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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by HolyStriker(m): 5:15pm On Oct 09, 2021
it must not be schemed out. Umahi you're very stupid, it has already been schemed out. What will you do?
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Tinubuadvocate: 5:29pm On Oct 09, 2021
Good point.
seunmsg:


President Bola Ahmed Tinubu will ensure the above is done. It is on record that he was the first civilian governor to appoint Igbos as commissioners in Lagos state. He will integrate the south east into the mainstream of national politics and make a deal with Nnamdi Kanu to renounce Biafra and join the Federal executive council as minister of national unity and integration.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 5:31pm On Oct 09, 2021
Corporate2020:


We are offering you the following;

1. Senate Presidnet
2. Secretary to the government of the federation
3. CHief Justice of the federation
4. Minister for Finance - Charles Chukwuma Soludo
5. CBN governor Kingsley Moghalu
6. Minister for Works - to fix your very bad roads
7. And others . . . . . . .

Wait u mean soludo would re-sign as governor to be minister ? LMAO
We can offer you same
We can offer you all this plus firs , custom and chief of army staff

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 5:32pm On Oct 09, 2021
jneutron4000:
We would continue to offer your people the fertile ground they benefits in our land that makes them progress also your son joe Igbokwe got an appointment in our land, an estate in gbagada is named after your son just last week, we have given you the chance to control major Markets in our land and you shall continue to do so if you support our political interest. What you have being benefiting and stands to benefit is far greater than the VP slot so it is left to you to make the right decision. 2023 will determine your destiny in Yoruba land, in the history of all the pogroms and killings that has happened in Nigeria history especially those melted on your people, you know those that has done that to your people and you keep voting for them against us. If by 2023 you support them again, we go move una go North o since una like to dey support them
LMAO u have nothing to offer us that we can't offer you to support us ...only north has something to offer

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by TheCrusader14: 5:33pm On Oct 09, 2021
Rugaria:
The North has been there for ten years now. That is if you add Yaraduas 2 years to Buhari 6 locust years. By the time Buhari is through, the North would have been there for 12 years! The North has had the vice presidency for 16 years under Nomadi Sambo and Atiku Abubakar. The South West has had the presidency for 8 solid years with Obasanjo and now chasing another 8 solid years with the vice presidency. We are not talking of over 4 decades of military dictatorship by these wayward clans! It's the turn of the east! Simple as that. If you guys can't stand an igboman as your president, fine, Then let my people go... But If any of you insists that the Igbo must be part of Nigeria and yet should Not be allowed to head the country, then you are pulling the tiger by the tail. It will bite.. this very very very madly..

Support a proper Yorubaman in 2023 and we will ensure he hands over to the Ibos in 2031. The Fulani who no longer be a force in the country after the emergence of the Yoruba Presidency.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Ruggman: 5:34pm On Oct 09, 2021
[quote author=seunmsg post=106587958]

President Bola Ahmed Tinubu will ensure the above is done. It is on record that he was the first civilian governor to appoint Igbos as commissioners in Lagos state. He will integrate the south east into the mainstream of national politics and make a deal with Nnamdi Kanu to renounce Biafra and join the Federal executive council as minister of national unity and integration. [/quote

Perish that thought Mr dreamer. Mr tinubu has no business in the presidency. He should go and treat himself, he is a stickman and need not hasten his life for a wide goose chase.

Igbo presidency is the sure way to go
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by vineyardfarms: 5:36pm On Oct 09, 2021
afroniger:



https://tribuneonlineng.com/south-east-governors-demand-2023-presidency/


good idea, but the lgbos lack unity. Hope they come together this time around.
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Rugaria: 5:39pm On Oct 09, 2021
Pataricatering:

Power isnt given on a platter . Power goes to the people who can make alliances , build bridges etc .

No be only bridges. Looks like you built stadiums and cathedrals too...
The option is very clear; elect an easterner or we go our seperate ways. If 2 ethnic groups in Nigeria, continue to collaborate dubiously to share power amongst themselves at the detriment of the rest of the country, folks will have no other option than to help you guys create your Arewaistan or Afonjaistan, so you can weild ultimate power endlessly.. Fight is coming..
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by optimus106(m): 5:43pm On Oct 09, 2021
seunmsg:


President Bola Ahmed Tinubu will ensure the above is done. It is on record that he was the first civilian governor to appoint Igbos as commissioners in Lagos state. He will integrate the south east into the mainstream of national politics and make a deal with Nnamdi Kanu to renounce Biafra and join the Federal executive council as minister of national unity and integration.

Tifnibu stooge...suffer no dey Taya u?

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by waldigit: 5:43pm On Oct 09, 2021
afroniger:



https://tribuneonlineng.com/south-east-governors-demand-2023-presidency/
I will support if the candidate can sign undertaking that he will restructure Nigeria to true fedralism and allow constitutional amendment to include referendum. In short the first duty would be consitutional amendment.
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by jneutron4000: 5:50pm On Oct 09, 2021
mrvitalis:

LMAO u have nothing to offer us that we can't offer you to support us ...only north has something to offer
You have nothing to offer us, the only thing you have to offer the North is your support against us. What you gain in living in Yoruba land is far greater than what you gain in even living in your own land unless you are not honest with yourself

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 09, 2021
Ndi-Igbo need restructuring of Nigeria; not Presidency (Another Elite rubber stamp for the Fulani cabals)

– Oshiomhole
It is more so because the Igbo are the spine of this federation. If you break the spine of the nation, it becomes crippled.

When you go up and down Nigeria, the Igbo constitute the most active economic and cultural force that welds Nigeria.


These people are driven by an independent and free spirit, whom anthropologists have described as “freedom-loving people.”

The real character of the Igbo has very often been mistaken by those who do not understand them, or who hardly study them. They accuse the Igbo of extreme “individualism.” That is a false misreading. The Igbo are driven by what I call the “liberty-impulse.”


That is what their adversaries mistake for “individualism.” There are two connected domains or spaces of the self in the Igbo psyche: there is the “onwe m” – the single autonomous, self-acting agent, and there is “Onwe anyi” – the idea of the “collective self.”

The idea of the “onwe” – self, has roots in the Igbo word, “inwe” – to own. In other words, the “self” in the Igbo conscious articulation of that hermeneutic is an autonomous condition, which cannot be intruded upon by any external force.


The “collective selves” – Onwe anyi – contains a unity of these seamless conditions of autonomous beingness. That is why nobody can claim to speak for the Igbo with absolute authority.

Every Igbo is defined by self-interest which must be fully acknowledged within the larger interest. The Igbo are liberated culturally from the fear of an overwhelming power or authority since traditionally, every Igbo is an authority unto himself/herself.

The Igbo self is the guide to any moral or material aspirations. The Igbo do not make kings. They have consistently told this to the world: “Igbo Enwegh Eze.” The Igbo make no kings. The Igbo have no King.

In spite of some pretenders today who call themselves “Royal Majesties” and “Royal Highnesses,” (a rather witty fellow did add “royal high arses,”) who dress and appear in all kinds of ridiculous masquerade costumes in public, with certificates signed by Local government chairmen making them “Igwe’ or “Eze” or some such aberration over Igbo “Autonomous Communities,” the true Igbo continue to maintain their self-aware and autonomous, and often inviolate independence.

They amuse themselves occasionally by the royal theater of these pseudo-monarchies. But that is all there is to it. Theatre. To the Igbo “Chukwu Wu Eze Ndi Igbo” – only God is King of the Igbo. No human is king to the Igbo. And sometimes, they say, “Oha Wu Eze.” When Igbo people gather, they constitute the Igbo sovereign.

This probably has roots in that very republican idea often mistakenly attributed to the Athenians; or in that Latin conception of people’s power: “Vox Populi, Vox Dei.” The voice of the People is the voice of God.

The Igbo have always known these, and had organized the idea of the Republic, thousands of years before Solon, the founding father of the Athenian state returned to Athens and introduced this system of government, which he learnt from the Egyptians as the practice of a more ancient civilization by people who lived in the lands heading South, towards the rise of the sun in the Atlantean direction.

I have outlined all these to assert two primary conclusions: one, those who have mistaken Igbo sense of freedom and the impulse of liberty for extreme individualism misjudge Igbo capacity for collective action. To the Igbo, the individual self (onwe m) is “primary” but the collective (onwe anyi), once fully constituted, is “prior.”

This Igbo theory and practice of the complimentary selves is what often confuses Igbo adversaries. The individual self very frequently is subsumed into the collective self, after a long, tedious, repetitive, and sometimes mind-twisting process of disputation that often leaves people unfamiliar with Igbo consensus-building impatient and dispirited.

The Igbo are slow to agree on anything and argue over everything under the sun. For every topic, if there are one thousand Igbo in a room, there is bound to be one thousand points of difference and opinions on the same issue.

But that is where people often misunderstand the Igbo. That is where the strength of the Igbo lie. It is that process that allows the Igbo to embark on the difficult process of introspection and self-questioning in order to find a common ground towards collective action.

The Igbo is free to disagree with the rest of the Igbo. But once an agreement is reached in what the Igbo call, “Ikwe ko Rita,” which is by inclusive discussions and negotiations that are tedious and diplomatic, the true Igbo is bound by such agreements.

Once the Igbo raises the call, “Igbo Kwenu! Kwe Zuonu!” through an appointed spokesman who articulates the points of agreement, every Igbo irrespective of title or social standing, becomes bound to the collective will and its objective.

It is here that individual interest becomes inferior to collective interest. It is left then to each household of the Igbo to enforce the Igbo compact, at the risk of ex-communication, at the very least. This is the Igbo way.

Thus far, the general mood in Igbo land is disinterest in the affairs of Nigeria. Every Igbo household accepts this. A vast number of the Igbo are disaffected and alienated from Nigeria, and those Igbo middlemen who go about claiming to speak for the Igbo must tell the Nigerian authorities the truth.

Inside Igbo land today, a debate is raging about the future of the Igbo in Nigeria, and many of these folks have no control over it. They must therefore be careful in laying it all out there because this mood is new and dangerous.

It has been said that some folks met recently in Owerri to “chart the course for an Igbo presidency.” But do the Igbo want the presidency? Clearly, some do. Some don’t. Listen to a man like Mr. Achike Udenwa, for instance, former governor of Imo state.

In his interview recently in the Sun Newspaper. He very clearly said the Igbo are not interested in the presidency. They want a restructuring of Nigeria first. What kind of president would it be, in the current political system? Clearly, two main factions have emerged in Igbo land today as I feared they would: there is the militant separatist movement, whose main arrowhead today is the IPOB.

They are driving a very youthful militant uprising which is creating a political storm in the old East. This neo-Biafra movement rests squarely on unsettled grievances; it began to assume new militant dimensions because of the failed politics of Muhammadu Buhari whose policies and doctrine of nepotism drove a permanent wedge with long-suffering Igbo youth.

The serial acts of misgovernance by this administration only added lint to the fire. There are the “One Nigerianists” – who, though disenchanted with Nigeria, do not see separation as much of a political choice.

Their argument is quite simple: Nigeria is a work in progress; Buhari’s time will come and go; the Igbo have invested too much in Nigeria to allow it to perish; it is therefore in the long term strategic interest of the Igbo and other Nigerian ethnicities to work together and revamp Nigeria to fulfill the terms of its founding as Africa’s super-state.

The separatists think the One-Nigerianists “romantic day-dreamers” who do not yet see how unworkable a contraption Nigeria is, and has become.

What is currently playing out in the East is the exact scenario in Ireland during the era of the troubles, leading to the 1915 Easter Massacres, captured in W.B. Yeats poem, “Easter, 1915,” and leading therefrom to the growth of the armed militancy of the Irish Republican Army against the Unionists.

The IPOB is increasingly like the IRA and may someday, arrive at its organizational network if it continues to evolve, and if its leadership grows the organizational skills and intellectual depth, and the fierce nationalist zeal of the founders of the Irish Republican Army.

The downside of course is that soon, there may be the equivalent of the “troubles” in Igbo land and Nigeria – with all the assassinations, tortures, bombings, and executions that characterized the Irish militant resistance. These things happen and echo each other.

Taking all these into view, what must the Igbo and Nigeria, in general, do now, before it all goes out of hand? That is the question, and I do not know the answer. The little inkling I have is, Igbo youth, like many of their colleagues in Nigeria are frustrated by the Nigerian state.

They have no outlets for self-expression. They have no hopes. They are materially poor. Young folk, many at 35 are still unsettled, without prospects, without income; without companionable relationships, and thus restless.

This is especially so among the Igbo with the highest unemployment rate among a highly educated and skilled population. This is what is driving the separatists – a desire to be free of the burden called “Nigeria.”

These young men, liberated from the intimidations of high authority, and constructed along the principles of self-determination, inside the concept of “onwem” and “onwe anyi” are taking their destiny into their hands.

They have increasingly no regard for their “elders” whom they think, rightly or wrongly, as the core of the “One-Nigerianists” that have betrayed them politically. Thunder can break, writes the poet Okigbo. And when it breaks, the reverberations will not only be heard in Igbo land.

Truth is: the rustle of restless youth in Igbo land, where many folks are already alienated, is a mirror of Buhari’s Nigeria. It spreading like cancer to other regions. It was bad before Buhari was elected. But it is now exponentially worse since he arrived, riding with his four horsemen of the apocalypse.

The Igbo do not want to be president anymore
Igbo 2023 Presidency
By Obi Nwakanma

Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Psalmistproject: 5:56pm On Oct 09, 2021
Sirjamo:
I support the governors, on the condition that the PDP zone it to the SE first.


PDP will never, not in 600 years, and if PDP won't reward their 24 years of support, is it APC that they never support for one minute that will reward them.


South East hate APC so much that they are cheering ipob terrorists, just to destroy Buhari government.


South East hate APC so much that they are killing their own people to make the party look incompetent.



I AM DONE TALKING

It doesn't matter what the people wants what matters is the people with more resources to rig in their preferred candidate. So yea APC or PDP the people don't care anymore.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 6:03pm On Oct 09, 2021
jneutron4000:
You have nothing to offer us, the only thing you have to offer the North is your support against us. What you gain in living in Yoruba land is far greater than what you gain in even living in your own land unless you are not honest with yourself
We leave all over nigeria we have far more investment property in the north than south west

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by FuckOsuPigs: 6:03pm On Oct 09, 2021
Rugaria:
The North has been there for ten years now. That is if you add Yaraduas 2 years to Buhari 6 locust years. By the time Buhari is through, the North would have been there for 12 years! The North has had the vice presidency for 16 years under Nomadi Sambo and Atiku Abubakar. The South West has had the presidency for 8 solid years with Obasanjo and now chasing another 8 solid years with the vice presidency. We are not talking of over 4 decades of military dictatorship by these wayward clans! It's the turn of the east! Simple as that. If you guys can't stand an igboman as your president, fine, Then let my people go... But If any of you insists that the Igbo must be part of Nigeria and yet should Not be allowed to head the country, then you are pulling the tiger by the tail. It will bite.. it will bite very very very madly..

How old are you?

What you put up there is nothing but a basket full of twaddle. Where is this entitlement mentality coming from? You want to become president, yet you are in your silo in SE playing regional politics. You think that's how it works? Who among your leaders there can you point to who has the national reach and clout to mobilize support for south east? NONE!

Stop throwing tantrums like a toddler who has just been dispossessed of his favourite toy.

Wake up from your daydream.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by frankson1(m): 6:10pm On Oct 09, 2021
Sirjamo:
I support the governors, on the condition that the PDP zone it to the SE first.


PDP will never, not in 600 years, and if PDP won't reward their 24 years of support, is it APC that they never support for one minute that will reward them.


South East hate APC so much that they are cheering ipob terrorists, just to destroy Buhari government.


South East hate APC so much that they are killing their own people to make the party look incompetent.



I AM DONE TALKING




He even said "all political parties" should zone their presidential candidate to SE. The governor was really high on something stronger than him.

How can a Fulani party zone It to SE or are they ready to become Fulani??

He should call on the PDP to hand it over to them.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Kyase(m): 6:20pm On Oct 09, 2021
omoharry:
Oga ,there is not need to preach ..Yes the presidential ticket should go to the east but these crop of leaders (especially the present Governors ) are complete nuisance and a turn in the flesh to Thier own people . Who want to give these jokes the presidential ticket, when they cannot secure Thier various state? And are too having to use the lives of Thier own citizens as pawn In Thier game of Chest . Non of them in that picture deserve to be president . They are recently the new bride of the Fulanis . If they really want power to come to the East, then they must look for a credible and strong Igbo candidate, that has a good tract record .They should all endorse and campaign for him .Then we will know they are ready .But if they are talking about Thier own ambition, then they are jokers .

That’s the problem every region is supporting their leaders even bad or good for the presidency but here you are castigating your own to prove what, I don’t know
What’s your game plan you want the ticket but you won’t support those that are capable of securing the ticket
Beebeeooh what’s happening down there
Me I’m even confuse
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 6:25pm On Oct 09, 2021
jneutron4000:
You have nothing to offer us, the only thing you have to offer the North is your support against us. What you gain in living in Yoruba land is far greater than what you gain in even living in your own land unless you are not honest with yourself

We are traders,the only thing ndigbo gain in your Yoruba land;
availability of your sea port ;managed by the Fulanis,the last road leading to your seaport was named after a Fulani man (meaning theve, dipped there Koran inside your ocean)
If Nigeria was a viable country;
Dredge River Niger for Ndi-Igbo ,watch them migrate out of your Lagos in droves.
Bye.

Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by walefresh3(m): 6:25pm On Oct 09, 2021
afroniger:



https://tribuneonlineng.com/south-east-governors-demand-2023-presidency/
u guys are not serious..How many of u visit ur greatest Challenger in UK.. u do not believe in the west... That's why u are scared to contest against them.. God can shame u all and later give the presidency to South West....
If south east trull7 need this presidency.. they should first work on southern unity... show more commitment on southern mandates ... involve ss governors in all thier plans and then take ur graviance sw governors . from there.. u altogether meet tinubu and negotiate with him...after that all southern governors we mobilize behind one candidate and present him to thier northern cacus...for further negotiation...
1) I stand on southern mandate... That stated all presidential aspirants from both major party should come from south...

2) I am in support that , se should produce the nest president...

3) fiscal federalism it's only way that can fast track great development..

Pls my brothers from the south... Let's work for the betterment of all Nigerians...
Let's fight fro true federalism....
Se leaders should go and meet tinubu... If truly they are not enemy to the Yoruba and southern saboteur...
What we are doing here it's not the way forward...
Some are paid to create disunity thread .pls don't fall for it..
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by joefelin2345: 6:29pm On Oct 09, 2021
Danjikanbauchi:
they supported Obasanjo from SW and Jonathan from SS. What is wrong if the two region support them too now. Let there be justice and equity.
They supported PDP you mean? SW could have preferred its own man Falaye but SE together with SS & the North chose Obj who they thought they could manipulate. So SW has the option of contesting the Presidency if it so desired. After all Alex Ekweme & Rimi did the same during Obj regime.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by cybersoldiers: 6:29pm On Oct 09, 2021
seunmsg:


President Bola Ahmed Tinubu will ensure the above is done. It is on record that he was the first civilian governor to appoint Igbos as commissioners in Lagos state. He will integrate the south east into the mainstream of national politics and make a deal with Nnamdi Kanu to renounce Biafra and join the Federal executive council as minister of national unity and integration.

Sorry your YorubaNistan Tinubu aka bullion van can't be President of Nigeria.

If you people try to force it, he'll end up like Abiola

Bookmark this post for your reference.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Tomek09(m): 6:33pm On Oct 09, 2021
SE Presidency is a mirage.
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by princemartinsG(m): 6:33pm On Oct 09, 2021
Its one thing for it to be the turn of the East.

Its another thing for the East to have capable, competent candidate with a national charisma



Rugaria:
The North has been there for ten years now. That is if you add Yaraduas 2 years to Buhari 6 locust years. By the time Buhari is through, the North would have been there for 12 years! The North has had the vice presidency for 16 years under Nomadi Sambo and Atiku Abubakar. The South West has had the presidency for 8 solid years with Obasanjo and now chasing another 8 solid years with the vice presidency. We are not talking of over 4 decades of military dictatorship by these wayward clans! It's the turn of the east! Simple as that. If you guys can't stand an igboman as your president, fine, Then let my people go... But If any of you insists that the Igbo must be part of Nigeria and yet should Not be allowed to head the country, then you are pulling the tiger by the tail. It will bite.. it will bite very very very madly..
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by walefresh3(m): 6:38pm On Oct 09, 2021
cybersoldiers:


Sorry your YorubaNistan Tinubu aka bullion van can't be President of Nigeria.

If you people try to force it, he'll end up like Abiola

Bookmark this post for your reference.
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He can't end like abiola.. it's a different ball game now...
Se leaders must mobilize themselves to go and meet sw for negotiation if truly them want apc presidential post....if not, I Will not advice sw to jettition thier ambition in producing not president...
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by chaloskyx: 6:41pm On Oct 09, 2021
WAIT FIRST LET ME UNDERSTAND ONE THING WHEN IT COMES TO IPOB REFERENDUM AND SUCESSION YOU DISOWN YOUR PEOPLE AND LET THEM BE KILLED AND MANIPULATED BY THE FG. THEN WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS YOU RALLY ROUND THEM CAMPAINING FOR THEIR SUPPOR TO PICK A POLITICIAN FROM THE SE. SE POLITICIANS LIKE UNLE JOE WHO LOOK AT THEIR PEOPLE MARGINALISED AND SUPPORT THE FG IN DOING SO THEN WHEN IT COMES TO VOTES YOU RECOGNISE US AS YOU PEOPLE YOU ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE ALL OF YOU SE POLITICIANS NEED TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON NO ONE IS VOTING FOR ANY NIGERIAN SE POLITICIANS YOU ARE ALL BAD LEADERS
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by iretinyeee(f): 6:43pm On Oct 09, 2021
Useless people keep deceiving urselves
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Yuslaw2438: 6:47pm On Oct 09, 2021
afroniger:



https://tribuneonlineng.com/south-east-governors-demand-2023-presidency/


It seem that this people are better of in trading than politics you better focus ur mind on area of ur profession how can u just made pronouncement that all parties should endorse Igbos even when Obasanjo became president Alex Ekwe still compete with him for primary election before he lost out not that they macro zone the president to southwest despite the fact that there s anger in Southwest because our Son won presidential election and Aboki with collaboration of igboman annulled the election and North trying to persuade Southwest that's why they ensure that OBJ became the President
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Omonigho1976: 6:48pm On Oct 09, 2021
9jah:
Ndi-Igbo need restructuring of Nigeria; not Presidency (Another Elite rubber stamp for the Fulani cabals)

– Oshiomhole
It is more so because the Igbo are the spine of this federation. If you break the spine of the nation, it becomes crippled.

When you go up and down Nigeria, the Igbo constitute the most active economic and cultural force that welds Nigeria.


These people are driven by an independent and free spirit, whom anthropologists have described as “freedom-loving people.”

The real character of the Igbo has very often been mistaken by those who do not understand them, or who hardly study them. They accuse the Igbo of extreme “individualism.” That is a false misreading. The Igbo are driven by what I call the “liberty-impulse.”


That is what their adversaries mistake for “individualism.” There are two connected domains or spaces of the self in the Igbo psyche: there is the “onwe m” – the single autonomous, self-acting agent, and there is “Onwe anyi” – the idea of the “collective self.”

The idea of the “onwe” – self, has roots in the Igbo word, “inwe” – to own. In other words, the “self” in the Igbo conscious articulation of that hermeneutic is an autonomous condition, which cannot be intruded upon by any external force.


The “collective selves” – Onwe anyi – contains a unity of these seamless conditions of autonomous beingness. That is why nobody can claim to speak for the Igbo with absolute authority.

Every Igbo is defined by self-interest which must be fully acknowledged within the larger interest. The Igbo are liberated culturally from the fear of an overwhelming power or authority since traditionally, every Igbo is an authority unto himself/herself.

The Igbo self is the guide to any moral or material aspirations. The Igbo do not make kings. They have consistently told this to the world: “Igbo Enwegh Eze.” The Igbo make no kings. The Igbo have no King.

In spite of some pretenders today who call themselves “Royal Majesties” and “Royal Highnesses,” (a rather witty fellow did add “royal high arses,”) who dress and appear in all kinds of ridiculous masquerade costumes in public, with certificates signed by Local government chairmen making them “Igwe’ or “Eze” or some such aberration over Igbo “Autonomous Communities,” the true Igbo continue to maintain their self-aware and autonomous, and often inviolate independence.

They amuse themselves occasionally by the royal theater of these pseudo-monarchies. But that is all there is to it. Theatre. To the Igbo “Chukwu Wu Eze Ndi Igbo” – only God is King of the Igbo. No human is king to the Igbo. And sometimes, they say, “Oha Wu Eze.” When Igbo people gather, they constitute the Igbo sovereign.

This probably has roots in that very republican idea often mistakenly attributed to the Athenians; or in that Latin conception of people’s power: “Vox Populi, Vox Dei.” The voice of the People is the voice of God.

The Igbo have always known these, and had organized the idea of the Republic, thousands of years before Solon, the founding father of the Athenian state returned to Athens and introduced this system of government, which he learnt from the Egyptians as the practice of a more ancient civilization by people who lived in the lands heading South, towards the rise of the sun in the Atlantean direction.

I have outlined all these to assert two primary conclusions: one, those who have mistaken Igbo sense of freedom and the impulse of liberty for extreme individualism misjudge Igbo capacity for collective action. To the Igbo, the individual self (onwe m) is “primary” but the collective (onwe anyi), once fully constituted, is “prior.”

This Igbo theory and practice of the complimentary selves is what often confuses Igbo adversaries. The individual self very frequently is subsumed into the collective self, after a long, tedious, repetitive, and sometimes mind-twisting process of disputation that often leaves people unfamiliar with Igbo consensus-building impatient and dispirited.

The Igbo are slow to agree on anything and argue over everything under the sun. For every topic, if there are one thousand Igbo in a room, there is bound to be one thousand points of difference and opinions on the same issue.

But that is where people often misunderstand the Igbo. That is where the strength of the Igbo lie. It is that process that allows the Igbo to embark on the difficult process of introspection and self-questioning in order to find a common ground towards collective action.

The Igbo is free to disagree with the rest of the Igbo. But once an agreement is reached in what the Igbo call, “Ikwe ko Rita,” which is by inclusive discussions and negotiations that are tedious and diplomatic, the true Igbo is bound by such agreements.

Once the Igbo raises the call, “Igbo Kwenu! Kwe Zuonu!” through an appointed spokesman who articulates the points of agreement, every Igbo irrespective of title or social standing, becomes bound to the collective will and its objective.

It is here that individual interest becomes inferior to collective interest. It is left then to each household of the Igbo to enforce the Igbo compact, at the risk of ex-communication, at the very least. This is the Igbo way.

Thus far, the general mood in Igbo land is disinterest in the affairs of Nigeria. Every Igbo household accepts this. A vast number of the Igbo are disaffected and alienated from Nigeria, and those Igbo middlemen who go about claiming to speak for the Igbo must tell the Nigerian authorities the truth.

Inside Igbo land today, a debate is raging about the future of the Igbo in Nigeria, and many of these folks have no control over it. They must therefore be careful in laying it all out there because this mood is new and dangerous.

It has been said that some folks met recently in Owerri to “chart the course for an Igbo presidency.” But do the Igbo want the presidency? Clearly, some do. Some don’t. Listen to a man like Mr. Achike Udenwa, for instance, former governor of Imo state.

In his interview recently in the Sun Newspaper. He very clearly said the Igbo are not interested in the presidency. They want a restructuring of Nigeria first. What kind of president would it be, in the current political system? Clearly, two main factions have emerged in Igbo land today as I feared they would: there is the militant separatist movement, whose main arrowhead today is the IPOB.

They are driving a very youthful militant uprising which is creating a political storm in the old East. This neo-Biafra movement rests squarely on unsettled grievances; it began to assume new militant dimensions because of the failed politics of Muhammadu Buhari whose policies and doctrine of nepotism drove a permanent wedge with long-suffering Igbo youth.

The serial acts of misgovernance by this administration only added lint to the fire. There are the “One Nigerianists” – who, though disenchanted with Nigeria, do not see separation as much of a political choice.

Their argument is quite simple: Nigeria is a work in progress; Buhari’s time will come and go; the Igbo have invested too much in Nigeria to allow it to perish; it is therefore in the long term strategic interest of the Igbo and other Nigerian ethnicities to work together and revamp Nigeria to fulfill the terms of its founding as Africa’s super-state.

The separatists think the One-Nigerianists “romantic day-dreamers” who do not yet see how unworkable a contraption Nigeria is, and has become.

What is currently playing out in the East is the exact scenario in Ireland during the era of the troubles, leading to the 1915 Easter Massacres, captured in W.B. Yeats poem, “Easter, 1915,” and leading therefrom to the growth of the armed militancy of the Irish Republican Army against the Unionists.

The IPOB is increasingly like the IRA and may someday, arrive at its organizational network if it continues to evolve, and if its leadership grows the organizational skills and intellectual depth, and the fierce nationalist zeal of the founders of the Irish Republican Army.

The downside of course is that soon, there may be the equivalent of the “troubles” in Igbo land and Nigeria – with all the assassinations, tortures, bombings, and executions that characterized the Irish militant resistance. These things happen and echo each other.

Taking all these into view, what must the Igbo and Nigeria, in general, do now, before it all goes out of hand? That is the question, and I do not know the answer. The little inkling I have is, Igbo youth, like many of their colleagues in Nigeria are frustrated by the Nigerian state.

They have no outlets for self-expression. They have no hopes. They are materially poor. Young folk, many at 35 are still unsettled, without prospects, without income; without companionable relationships, and thus restless.

This is especially so among the Igbo with the highest unemployment rate among a highly educated and skilled population. This is what is driving the separatists – a desire to be free of the burden called “Nigeria.”

These young men, liberated from the intimidations of high authority, and constructed along the principles of self-determination, inside the concept of “onwem” and “onwe anyi” are taking their destiny into their hands.

They have increasingly no regard for their “elders” whom they think, rightly or wrongly, as the core of the “One-Nigerianists” that have betrayed them politically. Thunder can break, writes the poet Okigbo. And when it breaks, the reverberations will not only be heard in Igbo land.

Truth is: the rustle of restless youth in Igbo land, where many folks are already alienated, is a mirror of Buhari’s Nigeria. It spreading like cancer to other regions. It was bad before Buhari was elected. But it is now exponentially worse since he arrived, riding with his four horsemen of the apocalypse.

The Igbo do not want to be president anymore
Igbo 2023 Presidency
By Obi Nwakanma


Na only u sidon type this epistle Buhari talk am true true o say Nigerian youths are.....
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Omonigho1976: 6:51pm On Oct 09, 2021
walefresh3:
u guys are not serious..How many of u visit ur greatest Challenger in UK.. u do not believe in the west... That's why u are scared to contest against them.. God can shame u all and later give the presidency to South West....
If south east trull7 need this presidency.. they should first work on southern unity... show more commitment on southern mandates ... involve ss governors in all thier plans and then take ur graviance sw governors . from there.. u altogether meet tinubu and negotiate with him...after that all southern governors we mobilize behind one candidate and present him to thier northern cacus...for further negotiation...
1) I stand on southern mandate... That stated all presidential aspirants from both major party should come from south...

2) I am in support that , se should produce the nest president...

3) fiscal federalism it's only way that can fast track great development..

Pls my brothers from the south... Let's work for the betterment of all Nigerians...
Let's fight fro true federalism....
Se leaders should go and meet tinubu... If truly they are not enemy to the Yoruba and southern saboteur...
What we are doing here it's not the way forward...
Some are paid to create disunity thread .pls don't fall for it..
You said it all bro!!!
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by jneutron4000: 6:55pm On Oct 09, 2021
9jah:


We are traders,the only thing ndigbo gain in your Yoruba land;
availability of your sea port ;managed by the Fulanis,the last road leading to your seaport was named after a Fulani man (meaning theve, dipped there Koran inside your ocean)
If Nigeria was a viable country;
Dredge River Niger for Ndi-Igbo ,watch them migrate out of your Lagos in droves.
Bye.
Who do you sell your goods too. Let even put sea ports aside, who do you sell your goods to I ask again. Yoruba is the biggest Ethnic group with purchasing power. For example Fulanis not even the ones in Nigeria only but Fulanis across west Africa have the Kara market in Yoruba land as the market where they sell the most. We shutdown Kara market, their cow business will be massively affected. So you Igbos are in Yoruba land to sell goods and make living primarily.

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Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by Sleekfingers: 7:00pm On Oct 09, 2021
afroniger:



https://tribuneonlineng.com/south-east-governors-demand-2023-presidency/



These people and victim card playing....Is like Nkwobi and chilled beer......
Re: South-East Governors Demand 2023 Presidency by yetunsbay(m): 7:03pm On Oct 09, 2021
mrvitalis:

Oga what are you offering igbos say it ...you people said we should learn politics if sophistication ...we are learning

Why should Igbos leave s VP offered by the north and support tinubu ?
if Una no Sabi play ur cards then na Una knw

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