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This is so important. I am of the opinion that every Igbo person who has seen this post and its truth should as a matter of importance start making contact by joining some of these Opobo and Bonny Facebook groups and start working on nullifying the evil seeds Ijaw people are planting in their minds. From the evidence that we have seen from this post, we may have to even start working on Brass groups too. It is evident that what the Ijaws are to southern Nigeria is what the Fulanis are to the north - bandit tribes that have been displacing peace-living aborigines. I also suggest that we Ndigbo start mapping out some practical ways of fully reconnecting with these our kith and kin in the coast and other peripheral areas. Even if it requires funding, I am prepared to make a donation for those willing to visit Opobo and Bonny if there is a concrete plan of action on ground.

DitariDisciple2:


Iv forwarded this your comment to all Ijaw groups I belong, and iv even asked the people to foward it to all Ijaws.
Iv forwarded it to the Ijaw Youth Council group IYC.
The 3rd highest Ijaw socia-cultural organizations.
Iv forwarded it to the 2nd highest Ijaw socia-cultural organizations, Lovers of Ijaw Nation Organization LINO group
Iv forwarded it to Ijaw Republic group.
Iv forwarded it to Ijaw matters group.
Iv forwarded it to Izon Bibi group.
Iv forwarded it to Commissioner of Ijaw National Affairs.
Iv forwarded it to Ijaw National Congress President the same positions with Ohanaeze Ndigbo and Afenifere President.
Iv forwarded it everywhere nd asked them all to act.
Iv forwarded it to IYC President and his excos differently.
Iv forwarded it to INC excos.
Iv forwarded it to LINO excos.
Iv forwarded it different Ijaw Commissioners.
Iv forwarded it to the deputy Governor of Delta state.
The Ijaw man.

God be my witness on all these.
Now tell me who is smarter.

ebufa:





Leave nairaland idle banter, Igbo get people! all sorts of people for that matter! The day Ijaws make the error of attacking Igbos, we will cure their madness wella.........let ijaw braggadocio remain online o! Igbos that have taken on almajiris in kano and bested them,fought all Nigerians with one arm tied behind our backs by Great Britain for a bloody 30 months civil war, taken on fulani herdsmen and their army accomplices since January and forced a stalemate!................Igbos are not itshekiris o,it will end in bitter tears for ijaw people.

RobbStark:


Noise as always.
Continue chest beating.
We don't talk much, we act.
Ask Kanu, when he ran away from the army that came, where was he all that while before he surfaced in Israel.
The Ijaws are like a God to you people

SlayerForever:
Igboid ị pụtakwa ula. Ụtụtụ ọma.

Come and write this Bonny/Opobo piece please.

Pass 11 ị putago?

Bkayy, 9Pluto, Ekealterego, Vintagepipes, OfoIgbo etc etc etc etc etc chi efogo kwanu.

9Pluto:


Exactly, those are the salient facts we need to point out. They are claiming Niger Delta now to confuse more gullible people.

We need to bring out and promote Boro's original map.

Igboid:


Ututuoma.
Not sure I can do good justice to it.
But I can try.

What exactly do we want to have in this .

Take the readers through a concise but engaging and intriguing journey through the early history of Bonny and Opobo inhabitation, taking note of the ethnic identity of the early/first settlers, citing historical documents where necessary to back it up.

Be as vague as possible in definning Bonny and Opobo current political ethnicity, but being empathic in drumming down the fact that the ancestors of modern Bonny and Opobo were the KINGS and EARLY SETTLERS of those Islands and not just descendants of the slaves.

People on internet hate long articles, so article has to avoid being too voluminous?

Should article try to cite Ijaw distorted versions of Opobo and Bonny history before refuting them?

Maybe to avoid losing vital information while trying to avoid being too long, article can be broken down in parts.

Like Part 1 tailored specifically to present our case on Bonny and Opobo

Part 2, measured to debunk Alagoa and other Ijaw expansionists


Part 3, looking at current Opobo and Bonny identity and a detailed chronicle of Ijaw nationalists deliberate attempt at commiting cultural genocide in Opobo and Bonny .


I'm just brainstorming here.article MUST not be written by me , but I can try.

9Pluto:

Well said bro. However, I think the first article should not mention the controversies for a start.

It should connect history to the immediate past and then the present realities(as per language and culture).

Articles that address the controversies can come later.

There may also be need to form a whatsapp group to take certain conversations of here.

JANK23H:
RobbStark have you been able to meet with that coconut guy?

Would have been great if you did a video one of these days.Let the people speak for themselves.

Igboid:


So you agree on breaking the history down to parts then.

Part 1 should be all about Bonny and Opobo early history and their early settlers.
The list of kings, the intrigues and power tussle amongst them.
The evolution of early Bonny from the Okpara bu isi system of it's early settlers to adoption of the "Wari" war house system of the riverine tribes around them.


What do you think about the above?

RobbStark:


Effort in futility...

Igboid:


So you agree on breaking the history down to parts then.

Part 1 should be all about Bonny and Opobo early history and their early settlers.
The list of kings, the intrigues and power tussle amongst them.
The evolution of early Bonny from the Okpara bu isi system of it's early settlers to adoption of the "Wari" war house system of the riverine tribes around them.


What do you think about the above?

RobbStark:


Effort in futility...

9Pluto:


Like you said the article should not be unnecessarily long.
It should solely focus on the ibani igbo historical account of Bonny.
Early settlers at okuloma, Kings, natives, slaves (showing they were igbos of Ibani stock). Tradition, culture, health care (the dibias) the controversies that lead to the exit of Jaja. Article must make it know that a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

Basically the person should review Crow's work especially from chapter 10 downwards.

Igboid:


Then stop panicking

Let me tell you an example of effort in futility.

The useless attempt to implant the dead Kalabari language called Ibani in Opobo and Bonny.
That's an example of an exercise in futility.

It has been on since 1990s and now a yearly jamboree and avenue for funds embezzlement for Opobo and Bonny politicians.
I bet they would be earmarking huge state funds for it.
And after the whole jamboree, they all go back home to speak their beautiful Igbo language with their wives and children, probably mocking you desperate Bayelsans in their bedrooms.

Igboid:


Okay, u think I can do this.
When I'm done I will post it here to be vetted by all before taking it to all Igbo Facebook platforms and those of Opobo and Bonny.

Igboid:


Then stop panicking

Let me tell you an example of effort in futility.

The useless attempt to implant the dead Kalabari language called Ibani in Opobo and Bonny.
That's an example of an exercise in futility.

It has been on since 1990s and now a yearly jamboree and avenue for funds embezzlement for Opobo and Bonny politicians.
I bet they would be earmarking huge state funds for it.
And after the whole jamboree, they all go back home to speak their beautiful Igbo language with their wives and children, probably mocking you desperate Bayelsans in their bedrooms.

JANK23H:

I just shake my head reading their comments.The desperation is shameful really.

Why not visit those places first,interact with the people on a one-on-one basis.

Their self esteem in Nigeria has been bashed really.They'll clutch at anything to get it back.

It's pitiful!

Igboid:


Ututuoma.
Not sure I can do good justice to it.
But I can try.

What exactly do we want to have in this .

Take the readers through a concise but engaging and intriguing journey through the early history of Bonny and Opobo inhabitation, taking note of the ethnic identity of the early/first settlers, citing historical documents where necessary to back it up.

Be as vague as possible in definning Bonny and Opobo current political ethnicity, but being empathic in drumming down the fact that the ancestors of modern Bonny and Opobo were the KINGS and EARLY SETTLERS of those Islands and not just descendants of the slaves.

People on internet hate long articles, so article has to avoid being too voluminous?

Should article try to cite Ijaw distorted versions of Opobo and Bonny history before refuting them?

Maybe to avoid losing vital information while trying to avoid being too long, article can be broken down in parts.

Like Part 1 tailored specifically to present our case on Bonny and Opobo

Part 2, measured to debunk Alagoa and other Ijaw expansionists


Part 3, looking at current Opobo and Bonny identity and a detailed chronicle of Ijaw nationalists deliberate attempt at commiting cultural genocide in Opobo and Bonny .


I'm just brainstorming here.article MUST not be written by me , but I can try.

JANK23H:

But I thought at some time in the life of Nairaland you said Kalabaris are Igbos,so also are Okrika.All these were done to reduce the presence of Ijaws in the costal area.

Are they now Ijaws?

RobbStark:


This their desperate attempt at claiming Opobo n bonny started the moment Buhari said they are like a dot in a circle.
Go thro the timeline, you will notice that.
Don't worry brother, their noise ends in this forum, no be today dem start to claim lands.
No where e reach.
After all they yet to see anyone in this forum who claims to be Ibo at the same time from Opobo or Bonny

9Pluto:


I would suggest a follow up group be created outsidea here. Where you can post the article for review and other necessary follow ups.

Igboid:


Slayerforever already created a group, but I was slow to join.
I have been on this forum for so long because I always avoided joining forums created outside here.
Many of such forums end up infiltrated by Igbophobes and identities of members and their Monikers made public here.
We have lost many strong Igbo voices to such. The one that pained me most was that of a certain Anioma son around 2012 or so.

Maybe I should make an exception this time around.
I don't even access to the email I used to open this Moniker anymore.

sinteiking:
I have been following this thread and I have learned quite a lot from both sides but what I can say is that I have visited both Opobo and Bonny and the local folks there believes they are Ijaws by ethnicity.

Opobians believes they are of the Ijaw ethnic descent Even as much as there is a dual language in use in Opobo.

Opobians speaks both their mother tongue(Ibani Ijaw) and broken Igbo or pidgin Igbo.

Opobian culture is similar to other Eastern Ijaws such as the Kalahari's, Okirika, Bonny and Nembe sub groups.

To end this debate, it is necessary to identify what ethnic groups the local folks identify themselves with.

The Opobian king has already identified him and his Subjects as Ijaw people, the local folks identify themselves as Ijaw people and they associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups.

If Opobians and Bonny people has identified themselves as Ijaw, I see no reason why most persons will come online and try to attach them to any other groups.

Bonny and Opobians was not force to associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups, they associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups because they feel they are connected and are part of the larger Ijaw ethnic group

Now, if Bonny and Opobians believe or feel they are Igbos, they would have identified themselves with the larger Igbo ethnic group or associate themselves with Igbo social cultural groups.

I think all this debate on Bonny and Opobo would best be solved of the debaters can venture into this places and interview the locals on ground and see things for themselves.

The best people who can identify the real ethnicity of Bonny and Opobo people are the local folks of Opobo and Bonny.

sinteiking:
I have been following this thread and I have learned quite a lot from both sides but what I can say is that I have visited both Opobo and Bonny and the local folks there believes they are Ijaws by ethnicity.

Opobians believes they are of the Ijaw ethnic descent Even as much as there is a dual language in use in Opobo.

Opobians speaks both their mother tongue(Ibani Ijaw) and broken Igbo or pidgin Igbo.

Opobian culture is similar to other Eastern Ijaws such as the Kalahari's, Okirika, Bonny and Nembe sub groups.

To end this debate, it is necessary to identify what ethnic groups the local folks identify themselves with.

The Opobian king has already identified him and his Subjects as Ijaw people, the local folks identify themselves as Ijaw people and they associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups.

If Opobians and Bonny people has identified themselves as Ijaw, I see no reason why most persons will come online and try to attach them to any other groups.

Bonny and Opobians was not force to associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups, they associate themselves with Ijaw social cultural groups because they feel they are connected and are part of the larger Ijaw ethnic group

Now, if Bonny and Opobians believe or feel they are Igbos, they would have identified themselves with the larger Igbo ethnic group or associate themselves with Igbo social cultural groups.

I think all this debate on Bonny and Opobo would best be solved of the debaters can venture into this places and interview the locals on ground and see things for themselves.

The best people who can identify the real ethnicity of Bonny and Opobo people are the local folks of Opobo and Bonny.

Igboid:


Slayerforever already created a group, but I was slow to join.
I have been on this forum for so long because I always avoided joining forums created outside here.
Many of such forums end up infiltrated by Igbophobes and identities of members and their Monikers made public here.
We have lost many strong Igbo voices to such. The one that pained me most was that of a certain Anioma son around 2012 or so.

Maybe I should make an exception this time around.
I don't even access to the email I used to open this Moniker anymore.

Igboid:


Opobo and Bonny associate with Ijaw because Ijaw as we know it today is a political franchise, anyone in the riverine terrain can join.
Even Edoid speakers like Epie/Atissa, Engenni, Udekeme, etc all identify as Ijaws today even though they continue to speak their native Edoid language.
They understand Ijaw to be a political franchise.

The Ibibiod groups who are recently trying to form an independent United group of the own, which includes the Abua, Odual, Ogbia, etc also speak their Ibibiod language at home.
They all understand that Ijaw is a political franchise for easy access of oil contract deals and other lucrative dealings with oil companies and the FG.
Ijaw is not making any effort to surplant the native non Ijoid language of these groups.


But in case of Opobo and Bonny, because they are Igboid, Ijaws are not comfortable with just the political franchise tag, they want a cultural suicide. They consider the Igbo a soft target. Hoping to rally on the prevalent Igbophobic sentiments prevalent in the region.

They want Bonny and Opobo language replaced outrightly.
To this aim, historical distortions have been made by Alagoa and perpetuated for decades unchallenged and regrettably by the Igbo Academia, so much that they have started taking the form of the truth.
The Bonny and Opobo people are being Hoodwinked into believing that their Igbo language was an alien language, while Kalabari language was their old language.

Our point is that if Bonny and Opobo people are going to Change their Igbo language to Kalabari language, let them atleast do so knowing the truth that their ancestors always spoke Igbo and were Igbos.
Let them know that their Igbo language didn't come to them through Igbo slaves but through their Kings and their first ancestors.

Let their decision to throw away their Igbo language be that of an INFORMED decision, and not a manipulated one that it currently is.

This thread is not about making Bonny and Opobo people accept Igbo.
It's about correcting historical distortions that demonized the Igbo language in Bonny and Opobo,by presenting it as a language of slaves, when all historical facts shows that the early founders of Bonny and Opobo not only were Igbo speakers, but identified themselves as a people of Igbo descent.

This is the meat of this thread.

I hope you understand better now!

SlayerForever:



My brother it's not easy. Many people ran away from joining because they were scared their identities would be made public. I can't blame them at all. Some people on this forum are despicable. Me I have sacrificed myself already. Make it public if you want . After all I'll be interacting with people one or one from next year whether I like it or not.

The alternative is a WhatsApp group. I can create an Igwebuike WhatsApp group immediately for better coordination outside here, then add interested persons. There people can be free to talk while protecting their identities

Do I go on?

9Pluto:


I have been here for a while too but mostly passively. It think it should be possible to vet people's identity and certify they are who they claim they are. For example when you request to join, you can be asked to post a particular phrase on a thread with your nairaland profile...

9Pluto:


I support you go on. Whatsapp or telegram.
You can use this to verify identity. If certified you can add them to the group.
Let them first connect to you personally, then they would be asked to post a particular phrase on a thread with your nairaland profile...