myname:

am disapoited that even some of u in the room that call urselfs christians will agree that the God u serve is thesame with am idol in Ka'aba called Allah. pic it upon yourself to study the origin of Islam very well n come back to answer this question. THEYU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

Why? this is fanatical. Did you ever see GOD ? and you will never see him until .... Mix up of religion God Or Allah is one. Spend your time wisely.

myname:

am disapoited that even some of u in the room that call urselfs christians will agree that the God u serve is thesame with am idol in Ka'aba called Allah. pic it upon yourself to study the origin of Islam very well n come back to answer this question. THEYU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

Hnd-holder:

Why? this is fanatical. Did you ever see GOD ? and you will never see him until .... Mix up of religion God Or Allah is one. Spend your time wisely.

The funny thing is that I have never seen this kind of fanatical thinking in Muslims in any of my real life and online encounters. It always seems to be a specific kind of Christian that needs to behave like that. Maybe the Crusades are [i]recent [/i]history after all
And it's not the Catholics that behave like that nowadays.

myname:

am disapoited that even some of u in the room that call urselfs christians will agree that the God u serve is thesame with am idol in Ka'aba called Allah. pic it upon yourself to study the origin of Islam very well n come back to answer this question. THEYU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

myname,I believe everyone is entitled to thier opinion. If youve read the posts ahead you would have realised that the tone of your post was uncalled for. We have all decided to discuss maturedly, we donot want to start arguing/fighting on this topic anymore. If some people believe that God and Allah are the same, I think theyre entitled to thier opinions, Just state yours and be open to discussion. Not fanatical criticism and by posting offensively.

The holy KORAN said in [4.171] O followers of the Book!(BIBLE) do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa (JESUS) son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector

God is one in essence. Three in person. In unity. He is one with his word(Jesus Christ) and his Spirit(the Holy Spirit).

am disapoited that even some of u in the room that call urselfs christians will agree that the God u serve is thesame with am idol in Ka'aba called Allah. pic it upon yourself to study the origin of Islam very well n come back to answer this question. THEYU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

@ myname, I can see that you're definitely thirsty for knowledge. I'm not going to chastise you further because you have done that to yourself by exposing how ignorant you were about history.

The Ka'bah is not Allah! The word Ka'bah means a cube. It's a cubic house "rebuilt" by Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) with his first son, Isma'il. This structure has only four walls and no roof.

Yes, before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (and until his Call to Prophethood), there were idolaters in the whole of Arabia peninsular. The center of their worship was the Ka'bah! Allah, in His Majesty, frowned at those unholy practices, so He commanded His Prophet at the time, Abraham, to rebuild the Cube to what it is today! There were many historical miracles behind the Cube (Ka'bah); its building predated Islam as a religion. Let me give you just one example: In the Prophet's year of birth (Year of Elephant), the year had already proven to be a very important one in the history of mankind. Abraha was the ruler of Yemen under the Abyssinian Negus. He intended to make his nation of Yemen the center of attraction and a great place of worship in lieu of Mecca to all Arabs, so he built a magnificent cathedral at Sana'a, capital of Yemen, and decorated it with all known ornaments and caparisons; he set up crosses of gold and silver, and pulpits of ivory and ebony. A man from Kinanah, a tribe similar to Quraysh, went to Sana'a for the deliberate act of defiling the cathedral. He was successful in doing just that, and returned safely to his people, rejoicing! Abraha was so furious that he decided to retaliate by razing the Ka'bah to the ground. That same year, he set out with a large army led by a very big and caparisoned elephant to attack Mecca and destroy Ka'bah. But Abraha and his overwhelming army could not do any harm to the Ka'bah as his army were pelted with brimstones and pebbles from the bottom of the hellfire by the ababil birds -- these birds were especially sent by Allah to attack Abraha and his army in order to save the Ka'bah! The Holy Prophet Muhammed was born at Mecca in Arabia on Monday morning, (August 29, 570 CE) nearly 4,090 years after Noah, 3000 years after Abraham, 2300 years after Moses, 1800 years after David, and 570 years after Jesus! Today, there are no idols in Ka'bah! Prophet Muhammed cleansed the whole Arabian peninsular of idol worshipping by Allah's leave. That was the reason why our dear Prophet was attacked and eventually kicked out of Mecca by the idol worshippers! He opposed them and their false worship, as we oppose the Christian polytheists and their sick idea of trinity! Now, tell me, is it not written in your bible that you must not bow down to a graven image? So, why do you Christian polytheists bow down to that picture (drawing to be exact) of a white European man, as your God? Who is an idol worshipper? Is it the Muslim who bows down to an imageless deity or the polytheistic christian who bows down to a "graven" image? Think well before you open your mouth next time!

For me they are thesame, I call God "Allah" in my language.

For me they are thesame, I call God "Allah" in my language.

The Nigerian Christians are ignorant about the root of their religion. Because we were colonized and forced to speak English by the British (who, by the way, brought their religion to them in Nigeria) they actually think that christianity's beginning was English. The bible was written in Hebrew (old testament) and Greek (new testament -- the over 75% of which was written by the founder of chrsitianity, Saul/Paul). Ask any coptic christian in Egypt what he/she calls our Maker, he/she will tell you that it's called Allah. And just about any Arab christians anywhere in the world, they'll confirm it. Are these Arab christians not christian enough? Methinks, they are better christians than these Nigerian ones who have been sedated by that slave masters' language -- English!

I fully agree with you Ajisafe. Many people are not in touch with tradition anymore. Better they find out the true christian roots.

My God is neither, Hebrew, Greek, English, Hausa,Yoruba or Arabic. He hears me in whatever language I choose to pray to him.
He hears it all! I am not Hebrew or Greek and just because those were the original languages used in the original Bible Texts doesnt mean I have to speak to my God in those languages. Am still okay with a God who hears it ALL!

Thank you o alheri. Abeg tell them . GOD HEARS EVERY LANGUAGE. I don't know what concerns a muslim with Christianity

Tell who?

Amin Sister,

We must know that Allah hears and sees all no matter what language or culture.

As human beings we are so limited in our understanding of God.

There is only ONE God and that's the point. Where most people differ at is having the right understanding of what that one God is. Not the fact that there is only One God.

Prophet Abrahim (PBUH) gave us such a beautiful example of this.
He searched for Allah every where. He took the sun, moon, sky, idols and more to be God. He realized that everything that he took to be God was created by a greater source. He rejected his fathers belief of the idols being God.
He came to the understanding that God was one, the one who created everything and everyone. The one who depends on nothing but the one who everything depends on.


Good to see your post sister, I always enjoy your post.

I hate this thread ! I hate this thread !

Seun where are u.....

some peeps r making me laugh. in my opinion they r the same thing. God in  English and Allah in hausa or arabic language.
God=Oluwa=Chineke=Allah

I think the best to do is to go to heaven and ask whoseover you find as God

They are not but you need to meet them to understand the difference!
Everyone wants heaven but so few wish to visit, even those who accept God is their daddy! Why should a child be unable to visit the dad, except of course the toddler is too young to crawl all the way to the new home of a divorced dad & mum!
Can u meet God or Allh? Yes!
When? Here and Now!
How?
As u fall asleep everyday, until it happens, put your request the best way you like to talk to your father?
Then u are ready for the next step!
Rome was not built in one what, but it got built all right and even rebuilt too!

certainly not.. though they both rely on faith, praise and worship.. followers of one are richer than the other..
while god's people kill with sophisticated weapons, immorality and economic degradation, allah's people simply scream allahu akbar and slit your throat like a chicken.

God and Allah may have similar histories.. both laying claim to creating adam and giving abraham his first woody.. but that is where the similarities end...

No grammar context or language translation can equate God to Allah or vice versa. seems they have been at the center of most of the worlds crisis lately

Get this... there is no trinity.. there is God, there is Jesus and there is teh Holy Spirit.. and they are one in spirit (I mean one in their Vision and mission).. a lot of christians becloud their intelligence by claiming what God did not say. When John Baptized Jesus, God looked down and was pleased and the Holy spirit descended like a dove on Jesus...

Unless he has a psychotic schitzo with a split personality, i do not think he would go through such dramatic lengths to prove he really was pleased with Jesus.

Are you english? Well I am not, I just happened to be able to speak the language.

Would it be fair to use the christians interpretation to the english word "God" ?, Is the language of the founder of christianity English? Does he have the authourity to change the original meaning of a word to suit his preachings?

In Arabic the word Allah is used to denote the word "Al-Rab" which directly qualifies to the english word God, from arabic linguistics.

In Hebrew "Yahweh" which happens to be the language spoken by the Jews and the main language of the bible, do they used the word "Yahweh" to denote the english word "God"?

God to an english man does not go beyound.
1. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
2. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

Simple as that, no complexity of association by christians, or non-association by Muslims. Period. Non of you are english, period, and from the arabic denotation of Allah being "Al-Rab" equates to the meaning given by the English man.

Does it speak the same for the christians? Was "Yahweh" actually the word been used, in the bible and traslates to the English word for God today? I leave it to you to research that.

English makes it very simple. Allah denotes God, as understood by the non believing English man.

Allah is one of the prophets of God like Jesus is... but as a christian, Jesus is God's only begotten son who gave is life for remision of our sins.

What? Allah is God's name. Allah is the name of the only God. The Holy Name of GOD Almighty was indeed "Allah" in the original Bible.
It is also interesting to notice that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic. Thus the God of Islam, Allah, is indeed the God of Christianity.

Not again!

chrisd:

What? Allah is God's name. Allah is the name of the only God. The Holy Name of GOD Almighty was indeed "Allah" in the original Bible.
It is also interesting to notice that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic. Thus the God of Islam, Allah, is indeed the God of Christianity.

Hugh?

Yep, me again. . Strange but true.

chrisd:

Yep, me again. . Strange but true.

TRUE? I dont think so.

YOUR OPINION? Youre entitled to it.

If speaking about the creator of heaven and earth, Yes! people call Him different names one of which is Allah.

If speaking about the revelation to Mohammed, then many Christians will find it difficult to reconcile the two;- God and Allah

ok. ok. ok. i'm wrong and you're right, but come to think of it... why would God give different religion the option to worship and interpret/translate his word and comandment. Can someone answer that...?

ok. ok. ok. i'm wrong and you're right, but come to think of it... why would God give different religion the option to worship and interpret/translate his word and comandment. Can someone answer that...?

God did not give different religion the option to worship and interpret/translate his word and comandment. But people have found God, the same God in different ways. There are lots of ways towards God.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12012006/325/345-pilgrims-killed-saudi-haj-crush.html

why does this keep happening?

codec, are you sure you're on the right thread?

chrisd:

God did not give different religion the option to worship and interpret/translate his word and comandment. But people have found God, the same God in different ways. There are lots of ways towards God.

Your opinion again again my dear chrisd. The bible says one way and that is JESUS.

alheri:

Your opinion again again my dear chrisd. The bible says one way and that is JESUS.

Which is, of course, also only your opinion