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Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by sadyeek(m): 8:59pm On Aug 03, 2011
he Koran is the word of deluded men that stole the stories of the ancient Jews and Christians. . . .Nothing in it can not be written by people living at that time. . .Beside the lying claims of those that wrote the Koran and invented the Islamic religion what evidence do you have to show that any God personally revealed his word in Arabic to any Arab tribe?. . . . .The God that created the universe decided to reveal his word to mankind using the Arabic language, eh?. . .Clap for yourself. . .
This is perfect for you and anybody who doesn't believe in God.
Just have the paitience and listen to it, open heartedly, The answers to thoes questions are in it, the link below,

http://www.kalamullah.com/Sheikh%20Feiz/Ramadan/sheikh_feiz_-_ramadan_-_cd_02_of_04.mp3





May Allah reward us for that which we have said that is right and forgive us for that which we have made mistakes.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by dorox(m): 9:06pm On Aug 03, 2011
IMHO I think that the concept of hell fire is not compatible with a Just God. How can somebody live for 70 to 80 year and be subjected to an eternity of fiery torture? I don't believe that there is hellfire, but if i did it would be a wicked thing for me to have kids knowing that there is that chance no matter how remote that one or all of them might be sentenced to hell.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by groovie(m): 9:20pm On Aug 03, 2011
@ people who do not believe IGNORANCE IS NOT GOIN TO BE AN EXCUSE.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by atasteve: 9:38pm On Aug 03, 2011
Re:20:15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

We obey God because we love him and not because of hell.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by dorox(m): 9:42pm On Aug 03, 2011
atasteve:
Re:20:15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

We obey God because we love him and not because of hell.
I believe the same Revelations you are quoting from also calls it the second death.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by DonnyT: 10:42pm On Aug 03, 2011
@ Dorox

I love your comment, very funny though. It is a shame that Nigerians are one of the most religious people on the planet, and yet our land languish in sorrow, poverty and all sorts of barbaric activities of mankind. I fear a lot of non-secular people didn't even bother to educate themselves on how their religion started. I bet you sacred people point fingers and call some organization cultic, look inward to the history of most religion, I bet you will be surprised. Bible already told you a deciphering fact for the wise, "PEOPLE PERISH BECAUSE THEY LACK KNOWLEDGE."
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by trimwis: 10:55pm On Aug 03, 2011
hell is afraid of Nigerian, our condition is worse than the imaginary hell
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by behonest(m): 3:09am On Aug 04, 2011
Remember as a kid your Parents threaten you with Hell if you do anything wrong and in most cases it worked but as you got older you didn't believe it entirely and then you learned later in life that its just a Story to try to stop you as kid from doing the wrong thing, now that you are grown up and you have been Educated and read all there is about religion and how it s been used to control the minds of many for millions of years. Just look at all the different Views of the one thing they call God, which I believe is and Imaginary Person for grown ups, just as Fairy's are to kids when they loose a tooth. I read how People in 3rd World Country's pray to God for help but you must remember if you want some thing done by an imaginary person it will never happen, you have to do it yourself.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by ceasyc(f): 3:46am On Aug 04, 2011
trimwis:
hell is afraid of Nigerian, our condition is worse than the imaginary hell
thank u jare. i fear 9ja/dis world more cos i've seen some horrendous shyt/pple in my lifetime

and i never even tey 4 dis world = SCARY SHYTY WORLD. does hell really exist? i neva go hell or seen

any1 who said they've seen or been there literally so i dont know wot its like, so y fear it? dats my opinion tho
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by elliottibanga(m): 8:49am On Aug 04, 2011
The fear of hell or the lack of fear of hell is irrelevant. In my opinion hell is a redundant issue as it has no rational or tangible effect on human existence.

Whether it's real or not is a theological - Scientific argument.

People should live their lives to the fullest, impacting positively on the lives of others with love, kindness, equity and plain old common sense! cool
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by Jenwitemi(m): 8:56am On Aug 04, 2011
- Do you fear hell ? - NO. Fear is for losers.

- How much so ? - None so.

- Do you base your moral actions on this fear of eternal torment ? - No. I base my moral actions and decisionmakings on what i see as right and fair, meaning that everything comes from within me and not without.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by Sike(m): 9:31am On Aug 04, 2011
Me no fear cuz no be my way.Me no fear cuz no be my way.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by kindla(f): 10:42am On Aug 04, 2011
it does not exist @poster how can u be afraid of what does not
exist
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by EfeEkarume(m): 2:05pm On Aug 04, 2011
I don't fear hell. I see hell as the 12th letter of the alphabet and not as a burning furnace.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by grandstar(m): 2:37pm On Aug 04, 2011
Hell as a place of torment is not real.

God told our first parents who should be the greatest of all sinners since they were perfect that their punishment was death (Genesis 3:1()

Remember when Jehovah created the earth, everything he saw was good! There was nothing called hell.

The word hell is a mistranslation of some bible words such as hades which in Greek language means grave and also Gehenna which was a rubbish dump outside Jerusalem which tey used sulfur to burn rubbish.

The king james translation always translated this as Hell which is wrong.

God is love. the wages sin pays is death! Also read 1 Thess 1:8,9

The Lake of Fire means the second death. Death is the opposite of life(Eccl 9:5). The lake of fire stands for everlasting destruction. There is no resurrection for those in the Lake of Fire.

To learn more visit www.watchtower.org and search for hellfire.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by UyiIredia(op): 3:24pm On Aug 04, 2011
kindla:
it does not exist @poster how can u be afraid of what does not
exist
the 'problem' is this: I believe hell exists.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by mazaje(m): 3:31pm On Aug 04, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
the 'problem' is this: I believe hell exists.
You believe it exist because you have evidence of its existence or because of indoctrination?
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by thehomer: 3:46pm On Aug 04, 2011
From the posts on this thread, it has become clear that the concept of hell is having the expected effect. We have people expressing a confident fear of an unknown place based on poor and contradictory information. Just take the time and think for a minute.

Where is God? He used to be in the sky (which is why Jesus ascended into the sky) but he has lately emigrated to someplace outside the universe where he cannot be touched. I guess that is where Jesus with his physical body is moving to (despite the fact that a physical body cannot get to the "edge" of the universe to make it out).

Where is the Devil? He used to live in the ground but now that we've discovered that the earth is approximately spherical, he too has migrated out of there to some undisclosed location along with his hell.

I just wonder how long it will take for these hell believers to realize certain facts about the universe?
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by Eowen: 4:21pm On Aug 04, 2011
To be realistic, the word "HELL" simply means GRAVE, PIT e.t.c and the hebrew word is spelt SHEOL and the greek word HADES. So if you ask does Hell exist? The answer is yes it exist bur it is not a place where fire burns for eternity it just means MANKIND COMMON GRAVE.
Am open for questions, comments,
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by Nobody: 4:44pm On Aug 04, 2011
mazaje:
You believe it exist because you have evidence of its existence or because of indoctrination?
He has evidence. Convenant University took them on a field trip to hell.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Aug 04, 2011
thehomer:
From the posts on this thread, it has become clear that the concept of hell is having the expected effect. We have people expressing a confident fear of an unknown place based on poor and contradictory information. Just take the time and think for a minute.

Where is God? He used to be in the sky (which is why Jesus ascended into the sky) but he has lately emigrated to someplace outside the universe where he cannot be touched. I guess that is where Jesus with his physical body is moving to (despite the fact that a physical body cannot get to the "edge" of the universe to make it out).

Where is the Devil? He used to live in the ground but now that we've discovered that the earth is approximately spherical, he too has migrated out of there to some undisclosed location along with his hell.

I just wonder how long it will take for these hell believers to realize certain facts about the universe?
Wrong Homer!! He is still around, he's just invisible. As for the devil, he still goes around possessing random Christians. Exorcisms are real after all.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by UyiIredia(op): 6:05pm On Aug 04, 2011
mazaje:
You believe it exist because you have evidence of its existence or because of indoctrination?
because of indoctrination (and a bit of musing upon it)

thehomer:
From the posts on this thread, it has become clear that the concept of hell is having the expected effect. We have people expressing a confident fear of an unknown place based on poor and contradictory information. Just take the time and think for a minute.

Where is God? He used to be in the sky (which is why Jesus ascended into the sky) but he has lately emigrated to someplace outside the universe where he cannot be touched. I guess that is where Jesus with his physical body is moving to (despite the fact that a physical body cannot get to the "edge" of the universe to make it out).

Where is the Devil? He used to live in the ground but now that we've discovered that the earth is approximately spherical, he too has migrated out of there to some undisclosed location along with his hell.

I just wonder how long it will take for these hell believers to realize certain facts about the universe?
We aren't talking about the universe. We are talking about an aspect of a transcendental reality. Get that clear


Martian:
He has evidence. Convenant University took them on a field trip to hell.
I hope this helps you sleep better this night undecided
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by NatGas(m): 6:10pm On Aug 04, 2011
Hell is real,Heaven is real-make your choice.
I fear Hell.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by mazaje(m): 7:14pm On Aug 04, 2011
thehomer:
From the posts on this thread, it has become clear that the concept of hell is having the expected effect. We have people expressing a confident fear of an unknown place based on poor and contradictory information. Just take the time and think for a minute.

Where is God? He used to be in the sky (which is why Jesus ascended into the sky) but he has lately emigrated to someplace outside the universe where he cannot be touched. I guess that is where Jesus with his physical body is moving to (despite the fact that a physical body cannot get to the "edge" of the universe to make it out).

Where is the Devil? He used to live in the ground but now that we've discovered that the earth is approximately spherical, he too has migrated out of there to some undisclosed location along with his hell.

I just wonder how long it will take for these hell believers to realize certain facts about the universe?
To "defend" their God, they define him as a hide and seek god, indistinguishable from one who is not there. . . .To defend the mythical heaven and hell they define the places indistinguishable from places that are not there. . .
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by UyiIredia(op): 8:07pm On Aug 04, 2011
mazaje:
To "defend" their God, they define him as a hide and seek god, indistinguishable from one who is not there. . . .To defend the mythical heaven and hell they define the places indistinguishable from places that are not there. . .
this is the problem of skepticism . . . . I doubt you would be convinced even if God came down as Superman to work wonders before you. Same thing in the Bible, raising Lazarus from the dead did not convince the Sadducees of Jesus' time (who did not believe in any afterlife) talkless of you.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by mazaje(m): 9:02pm On Aug 04, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
this is the problem of skepticism . . . . I doubt you would be convinced even if God came down as Superman to work wonders before you. Same thing in the Bible, raising Lazarus from the dead did not convince the Sadducees of Jesus' time (who did not believe in any afterlife) talkless of you.
How do you know that Lazarus was truly raised from the dead? Did any Sadducee write anything down stating that he saw Lazarus being raised from the dead or do you just accept the stories of the writers of the gospels who are unknown? According to the hadith, the prophet of Islam once divided the moon into two halves and made it bow down to him. . . .Many people saw it and they accepted Islam as a result and some didn't. . . .Age long stories that have no evidence do not mean anything to me. . . . .If you God can appear to me and act like a super man why wont I believe? He doesn't even need to come to earth he can do what Mohammed the prophet of Islam did. . .
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by trimwis: 9:09pm On Aug 04, 2011
Hell is the major tool some SCAMMERS that call themselves pastors use on their members grin grin grin grin
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by thehomer: 8:23am On Aug 05, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
because of indoctrination (and a bit of musing upon it)
Indoctrination is a poor way of acquiring knowledge. This means the information you were indoctrinated with is no better than that another also acquired by indoctrination.

Uyi Iredia:
We aren't talking about the universe. We are talking about an aspect of a transcendental reality. Get that clear
. . . .
What other transcendental places do you know? How about Valhalla? What is a transcendental reality? And is that where God stays?
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by thehomer: 8:26am On Aug 05, 2011
Martian:
Wrong Homer!! He is still around, he's just invisible. As for the devil, he still goes around possessing random Christians. Exorcisms are real after all.
He's invisible? I see you're not up to the latest in theology. wink
If he were just invisible, he probably would have been detected as heat at some level. According to the latest theology, he is "outside" the universe and controls things that happen within the universe except of course human will. The devil? Well the theology around him is not quite clear.
Re: Do You Fear Hell ? by muyiwa3: 8:27am On Aug 05, 2011
God is merciful. to believe in hell is to believe He is wicked. i believe in heaven but i dont think hell exist. believers will make heave6 but unbelievers will die and cease to exist. i think d whole idea of eternally  burning hell is as a result of mistakes when translating the bible from its original language into english
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