MaxInDHouse:
I'm here for you today!
So mention the LIES that Jehovah's Witnesses are saying because if you and i disagree on doctrines it means one of us is lying and to cut the long story short present two out of all the sects you're referring to as "Christians" who are in AGREEMENT regarding doctrine!

lost false jw mad max

yes, and my previous post shows that, the one lying is you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw74:

lost false jw mad max
yes, and my previous post shows that, the one lying is you:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

The churches of Christendom could be likened to five individuals dressed the same way standing on the bridge at Oṣòdì all saying they know the way to Ìjẹ̀bú-Òde.
The first one said people should enter the bus going towards Yábà to Òyìngbò, the next said it's the bus going towards Àpápá, another said when people get to mile 2 they should face Badagry, another said they should face Orílé, still the fifth said people should face Abúlé-Ẹ̀gbá all these people dressed the same way and talking about how to get to Ìjẹ̀bú-Òde.

Jehovah's Witnesses could be likened to one man whose dress is different he holds a map in his hand to show people the direction to Ìjẹ̀bú-Òde in the map and saying all the five are wrong. So the five teamed up to criticize him but instead of them to use the map they're furiously accusing him.

You can't quote any scripture to back up what your religion is practicing as the authentic way of going about Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses are using the Bible to teach people what they need to do as disciples of Christ and what will be the result in the society.

There are thousands of different religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, you can't point out a single sect and explain how their activities is in line with what the disciples of Christ were doing in the first century yet JWs who are doing it you say they are devils.

Ọmọ you can continue deceiving yourself at least any right thinking human should know what to do after reading our conversation today!

johnw74:

u said that u can defeat 6 armed military combatants single handed
u said i am a pastor of a church
u said that i am oloodegbu
u said that i am emusan

So all the Jehovah's Witnesses on this planet are saying this or it's just argument between two persons: you and i?

Ọmọ you be confirmed mumu!

If you truly want to talk about the LIES of a religion it should be what all the members are teaching that's not yielding positive results in any society not your argument with just one member!

MaxInDHouse:
The churches of Christendom could be likened to five individuals dressed the same way standing on the bridge at Oṣòdì all saying they know the way to Ìjẹ̀bú-Òde.
The first one said people should enter the bus going towards Yábà to Òyìngbò, the next said it's the bus going towards Àpápá, another said when people get to mile 2 they should face Badagry, another said they should face Orílé, still the fifth said people should face Abúlé-Ẹ̀gbá all these people dressed the same way and talking about how to get to Ìjẹ̀bú-Òde.



Ọmọ you can continue deceiving yourself at least any right thinking human should know what to do after reading our conversation today!

lost false jw mad max

truly confused one, all of Christianity couldn't be likened to the garbage you said, you just can't stop lying.

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.


and yes any right thinking man reading our conversation today should know what to do:
avoid the liar

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
So all the Jehovah's Witnesses on this planet are saying this or it's just argument between two persons: you and i?
Ọmọ you be confirmed mumu!
If you truly want to talk about the LIES of a religion it should be what all the members are teaching that's not yielding positive results in any society not your argument with just one member!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

oh duh twister/liar, you said john 8:44 wasn't about you,
i showed that it certainly is:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


you keep saying how you are all of the one line of thought, oh most dum one

johnw74:

truly confused one, all of Christianity couldn't be likened to the garbage you said,

Deeperlife, RCCG, Winners Chapel, MFM, Chosen, Apostolic Church, Methodist, Catholics, Anglican, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim, Foursquare, C.A.C., Synagogues, Christ Embassy and so on all are contradicting themselves yet they're claiming they belong to just one teacher "Jesus"

Oya point out one that's truly practicing what Jesus taught and how it's applicable in our society today!

johnw74:

you keep saying how you are all of the one line of thought, oh most dum one

Mumu!

Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth are all of one line of thought regarding you who is not even known outside Nairaland or how to practice what Jesus taught?

MaxInDHouse:
Deeperlife, RCCG, Winners Chapel, MFM, Chosen, Apostolic Church, Methodist, Catholics, Anglican, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim, Foursquare, C.A.C., Synagogues, Christ Embassy and so on all are contradicting themselves yet they're claiming they belong to just one teacher "Jesus"
Oya point out one that's truly practicing what Jesus taught and how it's applicable in our society today!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

i don't belong to any of those orgs. you mentioned, confused one:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Mumu!Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth are all of one line of thought regarding you who is not even known outside Nairaland or how to practice what Jesus taught?

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

just your usual cheap nonsense and lies, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw74:

i don't belong to any of those orgs. you mentioned, confused one:

So who are the CHRISTIANS you're defending on Nairaland?
Can you see who is a LIAR now?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:
So who are the CHRISTIANS you're defending on Nairaland?
Can you see who is a LIAR now?
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


oh duh lost false jw mad max

i agree with some things Christians say here, and i don't agree with some things,
gee you so dum, aren't you, confused and blinded one:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw74:

i agree with some things Christians say here, and i don't agree with some things,

Stupid idiot!

Just as Traditionalists, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus agree and disagree on religious topics.
So what makes you guys Christians that are supposed to have the same line of thought on what has to do with FAITH in God? John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

MaxInDHouse:
Stupid idiot!
Just as Traditionalists, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus agree and disagree on religious topics.
So what makes you guys Christians that are supposed to have the same line of thought on what has to do with FAITH in God? John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

confused sewer mouthed gods people

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

lost false jw mad max

you very disturbed, of course.


quote MaxinDHouse

Stupid idiot
Mumu
Oya
Ọmọ

end quote


you gods people love your sewer mouths, don't you,
almost as much as you love your lies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Emusan:

God didn't claim. Stop this nonsense.
God actually created EVERYTHING according to the scripture.
So who actually did it?
Yes! because two DIFFERENT people can't claimed one thing.
Where did I talk about Trinity since our discussion started?
Definitely, you're afraid of something
The question is who actually carried out the activities? This is the question you're still dodging.
Prov 8 that your deluded brother is pointing you to, still shows that it was God Himself carrying out those activities.
No! The scripture described WHO actually carried out the activities.
God says HIS OWN HAND STRETCHED OUT THE HEAVENS,
So Jesus was holding God's hand to stretch out HEAVENS.
Well I'm expecting you quote the scripture.
See how demonic doctrines are destroying your life.
Of course I'm not above learning but you that you have attained the height of learning.
Where did the Son carry out a single creation activity?

I'll spell it out to you for the last time.

God said in OT books that he created everything with his own hands. You've brought verses on that already.

Same God stated at Hebrew 1:10 that his son who's Jesus created them...

Do you know what John, Paul and the writer of Hebrew concluded @ John 1:3, Colossians 1:16 and Hebrew 1:2 respectively?

Their conclusion was that "God created through Christ".

Everyone knows that Dangote produces cement. He can say it anywhere that he does.
He might not even visit the factory for a year and yet cements are being produced day by day.
If Dangote comes and gives credits to the production manager that he produces good cements, does that mean the manager is the real producer or owns the factory? No! He works for Dangote and uses Dangote's resources.
Thus, Dangote is the real producer of the cements.

Same with Christ, Jesus created according to God's instructions and he used God's resources.

God Is The Creator

MaxInDHouse:


The innovation is not his own instructions is from his father: the Grand Creator! John 5:30

So far so good you haven't been able to point out just single thing Jesus created.

This is John 5:30 "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me." - NWT

The above shows this is not about creation but what Jesus did while on Earth. Jesus wasn't doing any judgement in Heaven.

cornelboy:
I'll spell it out to you for the last time.

As you're spelling it out ensure you open that skull too

God said in OT books that he created everything with his own hands. You've brought verses on that already.

Which means God can't lie and different verses shows how God carried out the Creation activities.

Genesis where the first creation activities was recorded shows GOD SPOKE and IT WAS SO! God didn't command another Being.

Same God stated at Hebrew 1:10 that his son who's Jesus created them...

Yes! because They were both God and ONLY God can create. God is not a weak god who is not capable of creating things.

Do you know what John, Paul and the writer of Hebrew concluded @ John 1:3, Colossians 1:16 and Hebrew 1:2 respectively?

Yes! That Jesus is the Creator because without HIM(Jesus) NOT EVEN ONE THING WERE Created.

Their conclusion was that "God created through Christ".

Yes! But Genesis details how God created things by just a command directly to the THINGS CREATED and not to another BEING.

Prov 8 described how God Himself performed the creation work.

Everyone knows that Dangote produces cement. He can say it anywhere that he does.
He might not even visit the factory for a year and yet cements are being produced day by day.
If Dangote comes and gives credits to the production manager that he produces good cements, does that mean the manager is the real producer or owns the factory? No! He works for Dangote and uses Dangote's resources.
Thus, Dangote is the real producer of the cements.

I've thrashed this earlier.

If Dangote comes to and said you see those cement I'm the one who operates all the machines that produce them or there was a report that at the factory of Dangote cement, I saw how he(Dangote) operate the machines that produce the cement.

I guess you'll never doubt that Dangote didn't involve in the production of his cement neither will you conclude that Dangote assigned the work to another person.

Genesis said God issued all command to the things created and this was supported by Psalm 148:3, Rom 4:17, Heb 11:3

Same with Christ, Jesus created according to God's instructions and he used God's resources.

Which resources are you talking about when the scripture says God created the universe from nothing?

Can you provide just a single verse where this Jesus created single thing and the name of resources used?

Prov 8 shows how God carried out this operation.

Stop following the tradition of men and read Scripture for yourself.

God Is The Creator

I'm not disputing that the point so far is that Jesus is the Creator.

Emusan:


So far so good you haven't been able to point out just single thing Jesus created.

This is John 5:30 "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me." - NWT



The above shows this is not about creation but what Jesus did while on Earth. Jesus wasn't doing any judgement in Heaven.

Your own PERSONAL opinion, he did not specify whether heaven or earth he can't do a single thing without orders from his father {John 5:30} otherwise all your quotations that has to do with him must be here on earth himself and his father are one {John 10:30} means he has the same line of thought with his heavenly father not that he is the same as his father! John 17:22

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
you very disturbed, of course.
quote MaxinDHouse
Stupid idiot
Mumu
Oya
Ọmọ
end quote
you gods people love your sewer mouths, don't you,
almost as much as you love your lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Guy stop lying!
If you don't belong to any church then you're not a member of Christendom!

MaxInDHouse:
Your own PERSONAL opinion, he did not specify whether heaven or earth

When you have eyes to read and brain to understand.

It is stated clearly that it was ON EARTH

That's why I do tell you that, the day you can be able to distinguish from the scripture when Jesus became part of creation and when Jesus was not part of creation is the day your deliverance from Watchtower false doctrine begins.

he can't do a single thing without orders from his father {John 5:30}

You're right but only when He became part of the creation.

Then I challenge you to provide a single verse where any order was given to Him at Creation.

otherwise all your quotations that has to do with him must be here on earth himself and his father are one {John 10:30} means he has the same line of thought with his heavenly father not that he is the same as his father! John 17:22

I never said HE IS THE SAME AS HIS FATHER, or do I?

The point is, that statement in John 5:30 was about His mission on earth and there are many of such statement from Jesus in the scripture

Emusan:

I never said HE IS THE SAME AS HIS FATHER, or do I?

Case closed!
Jehovah's Witnesses worship only the father who is God and father of Jesus as well as our God and father:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

MaxInDHouse:
Case closed!

Case did not close because that's not the POV, is it?

Jehovah's Witnesses worship only the father who is God and father of Jesus as well as our God and father:

That's your cup of tea

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Was this the instructions God given to Jesus at creation?

Till now you can't come up with one just verse where Jesus created one thing or where God gave Jesus command for creation.

Emusan:


Case did not close because that's not the POV, is it?



That's your cup of tea



Was this the instructions God given to Jesus at creation?

Till now you can't come up with one just verse where Jesus created one thing or where God gave Jesus command for creation.

Have you forgotten you said Jesus the word will not exist if God did not speak?
"The word (Jesus) is the first thing that came out of God's mouth"
Emusan,Do everything in heaven and earth owe their name to Jesus? (Emusan screenshot),9th August,2013.


Psalms33:6,9
6 By The Word of LORD JEHOVAH the Heavens were made, and all his hosts by The Breath of his mouth.


9Because he spoke and they existed; he commanded and it was established"

Emusan ,What did Jesus create @ Proverbs 8:27 & Psalms 33:6,9?
Emusan WAILER loves MUMU exposure of his poor comprehension skills.

Janosky:

This Emusan loves his MUMU exposure of his poor comprehension skills.

I tell you!

Someone said the father differs from the Son yet he wants to continue arguing blindly.

Ọmọ i don't have time for his nonsense!

MaxInDHouse:


I tell you!

Someone said the father differs from the Son yet he wants to continue arguing blindly.

Ọmọ i don't have time for his nonsense!

Trinity GIBBERISH STOLE his ability to understand the holy scriptures.

Jehovah God explained to Job how He created man,Job38:1-7.
Yet, Trinitarians put their delusion in 3 deities.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy stop lying!
If you don't belong to any church then you're not a member of Christendom!

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



most confused and lost false jw mad max

they don't come any dummer than you false jw's, do they

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


of course The Church/The Body of Christ, are Christians saved by God's Grace, from many denominations and non denominational,
they are certainly not false accusers and habitual liars like u false jw's and the devil are:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:
Trinity GIBBERISH STOLE his ability to understand the holy scriptures.
Jehovah God explained to Job how He created man,Job38:1-7.
Yet, Trinitarians put their delusion in 3 deities.

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

talk about delusion, u r forever loving to blaspheme and call Father and Son and Holy spirit 3 deities/3 gods:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.


Rev 2:2 I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false

Janosky:
Have you forgotten you said Jesus the word will not exist if God did not speak?

I never used the word "EXIST" stop lying for your god.

Emusan,Do everything in heaven and earth owe their name to Jesus? (Emusan screenshot),9th August,2013.

How does this fault my claim?

When you don't know what to say, you begin to beat about the bush

Psalms:6,9
6 By The Word of LORD JEHOVAH the Heavens were made, and all his hosts by The Breath of his mouth.
9Because he spoke and they existed; he commanded and it was established"

That is the Creator Yahweh my God.

Emusan ,What did Jesus create @ Proverbs 8:27 & Psalms 33:6,9?

I've been asking you and your deluded brother this but keep dodging it only for you to turn the question back to me

Your mumu get grade

Emusan WAILER loves MUMU exposure of his poor comprehension skills.[/b]

So shameful that you people couldn't address just a single point of mine but just beating about the bush.

See the great JaNosense who has abandoned his brain in the Hall saying someone lack simple comprehension

MaxInDHouse:
I tell you!

No dey hide always come straight

Someone said the father differs from the Son yet he wants to continue arguing blindly.

Was the Father different from the Son the main point or who Created the Universe?

So far so good you haven't been able to point to a single verse where Jesus created anything.

Ọmọ i don't have time for his nonsense!

The same nonsense time you've been having on this forum for how many years now

Your tactics of running away won't work.

Emusan:


As you're spelling it out ensure you open that skull too



Which means God can't lie and different verses shows how God carried out the Creation activities.

Genesis where the first creation activities was recorded shows GOD SPOKE and IT WAS SO! God didn't command another Being.



Yes! because They were both God and ONLY God can create. God is not a weak god who is not capable of creating things.



Yes! That Jesus is the Creator because without HIM(Jesus) NOT EVEN ONE THING WERE Created.



Yes! But Genesis details how God created things by just a command directly to the THINGS CREATED and not to another BEING.

Prov 8 described how God Himself performed the creation work.



I've thrashed this earlier.

If Dangote comes to and said you see those cement I'm the one who operates all the machines that produce them or there was a report that at the factory of Dangote cement, I saw how he(Dangote) operate the machines that produce the cement.

I guess you'll never doubt that Dangote didn't involve in the production of his cement neither will you conclude that Dangote assigned the work to another person.

Genesis said God issued all command to the things created and this was supported by Psalm 148:3, Rom 4:17, Heb 11:3



Which resources are you talking about when the scripture says God created the universe from nothing?

Can you provide just a single verse where this Jesus created single thing and the name of resources used?

Prov 8 shows how God carried out this operation.

Stop following the tradition of men and read Scripture for yourself.



I'm not disputing that the point so far is that Jesus is the Creator.

Humans create too, so we're Gods and equal to God the Father.

Shalom

cornelboy:
Humans create too, so we're Gods and equal to God the Father.

SMILE....You people will not stop to amaze me

I know it's human (those mini gods in Warwick) that created your brain

I only demanded for just single verse where Jesus created anything for many days now no answer

Shalom

Shalomel!!!