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Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 7:12pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
OkCornel:1. Nope 2. Nope According to Jesus Christ, by the account of two or three witnesses shall truth be established. The analogy used by the writer of the letter to the believers of Hebrew descent is just that, an analogy and not meant to be taken literally, since many of the claims made in his analogy have no corroborations found anywhere else in scripture. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 8:05pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Then the author of the book of Hebrews lied Melchizedek is a Priest of the most high God forever right? |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 8:10pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Have you suddenly forgotten your response to my question on Revelation 5? See the screenshot below.
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Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 8:15pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
OkCornel:Is an analogy a lie? This is why it is important to pay attention to what is in fact declared in other parts of scripture so one is not easily carried away by what is declared in the epistles for instance. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 8:16pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
OkCornel:Oh, I actually thought that was a repeat of Revelations 7 there when I responded. Well, I see that the answer I gave to you earlier does in fact fit. So, yeah!. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by AllenforGOD(m): 8:24pm On Sep 08, 2022 |
paxonel:bro wht was the cause of her death and give me descriptions pls<full stop> plus,it was written that God would judge the queen of the perhaps,west,east,north,south.u are precise<full stop> |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by paxonel(m): 2:00am On Sep 09, 2022 |
AllenforGOD:it doesn't matter how she died, death is inevitable, but eternal life after death is paramount. 1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? what do you mean by Queen of the west, east, north and south and where was that written? |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 6:09am On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Your question on analogy does not make sense. Is like asking for the analogy of “Satan is the father of all liars”. Now that being said; Is Melchizedek the priest of the Most High God “FOREVER” as Hebrews 7 v 1-3 clearly states? You’ve agreed Melchizedek is not an Israelite. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 6:14am On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: It does not fit. Revelation 5 v 9-10 states everyone redeemed by the blood of the lamb would be priests. Take a stand and be clear; a) Are these people in Revelation 5 v 9-10 only Israelites? b) Are all these people redeemed by the blood of the lamb going to be priests forever in God’s kingdom? Revelation 5 v 9-10 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by sonmvayina(m): 10:22am On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel: You people are mixing Judaism with Christianity.. That is the problem with both of you... They are two separate religion. There is no jesus in Judaism. .. Please... |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 10:30am On Sep 09, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Sorry, God does not do religion. Religion is a man made construct. What we are discussing here transcends religion |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by sonmvayina(m): 12:20pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel: Judaism reference only the creator of heaven and earth. And he is not a man or human being. Christianity on the other hand is about a man that was crucified.... Two different ideologies.. That is my point. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 12:23pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Who said God the Father is Jesus Christ? Did Jesus Christ say he is God the Father? Can you show me where in the scriptures Jesus said so? |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 3:53pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:1. It makes sense since the story presented by the writer of the letter to the Hebrews is an analogy used to explain to Israelites the place of Jesus Christ over them as Messiah. The facts however speak for themselves. Melchizedek was not an Israelite, though he was a priest and a king in a land in Canaan called Salem. And so had no part or place in God's Covenant with Israel. 2. Satan as the father of all liars isn't really an analogy. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 3:57pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: So you are telling us Melchizedek is not a priest of the most high God FOREVER, despite what is clearly written in Hebrews 7 v 1-3; Hebrews 7 v 1-3; 1. This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, 2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” 3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever. Kobojunkie, who was Hebrews 7 v 3 referring to? |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 4:09pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:b) For the umpteenth time, the promise that God made to the people of Israel is that He would make them to be a Kingdom and to be priests for God and that they would rule on the earth - Exodus 19 vs 1 - 6 & Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Psalm 2 vs 8 - 12. In Isaiah 66, you learned that God would used saved People to bring brothers and sisters of Israelites from all tongues, tribes and nations back to Jerusalem where they will serve God and with them will be brought back the wealth of every other nation. And this will happen when Jerusalem is called the Holy city of God. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 4:12pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:I already explained to you that the story told by the writer of the letter to the Hebrews has no place in this discussion whatsoever given that the account can not be corroborated and hence is best treated as the analogy it really is meant to be, and also for the fact that God's promise of Kingdom of priests was made specifically by God to those of Israel of which this character called Melchizedek was not. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 4:43pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Was Hebrews 7 v 3 referring to Melchizedek? Yes or No |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 4:45pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:Again, it was an analogy and not a direct reference since the details mentioned in the letter to the Hebrews are not corroborated by records in Genesis 14. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 4:49pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Is Hebrews 7 v 3 referring to Melchizedek? Yes or No |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 4:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:Nope |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 5:10pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Now everyone can see cognitive dissonance is the problem here. Who was the author referring to in Hebrews 7 v 1-3? If according to you it’s not Melchizedek. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 5:19pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:It seems you expect the answer that you want instead. I am afraid I am unable to give you that at all. Again... Kobojunkie: |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 5:49pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Who was Hebrews 7 v 1-3 referring to? If according to you it was not Melchizedek. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:Again, the writer of the Hebrew write instead an analogy - not based on facts - in attempt to explain Jesus Christ's place as high priest over he and his Hebrew brethren this since the promise was made not to Abraham nor those before, but to the descendants of Jacob. As I said before, this mention has nothing to do with the topic here at all in much the same way as a mention of the man Job would also not qualify in this here discussion regarding God's holy people mentioned in Revelations. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by sonmvayina(m): 6:57pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel: Jesus did not say so Thanoa did not say so Persus did not say so... What is the connection ?? |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by sonmvayina(m): 8:18pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 10:12pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Jesus did not say so, that’s all I wanted to confirm. Anything else is gibberish. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 10:14pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Family guy insults anything. Even Moses. So your point exactly is what? We should believe family guy’s position on Moses too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRumqk7Xw0 1 Like |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 10:14pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Who was Hebrews 7 v 1-3 referring to? If according to you it was not Melchizedek. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by Kobojunkie: 10:17pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
OkCornel:I already more than explained myself in this. I see you don't have anymore else to add to the original discussion then. |
Re: Will Jesus Come Back? The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ, And by OkCornel(m): 10:42pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: You know what comes next. That’s why you’re vehemently denying the obvious and concocting an analogy theory. Melchizedek is not an Israelite, but he is the priest of the most high God forever according to Hebrews 7 v 1-3. That already jeopardises your position that only Israelites can be priests in God’s kingdom. |
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