MRbrownJAY:

^^stop trying to fool people into believing that sleeping with another women was wrong in the bible. MANY people in biblical times had concubines and mistresses (some like King David had 100s) and it was ALL OK IN THE EYES OF GOD, so long as these women were not MARRIED!!!!

get your facts right!

MRbrownJAY:


as for my claim, i repeat:"many in biblical times had multiple mistresses and GOD never looked down on them or call them sinners" so if its ok for them then it sure is ok for US ALL!

Adeniki:

It's between them and God, who knows the details of their spiritual walk? But they had many problems when several partners involved, not prosperity, and often problems between them and God. Would also refer you to Deut 17:17.

Waiting on your reference Open minded to changing my views should the Bible support it

MRbrownJAY:

^^the question has never been if it was IDEAL or not BUT IS IT A SIN OR NOT?!
let each and everyone decide what is ideal for them.

as for my claim, i repeat:"many in biblical times had multiple mistresses and GOD never looked down on them or call them sinners" so if its ok for them then it sure is ok for US ALL!

rabzy:

Among the Hebrews a concubine occupied a position in the nature of a secondary wife and was sometimes spoken of as a wife. It appears that concubines were slave girls, one of three kinds: (1) a Hebrew girl sold by her father (Ex 21:7-9), (2) a foreign slave girl purchased, or (3) a foreign girl captured in warfare (De 21:10-14). Some were the slave girls or handmaids of the free wife, as in the cases of Sarah, Leah, and Rachel.—Ge 16:3, 4; 30:3-13; Jg 8:31; 9:18.
Concubinage was in existence before the Law covenant and was recognized and regulated by the Law, which protected the rights of both wives and concubines. (Ex 21:7-11; De 21:14-17) Concubines did not have all the rights in the household that the regular wife had, and a man might have a plurality of wives along with concubines. (1Ki 11:3; 2Ch 11:21) In cases where the wife was barren, she sometimes gave her handmaid to the husband as a concubine, and the child born of the concubine would then be considered as the child of the free wife, her mistress. (Ge 16:2; 30:3) Sons of concubines were legitimate and could inherit.—Ge 49:16-21

So concubines were not just girls they see and just Be Intimate, they were more or less wives with a secondary status, there must be a sort of handover or something to show that you have the legal right to have her.

rabzy:

There were some things that were permitted by God, not because he wants it that way, but he simply allowed it for some time, but when Jesus came he made it cleared that was not the way it was meant to be and so it is vey wrong for christians, all those David, Solomon examples don't appy.

romsky:

Rokiatu durlyn

MRbrownJAY:

so what you are actually saying is that concubines and mistresses were allowed BUT that they didnt have the same rights as wives?!
yes, having ONE wife only was the "norm" but there was surely nothing wrong with a worthy man of having either multiple wives or mistresses.

here is something for you to consider from the mouth of Jesus himself:
Matthew 5:17-18 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (aka the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (aka the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished."

from this 2 verses we can clearly understand that what YOU are claiming is a product of your imagination!

1 Corinthians 7:36
New International Version (NIV)


36 If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong[a] and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married.

exodus 22 16

16 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

Now Dinah, the daughter Leah had borne to Jacob, went out to visit the women of the land. 2 When Shechem son of Hamor the Hivite, the ruler of that area, saw her, he took her and r.aped her. 3 His heart was drawn to Dinah daughter of Jacob; he loved the young woman and spoke tenderly to her. 4 And Shechem said to his father Hamor, “Get me this girl as my wife.”
5 When Jacob heard that his daughter Dinah had been defiled, his sons were in the fields with his livestock; so he did nothing about it until they came home.

. . .

30 Then Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, “You have brought trouble on me by making me obnoxious to the Canaanites and Perizzites, the people living in this land. We are few in number, and if they join forces against me and attack me, I and my household will be destroyed.”

31 But they replied, “Should he have treated our sister like a p.rostitute?”

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
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28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r.apes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has r.aped her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.