PeaceJoyLove:

Terrorism is when you deliberately manipulate people. It is called mental terrorism. This is what your Jehovah Witness cult does. You do not allow others to have freedom of speech because you always overwhelm them even on this platform. You and your fellow Jehovah Witness Terrorists always behave like nuisances here.
Peace be unto everyone!

Meaning of terrorism!

TERRORISM

©The deliberate commission of an act of VIOLENCE to create public fear through the suffering of the victims in the furtherance of a political or social agenda.

©The use of unlawful VIOLENCE against people or property to achieve political objectives.

©A form of psychological manipulation through WARFARE to the purpose of political or religious gains, by means of deliberately creating a climate of fear amongst the inhabitants of a specific geographical region.

Madam i hope this is not how you're grooming your children to become TERRORISTS in the society with VIOLENCE in your heart against those who disagree with you on the matter of FAITH!

Jehovah examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one; He hates anyone who loves violence. Psalms 11:5


So if you're from the race of CAIN {Genesis 4:3-10} God is warming you today because you're not sane with this line of thought!

But if you don't repent then know that no matter what you think say or do the true God will surely remember His faithful servant it's you that will continue to routine in your grave {Psalms 9:17} when God bring back His loyal ones! Job 14:13-15

From oppression and from violence he will rescue them, And their blood will be precious in his eyes! Psalms 72:14

If you're not a useless, worthless and hopeless woman there's no reason threatening people with death simply because they hold a different opinion!

MaxInDHouse:


Meaning of terrorism!

TERRORISM

©The deliberate commission of an act of VIOLENCE to create public fear through the suffering of the victims in the furtherance of a political or social agenda.

©The use of unlawful VIOLENCE against people or property to achieve political objectives.

©A form of psychological manipulation through WARFARE to the purpose of political or religious gains, by means of deliberately creating a climate of fear amongst the inhabitants of a specific geographical region.

Madam i hope this is not how you're grooming your children to become TERRORISTS in the society with VIOLENCE in your heart against those who disagree with you on the matter of FAITH!

Jehovah examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one; He hates anyone who loves violence. Psalms 11:5


So if you're from the race of CAIN {Genesis 4:3-10} God is warming you today because you're not sane with this line of thought!

But if you don't repent then know that no matter what you think say or do the true God will surely remember His faithful servant it's you that will continue to routine in your grave {Psalms 9:17} when God bring back His loyal ones! Job 14:13-15

From oppression and from violence he will rescue them, And their blood will be precious in his eyes! Psalms 72:14

If you're not a useless, worthless and hopeless woman there's no reason threatening people with death simply because they hold a different opinion!

If you put your head on the table, I am telling you....I will feed it to the vultures in the forest. No be you put am down for the cause you believe in? If your teaching is false, your blood will make a super wine and blood tonic or meal for livestocks.

Dundie United. Go and check rhe meaning of threat. Put your head down for the cause you believe in if you are sure, and let's get to work.

Mumu....so, you want people to put their after-life for your useless, crazy, bastardized teachings... tou preach after-life as the ultimate, yet, you cannot put your head down. You be real werey. A proper one that needs to be chained in Yaba left.

Oloshi!!!!

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We believe that Jehovah Witness is a cult that should be outlawed, just as it is in Russia. Why? They also promote many unproven doctrines and strange teachings as gospel. And they compel and force people to conform to their standards. If you ask them more questions, they will not respond because they do not have answers. They would rather force you to accept their faith. We are using this medium to tell them to force their beliefs on those who visit their shrines rather than forcing them on the general public.

As a result, we recommend that you do not accept all Jehovah Witness posts as the truth, but rather contributions that one of them has accepted. We have an evidence to back this up. And their contributions could be either false or true. We advise you not to take Jehovah Witness posts as the gospel. Please take the time to read and ask questions whenever you read their posts. Also, read other people's opinions and compare them with their. I assure you that you will see lies in their teachings.

In short, there are strong indications that Jehovah Witness is a cult you should avoid.

For example:

Jehovah Witnesses always mention Jesus. This Jesus they keep mentioning, why did they use "a god" to address him? Why? Mind you...they have said many times that Jesus or God dont speak to us anyone, but we learn through the Bible. And we know that Jehovah Witness read KJV which didnt call Him .."a god" till 1940s. So, how did they know that Jesus is "a god"? Please...Jesus and God cannot tell them ooo because they said they both dont speak to us again...and the available scriptures did not call Him "a god". How did they come about this?

Hmmm... So, if they can explain well, we will know they know this Jesus intimately. If they cannot answer, do they have the right to right to call on Jesus?


My other questions
1. Why did Jehovah Witness change God to "a god" in their Bible?
2. They said a few among the saint will go to heaven and the remaining will stay in earth. Let them proceed this beyond reasonable doubt.
3. The story of Lazarus and the rich man is about hell. Let them tell us if it is a real story or an ordinary parable of Jesus. And they should show us the proof of their stand.

They should use verified sources for these verifications.▪︎ Verified proofs are sources that we can really verify.


4 Jehovah Witnesses down on NL. MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, ibomrep, Janosky, bukola94 have all tried but they have failed so far. These are the sheep in wolves in NL, beware of them

Peace be unto everyone!

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Shameless witch there's nothing you can do other than ranting helplessly on faceless forums like this!

PeaceJoyLove:


If you put your head on the table, I am telling you....I will feed it to the vultures in the forest. No be you put am down for the cause you believe in? If your teaching is false, your blood will make a super wine and blood tonic or meal for livestocks.

Dundie United. Go and check rhe meaning of threat. Put your head down for the cause you believe in if you are sure, and let's get to work.

Mumu....so, you want people to put their after-life for your useless, crazy, bastardized teachings... tou preach after-life as the ultimate, yet, you cannot put your head down. You be real werey. A proper one that needs to be chained in Yaba left.

Oloshi!!!!

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We believe that Jehovah Witness is a cult that should be outlawed, just as it is in Russia. Why? They also promote many unproven doctrines and strange teachings as gospel. And they compel and force people to conform to their standards. If you ask them more questions, they will not respond because they do not have answers. They would rather force you to accept their faith. We are using this medium to tell them to force their beliefs on those who visit their shrines rather than forcing them on the general public.

As a result, we recommend that you do not accept all Jehovah Witness posts as the truth, but rather contributions that one of them has accepted. We have an evidence to back this up. And their contributions could be either false or true. We advise you not to take Jehovah Witness posts as the gospel. Please take the time to read and ask questions whenever you read their posts. Also, read other people's opinions and compare them with their. I assure you that you will see lies in their teachings.

In short, there are strong indications that Jehovah Witness is a cult you should avoid.

For example:

Jehovah Witnesses always mention Jesus. This Jesus they keep mentioning, why did they use "a god" to address him? Why? Mind you...they have said many times that Jesus or God dont speak to us anyone, but we learn through the Bible. And we know that Jehovah Witness read KJV which didnt call Him .."a god" till 1940s. So, how did they know that Jesus is "a god"? Please...Jesus and God cannot tell them ooo because they said they both dont speak to us again...and the available scriptures did not call Him "a god". How did they come about this?

Hmmm... So, if they can explain well, we will know they know this Jesus intimately. If they cannot answer, do they have the right to right to call on Jesus?


My other questions
1. Why did Jehovah Witness change God to "a god" in their Bible?
2. They said a few among the saint will go to heaven and the remaining will stay in earth. Let them proceed this beyond reasonable doubt.
3. The story of Lazarus and the rich man is about hell. Let them tell us if it is a real story or an ordinary parable of Jesus. And they should show us the proof of their stand.

They should use verified sources for these verifications.▪︎ Verified proofs are sources that we can really verify.


4 Jehovah Witnesses down on NL. MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, ibomrep, Janosky, bukola94 have all tried but they have failed so far. These are the sheep in wolves in NL, beware of them

Peace be unto everyone!

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Jokerman:


Let me answer it on his behalf.

Yes they in hell, will be resurrected at the 2nd resurrection to give account of their deeds while on earth, and they and hell itself will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, which is the 2nd death.

Note: Hell (Hades) is not the same as the Lake of Fire

According to the bible, what is the wages or penalty for sin?

If someone has paid that penalty will you punish him again?

LilBlaze24o:


According to the bible, what is the wages or penalty for sin?

If someone has paid that penalty will you punish him again?

The lake of fire is the final punishment and the end of all sin.

LilBlaze24o:

According to the bible, what is the wages or penalty for sin?

Romans 6:23

If someone has paid that penalty will you punish him again?

Romans 6:7

Jokerman:


The lake of fire is the final punishment and the end of all sin.

And what is the Lake of Fire?
Answer from the bible please.

LilBlaze24o:


And what is the Lake of Fire?
Answer from the bible please.

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

LilBlaze24o:


And what is the Lake of Fire?
Answer from the bible please.

Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46 - the place of eternal damnation in the Kingdom of God - that is what is referenced there in John's book of Revelations as lake of fire.

pyyxxaro:
Nope


They would be doing BUGA CHALLENGE at the entrance

pryxxxaro or so,ur statements are illogical apparently,thats why u'll always speak off the board/point.

enilove:
Your flesh will decay but the soul will burn in hell for eternity :
Psalm 9:17 KJV
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

The verse you posted does not support your claim that flesh will decay but the soul will burn in hell for eternity.

Jokerman:


Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

If the lake of fire is called death, I need a simple Yes or No to these questions.

Since hell and death were cast into the lake of fire... Can death die? Can hell die?

LilBlaze24o:
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
If the lake of fire is called death, I need a simple Yes or No to these questions.
Since hell and death were cast into the lake of fire... Can death die? Can hell die?

Following the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 20 vs 19 - 31, Hell is the place where the unrighteous dead of God's Old Law of Moses temporarily awaited their final sentence -perishing in the grave - and Death is the grave itself which for those who sleep in it only lasts until the resurrection - the end to one's earthly term on earth. They are both of them not eternal meaning there is an end to them. And according to John's book of dream/vision record, that end takes place when they are both replaced by that which he refers to as the lake of fire(Eternal damnation).

gideonjeta:

So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

Unfortunately you don't know who God is Sha. A lot of people believe God is so good he cant hurt anyone. He loves mercy. He like saving people. Any one who disobeys him he forgives easily. He does no harm to people. I wish you will not be shocked on judgement day when you see people on scary bodies eating thorns like rice and burning with extreme vexation.

Kobojunkie:
Following the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 20 vs 19 - 31, Hell is the place where the unrighteous dead of God's Old Law of Moses temporarily awaited their final sentence -perishing in the grave - and Death is the grave itself which for those who sleep in it only lasts until the resurrection - the end to one's earthly term on earth. And according to John's book of dream/vision record, that end takes place when they are both replaced by that which he refers to as the lake of fire(Eternal damnation).

Kobo please be reading KjV abeg. Death is horrible and horrifying pain in the lake of fire that the person can't even cry or weep but die in pains. That is why they call it death. And who told you it is not eternal. Paul said Everlasting Destruction.

Hope2014:
1. Kobo please be reading KjV abeg.
2. Death is horrible and horrifying pain in the lake of fire that the person can't even cry or weep but die in pains. That is why they call it death. And who told you it is not eternal. Paul said Everlasting Destruction.

1. I don't understand at all. Why make an idol of KJV and pretend that the Truth of God is changed depending on the translation you hold to? Is it that you do not believe Jesus Christ when He said God's Word is eternal?

2. And this claim of yours that Death is a horrible, and horrifying pain in the lake of fire, where does it come from? First try to understand scripture in the context presented so you don't go around confusing ideas

Open your eyes... God first defined Death for all mankind in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. Then for those of the Old Covenant Law of Moses - the National Constitution which God gave to the people of Israel, we are formally introduced to a new Idea when considering death(end of life on earth) - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Those who are righteous and have eternal life as a result sleep in their graves whereas those who are judged unrighteous and are without eternal life, as a result, are condemned to instead perish in their graves. In Luke 16 vs 19 - 31, Jesus Christ tells us a parable to explain this end, that awaited the righteous and unrighteous of old, indicating Hell as a place where the unrighteous went to be destroyed - since they have no eternal life. All this is according to, again, the Old Covenant and not the New.

Hope2014:

Unfortunately you don't know who God is Sha. A lot of people believe God is so good he cant hurt anyone. He loves mercy. He like saving people. Any one who disobeys him he forgives easily. He does no harm to people. I wish you will not be shocked on judgement day when you see people on scary bodies eating thorns like rice and burning with extreme vexation.

According to what is written in scripture, it is only those who are born-again that will end up in the place of Eternal damnation - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

You see, to be born-again is to enter into an eternal Covenant with God by entering into the Kingdom of God John 3 vs 1 - 8 - via either of two gates - the broad Gate which leads to destruction(eternal damnation) or the narrow gate which leads to true Life(eternal reward) - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27. There are no exit gates indicated. So, once you enter, you are locked for eternity in the agreement. And according to Jesus Christ, all those who will end up in Hell are all of them born-again - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - they all have eternal life which they will spend in eternal damnation thanks to their belief in HIm - John 3 vs 16. Not trying to scare you. Simply explaining what it in fact means to say one is born-again.

Hope2014:

Unfortunately you don't know who God is Sha. A lot of people believe God is so good he cant hurt anyone. He loves mercy. He like saving people. Any one who disobeys him he forgives easily. He does no harm to people. I wish you will not be shocked on judgement day when you see people on scary bodies eating thorns like rice and burning with extreme vexation.

Who is the first sinner? = Adam
And what did God say about the penalty? = Death
So when did God change His mind to keep sinners alive tormenting them? Jeremiah 7:31

God doesn't forgive unrepentant sinners they will be gone for good! Psalm 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22

There's nothing after death because that is the capital punishment for sin {Romans 6:23} and at death man has fully paid for all his sins! Romans 6:7

MaxInDHouse:

Who is the first sinner? = Adam
And what did God say about the penalty? = Death
So when did God change His mind to keep sinners alive tormenting them? Jeremiah 7:31

God doesn't forgive unrepentant sinners they will be gone for good! Psalm 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22

There's nothing after death because that is the capital punishment for sin {Romans 6:23} and at death man has fully paid for all his sins! Romans 6:7

Death is excruciating Pain. It is not literal death like falling sick and dying but mad pain for all eternity. Okay what happened to Korah Dathan and Abiram. They descended into hell alive to be tormented until judgement day when they will be thrown into the lake of fire.

Hope2014:

Death is excruciating Pain. It is not literal death like falling sick and dying but mad pain for all eternity. Okay what happened to Korah Dathan and Abiram. They descended into hell alive to be tormented until judgement day when they will be thrown into the lake of fire.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, God destroyed evildoers not keeping them alive. There's no place called "Hell" go and make a thorough research it simply means "Grave" the churches of Christendom borrowed the Greek philosophy threatening people to join their churches.
According to God's word Sheoul (Hebrews) Hades (Greek) Hell (English ~obsolete) all mean the same thing ~ Grave! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10

MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, God destroyed evildoers not keeping them alive. There's no place called "Hell" go and make a thorough research it simply means "Grave" the churches of Christendom borrowed the Greek philosophy threatening people to join their churches.
According to God's word Sheoul (Hebrews) Hades (Greek) Hell (English ~obsolete) all mean the same thing ~ Grave! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10

You will understand better when you see it when you get to Heaven

Hope2014:

You will understand better when you see it when you get to Heaven

I am not going to heaven, earth is where God promised me!
Psalms 37:9-11, 29
Proverbs 2:20-22
Isaiah 65:21-23
Matthew 5:5
Only co-rulers with Christ will be transformed to spirit beings so they can live forever with Jesus in heaven but as for the rest of righteous mankind earth is our permanent abode! Psalms 115:16

You will notice that all you're saying is just what your churches say not what you can substantiate using the Bible! 2Timothy 3:16-17

So stop deceiving yourself if it's the fear of Hell that's depriving you from being an evil person then it means you don't love God it's the threat that's keeping you in the church!

gideonjeta:
Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?

According to the Bible, God crea.......
So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

Punishment given for a sin is only to change the mind of the soul and purify it. There is no trace of revenge in this. The hell is an indication of the intensive love of God to the souls through which God wants to reform the souls. The hell indicates the hectic effort of God put on the soul to reform it and not to leave the soul for its fate.

A father may leave his son since he is not changing inspite of all his efforts. But in the hell God puts serious effort and succeeds to change the soul. Therefore, even thousands of fathers cannot be equal to God. God is not leaving the soul without changing it and this point is indicated by the punishment and hell.

Therefore, there is no point of excusing the Prarabhdas if this true basis is understood. God will try to change the soul through preaching as far as possible. Punishment in the hell is the last resort. Once the soul is reformed all the sins are smashed since there is neither the necessity of preaching nor the necessity of punishment.

The Divine Father is taking the best care of each soul. Even the punishments given by God here on earth and hereafter in hell, only indicate His anxiety to reform the sinful soul, which is His child. Hell is the reflection of God’s highest kindness, which helps in reforming souls. Hell is not the reflection of His anger or desire for revenge. If we understand this very subtle point, we will be very peaceful about things taking place in this world. There is no error taking place in the divine administration. Everything taking place in this world is the result of the most perfect working of God’s wonderful administration. No soul can even dream of running the world in a better way than the way it is being run. It is our utter ignorance that causes us to misunderstand God and stray (stay) away from the path of self-purification. We are ignorant of the deeds of other souls. We are ignorant of the most wonderful divine administration working in the background. We are ignorant of God’s supreme talents and capabilities in administering and reforming souls. Above all, we are ignorant of the supreme kindness of God towards all souls.
We are worried about things, about which we need not be worried at all! People were worried about Jesus when He was carrying the cross. He told them not to worry about Him. He was under the direct supervision of the kindest Lord. Instead, He told them to worry about themselves and their children. He might have suffered for a few hours, but He was going to sit forever on the right lap of the Divine Father! These people, who were worried about Him, might be living happily on earth for a little while, but they were going to be thrown into the liquid fire forever along with their future generations! So, who should be worried? The spectators or Jesus?
A person may finish off the punishment of his or her sin by suffering for it here. The person may then get a wonderful new divine birth in the immediate future. Another person, who is wasting his time in sympathizing with this suffering person, instead of focusing on his own reformation, may finally get thrown into the liquid fire forever! Hence, it is always advisable to focus on self-rectification than unnecessarily wasting time in investigating and judging God’s administration of this world.



All the punishments are only for reformation of the soul and not for revenge. The hell is created by God not with vengeance against sinners but due to kindness to reform the souls. God is always kind to reform the souls, which are His children since the souls are created by Him.

The father will never have even a trace of vengeance towards his issues. Jesus always addressed God as father and He propagated this concept by saying that all your sins will be excused by God if you are reformed. Practical knowledge, the practical realization, which is the reformation, will cancel all your previous bad deeds or sins as told in Gita (Jnanaagnih….). Except this one way, there is no other way to cancel the sins and escape from all the present problems in the world and future torture in the hell.

If you are not doing any sin, you are excused for all past sins

The results of all your good actions will be separate and will not interfere with the cancellation of sins. God will give you good results for all your prayers and any prayer will not cancel even a trace of your sin. Similarly, your charity.

Hope2014:

Death is excruciating Pain. It is not literal death like falling sick and dying but mad pain for all eternity. Okay what happened to Korah Dathan and Abiram. They descended into hell alive to be tormented until judgement day when they will be thrown into the lake of fire.

God judged those men and condemned them to perish in their graves. The only people to face judgement day to come when Jesus Christ returns are those whom Jesus Christ gave Law to.

If you don't believe God's own Word is Truth, and feel it your place to add your own delusions to His mouth, how can you rightly claim that God is whom you serve?

Suffering excruciating Pain before death does not mean one then proceeds to torment in some hell waiting for judgement. Even babies sometimes suffer excruciating Pain before death.

gideonjeta:
Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?

According to the Bible, God created the first human pair perfect. (Genesis 1:27) He placed them in a paradise garden and gave them the opportunity to live forever. However, the first humans, Adam and Eve, had one restriction--not to eat from a certain tree. They disobey and reap the deadly consequence of death.

Had Adam and Eve been in danger of burning in hell, would not God have warned them about such a punishment? The fact is that he(God) mentioned nothing about suffering after death. How could they suffer? They did not have immortal souls that would survive after death. The Bible makes this very clear at Ezekiel 18:4 which says in part--"The soul who sins is the one who will die."

As the Giver of life, our Creator knows all there is to know about life and death. He tells us in his Word that “the dead know nothing at all, ” (Ecclesiastes 9:5). That is why Adam and Eve could not suffer in a fiery hell after their death. They simply returned to the dust and ceased to exist. They "know nothing at all.”

So, then, is it reasonable to believe that people suffer in hellfire for their sins, when Adam, the one who brought death upon the entire human race, simply became dust after dying?​ If both good and bad people die and nobody experiences suffering after death, what is the final punishment for those who continually do bad things without remorse?

Anyone who refuses to conform to God’s laws will be punished with “the second death.” as stated in Revelation 21:8. This is the death from which they will never awake.

So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

Good people also go to hell. In fact many good people are in hell. They are as good as Jehovah Witnesses who think they are doing service to God.

No matter how good you are, you will burn in hell if you don't have Jesus in your life.

And it will be for eternity.

Second death is not destruction or a state of non existence. It is worse than hell.

Second death is being thrown into the Lake of fire which is worse than hell.

Proof that second death does not mean destruction or none existence.

When Jesus comes back, he will defeat the beast and the false Prophet in Revelation 13. And the scripture says that both of them will be thrown into the Lake of fire:

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone.

After this, Satan will be bound for 1,000 years while Jesus establishes his Millennium Reign on earth.

When the 1,000 years is over, Satan will be loosed for a season. He will gather his army against God's people but fire from heaven will consume them all.

Then Satan himself will be thrown into the same Lake of fire. And after over 1,000 years, the scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there. They were not consumed away. Read the narration below;

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

And the Bible makes it clear that they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

I have never seen broad day liars like the Jehovah Witness. May you never be a victim of their false teachings.

They are agents of darkness luring people into the very hell they claim does not exist.

Ken4Christ:

And the Bible makes it clear that they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. Romans 6:7

gideonjeta:
Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?
........ho continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

Punishment given for a sin is only to change the mind of the soul and purify it. There is no trace of revenge in this. The hell is an indication of the intensive love of God to the souls through which God wants to reform the souls. The hell indicates the hectic effort of God put on the soul to reform it and not to leave the soul for its fate.

A father may leave his son since he is not changing inspite of all his efforts. But in the hell God puts serious effort and succeeds to change the soul. Therefore, even thousands of fathers cannot be equal to God. God is not leaving the soul without changing it and this point is indicated by the punishment and hell.

Therefore, there is no point of excusing the Prarabhdas if this true basis is understood. God will try to change the soul through preaching as far as possible. Punishment in the hell is the last resort. Once the soul is reformed all the sins are smashed since there is neither the necessity of preaching nor the necessity of punishment.

The Divine Father is taking the best care of each soul. Even the punishments given by God here on earth and hereafter in hell, only indicate His anxiety to reform the sinful soul, which is His child. Hell is the reflection of God’s highest kindness, which helps in reforming souls. Hell is not the reflection of His anger or desire for revenge. If we understand this very subtle point, we will be very peaceful about things taking place in this world. There is no error taking place in the divine administration.


Everything taking place in this world is the result of the most perfect working of God’s wonderful administration. No soul can even dream of running the world in a better way than the way it is being run.

It is our utter ignorance that causes us to misunderstand God and stray (stay) away from the path of self-purification. We are ignorant of the deeds of other souls. We are ignorant of the most wonderful divine administration working in the background. We are ignorant of God’s supreme talents and capabilities in administering and reforming souls. Above all, we are ignorant of the supreme kindness of God towards all souls.


We are worried about things, about which we need not be worried at all! People were worried about Jesus when He was carrying the cross. He told them not to worry about Him. He was under the direct supervision of the kindest Lord. Instead, He told them to worry about themselves and their children.

He might have suffered for a few hours, but He was going to sit forever on the right lap of the Divine Father! These people, who were worried about Him, might be living happily on earth for a little while, but they were going to be thrown into the liquid fire forever along with their future generations! So, who should be worried? The spectators or Jesus?


A person may finish off the punishment of his or her sin by suffering for it here. The person may then get a wonderful new divine birth in the immediate future. Another person, who is wasting his time in sympathizing with this suffering person, instead of focusing on his own reformation, may finally get thrown into the liquid fire forever! Hence, it is always advisable to focus on self-rectification than unnecessarily wasting time in investigating and judging God’s administration of this world.



All the punishments are only for reformation of the soul and not for revenge. The hell is created by God not with vengeance against sinners but due to kindness to reform the souls. God is always kind to reform the souls, which are His children since the souls are created by Him.

The father will never have even a trace of vengeance towards his issues. Jesus always addressed God as father and He propagated this concept by saying that all your sins will be excused by God if you are reformed. Practical knowledge, the practical realization, which is the reformation, will cancel all your previous bad deeds or sins as told in Gita (Jnanaagnih….). Except this one way, there is no other way to cancel the sins and escape from all the present problems in the world and future torture in the hell.

If you are not doing any sin, you are excused for all past sins

The results of all your good actions will be separate and will not interfere with the cancellation of sins. God will give you good results for all your prayers and any prayer will not cancel even a trace of your sin. Similarly, your charity.

If these good actions can reform you, then, your sins will be cancelled. Therefore, reformation of the soul is the only way by which God is pleased to cancel your sins. Even if you do not believe in God, it does not matter. If you are not doing any sin, you are excused for all past sins and you will live with immense happiness in the world and after death also.

If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

You cannot please God by prayers and service simultaneously doing sins. If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God and you are insulting God. You cannot please and insult God simultaneously. Therefore, every devotee and servant of God should be careful about the concept of the sin and about the only path to cancel the sin.


Several devotees belonging to the nivṛtti (loving and serving God) line treat pravṛtti(obeying justice) as if it were a lower level. They even commit sins, violating the justice of pravṛtti. This is totally wrong. Pravṛtti is not lower than nivṛtti. It is only the prior step before nivṛtti. If You cross one station and reach the next station, do You think that the first station is lower than the second station? Moreover, the same God is the Chief Controller in pravṛtti as well as nivṛtti.

If You damage a factory’s administration, which is like pravṛtti, and do some personal service for the factory-owner at his house, which is like nivṛtti, do You think the owner will be pleased with Your personal service? If You do not damage the factory and help in its administration, the owner will be pleased with You even if You do not do his personal service.

Kobojunkie:
Following the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 20 vs 19 - 31, Hell is the place where the unrighteous dead of God's Old Law of Moses temporarily awaited their final sentence -perishing in the grave - and Death is the grave itself which for those who sleep in it only lasts until the resurrection - the end to one's earthly term on earth. They are both of them not eternal meaning there is an end to them. And according to John's book of dream/vision record, that end takes place when they are both replaced by that which he refers to as the lake of fire(Eternal damnation).

Well you still didn't get the question..
The question was:

Since lake of fire means - second death, can Death and Hell die?


If hell is a place reserved for the unrighteous of Moses law, was Jonah sent to hell? I will need a sincere answer from the bible only.


Jonah 2:2
And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.


By the way, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus like you said is a parable and nothing more. Just like the parable of the lost coin, prodigal son, ten virgins, etc.

Did any of these events in the parable happened real or were they used to each something. I guess u know the answer... They weren't real events.

Jesus was never teaching about HELLFIRE as some assumed when he gave the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.

LilBlaze24o:
1. Well you still didn't get the question.. The question was: Since lake of fire means - second death, can Death and Hell die?
2. If hell is a place reserved for the unrighteous of Moses law, was Jonah sent to hell? I will need a sincere answer from the bible only.
Jonah 2:2
And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
3. By the way, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus like you said is a parable and nothing more. Just like the parable of the lost coin, prodigal son, ten virgins, etc. Did any of these events in the parable happened real or were they used to each something. I guess u know the answer... They weren't real events.

4. Jesus was never teaching about HELLFIRE as some assumed when he gave the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.

1. The first Death and hell are both not eternal, and we know that anything that is not eternal has an end/die, so clearly everything that is not eternal will indeed die.

2. According to the story, Jonah was instead in the belly of the whale, which he described as hell in his lamentation. I have been in places myself where I described my experience as being in hell but that don't mean I in fact died and went to hell, does it?

3. They were all stories/analogies used by Jesus Christ to teach various lessons to His followers. Those with little understanding are easily distracted by the various details in the stories whereas the lessons are usually at the end of the story.

4. Jesus Christ wasn't teaching the people about hell or hellfire when He spoke the parable of Lazarus and the rich man to them. Instead, the lesson He had for them to learn was that there will be none sent back from the grave to warn the living of Heaven or Hellfire(eternal damnation).

Kobojunkie:
1. The first Death and hell are both not eternal, and we know that anything that is not eternal has an end/die, so clearly everything that is not eternal will indeed die.

2. According to the story, Jonah was instead in the belly of the whale, which he described as hell in his lamentation. I have been in places myself where I described my experience as being in hell but that don't mean I in fact died and went to hell, does it?

3. They were all stories/analogies used by Jesus Christ to teach various lessons to His followers. Those with little understanding are easily distracted by the various details in the stories whereas the lessons are usually at the end of the story.

4. Jesus Christ wasn't teaching the people about hell or hellfire when He spoke the parable of Lazarus and the rich man to them. Instead, the lesson He had for them to learn was that there will be none sent back from the grave to warn the living of Heaven or Hellfire(eternal damnation).

I like and commend sincerely your dedication in giving answers to the questions I raised.

But we still got a lot to discuss.

Our emphasis is still on the word HELL and it's usage in the bible. And in all the instances the word HELL appeared both in the Greek and Hebrew scripture, it is rendered GRAVE.

The word translated as Hell in the bible, is HADES in Greek and SHOEL in Hebrew. If this word is to mean a literally place that burns with fire, then you raise confusion as to certain texts or the bible.

Examples

Amos 9:2
Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

Jonah 2:2, Rev. 20:14... And many others.


When the bible speaks of death and hell being thrown in the lake of fire, it's literally death and grave. You can check that from other translations of the bible. Sure death is the last enemy to be defeated, so it's casting off into the lake of fire (the second death - not a literal fire) simply means total destruction or annihilation. This same fate awaits Satan, his demons and his followers.

The bible is clear about the future of righteous humans. They will live forever on earth

Psalm 37:29
The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.

While the evildoers will be totally annihilated from the surface of the earth.

Psalms 37:9-10
For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth. ו [Waw] Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there

LilBlaze24o:
1. I like and commend sincerely your dedication in giving answers to the questions I raised. But we still got a lot to discuss. Our emphasis is still on the word HELL and it's usage in the bible. And in all the instances the word HELL appeared both in the Greek and Hebrew scripture, it is rendered GRAVE. The word translated as Hell in the bible, is HADES in Greek and SHOEL in Hebrew. If this word is to mean a literally place that burns with fire, then you raise confusion as to certain texts or the bible.

2. When the bible speaks of death and hell being thrown in the lake of fire, it's literally death and grave. You can check that from other translations of the bible. Sure death is the last enemy to be defeated, so it's casting off into the lake of fire (the second death - not a literal fire) simply means total destruction or annihilation. This same fate awaits Satan, his demons and his followers.

3. The bible is clear about the future of righteous humans. They will live forever on earth

1. Words are known to have different meanings attributed to them based on the context being considered. In the Old Covenant, for example, the Word Hell is used to point to the place of the unrighteous dead whereas the grave is the place where the righteous dead sleep in the grave - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 being where you find clearly stated that there are two different ends that await those who are of God's Old Covenant.

In God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, however, the end that awaits the Righteous is indicated as Heaven(Eternal Reward) whereas the end that awaits the unrighteous is also referred to as Hell(Eternal Damnation) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - also referred to as the Lake of fire in John's book of Revelation. And from this, you can see how ridiculous it really is to argue the meaning of a word when a word, as already stated, can take on a different meaning depending on context.

2. Again, that is clear enough even from my previous post. Whether the fire is literal or not, I don't know this since I have never been to the place of Eternal damnation described by Jesus Christ to know this. The same goes for your claim as to it being a place of literal destruction or annihilation. I only have the Words of Jesus Christ which state that the torment is for eternity for those who end up there. Surely, something that has been destroyed does not endure eternal torment.

3. It is also quite clear about the end of the unrighteous and the unbelievers.

gideonjeta:
Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?

According to the Bible, God created the first human pair perfect. (Genesis 1:27) He placed them in a paradise garden and gave them the opportunity to live forever. However, the first humans, Adam and Eve, had one restriction--not to eat from a certain tree. They disobey and reap the deadly consequence of death.

Had Adam and Eve been in danger of burning in hell, would not God have warned them about such a punishment? The fact is that he(God) mentioned nothing about suffering after death. How could they suffer? They did not have immortal souls that would survive after death. The Bible makes this very clear at Ezekiel 18:4 which says in part--"The soul who sins is the one who will die."

As the Giver of life, our Creator knows all there is to know about life and death. He tells us in his Word that “the dead know nothing at all, ” (Ecclesiastes 9:5). That is why Adam and Eve could not suffer in a fiery hell after their death. They simply returned to the dust and ceased to exist. They "know nothing at all.”

So, then, is it reasonable to believe that people suffer in hellfire for their sins, when Adam, the one who brought death upon the entire human race, simply became dust after dying?​ If both good and bad people die and nobody experiences suffering after death, what is the final punishment for those who continually do bad things without remorse?

Anyone who refuses to conform to God’s laws will be punished with “the second death.” as stated in Revelation 21:8. This is the death from which they will never awake.

So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

Keep up with your deliberate lies. You only quote Scriptures that appears to support your pre conceived opinions while ignoring others that even have more passages.

Hell is real and its not just about bad people going there. Good people also go there. In fact so many good people are in hell.

If you don't accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you will burn in hell.

And your final destination is the Lake of fire which is far worse than hell. You will swim in that liquid fire for the rest of your life weeping and gnashing your teeth.

Better repent now and stop your deceitful teachings that appeals only to the senses but clearly contradicts the scripture.