Empiree:
he favored then at their time. Not now

Empiree:
Lord have mercy. So you are daft like this?.

Why did you study English in school?. Is it not to be able to communicate, read and write?. Quran is universal book. Salat are universal. Hence, Salat must be conducted in the language Quran was revealed. I already proved universality of Islam to you so there is no going back. You either accept or teehee, that's your problem

this verse is talking about messangers that came before prophet muhammad (SAW). That they were sent to their people.

you can see you are jumping from one headache to another.

advocatejare:

Show me your answer from the Quran or from authentic hadith. If you can’t, then it has confirmed the word of the Quran that the Quran was revealed to only the people of Mecca and its surroundings and not you Arab wannabes and that was why Allah sent it in Arabic to the Arabic speakers

mhmsadyq:


This Nuisance was here.

Empiree:
nothin worse then wasting time with pigheaded people. Your book will be used again you.

Zephaniah 3:9
“For at that time I will purify the speech of the peoples to a pure speech(Arabic), that all of them may call upon the name of the LORD and serve him shoulder to shoulder"


Now deny it or say this is Bible

advocatejare:


Sahih Muslim 146
It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullahb. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.

mhmsadyq:


Crying more than the bereaved!

Why you dey carry this hadith for head like gala?

Is it your Islam?

advocatejare:

If you are sensible you would have read and see the reason I brought up this hadith. It was in response to the lie your brother said !

Don’t cry, the fate of Islam as sealed by Muhammad is what the Hadith talks about, deal with it. Except of course you don’t accept Muhammad as a true prophet!

mhmsadyq:


Alhamdullilah!
There is something you believe from the Prophet.

advocatejare:

Of course, I believe what he said about islam starting strange and ending strange after all Even a Broken Clock Is Right Twice a Day

mhmsadyq:


I am happy for you!

advocatejare:

I wish I can say the same for you, follow the man wey sabi road not the one who doesn’t know what his fate would be

advocatejare:

Continue the insults, you quoted from Zephaniah, did your Allah claim to have revealed the book of Zephaniah?

Oniro

You claim the Bible is not from God and yet you always run there to look for validation, I asked you for reference from your books, you failed woefully to get from there but ran to the Bible

Quote from the Quran or Hadith where Allah said that you must learn Arabic or pray in Arabic


So Arabic is the pure speech? Was that written in the scripture you quoted or you inserted it there?

And is it even written here that you should go and learn to read the Quran and pray in Arabic?

You are adding to the word of God, the punishment for that is that there will be additions to your calamities

mhmsadyq:


You will soon understand it, just as you have for the former.

Continue...

Empiree:
Since you failed to grasp messages of Quran I quoted earlier, then your Bible would be option for you and I did. Now your are complaining again?.

Now tell me which religion in the world today has different races pray in one language on worship?.

Go on..

advocatejare:

The message of the Quran is clear: Quran was revealed to the people of Mecca and those around it. If you’re not from Mecca or around it, the Quran isn’t meant for you.

Prophets were sent in the languages of their people, muhammad spoke only Arabic which was the language of his people, hence if you are not a native Arabic speaker, Muhammad wasn’t sent to you, go and look for your own prophet that was sent to you!

Don’t go too far.

Ifa worshippers all over the world in Nigeria, Brazil, West Africa, North America, Canary island all worship in Yoruba language even non-Yoruba natives

Empiree:
Prophet Mohammed, peace and prayer be upon him, sent several letters to kings and rulers outside the Arabian Peninsula to invite them to Islam. In a letter sent to Egyptian ruler Al-Muqawqis in the sixth year of hijri, the prophet invited him to Islam and said if he becomes a Muslim, Allah will double his reward.

You are not even proud of Christianity you had to align with ifa people . Jesu christianity doesn't worth citing as example? . You aren't even shameful not proud of your religion.

advocatejare:

So he was only interested in inviting only a few kings because of what he would get from them.

Same reason he was raiding the Jewish settlements to steal their treasures.

He despised the poor and that was why the Quran even reported his harsh treatment of the blind man that came to him

Surah 80:1-2
عَبَسَ وَتَوَلَّىٰ

1. He frowned and turned away

أَنْ جَاءَهُ الْأَعْمَىٰ
2. Because there came to him the blind man


Muhammad never preached Islam to the whole world nor commanded his followers to do the same because Muhammad knew that he was sent to the people of Makkah and those around it!

You asked me to tell you which “religion in the world today has different races pray in one language on worship”

The religions that do that are idolatry and pagan religions like Islam because your gods are limited to one particular language, if you pray to them in another language they won’t understand, that’s why I used a fellow paganism like Islam to answer you.

As for Christianity, our God is not limited to any language, you can pray to him in any language you choose, he is not like Allah that becomes deaf to other language except Arabic

Empiree:
olodo.... The issue of blind man had nothing to do with preaching Islam to him. Afterall blind man wasarab too. Lobatan.

first all, prayer is different from worship. Muslim can pray in their mother tongue.

Christians do not worship with one language throughout the world. Lobatan

advocatejare:

The issue of blind man is related to preaching Islam because just like you mentioned Muhammed only wrote to a few kings to join Islam for selfishness, he only preached Islam to those he could benefit from. He frowned at the blind man because he didn’t want to be seen with him as that one had nothing to offer him.


Muhammad never preached to the whole world or ordered his followers to preach Islam to the whole world because muhammad was sent only to people of Mecca and those around it



Iro ti ba aiye e je

Why are you like Allah the best of the deceivers?

Prayer in Islam is Salat/Salla which is compulsory and you are to observe it in Arabic because your god is limited to only one language so how can you come here to lie that you Muslims pray in your mother tongues?



Christians have a God that understands all languages so he is not limited to one language like your pagan god.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

advocatejare:

I’m not it’s clear that you are


Guy your opinion is as useless and the “p” in psychology.
I didn’t ask for your opinion. I asked you to tell me where you were asked to learn Arabic in order to be able to pray or read the Quran.

Show me your answer from the Quran or from authentic hadith. If you can’t, then it has confirmed the word of the Quran that the Quran was revealed to only the people of Mecca and its surroundings and not you Arab wannabes and that was why Allah sent it in Arabic to the Arabic speakers



Lying as usual, there is no where it was said that it was for previous messengers, show from the clear Quran itself or hide your face in shame


It is stated in the Quran that no messenger (Rasool) was sent except in the language of his people. That’s the logic of Islam and Quran.

Muhammad only spoke Arabic and hence, according to that Quranic verse, muhammad was sent only to the Arabs and not the whole world as he couldn’t speak all the languages in the world!


“And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allāh sends astray [thereby] whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.”
-Quran 14:4



Also, it is stated in the Quran that the Quran was revealed to warn the people of Mecca and those around. Quran was not sent to the whole world, if you’re not an Arab, the Quran wasn’t sent to you.


And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allāh and avoid ṭāghūt." And among them were those whom Allāh guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. So proceed [i.e., travel] through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers.
-Quran 16:36


Allah said that he sent messengers to every nations. Muhammad was sent in the language of his people and the Quran was sent to the people of Mecca and surroundings, you Nigerian Muslims should go and look for your own messengers that was sent to you!


Oniro jatijati, you lied and said “up islam” when Muhammad said islam will end strange like it started.

Are you calling Muhammad a liar?

Are you saying that you’re wiser than Muhammad who had given his verdicts on Islam?

Sahih Muslim 146
It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullahb. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.

Bi ejo n se ma kori wonu, beni islam a se kori wonu

Empiree:
nothin worse then wasting time with pigheaded people. Your book will be used again you. Zephaniah 3:9:

“For at that time I will purify the speech of the peoples to a pure speech(Arabic), that all of them may call upon the name of the LORD and serve him shoulder to shoulder"

Now deny it or say this is Bible

true2god:
Thanks 'advocatejare'. You are doing great educating my muslim brothers.

true2god:
It is very bad and intellectually dishonest of you to insert the word 'Arabic' into Zephaniah 3:9 when no any Bible translation or translator (or even Bible commentators) input Arabic into the translation. Besides, you can never see the word ‘Arabic’ even in the original Hebrew text as far as Zephaniah 3:9: is concerned. You must apologize for this fraud and misleading info from you.

Now on Zephaniah 3:9,

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges
9. For then … people a pure language] the peoples a pure lip. The term lip often means “language” (Genesis 11:1), but here it seems rather to denote the organ of speech. Comp. Isaiah 6:5; Isaiah 6:7, “I am a man of unclean lips … lo, this hath touched thy lips, and thine iniquity shall depart.” The construction is condensed, and the meaning is, then will I turn to the peoples their lip into a pure lip. Their lips were unclean either generally from their inward sinfulness or especially from their taking the names of their false gods upon them (Psalm 16:4; Hosea 2:19). With purified lips they shall fitly call upon the name of the Lord.

serve him with one consent] lit. with one shoulder, or, back. The Sept., under one yoke, probably rightly interprets the figure, which is that of animals labouring together with a single yoke laid over their shoulders in common. On the general sense comp. Jeremiah 32:39; Ezekiel 11:19-20.

Benson Commentary
Zephaniah 3:9. For then — Or, afterward, as the particle אזseems to signify here, will I turn, or restore, to the people a pure language — I will turn them from their idolatries, and other wickedness, (see Zephaniah 3:13,) to glorify me with one mind and one mouth. The same thing is expressed by speaking the language of Canaan, Isaiah 19:18. This promise seems primarily to respect the Jewish captives in Babylon, and to imply that God would, by the captivity, and other methods of his providence, so reform them and wean them from their idolatries and other sins, that they should, upon their return to their own land, all join together to glorify him with one mind and one mouth, and serve him alone in sincerity and truth. And this was accordingly, in a great measure, accomplished. For they never after their restoration worshipped different gods, as they had done before; but all joined, as well those of the ten tribes that returned, as those of Judah and Benjamin, in the worship of Jehovah alone; nor did the nation in general ever afterward fall into gross idolatry. And it is not to be doubted that their morals in general were much more pure when they returned from Babylon, than at the time they were carried thither. It is, however, generally supposed by commentators, that the full accomplishment of this promise is reserved for the latter days, after the conversion of the Jews, and the coming in of the fulness of the Gentiles, when there shall be one Lord, and his name one, Zechariah 14:9. Accordingly the word rendered people in the first clause is in the plural, עמים, peoples, I will restore to the peoples a pure language: an expression which could hardly be intended of the Jews only, but seems evidently to include the Gentiles also. To serve him with one consent — Hebrew, with one shoulder; that is, unanimously, and with joint endeavours. The metaphor is taken from beasts drawing together in one yoke, or men setting their shoulders together to one burden.

These are the commentaries from Bible scholars. Stop using Zakir Naik on the Bible.

Empiree:
Since you failed to grasp messages of Quran I quoted earlier, then your Bible would be option for you and I did. Now your are complaining again?.
Now tell me which religion in the world today has different races pray in one language on worship?. Go on..

true2god:
It is not a thing of pride to be praying in another cultural language. Thhere is no universal language; it is only a racist and supremacist culture that would want to impose her language on other cultures. The European Christians and the Arabian Muslims did exactly this.

However, it is only the Arabian Muslims that have made their language a spiritual language that their god Allah can accept, because other local languages are not acceptable for prayers as a Muslim. What’s the meaning of this? It imposed Arabic on non-Arabs which itself is a racist move. And again, Muslim prayers make no sense when you use your local dialect and understand what you are saying.

NeoWanZaeed:
Acadip is an organization that claims to be from Islam and practice Islam but NAY, they're not .

They are practicing ACADIP religion not Islam. Zaik Naik, Ahmed Deedat and others.

yGoodmann:

What brought them out of the fold of Islam? I only need explanation sir.

NeoWanZaeed:


They're NOT following the scripture
They're NOT following the methodology of preaching according to the prophet.
They are affirming Bible as holy book
They have different belief from prophet Muhammad
They know absolutely nothing about Islam but know all about bible..

Let me stop here

yGoodmann:


No any Hadith or saying of the salafs here, I need something that we pave way for daleel pls. May Allah make things easy for us. Āmīn

yGoodmann:


No any Hadith or saying of the salafs here, I need something that we pave way for daleel pls. May Allah make things easy for us. Āmīn