that the brothers should be like-minded? 1Peter 3:8

I mean how dense do you need to be before you realise that the highlighted CANNOT be inferred from what happened? You can even see all your buddies are in the background watching how you display your ignorance but they won’t step in to vouch for the gibberish you’re saying now so long as it’s against JWs they’re okay with it, later you’ll start giving yourself rounds of applause after displaying how uncouth you are in terms of knowledge.

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11 When Cephas(A) came to Antioch,(B) I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James,(C) he used to eat with the Gentiles.(D) But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.

@bold scripture is clear. If there's a group that belonged to circumcision then there is a group that doesn't. This is a clear case of faction within the first church.

Every other opinion is your false interpretation.

The SECRET is their heart condition!

Jesus is not partial while sowing the seed, some fell on the path the birds picked it!
Some fell on the rocky soil it had no roots so they died!
Some fell on thorns and were choked!
Others fell on the good soil and began sprouting! Matthew 13:3-9

Their hearts are like the first three soils so let them be, those whose hearts are like the good soil will find their pathway to the truth! Matthew 7:13-14

DappaD:

Brother when you start peering into the minds of these people ehn you get to see how far gone they are. Certainly those who keep feeding off from Wormwood will remain in spiritual death and captivity. Revelation 8:11

freshboi88:
11 When Cephas(A) came to Antioch,(B) I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James,(C) he used to eat with the Gentiles.(D) But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.
@bold scripture is clear. If there's a group that belonged to circumcision then there is a group that doesn't. This is a clear case of faction within the first church.
Every other opinion is your false interpretation.

OK. Therefore the following holds true?

Say someone commits sexual immorality, a serious sin that’s worthy of shunning. 1Corinthians 5:11
But the person displays godly sadness and repents/turns away from his sin(2Corinthian 7:10), do you keep asking what led the person to commit that grevious sin and claim that he/she is still advocating for sexual immorality even after he has been reproved?