Irrespective of what you think, she still deserves family support

AmazonTopaz:
Don't misunderstand me children are human beings with rights and as parents or guardians it is expected of you to guide them while under your care till they get to a stage where they don't need it typically around 16 because then their opinions must have been formed it is not your duty to impose your beliefs on them.

I see that you are conservative or traditional anyway rules are meant to be challenged and always subject to changes so welcome to the 21st century where personal liberty is prioritised and the status quo is not always right and it is not in society's place to decide for individuals the roles they should fit into let the individuals decide for themselves humanity still has rules it is just that you don't like the rules of today but you will just have to live with it.Men are not living with beast in today's society ao no need to prevail over that.

When there is still discrimination you are talking about ease, lol you are against equality are you sure you are okay?If not for equality the white man will remain superior to youand you would not have basic rights,and why should gays not have rights are they not human beings did homosexuality atart today was it liberals who discovered it?Paedophilia and beastiality has nothing to do with liberalism try not to be a clown this your write up is very embarrassing.
Thankfully liberals are in the majority and people are embracing it everyday we don't need your support it will still continue to flourish because it is for the time that we are in.
So far so good raising kids with love has made them more empathetic and loving to they neighbour it is better that they are raised with love and compassion if that means them being spoiled then you are a terrible human being that needs to unlearn a lot and relearn things.If the good old days were so good for raising kids there would have been no need to adopt the love approach.I get the feeling that you are a man and yet we wonder why children get to love their mothers more when fathers or men like you think that loving kids and training them in compassion equal spoiling them you are the best example of this, how has raising children without love worked out for you and your generation be the judge of that ask yourself where that has gotten you and your know it all good -old generation?

You can't be talking from both sides of your mouth. You were earlier equating kids with adults and now you're still claiming they need guidance ,what guidance?

You ask me not to equate Paedophilia with homosexuality. Why shouldn't I? Slowly homosexuals started arguing their case ,even getting some people in the academia to back their cause. Only a matter of time before pedophiles start arguing their case and start claiming they aren't hurting anyone.Liberals are weird people ,the foolishness of some people has no limits.Imaging someone who says they want to identify as a lizard.Or a Transgender man who wants to compete with women.

Slayar:




You can't be talking from both sides of your mouth. You were earlier equating kids with adults and now you're still claiming they need guidance ,what guidance

I never equated kids to adults I said that they are human beings with rights which they are or is your comprehension strength that low?they need guidance from adults and guidance on issues but ultimately when they mature they make decisions for themselves if this is hard for you to understand then I cannot help you.

You ask me not to equate Paedophilia with homosexuality. Why shouldn't I? Slowly homosexuals started arguing their case ,even getting some people in the academia to back their cause

Your equation of both is nothing short of being silly, because one is a relationship concerning two adults the other is one where adults violate and abuse children who cannot give consent.

Only a matter of time before pedophiles start arguing their case and start claiming they aren't hurting anyone.Liberals are weird people ,the foolishness of some people has no limits.Imaging someone who says they want to identify as a lizard.Or a Transgender man who wants to compete with women.

Lol, children with no developed sexual organs are being hurt and there is medical facts to actually back this up that is just wishful thinking in your part and it is not legal in almost every country, peadophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality so stop conflating the two you are just blabbing nonsense the LGBT are not hurting you however paedophilia is and no liberal supports that, liberals support policies that help children and not conservatives who mostly want to indoctrinate kids and use them as pawns

AmazonTopaz:
I never equated kids to adults I said that they are human beings with rights which they are or is your comprehension strength that low?they need guidance from adults and guidance on issues but ultimately when they mature they make decisions for themselves if this is hard for you to understand then I cannot help you.

Your equation of both is nothing short of being silly, because one is a relationship concerning two adults the other is one where adults violate and abuse children who cannot give consent.
Lol, children with no developed sexual organs are being hurt and there is medical facts to actually back this up that is just wishful thinking in your part and it is not legal in almost every country, peadophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality so stop conflating the two you are just blabbing nonsense the LGBT are not hurting you however paedophilia is and no liberal supports that, liberals support policies that help children and not conservatives who mostly want to indoctrinate kids and use them as pawns

You love to argue I see that. You're also uncouth in your arguement. I wouldn't expect anything less from a liberal .

What you fail to understand is that age of consent can easily be shifted as it is in so many western countries. E.g Germany . When the age of consent is shifted to 13 or 14,what will be your arguement then?

I tell you liberals have nothing to offer today other than pushing senseless laws and policies.

Slayar:



You love to argue I see that. You're also uncouth in your arguement. I wouldn't expect anything less from a liberal .

What you fail to understand is that age of consent can easily be shifted as it is in so many western countries. E.g Germany . When the age of consent is shifted to 13 or 14,what will be your arguement then?

I tell you liberals have nothing to offer today other than pushing senseless laws and policies.

I am in the legal profession it is a specialty.When someone calls you out you think I am uncouth lol like I care?
The so called senseless laws and policies is what is giving you rights today and ruling the world today.You will just have to live with it.

You can keep crying but there is nothing you will do to change that most of those consent laws are with kids of related ages and not with adults over 18 which can be argued has nothing to do with liberalism if you are a well-read person you will even know that some persons argue that their religions see nothing wrong in underage marriages and that in those days the good old generation days you so much love women were marrying as young as 13 it took liberal policies and the age of enlightenment to fight that women are human beings with rights to education and opportunities to challenge early marriage.That is why you see movements like girls not brides etc.

Also you don't know anything about liberalism other than your obsession with the personal lives and choices of people which does not affect you and you are trying to impose that on others who don't fit into your narrative that is why you are obsessed with LGBTQ issues focussing on narrow things that concern personal liberty forgetting that liberalism is broader than that why don't you try to mind your businesss on issues that concern adult for a start, I cannot take you seriously if you think that liberals and progressives have nothing to offer or that they are senseless and that conservatives actually do if you think so then you are just a comic relief for saying that and embarrassing yourself better leave that hard rock you live under and come outside to the real world and look around you and see how liberalism and progressivism is changing the world and is being loved by the younger generation of today your hate for liberal ideals shows that you are just a hateful person resistant to change and new ideas,you are obsessed with the personal lives and decisions of others that is why you don't like liberalism and that is a scary trait because it breeds intolerance do better.

AmazonTopaz:
I am in the legal profession it is specialty.When someone calls you out you think I am uncouth lol like I care?
The so called senseless laws and policies is what is giving you rights today and ruling the world today.You will just have to live with it.

You can keep crying but there is nothing you will do to change that most of those consent laws are with kids of related ages and not with adults over 18 which can be argued has bothing to do with liberalism if you are a well-read person you will even know that some persons argue that their religions see nothing wrong in underage marriages and that in those days the good old generation days wonen were marrying as young as 13 it took liberal policies and the age of enlightenment to fight that women are human beings with rights to education and opportunities to challenge early marriage.That is why you see movements like girls not brides etc.

Also you don't know anything about liberalism other than your obsession with the personal lives and choices of people which does not affect and you are trying to impose that on others who don't fit into your narrative that is why you are obsessed with LGBTQ issues focussing on narrow things that concern personal liberty forgetting that liberalism is broader than that why don't you try to mind your businesss on issues that concern adult for a start, I cannot take you seriously if you think that liberals and progressives have nothing to offer or that they are senseless and that conservatives actually do if you think so then you are just comic relief for saying that and embarrassing yourself better leave that hard rock you are under and come outside to the real world and look around you and see how liberalism and progressivism is changing the world and is being loved by the younger generation of today your hate for liberal ideals shows that you are just a hateful person resistant to change and new ideas,you are obsessed with the personal lives and decisions of others that is why you don't like liberalism and that is a scary trait because it breeds intolerance do better.

Nope,most of your liberal countries have some of the lowest ages of consent anywhere in the world and nope its not with their mates. It means they can consent to sex with whomever.

Liberalism has lost its way. What does it teach today other than promiscuity,man -hating, Sexual immorality,abortion, absurdities such as beastiality and homosexuality. In today's world liberalism has nothing good to offer.

If the world went full liberal ,trust me even you would be shocked the extent to which it leads.

Slayar:



Nope,most of your liberal countries have some of the lowest ages of consent anywhere in the world and nope its not with their mates. It means they can consent to sex with whomever.

Proof of this with relevant laws, the context of such laws and how liberalism played a role if not keep shut and stop making it up

Liberalism has lost its way. What does it teach today other than promiscuity,man -hating, Sexual immorality,abortion, absurdities such as beastiality and homosexuality. In today's world liberalism has nothing good to offer.

Liberalism supports better access to health care, education, equal and improved pay and many other progressive policies however with your write up you are the definition of a clown, the Bible talked about promiscuity, abortions and what you mentioned up there and it did not start today also you are babbling rubbish and confirming my earlier stance that you have an intolerance problem obsessing with rights that are covered by personal liberty, bestiality does not concern liberalism stop being silly and making things up, how does man hating concern liberalism?

the promiscuity you are talking about did it not exist before liberalism came did some cultures not support women being prostitutes, concubines, sex before marriage to ascertain if a woman can bear children did all these not happen before liberalism are they not promiscuous acts?are you normal did homosexuality start today did ancient cultures not support homosexuality did it start today with liberalism or is it because liberals are against conversion therapy and see it as a form of abuse and champion their rights and tackle discrimination laws against them that you have a problem who made you moral police over the rights and liberties of others do you know how law works and that they must not be based on morality have you not heard of secularism?


As for abortions I am pro choice and I believe in a woman's right to choose if that offends you adopt every child you see on the street and don't subject them to abuse, you that cannot raise a child in love is against abortion irony is dead, what have you done to help women and address the issues that lead to abortion are you in support of birth control and maternal health these are policies liberals support to reduce abortions because they know that banning abortions does not stop abortions but rather puts women in danger and sometimes frees men of responsibility read more about abortion and the facts that abortion bans does not stop abortions but leads quacks to damage women's lives.If you want to police women's bodies adopt every homeless child and put in place laws to protect women even if you can it is her body her choice don't burden women with what they don't want why not advocate for male vasectomy since you are against abortions since men can impregnate multiple women in a month.

You are a very close minded person

If the world went full liberal ,trust me even you would be shocked the extent to which it leads.

Another baseless assumption if conservatism was so good majority of the world population would not be supporting liberalism in the first place.If conservatism was better there would not have been liberalism in the first place your opinion makes no sense but you have a right to it

AmazonTopaz:
Proof of this with relevant laws, the context of such laws and how liberalism played a role if not keep shut and stop making it up

Liberalism supports better access to health care, education, equal and improved pay and many other progressive policies however with your write up you are the definition of a clown, the Bible talked about promiscuity, abortions and what you mentioned up there and it did not start today also you are babbling rubbish and confirming my earlier stance that you have an intolerance problem obsessing with rights that are covered by personal liberty, bestiality does not concern liberalism stop being silly and making things up, how does man hating concern liberalism?

the promiscuity you are talking about did it not exist before liberalism came did some cultures not support women being prostitutes, concubines, sex before marriage to ascertain if a woman can bear children did all these not happen before liberalism are they not promiscuous acts?are you normal did homosexuality start today did ancient cultures not support homosexuality did it start today with liberalism or is it because liberals are against conversion therapy and see it as a form of abuse and champion their rights and tackle discrimination laws against them that you have a problem who made you moral police over the rights and liberties of others do you know how law works and that they must not be based on morality have you not heard of secularism?


As for abortions I am pro choice and I believe in a woman's right to choose if that offends you adopt every child you see on the street and don't subject them to abuse, you that cannot raise a child in love is against abortion irony is dead, what have you done to help women and address the issues that lead to abortion are you in support of birth control and maternal health these are policies liberals support to reduce abortions because they know that banning abortions does not stop abortions but rather puts women in danger and sometimes frees men of responsibility read more about abortion and the facts that abortion bans does not stop abortions but leads quacks to damage women's lives.If you want to police women's bodies adopt every homeless child and put in place laws to protect women even if you can it is her body her choice don't burden women with what they don't want why not advocate for male vasectomy since you are against abortions since men can impregnate multiple women in a month.

You are a very close minded person


Another baseless assumption of conservatism was so good majority of the world population would not be supporting liberalism in the first place.If conservatism was better there would not have been liberalism in the first place your opinion makes no sense but you have a right to it

I didn't read the bullshit you typed.From the very first line I see you lack manners and etiquette.

Slayar:



I didn't read the bullshit you typed.From the very first line I see you lack manners and etiquette.

Lol why are you running are you tired already?Between the both of us who wrote BS ask yourself this question in sincerity and see if it is not you typical naira land male who loses an argument with a woman but wants to show his myopic chauvinism by talking about vague manners and etiquette

Somebody who is obsessed with people's personal lives is talking about manners and etiquette and wants to impose his views on others while condemning what he does not understand lol irony is truly dead.

Remain pained.

AmazonTopaz:


Lol why are you running are you tired already?Between the both of us who wrote BS ask yourself this question in sincerity and see if it is not you typical naira land male who loses an argument with a woman but wants to show his myopic chauvinism by talking about vague manners and etiquette

Somebody who is obsessed with people's personal lives is talking about manners and etiquette and wants to impose his views on others while condemning what he does not understand lol irony is truly dead.

Remain pained.

If you want to argue, dish out your points ,I am not here to insult .I kept reading your posts but I didn't see anything other than insults. I don't have time for that.

Slayar:



If you want to argue, dish out your points ,I am not here to insult .I kept reading your posts but I didn't see anything other than insults. don't have time for that.

@bold, you have a comprehension problem don't hide under that.

shantti:


She dey yell at your mum and you could not beat sense into her

as in eh she probably wasn't scared of anyone in the house. Why won't she got pregnant?

AmazonTopaz:

And you think today's parents don't still beat their kids,after all the beating they still end up as yahoo boys,ritualist, runs girls, gigolos and other vices you think those ones were not beaten abi?

Better study the psychology of children beating does not work on every child sometimes what they see you do is enough to correct them, for others communication helps it depends on the kind of communication languages some children have some are auditory others are not.

The parenting of those days were no better because the kids still turned out bad and hid things from their parents that wasn't discipline but fear.Parenting is with love you are raising humans not animals that you must always abuse in the name of beating without correction.If the parents of old were so good we won't be so corrupt, hateful and bitter and lack basic human emotion/love or call it decency.
It was the older generation that thought us every known corruption and vices we have today despite all the beating, no ground breaking innovation or progress attributed to the Nigerian society.

You don't know the meaning of "woke" study it and don't make it look like a bad or terrible thing, you Nigerians should stop buying into racist conservative narrative that was designed to attack the true purpose of what "woke" means which is to be alert and aware of racial/social injustices in our society there is nothing wrong in being woke.

The earth is evolving, we are in the information era, the age of Aquarius the era of social/political and environmental awareness and enlightenment.

Thank you. All beating does is break children down psychologically. It should be banned. It's abuse not discipline

bepositive11:


Thank you. All beating does is break children down psychologically. It should be banned. It's abuse not discipline

Loud it

AmazonTopaz:

@bold, you have a comprehension problem don't hide under that.

Your mother obviously didn't train you well. You're ignorant , arrogant and rude at same time. I bet you are not under any man currently .

I trashed everything you spilled but only decided to stop arguing with you when you left the argument and resorted to insults.

Slayar:


[s]Your mother obviously didn't train you well. You're ignorant, arrogant and rude at same time. I bet you are not under any man currently .

I trashed everything you spilled but only decided to stop arguing with you when you left the argument and resorted to insults[/s].

Keep quiet if you were not also ignorant, arrogant and rude you would not be mentioning my mom.

And I am with a man and not under a man you can bet that right because I can never be under a man but rather I am partnered with a man you didn't trash anything I exposed your ignorance and shortsightedness on issues because you know little or nothing about what you're talking about.

AmazonTopaz:

Keep quiet if you were not also ignorant, arrogant and rude you would not be mentioning my mom.
And I am with a man and not under a man you can bet that right because I can never be under a man but rather I am partnered with a man you didn't trash anything I exposed your ignorance and shortsightedness on issues because you know little or nothing about what you're talking about.

Just steer clear off me. I've made my point,if you like take it or leave it.

Slayar:



Just steer clear off me. I've made my point,if you like take it or leave it.

You quoted me first you made no point and I won't take it.
Bye

AmazonTopaz:

You quoted me first you made no point and I won't take it.
Bye

Sayonara

So OP what's the plan now?

franchasng:
Use condom they will say they don't enjoy it with condom, na wa oh

We don't enjoy condom,is it a big deal.I'll never allow any man use condom on me.I'm still a virgin ooo so don't think negatively about me.

Iyaebe:
We don't enjoy condom,is it a big deal.I'll never allow any man use condom on me.I'm still a virgin ooo so don't think negatively about me.

hahahaha Iya you know I wont use it







I was talking about them