Gerrard59:


It's extremely hard for a black person regardless of nationality to be a permanent resident or citizen in Singapore. Singapore nationality is tied to race and since blacks have no historical relations with Singapore, we are poorly regarded when it comes to citizenship/permanent residency in Singapore. Also, Singapore citizenship comes with letting go of the previous citizenship and this is strictly adhered to. Japan has same but there's a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. When entering Japan, use the Japanese passport and when travelling to say Nigeria, use the Nigerian passport. That way, a Nigerian can hold both passports.

Regarding being a citizen, just as I outlined in obtaining a visa as a Nigerian in Nigeria, being a naturalised citizen of Japan is way easier and straightforward than any other developed country. Any skilled person who resides and works in Japan for five consecutive years is eligible to apply to be a naturalised citizen without going through the permanent residency route. Yes, Japan is the only developed country that allows applicants to side-step permanent residency enroute naturalisation. Five consecutive years and citizenship is sure without being a permanent resident.

https://www.moj.go.jp/EN/MINJI/minji78.html#:~:text=The%20general%20conditions%20for%20naturalization,of%20the%20Japanese%20Nationality%20Act).&text=The%20person%20must%20have%20been,the%20prescribed%20period%20of%20time.

Cousin9999:


1. Neither is affordable.
2. Neither offers an especially competitive international education.
3. Both will gladly accept you to any uni and take your money while telling you the education is competitive.
4. Singapore is racist. There's no jobs there for you unless you're already working for a foreign firm that sends you there. Even if there were, you would be treated terribly. Japan is also racist. The only jobs available to you are English teaching and factory work. In both jobs, you likely won't be paid (or paid barely anything), will be abused, and will be in unsafe conditions. Japan also has no laws against racism. And any labor laws in Asia mean nothing. Ask any well-educated Asian in a real profession how much those labor laws mean, and watch them laugh. Asia is not Europe. It just looks the part. Don't be fooled.

� Legit points!

Focus on west Europe and North America.

Cousin9999:


1. Neither is affordable.
2. Neither offers an especially competitive international education.
3. Both will gladly accept you to any uni and take your money while telling you the education is competitive.
4. Singapore is racist. There's no jobs there for you unless you're already working for a foreign firm that sends you there. Even if there were, you would be treated terribly. Japan is also racist. The only jobs available to you are English teaching and factory work. In both jobs, you likely won't be paid (or paid barely anything), will be abused, and will be in unsafe conditions. Japan also has no laws against racism. And any labor laws in Asia mean nothing. Ask any well-educated Asian in a real profession how much those labor laws mean, and watch them laugh. Asia is not Europe. It just looks the part. Don't be fooled.

Focus on west Europe and North America.

Elsueno:
The day I chose to ditch Nigeria. I will relocate to Japan.....I just find thier historical stuff awesome....


Screw that..


I just fuvking LOVE ANImE. SAMURAI & NIanjAs , plus thier language is just soo cool, Arigato guzaimasu

Arigato guzaimasu

grandstar:


Thanks for this info. You're well informed.

I thought that because 36% of Singaporeans were permanent residents meant getting that status was easy.

I, however, acknowledge it is tied like a rock to keeping Singapore's racial balancte and as you noted, Blacks aren't part of that balance.

I'm surprised at the Japanese policy. For a people who by nature are so closed could have such a liberal immigration policy.

During the American occupation of Japan after World War 2,they gave all Koreans living in Japan citizenship. The day after the Americans departed, it was revoked.

Japan's richest man, Mayasoshi Son is of Korean descent.

grandstar:


Singapore is a city state.

This one weak me

Elsueno:
The day I chose to ditch Nigeria. I will relocate to Japan.....I just find thier historical stuff awesome....


Screw that..


I just fuvking LOVE ANImE. SAMURAI & NIanjAs , plus thier language is just soo cool, Arigato guzaimasu

prof2007:
@OP:

This is excellent advice from Cousin9999.

Take it from someone who has had first-hand experience. For quality of teaching, the best post-graduation opportunities, the most wholesome social interactions, and the greatest likelihood of eventual self-actualization, follow this order of priority:

1. Canada
2. USA
3. UK
4. France
5. Germany
6. Other Western European countries
7. Australia
8. Asian countries.

Best wishes for good success in achieving your goals.

rimijoshua:
South Korea is better.

Limassol:
The notion blacks are at a disadvantage in terms of obtaining singaporean citizenship is barely true, and lacks evidence. It's all about meeting the requirements - skin colour has little, if any, to do with that. Prove me wrong with facts please.

grandstar:


Tell me more. I am open to learning.

Simvan:
Please try and ignore my punctuation errors.

I have plans to study robotics after getting my bsc degree in Nigeria, and I am here to find out from those that have idea on how things go in both countries(Japan and Singapore), with regards to;
1. Cost of living.
2. Where can I get a better degree.
3. My chance of being accepted in their university.
4. My chance of getting a job after graduating.

Please if you have a better suggestions aside the two countries I gave, I am open to learning from you.

segtech68:
i have lived server years in both , tell me one asian country that gives citizenship to a black man even when you marry one of them , you are still on your own, lets start from their, this is not arguement

moonraker:


Incorrect!!!

You need a minimum of 10 years to get PR, unless ofcourse you go the married to a Japanese national route and that is debatable.

Limassol:
The notion blacks are at a disadvantage in terms of obtaining singaporean citizenship is barely true, and lacks evidence. It's all about meeting the requirements - skin colour has little, if any, to do with that. Prove me wrong with facts please.

mmsen:


Japan might be safer but it is certainly very racist.

Japan is also incredibly sexist to the point where sexual assault of women on public transport is tolerated (chikan).

Gerrard59:


For goodness sake, there are MANY Nigerians in Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Nagasaki, Hokkaido who married Japanese women and are naturalised citizens. Same in Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand etc. In Japan, as a foreign man regardless of your race or nationality, you get a spousal visa when married to a Japanese woman. Three years after, you become a permanent resident and two more years, a naturalised citizen. Besides, I don't know why you are entitled as a black African esp as a Nigerian to another country's citizenship simply because you married a native.

When I keep preaching that you people should mind the route of migration to your desired country, e get why.

shawante:

Have you crossed the border in your town before.. And it's border not boarder
Olodo..

peppermint7:

Anybody wer support hitler for this life na evil person
Tueh

gboyetade:
I disagree

Limassol:
Panderning to random half-truths does no one no good. OP do not listen to people here spreading misinformation about Singapore. In truth it's a decent country, and as a black person you are unlikely to be discriminated, whether by the goverment or it's people(sure you may come across few a*holes, but they don't represent Singapore as a country) . There are thousands of black expatriates(scientists,academics etc), long-term residents and citizens. Even a black lawmaker (mak pee she) and a prolific footballer( Itimi Dickson) who is of Nigerian descent. However, due to the relatively low numbers of blacks in the country, many Singaporeans are not used to blacks, thus you may be starred in the street, bus or at supermarket. Some may even go as far as touching your hair or taking your picture without your consent, yet that dosen't mean they are racists, far from that, that's curiousity if you ask me. Again, like i stated earlier, you can become a citizen of the country so long as you fulfill the requirements.

Gerrard59:


He mis-educated you, trust me.