Yes and they dug your country into this hole and yes the Fulani made them slaves took their lands and pillage their communities day in day out.rape their women and turn thier kids to orphans. let them go and use the intellect and save their own people who are been slaughtered and ravaged by minority clans
You are no different than Obi, dull, liar, dramatic, intolerant.
Kanuri had never been conquered by fulani. Terrorism ravaged their homeland, not fulani banditry. Learn and speak like Shettima, brilliantly.
Point is…YOU are not in a position to engage in a serious and meaningful discussion of the personality of Senator Tinubu since you admitted not knowing his antecedents or his contributions since he went into politics. I’m afraid it’ll be like going back to teach in kindergarten. Total waste of time!!
The subject is on Tinubu but in response to my question about Tinubu, you said "I only engage in serious, meaningful and purposeful discussions….". Meaning that Tinubu is not a serious, meaningful and purposeful discussion that you can engage in.
Where did I admit to anything? Can you show me the admittance? It is actually you who admitted to not knowing anything about Tinubus antecedents and contributions in politics cos when i asked you "Who are his mentees that are making huge strides in all parts of the country"?
Your response was "...ask someone that knows the antecedents of Tinubu since he joined politics in the early 1990s."
By your comment above, it shows that it's either what you are saying about Tinubu is totally false or you have no idea about the claims you are making about Tinubu. But since you say you aren't in kindergarten, help us out one more time...
Who are the "soooo many others"?
These people you mentioned, how have they moved Nigeria forward?
Indeed. A shame some cannot even use common intelligence God gave us all. Buhari did this with Osinbajo who was virtually unknown in 2014.
Once Osinbajo began speaking , on the campaign trail and on public stages , his eloquence and knowledge wowed so many and won Buhari a lot of fans. Especially in the SW where Buhari went on to win 5 out of 6 States in 2015 whereas he had never won a single SW State in all his previous attempt before 2015.
It is all politics. Tinubu chose a brilliant and knowledgeable orator who is also a popular, proven and visible leader in the North as a vote-winning strategy.
Now the main reason many of us support Tinubu, i.e his ability to spot and elevate brilliance of others, is being proven to some live and in 3D.
The subject is on Tinubu but in response to my question about Tinubu, you said "I only engage in serious, meaningful and purposeful discussions….". Meaning that Tinubu is not a serious, meaningful and purposeful discussion that you can engage in.
Where did I admit to anything? Can you show me the admittance? It is actually you who admitted to not knowing anything about Tinubus antecedents and contributions in politics cos when i asked you "Who are his mentees that are making huge strides in all parts of the country"?
Your response was "...ask someone that knows the antecedents of Tinubu since he joined politics in the early 1990s."
By your comment above, it shows that it's either what you are saying about Tinubu is totally false or you have no idea about the claims you are making about Tinubu. But since you say you aren't in kindergarten, help us out one more time...
Who are the "soooo many others"?
These people you mentioned, how have they moved Nigeria forward?
Indeed. A shame some cannot even use common intelligence God gave us all. Buhari did this with Osinbajo who was virtually unknown in 2014.
Once Osinbajo began speaking , on the campaign trail and on public stages , his eloquence and knowledge wowed so many and won Buhari a lot of fans. Especially in the SW where Buhari went on to win 5 out of 6 States in 2015 whereas he had never won a single SW State in all his previous attempt before 2015.
It is all politics. Tinubu chose a brilliant and knowledgeable orator who is also a popular, proven and visible leader in the North as a vote-winning strategy.
Now the main reason many of us support Tinubu, i.e his ability to spot and elevate brilliance of others, is being proven to some live and in 3D.
If "Tinubu chose a brilliant and knowledgeable orator who is also a popular, proven and visible leader in the North as a vote-winning strategy", how has this combination moved Nigeria forward since 2015?
Niklaus398: what is the importance of the intelligence to us Nigerians if he is on death bed or sickbed? U dey think so?.
Yaradua when he was on sickbed, what was his importance to us?...use your head oga.
There is a saying " A living dog is better than a dead lion". That's the case between Obi and Tinubu. Obi is the living dog, Tinubu is the dead lion.
LoLz, you should be old and wise enough by now to know that man's life is not in his hand. That you are 50years younger and fit than someone is no guarantee that you can't die before that person.
Try something new you said , we can all vote for sowore then and not a former pdp member or a former governor of a state who can't use the state he govern to campaign for himself ... it's shameful
Shy can't Shettima use the state he govern to campaign??
Bat achieve a lot for Lagos, but no one mention 2 or 3 of his achievement in lagos
Start thinking like brilliant Shettima, so you don't sound like Obi when you are given a figure of speech.
nope. I rather think like Obi than like a Boko Haram member. All they know how to do is kill and destroy.
You support Tinubu cause he is Yoruba simple. You haven't ever supported anyone that isn't your tribe or religion or who Tinubu is not supporting. . u're a failure. Your education is a failure cause you refused to see beyond petty sentiments. Beyond Tribalism, religion and your stomach.
I am just want toake my arsertion clear that obi is a political fraudster...nteust him at your own peril
But you might end up being the fraudster because those pictures you posted associating obi with destruction of a mosque are false. The mosque in the pix isn't even in Nigeria.
This comment got me rolling on the floor. Imagine the lousy ignorance.
You’re just an ignorant fellow.
First professor of Mathematics, Physics, Economics, Statistics, Medicine, History, etc were all Igbos. These were renowned professors. Mention one Kanuri son that is worthy to lace the shoes of Late Professor Chike Obi the first professor of Mathematics
[quote author=fredoooooo post=115967697]Honourable kasim shettima at the NBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eRSte3vxVw[/quote But this idiots was among the animals who said Lagos can't be reckoned with in terms of population compared with Kano. Why is he now shouting Lagos, Lagos, Lagos n Lagos? D same structured lies that Tinubu n d deaf and dump told us is resurfacing in another direction. APC coming into government again will amount to nothing but tsunamis. God forbid affliction again,amen.
Let me make this clear from the outset. I am a member of the APC and a supporter of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu.
This contribution does not in any way derogate from that and my analysis is more of an academic and intellectual exercise than anything else.
I am NOT a supporter of Peter Obi and I have NO intention of becoming one. I am however interested on what his supporters represent and stand for and that is the subject of this essay.
They are worthy of my attention only because their rise and relevance in the political configuration of our nation, just in a matter of weeks, is meteoric and phenomenal.
In order to counter and defeat them or to keep them in their place we must at least attempt to understand them and figure out how their minds work.
The following are my findings.
Those that are the supporters of Peter Obi, the Labour Party presidential candidate, are known as 'Obidients' and they are EVERYWHERE.
Those of us in the larger political parties like the ruling APC and the opposition PDP, treat them with contempt and ignore them at our own peril.
The truth is that they are far more dangerous to our collective cause as a ruling class than many of us can possibly conceive or appreciate.
Only the discerning can appreciate this and know precisely where this whole thing may be heading.
They may not have structures or elected representatives in the legislative and executive arms of Government but they have IDEAS and VISION coupled with a clear ideological and philosophical bent which can and will endure for far longer than mere political platforms and structures.
Unknown to them as well as virtually everyone else, therein lies their power. As they say, an idea whose time has come cannot be stopped.
Long after we are all gone they will still be here because structures and political alliances rarely endure but IDEAS and VISION last forever.
Again they will outlive and outlast us all because they are not a political party in the true sense of the word but rather a growing national movement which scales and spreads across ethnic, religious, political and regional lines and traditional boundaries.
They also represent a generational and paradigm shift which is increasingly attractive to many and they are bound tightly together by a common purpose, common cause and common objective: namely to rid Nigeria of the old order and usher in the new.
That is really what they want to do and that is the primary and strongest source of their inspiration and motivation.
They are far more dangerous to what the French describe as the 'Ancien Regime', the old political class and the entire system itself than anything we have ever seen before because most of them, bar their leader and a small handful of political tried and tested veterans and old war horses around him, are NOT politicians and have never ventured anywhere near the political arena or the circles of power.
In the main they are an innovatively aggressive and frightful array and association of angry and determined young men and women who clearly have the courage of their convictions coupled with the audacity, fury, daring, rage and firm resolve of those that were involved in the Endsars protesters and the fiery footsoldiers that effected the 1917 Russian Bolshevik revolution led by Vladimir Iliyich Lenin.
There is also something Rawlingesque and intimidating about them.
That is to say they are like the late, great and mighty son of Africa and leader of Ghana, President Jerry Rawlings, who also led a successful revolution in his country in 1979 and who, on his second coming in 1981 when he toppled yet another Government said, "if there is no justice there can be no peace!"
That is the spirit that is in the Obidients and that is what moves them.
Yet though they do not like to hear it their chances of winning the presidential election next year, short of a miracle, are very slim and deep down they all know it even if they refuse to publicly acknowledge it.
Despite that they are determined to fight to the end, hope for the best, work hard and give it their best shot and, of course, therein lies their victory.
In this game courage is the key. As they say, 'he who dares wins'. Again as they say, 'fortune favours the bold' and these young people are both daring and bold.
That they can challenge the status quo and vie for the sacred and awesome power that has been shared by the two major political parties or their ancestral variants over the last 62 years is commendable in itself. I am not part of them but I certainly commend and applaud their efforts.
They too have a right to fight for their rights and future and to be heard. They too have a dream and a story to tell and we must never begrudge them that.
Yet if the truth be told they are not only interested in winning an election but, perhaps even more importantly, they are interested in making a profound and defiant statement, registering their protest against the status qou and the powers that be and triggering and engendering a full scale, comprehensive and all-embracing social, cultural and political revolution.
They want a real and fundamental change and not a fake one. They want to pull the whole house and system down with everyone in it and rebuild a new one in their own image, with their own values and on their own terms.
Most important of all they want to see the back of those of us that are in any way associated with the old order or that have been in Government or the corridors of power at ANY point in time over the last 62 years.
That desire and sentiment is the force that is driving and propelling them and that is kindling their fire and swelling their ranks.
They are like the Robspiers and the Marats of the bloody French revolution between 1789 and 1799 whose battle cry was "liberty, equality and fraternity", who brought an end to the French monarchy, Royal family and nobility, chopped off their heads and established a proud and strong new order and proud Republic.
Like Robspier's tiny cabal of French revolutionaries they are led by a small cell of intellectual and idealistic hardliners and are bolstered, girded and supported by a volatile, massive and increasingly dangerous support group and power base who threaten violence and hurl insults at their perceived detractors at the drop of a hat and as a consequence of years of pent up anger and frustration.
If they ever get power many heads will role and many of today's and yesterday's leaders will run into exile or go into hiding.
This is especially so of those who have something to hide or who have skeletons in their cupboards.
That is what makes them so threatening and I repeat, those of us that are in the larger political parties or that are members of the existing and ancient ruling class underestimate them, ignore them and display disdain for their firm resolve and rising anger at our own peril.
Most of my political associates, friends and colleagues across party lines tend to dismiss them with contempt.
They regard them as being inconsequential and argue that they only exist on social media. I beg to differ. I see them in the streets and I see them in the Churches.
I see them amongst my staff and amongst those that regard themselves as being amongst the oppressed and downtrodden.i see them amongst the professionals and those thst are bankers, lawyers, doctors and artists.
I see them in the North, West, East and South. I see them everywhere and not only on social media.
I see them as being a very powerful and potent rising force which, if properly managed, will develop into a major political power over the next few years with a strong ideological and electoral foundation and massive structures.
That is the potential that they have and that is how dangerous they can be.
The sooner those of us that are in the larger political parties get off our high horses, display a little humility, try and understand their mindset, reach out to them, take them more seriously, appreciate their anger, restore their hope, make the necessary concessions and try and abate their rage and rising angst the better it will be for us all.
They may not have today but if we do not play our cards right they may end up having tomorrow.
Let me make this clear from the outset. I am a member of the APC and a supporter of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu.
This contribution does not in any way derogate from that and my analysis is more of an academic and intellectual exercise than anything else.
I am NOT a supporter of Peter Obi and I have NO intention of becoming one. I am however interested on what his supporters represent and stand for and that is the subject of this essay.
They are worthy of my attention only because their rise and relevance in the political configuration of our nation, just in a matter of weeks, is meteoric and phenomenal.
In order to counter and defeat them or to keep them in their place we must at least attempt to understand them and figure out how their minds work.
The following are my findings.
Those that are the supporters of Peter Obi, the Labour Party presidential candidate, are known as 'Obidients' and they are EVERYWHERE.
Those of us in the larger political parties like the ruling APC and the opposition PDP, treat them with contempt and ignore them at our own peril.
The truth is that they are far more dangerous to our collective cause as a ruling class than many of us can possibly conceive or appreciate.
Only the discerning can appreciate this and know precisely where this whole thing may be heading.
They may not have structures or elected representatives in the legislative and executive arms of Government but they have IDEAS and VISION coupled with a clear ideological and philosophical bent which can and will endure for far longer than mere political platforms and structures.
Unknown to them as well as virtually everyone else, therein lies their power. As they say, an idea whose time has come cannot be stopped.
Long after we are all gone they will still be here because structures and political alliances rarely endure but IDEAS and VISION last forever.
Again they will outlive and outlast us all because they are not a political party in the true sense of the word but rather a growing national movement which scales and spreads across ethnic, religious, political and regional lines and traditional boundaries.
They also represent a generational and paradigm shift which is increasingly attractive to many and they are bound tightly together by a common purpose, common cause and common objective: namely to rid Nigeria of the old order and usher in the new.
That is really what they want to do and that is the primary and strongest source of their inspiration and motivation.
They are far more dangerous to what the French describe as the 'Ancien Regime', the old political class and the entire system itself than anything we have ever seen before because most of them, bar their leader and a small handful of political tried and tested veterans and old war horses around him, are NOT politicians and have never ventured anywhere near the political arena or the circles of power.
In the main they are an innovatively aggressive and frightful array and association of angry and determined young men and women who clearly have the courage of their convictions coupled with the audacity, fury, daring, rage and firm resolve of those that were involved in the Endsars protesters and the fiery footsoldiers that effected the 1917 Russian Bolshevik revolution led by Vladimir Iliyich Lenin.
There is also something Rawlingesque and intimidating about them.
That is to say they are like the late, great and mighty son of Africa and leader of Ghana, President Jerry Rawlings, who also led a successful revolution in his country in 1979 and who, on his second coming in 1981 when he toppled yet another Government said, "if there is no justice there can be no peace!"
That is the spirit that is in the Obidients and that is what moves them.
Yet though they do not like to hear it their chances of winning the presidential election next year, short of a miracle, are very slim and deep down they all know it even if they refuse to publicly acknowledge it.
Despite that they are determined to fight to the end, hope for the best, work hard and give it their best shot and, of course, therein lies their victory.
In this game courage is the key. As they say, 'he who dares wins'. Again as they say, 'fortune favours the bold' and these young people are both daring and bold.
That they can challenge the status quo and vie for the sacred and awesome power that has been shared by the two major political parties or their ancestral variants over the last 62 years is commendable in itself. I am not part of them but I certainly commend and applaud their efforts.
They too have a right to fight for their rights and future and to be heard. They too have a dream and a story to tell and we must never begrudge them that.
Yet if the truth be told they are not only interested in winning an election but, perhaps even more importantly, they are interested in making a profound and defiant statement, registering their protest against the status qou and the powers that be and triggering and engendering a full scale, comprehensive and all-embracing social, cultural and political revolution.
They want a real and fundamental change and not a fake one. They want to pull the whole house and system down with everyone in it and rebuild a new one in their own image, with their own values and on their own terms.
Most important of all they want to see the back of those of us that are in any way associated with the old order or that have been in Government or the corridors of power at ANY point in time over the last 62 years.
That desire and sentiment is the force that is driving and propelling them and that is kindling their fire and swelling their ranks.
They are like the Robspiers and the Marats of the bloody French revolution between 1789 and 1799 whose battle cry was "liberty, equality and fraternity", who brought an end to the French monarchy, Royal family and nobility, chopped off their heads and established a proud and strong new order and proud Republic.
Like Robspier's tiny cabal of French revolutionaries they are led by a small cell of intellectual and idealistic hardliners and are bolstered, girded and supported by a volatile, massive and increasingly dangerous support group and power base who threaten violence and hurl insults at their perceived detractors at the drop of a hat and as a consequence of years of pent up anger and frustration.
If they ever get power many heads will role and many of today's and yesterday's leaders will run into exile or go into hiding.
This is especially so of those who have something to hide or who have skeletons in their cupboards.
That is what makes them so threatening and I repeat, those of us that are in the larger political parties or that are members of the existing and ancient ruling class underestimate them, ignore them and display disdain for their firm resolve and rising anger at our own peril.
Most of my political associates, friends and colleagues across party lines tend to dismiss them with contempt.
They regard them as being inconsequential and argue that they only exist on social media. I beg to differ. I see them in the streets and I see them in the Churches.
I see them amongst my staff and amongst those that regard themselves as being amongst the oppressed and downtrodden.i see them amongst the professionals and those thst are bankers, lawyers, doctors and artists.
I see them in the North, West, East and South. I see them everywhere and not only on social media.
I see them as being a very powerful and potent rising force which, if properly managed, will develop into a major political power over the next few years with a strong ideological and electoral foundation and massive structures.
That is the potential that they have and that is how dangerous they can be.
The sooner those of us that are in the larger political parties get off our high horses, display a little humility, try and understand their mindset, reach out to them, take them more seriously, appreciate their anger, restore their hope, make the necessary concessions and try and abate their rage and rising angst the better it will be for us all.
They may not have today but if we do not play our cards right they may end up having tomorrow.
May God help us all.
Obidients are Bush babies ... crying and wailing is all they do .. they cry to achieve goals and they never achieve these goals simply because their foundations are based on lies....
Obidients are Bush babies ... crying and wailing is all they do .. they cry to achieve goals and they never achieve these goals simply because their foundations are based on lies....
