KingDash:
obviously.. spirits, ghosts,ghouls,souls don't feel pain you have to be alive to feel pain religion is shit man.

How exactly do you know that they don't feel pain abeg?

Is it the case that you think say pain begins and ends where your physical neurons do?

another1:
Bible says the first will be the last while the last will be first.

Who wrote the bible?

Kobojunkie:
How exactly do you know that they don't feel pain abeg?

Is it the case that you think say pain begins and ends where your neurons do?

dude souls don't feel pain.. hell is a lie, you need to be alive to feel pain that's the whole Idea of being alive.

KingDash:
dude souls don't feel pain.. hell is a lie, you need to be alive to feel pain that's the whole Idea of being alive.

How did you come about this knowledge that souls don't feel pain?
How did you come about this knowledge that one has to be alive in order to feel pain?

If your soul leaves your body, is your soul no longer alive?

KingDash:
dude souls don't feel pain.. hell is a lie, you need to be alive to feel pain that's the whole Idea of being alive.

In other words, KingDash who was born less than 50 years ago has suddenly gotten enough insight to instruct the sages of old both alive and dead who have had first hand encounters of God's presence: either His warm embracing Love through Christ...or His eternal fearsome wrath for those outside of His Grace in Christ....

You are digging your own grave with your own hands if you insist on the foolishness of your ways and path. Atheism or any nonsense will not help you. I have been there and it is just a bunch of baloney!

Only Christ Jesus and His Word breathed and inspired by the Holy Spirit can save you from this darkness and confusion. He died for your sins....which means He really does love you. You are only alive today because He is permitting you to correct your ways, repent and surrender your whole heart to Him....

kingxsamz:
Christianity, heaven and hell makes no sense.
How can someone like Hitler go to heaven after repenting while a child who stole meat from pot will end up in hell?
That's the most illogical form of judgement.

Forget what you have been hearing. That idea is not what the bible preaches, hence,that idea doesnt rhyme with christianity in it's TRUE sense.
What the bible preaches is that God knows we have a lot of weaknesses and he will give us fair enough grace and chance to gain a good life. Bible preaches grace and mercy. Infact, it states that the righteous and unrighteous will resurrect. Billions of people will be given another chance in a fairer and more healthy world to prove their loyalty to God.
Infact, the bible do not preach a fiery hell as a place of eternal punishment for wrong deeds. The term hell has been muddled up-it originally and in most of its occurrence in the original manuscript means the common grave. Hell is that nonexistent state we get into when we die.
The bible preaches that hell, which is death will cease to exist at a future time. So it's not a forever something.
You can also research this things with an open and sincere mind ofcourse.

No arguments there

J3susFr3ak:


In other words, KingDash who was born less than 50 years ago has suddenly gotten enough insight to instruct the sages of old both alive and dead who have had first hand encounters of God's presence: either His warm embracing Love through Christ...or His eternal fearsome wrath for those outside of His Grace in Christ....

You are digging your own grave with your own hands if you insist on the foolishness of your ways and path. Atheism or any nonsense will not help you. I have been there and it is just a bunch of baloney!

Only Christ Jesus and His Word breathed and inspired by the Holy Spirit can save you from this darkness and confusion. He died for your sins....which means He really does love you. You are only alive today because He is permitting you to correct your ways, repent and surrender your whole heart to Him....

the romans or greek once believe the earth was held up by being "Atlas" cause that's was what they believed in until technology and science proved them other wise.. you can't kill souls, what is dead "physical body" cannot die "souls...

Sammydanny:
Controversial Nigerian preacher, Pastor Funmilayo Adebayo, has declared that almost everyone to have existed on earth will go to hellfire.

The preacher, who has become a viral sensation on social media over her comments on hellfire, claimed that 99% of humans who have lived on earth are doomed to go to hell.

She claimed that hellfire will be a very large place because so many people will be thrown there. However, she also explained that as large as hellfire will be, it will not be hard to discover the people who are inside it because movement will be like magic.

Watch the video below:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWPBF6Enqo[/flash]

Hope she knows she is among the 99% to go to hell!

kingxsamz:
Christianity, heaven and hell makes no sense.
How can someone like Hitler go to heaven after repenting while a child who stole meat from pot will end up in hell?
That's the most illogical form of judgement.

See the illogical example u also used to make excuses for ur disbelief.

Kobojunkie:
Let’s begin to use our head in these things abeg!

Someone like Hitler can't go to the Christian Heavean because someone like Hitler lived a life in direct disobedience of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments, and it was apparent for the world to see. In case you attempt to ask what if Hitler had asked for forgiveness right before His death, well It is untrue that one can simply ask for forgiveness on one's death bed, this after living a life of debauchery and , and still make it into God's Heaven. Read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 25 where Christians are told that only the sheep amongst them will enter into Heaven.

So, what saith thou about the thief on Jesus’ right side, who literally went to paradise right from his death bed?

KingDash:
the romans or greek once believe the earth was held up by being "Atlas" cause that's was what they believed in until technology and science proved them other wise.. you can't kill souls, what is dead "physical body" cannot die "souls...

Yet the Romans and the Greeks knew in the end that those nonsensical pagan gods and fables were fables weaved from the figment of their imagination and not from a HARD, GROUNDED REAL LIFE REALITY! In other words...TRUTH! To save their own dying empires from an excessive persecution of Christians even the Romans and Greeks had to abandon their pagan fables and idols and attempt to embrace Christ in the end (Still debatable on if they went about it the right way...)

Why is Jesus and His Word the Ultimate Reality? Why is the Bible the expression of PURE DIVINE REALITY? Because like any truth it can be rigorously proven.


So why did I ultimately accept Jesus as the Ultimate Truth and the ONLY path of escape from the world's damnation? Well....like any human we all have that thing we are most sensitive about...that secret sin that humiliates our self-righteous disposition. It can be many things with many people. In my agnostic mind (which degraded into some weird and zany atheism eventually) I wanted to sincerely and honestly be so morally pure EVEN in my thoughts. I thought I could just WILL myself and use grit and gusto to IMAGINE only GOOD AND PURE THINGS by own own effort alone. I wanted nothing to do with God....

But the more I tried to think pure thoughts...the more I was totally consumed by lust! And the more I got so addicted to masturbation in my early teen years. I tried and tried. I even remembered succeeding in reading so many scientific books to keep myself busy....and that worked only for one night and I must have been so proud of myself. But the moment I thought I arrived WHAM....the impure thoughts consumed me again.

So to cut a long story short...it was when I was 18 in the early 90s I had a Pastor come to out house to preach Jesus to me. I was not interested. But I was instinctively scared of dying ...and going to hell. But I was stubborn and wanted nothing to do with the gospel or the Bible. After a few weeks of arguing and discussions, I just said to myself...ok, when encouraged to repent of my sins. I was not expecting anything to come out of it.,,,nut it must have been one of those mustard seed faith to still trust that a Higher Power cares enough to want to forgive me. I prayed....and then like a massive JUMBO JET crashing into my world WHAM!

Something happened in my spirit....it is so hard to say....but I knew within me something was VERY different. It felt like a heavy weight left me....and my heart was glowing with a certain in-explainable divine peace. I knew this was Jesus....

...that night after a very loooong time I could sleep like baby in my bed. With Pure thoughts....

This alone was able to prove to me beyond every doubt that this Jesus who was able to forgive my sins when I prayed, is awesome and Powerful! That brought a new kind of respect and awe for Christ as this is a real person not just existing in old stories in a book....but is very ALIVE and REAL in my life...and many others who accept Him.

No Greek or Roman "god" can do this.

There are many other Supernatural things Jesus did to prove His reality to me especially when I fell into deep depression and doubt two or three years later.

I believe the Bible.....nothing imaginary about that! But there was a time when I let the flesh get a hold of me and I started to believe these lies that it was very okay to even entertain lust and all types of filth in my heart. I deluded myself that I was not hurting anyone. But Jesus saw this and INTERVENED!

Let me tell you something Jesus did to me long ago when I was masturbating at night. I was sweating, grinding on my bed and then just STOPPED. I could not go on. I was all ALONE in my bedroom!

I heard a LOUD voice in my head SHOUT "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus" again and again. The porn images in my mind began to fade instantly. I was lying sideways to the wall and decided to stretch my arm backwards...then I TOUCHED the BODY of a DEMON withdrawing from me as the name Jesus was shouted by the Spirit. My erection deflated...the images in my mind gone!

When I got to Church the next morning...I told no one about it...but the Pastor started praying for "somebody" attacked by the masturbation demon. He prayed in the name of Jesus!

The Bible is LIVING....always present tense. Christ has all the same powers in the past, the present and the future! He is Living and will prove Himself by faith to you if you humble your heart and pray to Him.


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So you see....Spirits and Demons have "bodies" too. Back in the mid 90s alone in my room when doing an embarrassing thing and doubting my faith...Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God stepped in and intervened to remind me that these sinful desires and habits are strongholds in the lives of people are heavily influenced by Demonic entities that invade your minds (if you let them) and have very REAL TANGIBLE BODIES!

No...not every Christian will tell you that under the Power of the Presence and Name of Jesus....God allowed them to touch a demon with their physical hands to prove they are real.

Kobojunkie:
Let’s begin to use our head in these things abeg!

Someone like Hitler can't go to the Christian Heavean because someone like Hitler lived a life in direct disobedience of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments, and it was apparent for the world to see. In case you attempt to ask what if Hitler had asked for forgiveness right before His death, well It is untrue that one can simply ask for forgiveness on one's death bed, this after living a life of debauchery and , and still make it into God's Heaven. Read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 25 where Christians are told that only the sheep amongst them will enter into Heaven.

Are you in any form or shape insinuating that Sinners that repent and ask for forgiveness shall not make heaven. If that is the case, you are challenging Jesus Christ pardoning of the Thief on the right hand.

BabaAduras:
Are you in any form or shape insinuating that Sinners that repent and ask for forgiveness shall not make heaven. If that is the case, you are challenging Jesus Christ pardoning of the Thief on the right hand.

Read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 where Jesus Christ proclaims that only the righteous will enter into Heaven. And in order to become righteous, one first has to be made free from slavery to sin - John 8 vs 31 - 33 - , becoming a holy/Perfect vessel for God's Spirit to lead and use - John 14 vs 20 - 25.

Heaven is not for those still struggling to overcome sin and the curse. And the only way to overcoming, as Jesus Christ taught is through continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant. .

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I more than made clear in my post there that the Thief on the cross but judged by the Old Covenant standard given by God to the people of Israel aka Jews - Ezekiel 33 va 9 - 20 -, and not by God's New Covenant agreement which was given by God to us through Jesus Christ. So, in no way did I challenge Jesus Christ. I only made clear what Jesus Christ in fact did there with the Thief on the cross.

J3susFr3ak:


I don't know where you got the type of information that drove you to make such an assertion. Here is a real life testimony of someone's experience after his encounter with Death and Christ....

Hitler is in hell....paying for his own sins. Only Jesus the King of the Jews saves....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZPZyYvgoM

That person who claimed to have seen Hitler needs mental evaluation.

jaxxy:


See the illogical example u also used to make excuses for ur disbelief.

Eyah, sorry.

linearity:
So, what saith thou about the thief on Jesus’ right side, who literally went to paradise right from his death bed?

As I already explained, But Paradise isn't Heaven at all. The Thief on the cross, who happened to be a Jew, was forgiven according to God's Old Covenant standard - Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 - , a standard which never came with a promise of Heaven to begin with.

We live under grace and not the law as believers, so all believers are called holy, what a grace!, and we are all meant for heaven, this is what it means when you say am saved, thats to say, saved from sin which brings death, that is the second death in the lake of fire, but believing in christ brings eternal life in the sense that as far as christ is in you, that is your identification for heaven.

You cant decide who goes to hell and who doesnt, for jesus said we shouldnt judge, for some of you have committed greater sins that hitler though you might see it as little but in truth your sins might be worst, but thanks to God who is merciful unto all who are repentant

Kobojunkie:
Again... There are no contradiction except the confusion you create for your own self there.

What I said is that the Old Covenant promises the righteous Jews of that standard that they would live long forever in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20
According to Matthew 19 vs 28 - 30, in the time of the New Heaven and New Earth, there will be those who will have reward in both Heaven and Earth - there is no mention of some getting only the earth.

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If I think or believe this to be a contradiction still, then again, I ask that you pick up and read the book for yourself so you can be sure of what you claim rather than simply basing it on what i have said here.

If you feel the answers I have provided do not cover ot all, pick up the book to read for yourself .... you might find the answers to seek to the contradictions that you claim are there in my answers.

You didn't answer directly.
I don't need epistles but a direct answer.

It should be like this:
Q) Where are suspects taken to have a trial?
A) They're taken to court.

Not

Q) Where are suspects taken to have a trial?
A) The US Constitution bla bla bla .. epistles...

When you're ready to answer correctly, let me know.

kingxsamz:
You didn't answer directly.
I don't need epistles but a direct answer.

It should be like this:
Q) Where are suspects taken to have a trial?
A) They're taken to court.

Not

Q) Where are suspects taken to have a trial?
A) The US Constitution bla bla bla .. epistles...

When you're ready to answer correctly, let me know.

Apart from the mistake I made suggesting that the promise was for a forever in the land of Canaan, when it is instead said long life, I believe I more than sufficiently answered your question for you.

And like I already told you before now, you too can read the book and learn these very things for your own self as all that is required for what i revealed here is basic human language comprehension which I am certain you have enough of.

another1:

Bible says the first will be the last while the last will be first.

That useless book?!

Matthew 7:13-14 KJV
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Tons of people play and toy with fornication, adultery and other sins abhorred by the Almighty

How many of us can say it confidently, that we'll make heaven peradventure the trumpet sounds in the next minute.

God has expressed his agape love through Jesus Christ to mankind

--- for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever believeth 8n him should not perish but have everlasting life.. John 3 :16

It's not by force, it's by choice

You choose to be saved by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior

Rom 9:9 -10

That if thou shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall believe in thine mouth that God hath raised him from the dead thou shall be saved.

It's as simple as a.b.c

And being saved
It is required of you to live a holy life, a life that please God
.....
it is my prayer that none of us will land in hell in Jesus name

Shalom

kingxsamz:


So answer the question like a reasonable Human being that you are.
Where is the Thief beside Jesus ending up after the ressurection? answer directly abeg.

Bro.... I can feel your frustration arguing with such a person. It's very obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about but kept dragging u on.

Traits of people like that is that they never like answering questions directly. U even tried sef.

Kobojunkie:
Apart from the mistake I made suggesting that the promise was for a forever in the land of Canaan, when it is instead said long life, I believe I more than sufficiently answered your question for you.

And like I already told you before now, you too can read the book and learn these very things for your own self as all that is required for what i revealed here is basic human language comprehension which I am certain you have enough of.

You don't know how to argue logically. All u did was run in circles u couldn't answer directly because u knew you were either wrong or ignorant but too ashamed to accept.

There's no crime in saying
"I don't know"
"I'm not sure"
"I was wrong"

You'd have earned people's respect.
U just wasted that young man's time.

Kobojunkie:
There are no contradiction except the confusion you create for your own self there.

What I said is that the Old Covenant promises the righteous Jews of that standard that they would live long forever in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20
According to Matthew 19 vs 28 - 30, in the time of the New Heaven and New Earth, there will be those who will have reward in both Heaven and Earth - there is no mention of some getting only the earth.

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If I think or believe this to be a contradiction still, then again, I ask that you pick up and read the book for yourself so you can be sure of what you claim rather than simply basing it on what i have said here.

You're mentally ill

The ways God is Not THE way of Man

kingxsamz:
Christianity, heaven and hell makes no sense.
How can someone like Hitler go to heaven after repenting while a child who stole meat from pot will end up in hell?
That's the most illogical form of judgement.

all this woman needs Is a good d1ck!! She go calm down sharpaly! All dis yen yen yen about hell faya is damn boring abeg

kingxsamz:


The thief beside Jesus asked for forgiveness when he knew he was about to be killed for his crimes and was still forgiven and promised paradise.
Also, Hitler could have asked for forgiveness before he even got on his death bed. so this one you talk so na own goal.

There are exceptions to every rule and God alone has the perogative to make and break rules. It is absurd though to think that all sins are equal and carry equal weight and intensity. NO! A big no, just no, God is not unjust and neither does the Bible hints that every disobedience would receive equal punishment.

kingxsamz:
Christianity, heaven and hell makes no sense.
How can someone like Hitler go to heaven after repenting while a child who stole meat from pot will end up in hell?
That's the most illogical form of judgement.

Heaven is by grace and not by works, Forget all these confused holier than thou preachers that don't understand the Bible

This religion of deceit has not yet stopped deceiving people since the neolithic days of Roman empire and ancient Europe when many scholars were beheaded or nailed to cross just because their thoughts were different from the religion bigots' of their time.

But we have seen the works of the scientific groups and philosophers grown ever since but nobody has got to witness this heaven or hell thing as they preach it.

kingxsamz:


That person who claimed to have seen Hitler needs mental evaluation.

Liers throughout no one is in Hell now, none has been condemned. these fake preachers are misinterpreting the Bible. At the final judgement, God will resurrect all and judge them, only them will He condemn those to be condemned. None is in Hell fire now, so any person seeing anyone in Hell fire is simply a fake preacher