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Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by GetMeRight: 3:04pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Bearfruit: Who wrote that section again? |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by MisterKennedy(m): 3:15pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
kingxsamz: Hmmm |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by MisterKennedy(m): 3:19pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
TinubuGoQuench: Hi dear |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Bearfruit(f): 3:33pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Mock on GetMeRight: |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 5:23pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
GumGum:By what or whose standard do you weigh one sin against another? |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 5:26pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
obailala:Mr.A had 5 years - a probation period still existed, he thought, but no such guarantee in fact comes with any sin to anyone really - to repent before his death, but be never did. Mr.B didn't have 5 years to repent. They both hit the ground, dead, at the same time though. There is more to the repentance issue but this here is to make it as simple as can be for this discussion really. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 5:35pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
profmallor:If you were yourself a Christian, you would know not to consult the Old Covenant Law of Moses where Christianity is concerned. Those who are called by Jesus Christ are called, not according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, which is instead an agreement between God and those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, as Law in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant agreement between God and individuals , Law in the Kingdom of God, gave to His followers about 100 laws that clearly define sin for all to live by. Also,it is against God aka sin to add laws to, change existing laws or remove laws from God's Law - No man has authority to usurp God's role where His Law is concerned. So adding pride as a serious sin to God's commandment is a sin against God. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by obailala(m): 5:40pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Lol... Mr. A has the chance to repent but Mr. B doesn't have that chance. This should already tell you that both crimes (or sins) have different weights in the eyes of God. End of Discussion! Whether Mr. A chooses to use the 5 year chance he had or not is totally inconsequential and irrelevant. The point is that he had a chance which Mr. B didn't. Hopefully you will understand this English grammar one day. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 5:41pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
obailala:Mr. A had the chance to repent but in the end that chance amounted to nothing and he ended up in the same hole, same sentence, as a man who committed the "unforgivable" sin against God. Whether you commit the small sin or the big sin,the judgment is the same. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by obailala(m): 7:12pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:So what if Mr. A repented, will he land in the same hole? |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 7:25pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
obailala: The truth is the answer to this question is levels above this here discussion. So long as Mr. A remains unrighteous, he would still end up in the same hole as Mr. B , this where Righteousness has to do with living above and beyond sin. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by obailala(m): 8:08pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Lol... Why do you keep avoiding the scenario that he repents? You keep insisting on what happens if he remains 'unrighteous'; but the question I asked is "what if he repents? Would he still end up in the same hole as Mr. B (who had no option of repentance)? You're desperately trying to avoid admitting to the obvious thing which several folks on this thread have been explaining to you. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 8:15pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
obailala:1. Repentance from sin does not grant one an automagic ticket at the end - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - righteousness does. So, it matters little to nothing whether one has repented from sin or not. What matters is whether one goes on to do the works expected or not. 2. No desperation here. Simply considering the Truth as revealed to us all by Jesus Christ is all. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by obailala(m): 8:19pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Lol.. still dancing in circles Okay if Mr. A repents and begins to live a righteous and holy life, what happens? Does he end up in the same hole as Mr. B (who had no option of repentance)? |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Kobojunkie: 8:42pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
obailala:If Mr. A had done that before his expiration, he would have qualified. Sadly, Mr. A was not able to do all that before he expired, hence the scenario. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by obailala(m): 9:21pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:The Mr. A I refer to has since repented and is living a righteous life. But Mr. B never had that luxury of repentance cos his sin was mortal. At the end of the day, the point everyone in this thread has tried to point out to you is that all sins are not equally weighted. Some sins are stronger than others. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by SireFrancesco00: 9:49pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Righteousness2: WHAT DID POPE FRANCIS SAY CONCERNING ADULTERY? 1. Recently the internet went on fire over the Pope's comment on an issue bothering on the sin of "Adultery" when a question was posited to him regarding a shepherd who is said to be founding wanting in that sin. 2. In the context of responding to the question he was asked, Pope Francis hinted that adultery is not the most grevious sin. Rather, he mentioned Pride and hatred as being more grevious. 3. Did the Pope say adultery is not a sin? No. Did he say people should be comfortable with adultery? No. Unfortunately, the different captions several bloggers have used to draw the attention of the public to what the Pope said, does not reflect the context in which the comment was made. The wrong use of media is indeed a terrible disease destroying our dispensation. 4. What implicitly did Pope Francis say and what lesson can be deduced from it? The one who is guilty of adultery is not condemned yet. The one who would be condemned is the one whose pride would hinder his or her repentance. 5. In John 8, 3-11 the story of the woman caught in adultery is narrated. The scribes and Pharisees had brought her to Jesus to hear what he would say concerning her. They even came with stones to condemn her. Jesus asked if any of them is without sin, let him be the first to cast the stone. They could not cast the stone on her but left one after another. However, they could have also asked for mercy, since they were also sinners. What did Jesus say to the woman? "... Neither do I condemn you but go and sin no more" (John 8,11). 6. They came with stone to condemn her, and but for the intervention of Jesus, that woman would have been stoned to death. You can see the hatred of condemnation with which they brought her to Jesus. 7. While all unrighteousness is sin, yet there is a sin not unto death (I John 5:17). Genuine repentance keeps us reconciled with God and one another. How can there be true repentance without humility and love? Now you may understand what the Pope meant in the context of his comment on the 6th commandment, that pride and hatred are more grevious than adultery. Conclusion Before we comment and react to a post, it is good to understand the context relating to what we are commenting or reacting about. Many comment and react from minds filled with pride and hearts heavy with hatred. If the Lord shall mark our guilt, who will survive? (Psalm 130:3-4) Love covers a multitude of sin (I Peter 4:. We are called to the holiness without which we shall not see God (Heb 12:14). Love. N.b: Stop jumping into the Bible to quoting it as you wish over what you may know little or nothing about. You cannot interpret the Bible better than the Church. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by SireFrancesco00: 10:05pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
WHAT DID POPE FRANCIS SAY CONCERNING ADULTERY? 1. Recently the internet went on fire over the Pope's comment on an issue bothering on the sin of "Adultery" when a question was posited to him regarding a shepherd who is said to be founding wanting in that sin. 2. In the context of responding to the question he was asked, Pope Francis hinted that adultery is not the most grevious sin. Rather, he mentioned Pride and hatred as being more grevious. 3. Did the Pope say adultery is not a sin? No. Did he say people should be comfortable with adultery? No. Unfortunately, the different captions several bloggers have used to draw the attention of the public to what the Pope said, does not reflect the context in which the comment was made. The wrong use of media is indeed a terrible disease destroying our dispensation. 4. What implicitly did Pope Francis say and what lesson can be deduced from it? The one who is guilty of adultery is not condemned yet. The one who would be condemned is the one whose pride would hinder his or her repentance. 5. In John 8, 3-11 the story of the woman caught in adultery is narrated. The scribes and Pharisees had brought her to Jesus to hear what he would say concerning her. They even came with stones to condemn her. Jesus asked if any of them is without sin, let him be the first to cast the stone. They could not cast the stone on her but left one after another. However, they could have also asked for mercy, since they were also sinners. What did Jesus say to the woman? "... Neither do I condemn you but go and sin no more" (John 8,11). 6. They came with stone to condemn her, and but for the intervention of Jesus, that woman would have been stoned to death. You can see the hatred of condemnation with which they brought her to Jesus. 7. While all unrighteousness is sin, yet there is a sin not unto death (I John 5:17). Genuine repentance keeps us reconciled with God and one another. How can there be true repentance without humility and love? Now you may understand what the Pope meant in the context of his comment on the 6th commandment, that pride and hatred are more grevious than adultery. Conclusion Before we comment and react to a post, it is good to understand the context relating to what we are commenting or reacting about. Many comment and react from minds filled with pride and hearts heavy with hatred. If the Lord shall mark our guilt, who will survive? (Psalm 130:3-4) Love covers a multitude of sin (I Peter 4:. We are called to the holiness without which we shall not see God (Heb 12:14). Love. N.b: Stop jumping into the Bible to quoting it as you wish over what you may know little or nothing about. You cannot interpret the Bible better than the Church. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by GetMeRight: 10:28pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Bearfruit: Mock? Not at all! It's a sincere question except you don't ask questions when it is about religions |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Ungodly: 11:03pm On Dec 10, 2021 |
Nubski2021:back up the last sentence of your rants with a biblical verse mister |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by KENFERDYOORI(m): 12:21am On Dec 11, 2021 |
Righteousness2: I think we underestimate the unfathomable mercy of God. If God were to mark our sins, no one, not even one, would survive. Yours mayn't be sexual immoralities, but other sins, surely. The emphasis is on the effort we make, to come out of our sins, towards holiness... |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Squidbabe: 8:18am On Dec 11, 2021 |
You must be very funny for saying this . it shows u don't read your bible and pls stop deceiving ppl. Go and read 2 Samuel 12 :11 where God spelt out what he would do to David because of his sin ,then go down to verse 13-14 where God told him that he has forgiven him his sins but his son must die . Calamity will never seize from his household ,and truly if you read down David was from one problem to another which lasted years. Don't lead ppl astray pls . it is better you accept that yes you fornicate and ask God to help you out of it rather than trying to deceive your conscience and others . headSmasher: |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Depsui(m): 7:41am On Dec 12, 2021 |
GoodIsGod: You're saying nonsense. Sin against the Holy Spirit can't be forgiven. Are you saying that sexual sins can't be forgiven. Think before you talk. |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by GoodIsGod: 11:13am On Dec 12, 2021 |
Depsui: If your body is the temple of the holy spirit and you fornicate or start lesbianism etc with it. Who are you grieving? Is it not same holy spirit? Reason before you criticize |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by Depsui(m): 5:33pm On Dec 12, 2021 |
GoodIsGod: Dude, when the Holy Spirit is living in you. Lying or gossiping with your mouth is not different from sex. So if having sex is grieving the Holy Spirit, then lying with your mouth is also grieving the Holy Spirit. Because your mouth is also part of your body. My point is, sin against the Holy Spirit is a completely different thing entirely. Don't rewrite the Bible 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Sexual Sins Is Not Most Serious Sin by GuyfawkesAB(m): 5:44pm On Dec 14, 2021 |
Catechism has done a lot more brainwashing of Catholics than any other preaching or ideology. Why do Catholics confess their sins to a Father, when the bible clearly states that we should confess our sins to Christ Jesus directly? The only place the Apostle Paul admonishes us on confession of sin is that we should confess them to one another so as to be able to edify and build ourselves up. Not to one man who your Catholicism has designated as to be able to forgive sins. Why do you keep a statue of Mary or the assumed Jesus at every catholic parish and have people kneel and bow before it before proceeding into the auditorium? Some Mary organizations even hold meetings in front of these 'Shrines' and do obeisance and worship to this statues Who is the bloody Pope that I can't tell him to his face that he lied if he did? Is he an angel? That man is leading ya'll to hell. African conservatism is still preventing you from seeing the abominations that he is already giving his blessings to in America and Europe GiantParrot: |
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